Zippo Lighters, Extending Fuel Life

Discussion in 'All Resources About Fire' started by Old Geezer, Sep 17, 2020.

0/5, 0 votes

  1. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
    Reducing lighter fluid evaporation in your Zippo









    This one, I myself have done. It does lengthen the storage life of the fluid, but makes the lighter less immediately accessable.


    Butane conversion
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z47G1H4me4

    I just bought another Zippo. Why? It was pretty. OK, so it had a beautiful woman's image on the case, Art Nouveau. I began smoking in Jr. High, smokin to get high in high school, but I began always carrying a cigarette lighter & pocket-knife in grammar school. Cave man say, "Must make fire! Must cut meat! Og happy. Time man give Og Zippo, big can fire magic water. Zippo God!"

    Everybody, please add your ideas in the realm of making fuel last longer in a Zippo. I know that we all have several containers of hurricane matches, but hey, Zippos are handy.
    .
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  2. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
  3. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
    Yes, I do buy naphtha at the hardware store. So you have your handy small can that has the tiny fuel spout, but you fill the little handy can using a quantity can of naphtha you bought in the paint thinner section of your hardware store.

    26a8494fc137954ddd9967a7614bcb8a.jpeg
    26a8494fc137954ddd9967a7614bcb8a.jpeg
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  4. TexDanm

    TexDanm Shadow Dancer
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    2
    I make what some call ranger bands by cutting bicycle innertubes into bands that are from 1/4" to 1/2" wide. If you will put one of the 1/2" bands around the zippo covering the hinges and seam it will make it waterproof and eliminate a lot of the evaporation without making it a problem to use and will also keep a recently filled lighter from leaking in your pocket.
     
    Old Geezer and TMT Tactical like this.
    1. Old Geezer
      One of these videos has a guy using a section of bike inner-tube. Now this has been confirmed by a trustworthy person. Thanx Tex!
      Stopping leaking flammable liquid and its vapors is good all-round. Sure can't get the cheap little plastic butane lighters near any open flame situations -- "most don't leak" = not comforting. I often work near K-sized oxygen tanks, several tanks stacked side by side, plus working near oxygen delivery systems. O2 levels above 21% ambient.
       
      Old Geezer, Sep 18, 2020
  5. F22 Simpilot

    F22 Simpilot Master Survivalist
      407/460

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Are there any dangers in using another gas? Be it kerosene, diesel, gasoline, etc. Obliviously, you wouldn't want to light a smoke with that.
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  6. Pragmatist

    Pragmatist Master Survivalist
      485/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Good morning F22,

    An indirect response to above;

    During the Vietnam War, some of the local ladies would sell glass vials of lighter fluid to the soldiers at a very low cost compared to buying a can of American stuff when/if returning from the thorns to a base camp.

    The vials contained naphalm.
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  7. randyt

    randyt Master Survivalist
      415/460

    Blog Posts:
    0
    I went with a kaschie bullet lighter. It's a big peanut lighter with a screw on top.
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  8. TexDanm

    TexDanm Shadow Dancer
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    2
    Over the many years I carried a Zippo and finally started making leather belt sheaths to carry them. It always sucked if I put a little to much fuel in one and then had it leak in my pocket. That stuff causes a chemical burn that takes a couple or three days to stop burning. In a pinch I have put kerosine in them a few times. It worked but stinks and doesn't burn as clean. I think that the regular lighter fluid might be some form of massive high octane gasoline without all the additives in it.

    Contrary to what most people think, higher octane means a higher spontaneous flash point temperature. I used to mix 135 octane avegas (Aviation fuel for the old radial airplane engines. I worked for a crop dusting service and did the refueling every morning.) with shell premium when I went to the drag strip. My heavily modified engine had at least a 13 to 1 compression ratio and low octane gas would ignite just from the compression and cause preignition problems. The higher octane gas allows for more complete compression and burns giving you more power from the firing. The only problem with that Avegas mix was that it was hell on valves and I usually had to replace the valves pretty often. I ran a 235 bored to 250 inline 6 cylinders in the V8 unlimited class. there wasn't a 6 cylinder unlimited class. The inline engines generally have a stronger low end and a hell of a first 1/8 of the mile but then can't match the V8 in rpm and longer legs at the end. I was a TERROR at street light drag racing and embarrassed a lot of Corvettes. 3 aces set up progressive made it run like a sh1+ eating ape but was mean to idle. Ah yes, the good old days when I had nothing better to do than spend my spare time with my head under the hood of my car.
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2020
  9. F22 Simpilot

    F22 Simpilot Master Survivalist
      407/460

    Blog Posts:
    0
  10. F22 Simpilot

    F22 Simpilot Master Survivalist
      407/460

    Blog Posts:
    0

    Lighter fluid may be liquid butane.

