Collapsing Of The United States

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  1. Old Geezer

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    Your post Pragmatist has enlightened me. How is it that this wonderful person's words have eluded me?! I have been found wanting. Thanx ever so much for bringing him to my attention. I've just been reading bio info on him. He was very brave. He'd not have his ideas buttonholed nor really commit to a political cause. His ideas sure did get him into trouble with Franco. He was liberal back when that term was synonymous with "a lover of Liberty", not vulgar communism.

    "[Franco's army] is waging a campaign against liberalism, not against Bolshevism [...] They will win, but they will not convince; they will conquer, but they will not convert."

    So next I set about finding his quotes. Beyond refreshing these! Seems I have some reading to do -- pleasurable reading. His clarity of thought is just downright rare. The words of the "great intellectuals" of this day are, upon true inspection, so much rot. People may know things, many things. How nice. They have the powers of memory; so do elephants, yet one is likely not to find a guru among the pachyderms. Memory aids and abets the mind's calculus of its universe. I will appreciate the wisdom possessed by a good soul even though the man may not remember yesterday.

    Pragmatist, thank you for the gift of this great man's name. It's been cloudy rainy outside today, but now sunshine seems to found its way into my office.

    "The skeptic does not mean him who doubts, but him who investigates or researches, as opposed to him who asserts and thinks that he has found."

    "A lot of good arguments are spoiled by some fool who knows what he is talking about."

    "Man dies of cold, not of darkness."

    "There is no true love save in suffering, and in this world we have to choose either love, which is suffering, or happiness. Man is the more man - that is, the more divine - the greater his capacity for suffering, or rather, for anguish"

    Miguel de Unamuno

    More and more brilliant quotes I'm finding from this noble soul! Can't list them all. I am overwhelmed in a most excellent sort of way.
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  2. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Old Geezer,

    No thanks required.

    Enjoy !
     
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    Socialism is anathema to prepping.

    https://off-guardian.org/2020/11/12/own-nothing-and-be-happy-the-great-resets-vision-of-the-future/

    “'Own Nothing and Be Happy': The Great Reset’s Vision of the Future"

    "Driven by the vision of its influential CEO Klaus Schwab, the WEF is the main driving force for the dystopian ‘great reset’, a tectonic shift that intends to change how we live, work and interact with each other.


    "The great reset entails a transformation of society resulting in permanent restrictions on fundamental liberties and mass surveillance as entire sectors are sacrificed to boost the monopoly and hegemony of pharmaceuticals corporations, high-tech/big data giants, Amazon, Google, major global chains, the digital payments sector, biotech concerns, etc.


    "Using COVID-19 lockdowns and restrictions to push through this transformation, the great reset is being rolled out under the guise of a ‘Fourth Industrial Revolution’ in which older enterprises are to be driven to bankruptcy or absorbed into monopolies, effectively shutting down huge sections of the pre-COVID economy. Economies are being ‘restructured’ and many jobs will be carried out by AI-driven machines.


    "In a short video showcased on social media, the WEF predicts that by 2030, 'You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy.'


    "A happy smiling face is depicted while a drone delivers a product to a household, no doubt ordered online and packaged by a robot in a giant Amazon warehouse: ‘no humans were involved in manufacturing, packaging or delivering this product’; rest assured, it is virus- and bacteria-free – because even in 2030, they will need to keep the fear narrative alive and well to maintain full-spectrum dominance over the population.


    "The jobless (and there will be many) could be placed on some kind of universal basic income and have their debts (indebtedness and bankruptcy on a massive scale is the deliberate result of lockdowns and restrictions) written off in return for handing their assets to the state or more precisely the financial institutions helping to drive this great reset.


    "The WEF says the public will ‘rent’ everything they require: stripping the right of ownership under the guise of ‘sustainable consumption’ and ‘saving the planet’. Of course, the tiny elite who rolled out this great reset will own everything."

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  5. lonewolf

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    sounds like communism to me.
     
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  6. Old Geezer

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    In my opinion, I believe that communism was quite a bit more lax. I mean shoot, the USSR was perfectly fine with the serfs being alcoholics. Same with the royalty of the Middle Ages, they let their serfs be drunks. When people are psychologically depressed, they self-medicate.

