Olympic mountain man

its always been said "if you think your roughing it, your doing it wrong!"

You will note that when ever I write about this subject I always say "wilderness living/survival". Different people read things in different ways, but yes, I agree. We should be talking "living", not just surviving.
Keith.

couldn't agree more.

I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived.
Henry David Thoreau