    Found this on naphtha octane. Very interesting.

    https://www.greencarcongress.com/2013/10/20131008-naphtha.html

    So I take it a low compression engine could burn it?

    Another fuel source for Zippos could be liquid paraffin wax I suppose. You can buy it by the gallon at Walmart or other places. Also, Coleman campfire can be had by the tin jug. Though, unlike paraffin oil, not sure how long campfire fuel lasts. I know gasoline for example can age over time and losses its power.

    Edit-

    Looks like butane is a 90. http://www.chemgapedia.de/vsengine/...enwasserstoffe/octanzahl/octanzahl.vscml.html
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  11. TexDanm

    TexDanm Shadow Dancer
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    2
    Even before I smoked I carried a lighter and a pocket knife too. Back then that lighter was a multipurpose tool. A Zippo allowed you to do more than just light a fire. It let you light a lady's cigarette with style! I could whip mine out and pop it open like a switchblade with one hand and then with a snap of my fingers had a fire and my hand wrapped around it to offer to a lady. Women back then would just pull out a cigarette and wait and see who got to her first. I was fast and on my toes and offered a bit of performance art along with a light.

    the same was for a knife. It was a multiuse tool and even the lady teachers would just wait and see which boy was fastest to pop out a blade if she needed something opened. I carried a Buck knife in my hip pocket and could snap it open lightning fast onehanded.

    The good old days on the hunt and on point for the ladies.
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  12. Max rigger

    Max rigger Master Survivalist
      415/460

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Fuel leakage is the number one weak spot for zippo's, I have one in a drawer but I've not taken it out on a camp for maybe ten years now. Bic style lighters just work better, simple as that.
     
  13. lonewolf

    lonewolf Societal Collapse Survivalist. Staff Member
      510/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Zippo's can explode if they are overfilled, I know cos it happened to me, I gave up smoking in 1995 I just have disposable lighters for prepping purposes now.
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  14. poltiregist

    poltiregist Legendary Survivalist
      515/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    I can recommend a liquid fueled lighter now available for $ 17.00 on Amazon . Listed as " bronzy carved Constantine antique style lift arm oil petrol lighter ". It is made of solid copper and is heavy for a lighter and can withstand a lot of wind with its powerful flame . Mine was filled over two weeks ago and is still functioning great with its original fill up . Actually My son wanted one also , after seeing mine , so I bought a second one for him . I may buy several more for the stash and the rest of our survival clan . It has a seal over the wick and refill hole conserving the fuel . --- I had some years ago bought a bunch of cheap liquid filled lighters and decided to try one out before s.h.t.f. . I am certainly glad I did because those cheap lighters would allow the fuel to evaporate out even with no use in about two days .
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2021
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  15. poltiregist

    poltiregist Legendary Survivalist
      515/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Another thought on this matter . In my stash is a hoard of disposable lighters . Going through them a while back I did find one that had evaporated out , without it ever once being used . I suspect others in my stash may have succumbed to the same end , but I didn't go through all my stash checking disposable lighters . Just thought our members should be aware of this possibility . My focus now is the refillable liquid lighters and flint and steel .
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2021
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  16. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
    I'm now in an experiment that has been going on since mid-summer. I am trying to discover the best method of keeping the lighter fluid in a Zippo from evaporating-away. A Zippo unprotected will lose its fuel to evaporation in a week or less. This phenomenon means nothing to a smoker because they are lighting the little beast perpetually and thus use up the fuel in the form of the lighter's purpose.

    All of my efforts to seal the reserve before re-inserting the mechanism back into its case have failed or have been so troublesome as to make them undesirable. I tried plastic seals. I tried wax -- that was messy and rather stupid. There is an online rubber seal that goes into the bottom of the lighter -- I did NOT buy this due to its getting negative reviews online.

    Dropping the Zippo into a sealable plastic bag, rolling it up in that plastic mashing out the air in the process, making sure the bag's seal is zipped shut, then wrapping this small package with a rubber band results in an extreme reduction in evaporation. I just reached over and tested my lighter that had been sealed and it readily lit and produced a full, robust flame. I know for a fact that I haven't filled that puppy in over three weeks. During this three weeks, I have lit it four times or less. It was convenient, so I used it.