    Maybe a new-age collective will permit, even require, the smoking of high-grade marijuana. When you are just a cog in a machine, why the hell not just fade away, you've let Big Bro elites castrate you, nothing matters now.

    "Turn in your guns." "OK." "Turn in your 'nads." "OK."

    This won't happen in America for numerous reasons. Top of the list is that government is broke and will not have the oomph to reward their necessary corps of enforcers. If you pay your army with looted booty, that army WILL inevitably spin out of control. The Praetorian Guard nuked emperors they didn't like -- they were particularly gruesome when they did Caligula down.

    Whoever owns the best weapons and are good with the use of these weapons make the rules. There are tens of millions of Americans who own accurate center-fire rifles and who are proficient in their use. And they can grow their own food. And they can work on their own machines. And in their own self-sufficient communities there exists this thing called "unity". And their blood ancestors got along without electricity.
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  7. lonewolf

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    dont be so sure, you've had one bloody civil war, do you really want another?
    we can all get along without electricity, its just a matter of adapting but try telling the sheeple that.
     
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    Machiavelli:

    "If the conquered territory was formerly a republic, in which the citizens were used to living under their own laws, you must destroy it, go live in it, or let the citizens live under their own laws with a government that is friendly to you. If you do not destroy the city, it will destroy you, so fiercely will the citizens remember and long for their freedom."

    "Never attempt to win by force what can be won by deception."

    "But in maintaining armed men there in place of colonies one spends much more, having to consume on the garrison all the income from the state, so that the acquisition turns into a loss, and many more are exasperated, because the whole state is injured; through the shifting of the garrison up and down all become acquainted with hardship, and all become hostile, and they are enemies who, whilst beaten on their own ground, are yet able to do hurt. For every reason, therefore, such guards are as useless as a colony is useful."

    "Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred; because he can endure very well being feared whilst he is not hated, which will always be as long as he abstains from the property of his citizens and subjects and from their women. But when it is necessary for him to proceed against the life of someone, he must do it on proper justification and for manifest cause, but above all things he must keep his hands off the property of others, because men more quickly forget the death of their father than the loss of their patrimony. Besides, pretexts for taking away the property are never wanting; for he who has once begun to live by robbery will always find pretexts for seizing what belongs to others; but reasons for taking life, on the contrary, are more difficult to find and sooner lapse. But when a prince is with his army, and has under control a multitude of soldiers, then it is quite necessary for him to disregard the reputation of cruelty, for without it he would never hold his army united or disposed to its duties. "
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  9. Old Geezer

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    American or French revolution? Anyway, the peaceful protesters have called for conservatives be beheaded. Of course, in Europe, heads are being lopped off and throats being cut for the greater glory of Allah.

    https://thewashingtonsentinel.com/violent-rioters-storm-suburb-with-guillotine-burn-american-flags/

    "Violent rioters in Portland, Oregon, brought a guillotine to a demonstration overnight Saturday into Sunday, according to the Portland Police Bureau."

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    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/09/...dia-explains-that-alcohol-can-drive-you-crazy

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/09/...-hits-her-with-sledgehammer-claims-victimhood

     
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  10. Old Geezer

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    How to respond to the guillotine guard? Hey, they are the ones calling for "change". Here are some attitude changers being tested / put through the paces:



     
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    Black Biden supporter attacks white BLM activist at celebration of Trump defeat in Wisconsin



    Since the communist press will not cover such stories, people who have been punched/roughed-up by BLM and Anifa must be inverviewed after-the-fact.



    BLM and Antifa attack the white sychophants who support them.



    If in an urban area and you get robbed, get out of there quickly. Better yet, never go there. All business owners need to leave violent neighborhoods in all U.S. cities. If the coming USSA imposes population redistribution, then American Civil War II will begin (if not already in a full shooting war already).

     
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    Exceedingly foul language throughout the following videos, so don't open them if you are offended by such! Not kidding, this is over-the-top vulgar language.





     
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  14. Old Geezer

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    More assaults on human beings:



     
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    https://mises.org/wire/lockdowns-havent-brought-down-covid-mortality-they-have-killed-millions-jobs

    "During the early onset of covid-19 in the spring, government officials across the political spectrum widely agreed that government intervention and forced closure of many businesses was necessary to protect public health. This approach has clearly failed in the United States as it led to widespread economic devastation, including millions of jobs lost, bankruptcies, and extremely severe losses in profitability. Nor have states with strict lockdowns succeeded in bringing about fewer covid deaths per million than states that were less strict.

    "Consequently, a few months into the pandemic, some governors weighed the competing economic costs with covid-19 containment and slowly reopened their economies. Of course, these governors did not mandate businesses reopen; however, they provided businesses the option to reopen.

    "Hysteria ensued as many viewed easing restrictions as akin to mass murder. The Atlantic famously dubbed Georgia governor Brian Kemp’s easing of restrictions as “human sacrifice” and referred to Georgians as being in a “case study in pandemic exceptionalism.” Instead, we should view the lockdowns as a case study in the failure of heavy-handed approaches in containing a highly infectious virus.

    "Not Everyone Can #StayHome

    "Even so, many proponents of lockdowns still contend that every covid infection is a failure of public policy. But this position is largely a luxury of white-collar workers who can afford to work from home. Lockdowns have been described as 'the worst assault on the working class in half a century.' Martin Kulldorff, a biostatistician, says, “the blue-collar class is ‘out there working, including high-risk people in their 60s.” Kulldorff’s colleague Jay Bhattacharya notes that one reason “minority populations have had higher mortality in the U.S. from the epidemic is because they don’t often have the option…to stay at home.” In effect, top-down lockdown policies are “regressive” and reflect a “monomania,” says Dr. Bhattacharya. With this in mind, it is easy to see why more affluent Americans tend to view restrictive measures as the appropriate response.

    "For many Americans, prolonged periods of time without gainful employment, income, or social interaction are not only impossible but potentially deadly. Martin Kulldorff notes that covid-19 restrictions do not consider broader public health issues and create collateral damage; among the collateral damage is a 'worsening incidence of cardiovascular disease and cancer and an alarming decline in immunization.' Dr. Bhattacharya correctly notes that society will be 'counting the health harms from these lockdowns for a very long time.'”
     
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  16. lonewolf

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    I dont think its the collapse of the US thats a problem, what we should be worried about the collapse of human civilisation, this planet cannot continue to support 7 billion + with all the habitat destruction and chemical pollution that goes on.
     
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    Speaking of chemical pollution;

    President Trump sought to reform the funeral industry.

    I heard various numbers but something like a couple of tons of embalming fluid is placed into the earth every day in the US.
     
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    New Mexico's Governor declared a shut down using the covid as the excuse . As of yesterday the shelves have been wiped clean as sheeple swarmed into stores gathering food . Jobs lost . I am not sure whether this catastrophe and panic is contained in a portion of the state or the entire state . --- update Oregon's Governor followed New Mexico's example and just shut down . Again as of now I don't know if this is localized or state wide . --- Truckers planning a 4 day shut down somewhere toward the end of this month . Again my information is sketchy .
     
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    https://in.finance.yahoo.com/video/protesters-launch-fireworks-near-diners-043637162.html

    Communist, anti-American MSM lies about attack on conservatives having outside meal at restaurant. The peaceful protesters launched fireworks directly towards these patrons knowing full and well that they could cause concussive and burn injuries to the people they were attacking. The pro-Antifa media intentionally misreported this as "launch fireworks near diners". The Big Lie is still alive and well.

    In this stage of America's Civil War II, the intentional injuries / shootings have begun. Expect this to escalate.

    One day soon, Antifa forces will do this and armed citizens will return fire with their handguns. A real man witnessing his wife being injured/burned will stand up and shoot into the persons initiating the attack to shut down further aggression. Gonna happen, 100%.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...-restaurant-after-maga-march-suspect-arrested

    There was a video online showing BLM members attacking conservatives, however YouTube's socialist censors have removed it for "content violating ...", i.e. the video did not support the cause of international collectivism.
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    Through a contact - the situation in Oregon is state wide . Not sure if it is in both states or one of the states but report coming in that lines of sheeples are trying to get into the stores to grab whatever they can find runs outside some of the stores and down the sidewalks .
     
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/political...ia-have-requested-mail-ballots-january-runoff

    "On January 5, two runoff races in Georgia could decide whether Republicans maintain control of the Senate, the loss of which would have serious implications for Americans - from higher taxes, to healthcare, to other Democratic agenda items which a GOP-controlled Senate would otherwise block for at least the next two years.

    "'More than 600,000 Georgians have requested their mail ballots for the January 5 runoff elections,' wrote failed Georgia gubernatorial candidate (who still hasn't conceded), Stacey Abrams."

    Seems Georgia is going to double-fix the election.
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  23. Max rigger

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    Old Man, in your heart of hearts do you really believe the election was rigged? You do know Trump has claimed 'rigged' all his life even when a school friend scored high in an exam he said the test was rigged.

    Have you read 'Too Much and Never Enough'? or John Bolton's book? I'll email you Kindle copies if you like.

    Trump's mental health is open to scrutiny, the guy has some serious issues. Its too late to help him but not too late to help heal the damage he's done to the USA, healing can happen if you pull together as a nation...good luck with that.
     
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    I dont know if the US election was rigged or not, but I think postal voting is a problem and can be abused, whether there are enough false votes to swing an election is debateable.
     
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    This is how a transition should be

     
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    you are quoting BILL CLINTON as some sort of role model? really?? Hilarious.
     
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    No, he was reading a letter from President Bush showing how a smooth transition occurs if you can bother watching the video.

    If you can be bothered to read this it shows Clinton was pretty good at his job
    https://clinton.procon.org/
     
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    the only think Clinton was good at was not keeping it in his trousers.
     
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    Good morning Max,

    Re: "Clinton was pretty good at his job";

    Near here is where Ed Wiley committed suicide in a state forest. Ed was the dearly betrothed husband of former White House intern Kathleen Wiley. These people are obscure footnotes, especially out of this region.

    I always carry a picture of me next to the main sign at Fort Marcy Park, Northern Virginia Autonomous Oblast. This is where Vince Foster passed away. Foster was personal attorney to the Clinton's in re White Water housing financing and Castle Grande housing financing. Some irregularities had been reported.

    "Clinton was pretty good at his job".

    I know it wasn't addressed to me but must mention Team Trump is filing legal action concerning a rigged national election. The results are sometime away. Who knows the results ? I surely don't but do know the Dominion vote tabulating machines were rigged. Virginia's Congressional voting districts were already rigged.
     
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  30. Max rigger

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    You need to look more at what was achieved in a presidency more the the president, what state did they leave their country in etc. Overall Clinton left the country in a stronger state than when he came to office. Obama had kick started the economy which in no small measure provided the growth that Trump claims was all down to him, this is not the case.

    There is more to a nation than its economy, the 'health' of the nation is what carries it in hard times and without a shadow of a doubt Trump has hurt the nations health more than any president before him; he has divided the nation, emboldened people to show their true racist colours, to show hate to their fellow man and empowered them to voice all this. You can see this here on this very small forum, its 90% or more pro Trump and won't have a word said about him and have bought into the lies, disinformation and conspiracy stupidity the man eschewed.

    The election was not rigged, Biden won by a small margin but he won legally. You may choose (I know you will) to think me and the rest of the planet are wrong buy hopefully in the years to come and if you can be honest with yourself you will realise that the ship of 2016-2020 steered by Captain Trump was among the stormiest days in the history of the United States of America...they are currently not united.

    His constant lies, his consistent failure at cohesive leadership during a global pandemic has taken the lives of tens of thousands of your fellow Americans, he let them die and thousands more will die because of his failure to accept he lost and is now actively blocking Biden's attempt to get teams and plans into place to see the end of this virus outbreak.
     
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    Oh...yes Max....I think the internationalists had no choice but to rig the election. They absolutely could not stand another four years of Donald Trump. Donald Trump was cutting deeply into their rigged internationalist system.....and stranglehold of both political parties in America. Donald Trump was giving them no choice in the matter.

    Donald Trump invoked the ire of the Internationalists world wide as well as entrenched in our government when he stated early on after his election that he was the President of the United States...not of the world.

    Donald Trump has invoked the ire of internationalists in the Republican and Democrat party both. People who take a public oath to protect the Constitution of the United States but secretly/privily are loyal to an internationalist agenda if in fact under oath secretly and privily to internationalism.

    Trump is from New York...he certainly should know something about a rigged system...What are you thinking here??

    Donald Trump has been cutting into rigged policies which make power and profit for the Internationalists...not for Americans.

    From giving people back more of their monies by lowering taxes...to removing our Troops from foreign entanglements..




    I never liked John Bolton from the first time I heard him speak. I rated John Bolton as a war hawk for the Occult Internationalists..who have privily/secretly attached themselves to our government for private interests...private kingdoms....



    Max...People who have been around and observed Occult Politics/Internationalists/Rigged Politics...know that attacking ones mental health...suitability is standard format for these groups...
    It is predictable...

    I have seen this format of attacking ones mental health ...over and over and over in politics....particularly when one is speaking the Truth about what is happening.

    Once again...what are you thinking..,.???


    There are things about the true nature of politics which are clearly Occult...concealed/hidden from the average Americans..never to be known...understood..or even taught in public schools...
    This way people seldom think for themselves or outside the box if you prefer...
    And that is a huge danger to Internationalist/Globalists...that Trump and Company are awakening more and more people away from the Kardashians and or ESPN....Engineered Manufactured Distractions. This too is in the nature of Occult politics...Distractions to prevent thinking...only Emoting allowed..


    They had to rig the election...they had no choice...Trump and Company were putting the Internationalists/Globalists up against the ropes....

    Be Warned the Ishmaelites trying to make come back.


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    Max rigger.


    There is indeed more to a nation than it's economy..

    However..if one does not have a good economy the rest is a moot point....

    I disagree with you in that racism is the policy of the internationalists ....globalists...leftists....

    This is clearly seen in observing BLM and Antifa.....the best they have is racism....and or fascism....to divide a nation and people. And the Democrats/leftist tried to jump into bed with them until it became obvious that it would hurt them among thinking Americans.

    And it is getting very very wolfie...Max...
    Thinking people can see it coming...smell it coming ....to get leverage over unthinking overly emotional people.

    Not just racism Max..but also sexism , homophobia and other guilt manufacturing techniques designed to properly and shamefully herd people and nations into silence...designed specifically for this very effect...social herding.

    In short...politics.


    If one reads history ...you can see this kind of rioting going on in Europe in the 1800s.....for political change ....

    And then the left tries to put the onus off on the President for this kind of division.....this kind of rioting.....this kind of planned, engineered, designed chaos.

    Ordo Ob Chao is their motto....order from chaos...

    This kind of chaos manufacturing is not a new thing and I recognized it quickly from my reading of history.....in Europe from the French Revolution on....manufactured and creaated.

    Most Americans are oblivious of this history ...never heard of it by design.

    This Max rigger is not an American principle of operation..but it is an internationalist/Globalist method of operation...and a very subversive one at that....

    Particularly once one sees the history behind it...from the French Revolution on into the 1800s and finally one of these people shooting the Archduke Ferdinand and his Wife Sophie in 1914...leading to WW1.


    One of the clear indexes of leftist Marxist Ideology is labeling others to the very things they are doing themselves...

    You should know this Max....

    I have no objection to you posting your views and understandings...

    But be prepared to be rebutted.....

    It is the left Max...the internationalists/Globalists who have been rigging one system after another system for years and years and years....since the French Revolution......and continuing up to this very day.

    What do they say about the French Revolution in certain history books ...Max???

    The French Revolution is the first scientifically created revolution.


    Most people have never heard this ...or read it in most history books...you have to dig deep to find it.

    But this is continuing right now..up to this very moment...scientifically created revolutions..


    And I believe Trump got in the way of this Scientifically Created Revolution which continues up to this very day.

    Be Warned the Ishmaelites.


    There is clearly a fight going on complete with propaganda ...between internationalist/Globalists and the American way of life...

    And this fight is being hidden and concealed...by design from the Average American out here..

    This is the true struggle of what is happening ...now ..today and continuing...

    America and Americans must be brought to heel to this system.....of internationalism/globalism....

    And Biden is the poster boy for this system......he belongs to them.




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  33. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Max,

    You have little knowledge as to what's going on here. I can see you've never participated in politics, less voting.

    The US economy determines the social aspects and generates the political aspects.

    The US has always been divided since our founding.

    Trump has done some things no other President cauld do. You probably never heard of the "First Step Act". He authorized the release of Federal prisoners who could reenter society. Blacks were the main beneficies. He opened the Federal civil service to blacks without the "tickets" - the college degrees, etc. At my vet meetings the black vets support Trump and hate the opposition. Do you know the political views of the Supremes' one black Justice ? He is the one who officiated at Rush Limbough's wedding. Charance Thomas hates the white liberals.

    If a major national event - the legal challenge to the national election - is pending a review, how do you know what was or was not rigged ? The Virginia aspect is rigged and has been for the last few administrations. This is bipartisan - both parties - so a minority can hold a Congressional seat (Va 3rd Congressional District). You have never seen material on the Dominion vote tabulation machines nor the contracts this company had with about half the states. The 5 major cities that voted anti-Trump ... Max, you don't know what's going on here.

    We have 40 million new arrivals here in the US and Trump still arranged for interstate health care practice. My Governor has fought this and continues to do so. Try to figure out what's going on.

    Trump is hated by the establishment.

    Trump is attempting to disestablish the welfare state and the deep state.

    Again, I know you do not have a political background.

    Whoever is President in February, 2021 will have to work the budget. A business expansion means increased interest rates. This can close down the US Government most especially when foreigners call their loans.

    You are safe living in Spain as long as the USN is present at Naval Station Rota. Otherwise, anticipate problems like old people do involving end of times.
     
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      "You are safe living in Spain as long as the USN is present at Naval Station Rota. Otherwise, anticipate problems like old people do involving end of times." :D:D:D:D:D
      Thanks, Pragmatist. So long as the kids have Mommy and Daddy to protect them, it is possible for them to act with the most grand arrogance.
       
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  34. Old Geezer

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    Some truth has even made its way to the nation of Nigeria.

    https://www.herald.ng/brittany-s-mc...-seen-assaulting-trump-supporters-identified/

    "A female Black Lives Matter (BLM) protester seen in viral videos assaulting some supporters of President Donald Trump has been identified as Brittany S. McAlister.

    "Post Millennial identified the suspect as a 29-year-old third-year journalism student of Howard University, Washington DC, who also works as a freelance journalist.

    "Brittany S. McAlister was seen on video assaulting at least two individuals after Saturday’s pro-Trump 'Million MAGA March' in Washington DC."

    Brittany is yet another success story for Leftist University Professors in their quest to supply enough Marxist revolutionaries to overthrow capitalist oppression across the globe.

    Brittany kicks an unconscious man in the head -- the fellow on the ground had already been rendered unconscious by another BLM peaceful protester who punched him from behind. Later, Brittany runs up behind conservative marcher and sucker-punches the lady in the back of her head. The bravery of these young revolutionaries is staggering (do forgive the bad pun).

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  35. Max rigger

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    There was no rigged election. The problem for conspiracies on this scale is the amount of people you would need to employ to pull it off and do you really think that a whistle blower with hard evidence would not say 'thank you very much' to the million he or she would be paid.

    Trump lost, end of story lads now its up to you to suck it up, man up and work to help your country and stop driving Trump's wedge deeper into American society.

    I don't live in Spain, not bought a property yet, Spain is for my mid to late fifties when I'll be able to more or less comfortably retire. Even then I'll never burn my bridges, this house I could rent for best part of a grand a month so thats one source of additional retirement income for me.

    Take your heads out of the dark place they're stuck in, Trump is gone, voted out in a rig free election so time for you to move on.

    Enough said from me on this now rather dull subject.
     
  36. poltiregist

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    Reportedly the anti Trump Propaganda outlet pretending to report news " CNN " is collapsing . They are trying to find someone to buy them out . They haven't been able to find enough gullible idiots to watch their propaganda . So now they have put their communist enterprise up for sale .
     
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  37. Old Geezer

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    "There was no rigged election." Mini-god hath spoken!

    We must now all bow down before our child-king.

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    LOL LOL LOL.....CNN......Chicken Noodle News....

    Couldn't happen to a better bunch...of Ishmaelites.

    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite
     
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  40. Old Geezer

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...arnock-nobody-can-serve-god-and-the-military/

    "Georgia Senate Democrat candidate Raphael Warnock said during a 2011 sermon that Americans could not serve God and the military at the same time.

    "Warnock currently hopes to unseat Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-GA) during the January Senate runoff. Georgia hosts the fifth-largest active duty military population in the United States. The Peach State also has Fort Benning, one of the largest military installations in the country.

    "One military veteran found Warnock’s 2011 remarks very offensive to Christians who serve in the military.

    "Kenneth E. Brandt, a former U.S. Army National Guard chief chaplain, said, 'If he’s saying you cannot be in the military and be a Christian, I will take issue with that.'"

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...sistent-with-my-view-as-a-christian-minister/

    "In an interview with WGAU’s Tim Bryant in August, Georgia Senate candidate Raphael Warnock said abortion is “consistent with” his philosophy as a Christian minister.

    "The Democrat megachurch pastor, who is attempting to unseat Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-GA) in the Georgia Senate runoff election in January, takes his talking points from abortion giant Planned Parenthood, which endorsed him in May.

    "Warnock does not support any restrictions on abortion, and said such a position fits in with his Christian world view because he has adopted the abortion industry narrative that abortion is health care."

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...he-entire-black-population-of-the-u-s-in-1960

    "The tragic reality is that 79% of Planned Parenthood abortion facilities are located within walking distance of neighborhoods that have proportionately higher populations of black or Latina women. An analysis of census tract data clearly documents that this kingpin of the abortion industry targets women of color, selling them the illusion that they must choose between career advancement and the lives of their babies. Any doubt about this skewed impact on women of color would be dispelled if Planned Parenthood were to publish data on the proportion of its abortion clients who are minorities. Planned Parenthood pointedly declines to release this data.

    "Abortion in America has contributed to the greatest decline in black population since the first black slaves arrived in the Americas in the 1600s. According to U.S. census data, there were 18,871,831 black American citizens in 1960. Since Roe v. Wade legalized abortion in 1973, abortion has killed an estimated 20 million black babies — more than the entire black population of 1960."
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  41. Max rigger

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    They are selling the old CNN building, remaining in Atlanta and relocating to new premises, don't be a gullible idiot and repeat half a story.

    So Trump has fired another key member of his staff who did not agree with him a senior member of staff who stated the election was the most secure in history, there was no rigging. Trump has not being able to provide ONE piece of evidence to support his conspiracy theory, or 'ramblings of an angry and confused old man' as they are seen in the rest of the world.

    I'd guess he'll claim dementia rather than face his time in court/prison for tax evasion and sexual misconduct including a rape allegation, what a lovely person he is.
     
  42. Old Geezer

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    "Paddle faster ... I hear banjo music."

    A city wimp should avoid places where the locals are tough enough to live off the land. How could hardy people ever respect a limp-wristed smart-aleck?!

    In the movie Deliverance, Ed only having a bow and arrow, would have been shot dead early on.

    Reminds me of a bunch of city boys who ventured into the wrong county in my region. The regional hillbillies referred to many of the people occupying that particular county as "rednecks". So, these city boys show up with their bows and arrows to go deer-hunting. The rednecks robbed them. There was no homosexual raping that happened -- the Hollywood types think about matters such as that. Nope. It is, however, a truth that when weak people wander too far astray, even the genetic inferiors of the region are able to do to them as they please.

    I myself did and do refer to such inbreds as "rednecks". People who have red necks due to hard work are not inferior; indeed, they are the life-blood of any nation. The ignorant who pride themselves in their ignorance usually are genetically inferior. Certainly, those who wish to get a government check simply because they draw oxygen are inferiors. These folk, even when provided the means of obtaining an education, can't be educated -- they genetically do not possess the ability to do so. This is true to this day. Those in that county (and there's another county that leaps to mind) who were/are of better genetics make something of themselves. Usually they join the military as a means to obtain an education. Many return from their travels and start businesses, become educators, become those who enable others like themselves to rise above the poverty.

    "The proof is in the pudding."
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  43. lonewolf

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    any city people who wander into the English Shires post SHTF thinking they are going to live off the land will be dead long before Spring arrives.
     
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      Yours is an excellent point for a prepper site. Holding that one could, all of a sudden, betake themselves to "the country" and live there -- this based on notions born of fevers of the mind -- comes across as some mental syndrome. Real preppers and those who have always had to get by in rural/wilderness areas are all-too-aware of the syndrome. They view these mental cripples as burdens. During an actual SHTF event, what to do with such useless interlopers? I'm not going to bury their bodies. Even when dead, they haven't brought with them anything of sufficient value to scavenge. Their campers will be suffused with the horrid stench of death. Not going near that. It is disgusting to even think of them.
       
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  44. Old Geezer

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    Gullible

    Those who lap-up the vomit of the MSM are the truly gullible. Actually the word "gullible" is insufficient. Other words and phrases must needs apply to those who want to shine the shoes of the abusive elite:
    > tendencies towards subservience
    > sycophantic
    > childish personality type with needs of approval
    > herd member
    > masochistic
    > "feed-me" syndrome

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  45. poltiregist

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    Rural folks can usually spot the city folks at a glance , via the way they dress , walk , and talk . The residence of my area were amused but also alarmed last summer when hoards of city folks rushed into our area panicked over the Chinese Virus . They thought they could get their campers , tents or grab their bug out bags and have a better chance of surviving in our rural region . The governor stepped in and run the sheeple off before their idiotic behavior caused further problems . The governor doesn't live in the rural area but he knew something bad was fixing to happen . As one store keeper explained to me , when they came it was " like a swarm of locust " . No they indeed could not survive as they had imagined in their fantasy of survival .
     
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  46. Old Geezer

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    We -- especially my mate -- want to move back to my home state. My home county and even counties that are by-god rural are now being infested with "escapers". I've a son there. Between looking at real estate sites and news from the son, houses hitting the market are sold instantly and for too high of prices. I can't live near that crap. For starters, these folk are pricing me out of the market. Next up is that these people are NOT of us. They will always be outsiders. They open their mouths, say three sentences and you know that they actually are part of the Borg.

    That they have actually built houses is a good thing. When the SHTF, they can be driven off and the house structures be put to some use by the local blood. Their neighborhoods screw the earth -- now there's an unbearable sadness. Well, such is another reason to hate them, to use them, to lose them when times go hard. They are weak and will not be a problem when the time comes.
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  47. lonewolf

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    there was a guy on another site who reckoned he was going to live in the woods in a tent post SHTF, the laugh was this guy was only alive because he was on oxygen cylinders delivered to his door.
     
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      Maybe the man would be better prepared for the future were he prepared to meet his Lord. Besides, we will all one day be called to Judgement.
       
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  48. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Max,

    Beware the trap on the path.

    The staffer who was fired by Trump was NOT a key member.

    He's Christopher Krebs, the former DHS Director of Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. As vast a program this is, it is only a segment of the US national voting programs.

    It is a common technique for biased media to present the views of someone who is laity outside their specialty. This is commone with the professors discussing warfare and the public health medical doctors discussing new programs without a source of funding.

    Again, beware the trap.

    It is a big trap because it represents a change in operation to the US Government. Illustrative: A couple of years ago, we had a state judge in Alabama - also served on their state Supremes - who ran for the US Senate. He was alledged to having commiting illegal something to do with sex with women from 39 (thirty nine) years prior.

    Although I am in a completely different political camp than this judge (He got in trouble for displaying the 10 Commandments or something related to allowing the display in a governmental building), I know of no one who could defend against a 3-4 decade old events presuming they even occurred.

    ......

    If you have information, however nominal, involving Trump and a rape, it's best to report it to the authorities. There are well-established liaison offices in the UK to do this. The converse is that someone could charge you with violating the Official Secrets Act of 1911, as amended, even if you weren't born yet. Just the cost of defending oneself devastates the middle class here in the US. It can't be much different in the UK.
     
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  49. Max rigger

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    Very true LW, lets be honest, there is no wilderness in the UK where you could easily live off the land and not just the UK, massive parts of the USA won't support you either with even first nation tribes going through periods of starvation in the past. I suspect coastal living/fishing would be a better option. I must learn to fish.
     
  50. Old Geezer

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    Could have been that Jimmy Hoffa "learned to fish".

    Pretend preppers are not going to go on living during SHTF events.
     
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