    Eventually, plastic-sealed lighters WILL run out of fuel. I would put the time at around one month of storage. Stored in plastic and given that some evaporation is definitely occurring, I store my Zippo atop a metal file cabinet. I believe that it would be profoundly unsafe to put this storage package in with flammables such as any container/desk-drawer full of papers. More unsafe yet would be to put this storage package in with fabrics. As everybody knows, if a gas-station crew throws all their oily cotton clean-up rags in a big 55-gallon barrel, that barrel can spontaneously combust. When storing a lighter, the fuel must not evaporate into combustible materials -- that's an inferno waiting to happen. That's NOT going to be any experiment I'll be conducting.
    .
     
    poltiregist and TMT Tactical like this.
  17. poltiregist

    poltiregist Legendary Survivalist
      515/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Update - I went back to buy some more of the lighters I recommended on one of my above posts . They were sold out and stated they may never get any more . Perhaps folks took my advise and bought them out . I can say this , they bought a good lighter , especially from a preppers stand point .
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  18. poltiregist

    poltiregist Legendary Survivalist
      515/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Well I found more of my coveted lighters but without the fancy designs on the case . So I just ordered 8 more so as to cover each household " some futuristic " for all my kids and grandkids . I will put the lighters in the stash so I know they will not be lost before the collapse gets that dire and then distribute them . The collapse has picked up dramatic speed in the United States in just hours so the day of distribution may not be that far off . At least with the un-designed cases on the lighters , I can engrave the owners name on them in order to prevent future confusion over ownership .
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  19. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
    Amazon sez that they have the following lighter in stock:

    https://www.amazon.com/Kerosene-Cig...V8NB1MFTFSH&psc=1&refRID=1J1TC3Z94V8NB1MFTFSH


    upload_2021-1-9_14-29-56.png
    upload_2021-1-9_14-46-36.png

    There is a video on Amazon showing how to disassemble and maintain this lighter. The screw that opens the filling chamber (located on lighter bottom) has an "O"-ring seal. The cap that goes over the lighter wick area may just prevent some evaporation also.

    "【Refillable Design】 Simply rotate the tank cover on the bottom and refill with lighter fluid/fuel or replace flint stone. With the bottom anti-leakage ring, effectively inhibits leak and evaporation. "


    These are made in Hong Kong. Now that China is doing its best to rape Hong Kong, maybe they could use some money to escape the place. I'd welcome intelligent freedom-loving capitalists who had to escape the collectivist cancer.

    About suppliers:
    https://www.amazon.com/s?me=A7EPYQ6VRMANA&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    https://www.amazon.com/stores/node/...browse-bin=yusud&ref_=bl_dp_s_web_20946097011

    upload_2021-1-9_14-54-3.png
     
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2021
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  20. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
  21. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
    Reading reviews on above lighter, Vintage Trench Lighter:

    Most reviews positive.

    One person got a defective lighter; cover for wick was bent.

    One person said that he'd like a larger flame.

    One person said that they wished the little lighter would hold more fuel.

    Me, O.Gzr, might buy one just because it is cute. I could rationalize this by saying that I was buying it to test its fluid evaporation rate. I routinely lie to myself. Too much self-observation leads to spoiling the big lie that life is worth living.

    When a boy in grammar school, I always carried a cigarette lighter and a pocket knife. I still have a couple or three pocket knives I carried those many centuries ago (I'm now looking at a couple of them in one of my top desk drawers, another I keep in one of my house tool boxes -- they still work, I still use them). I had a small collection of cigarette lighters back then. The nostalgia-factor on this lighter invokes a lot of bias in me. I'm OCD through and through.

    Steam punk partyers would like the "trench lighter".
    .
     
    poltiregist and TMT Tactical like this.
  22. poltiregist

    poltiregist Legendary Survivalist
      515/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    The lighter I now possess is made with rubber seals to prevent fuel loss . Mine is not the same as the one above but the theory is the same . I can testify the sealed fuel intake and sealed wick cover when not in use works . The fuel will eventually evaporate out , but at a much slower rate . For a prepper looking at just starting one or two fires a day for warmth or cooking , it will be a priceless item to have in ones pocket when things finish collapsing . --- After having done a lot of practice I can usually get a live ember burning in under 30 seconds and a burning flame under three minutes with my flint and steel but being the person I am will take the easy way out as long as I can with either matches or a lighter .
     
    TMT Tactical and Old Geezer like this.
    1. Old Geezer
      Just bought me some more magnesium shavings. I keep these inside the fireplace when it's not in use or on the masonry around the fireplace. You can also buy fire lockers for flammable materials. I've also got a small steel locker with key. One must always be OCD concerning safety matters. My ammo is locked-up along with firearms not in immediate service. We have multiple fire-extinguishers -- buy the big ones.
       
      Old Geezer, Jan 9, 2021
      TMT Tactical likes this.
  23. poltiregist

    poltiregist Legendary Survivalist
      515/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Yesterday it was finally warm enough for me to get outside to work on a table with ample light to sketch names into liquid fueled lighters . These lighters I know to be exceptionally good lighters . I bought them for after the collapse for my kids and grandkids to be able to make a fire . They are all just alike , thus why I engraved their names into the copper casings . These went back into my survival stash to await for the proper time to be distributed . If I die before that time , at least each of my kids and grandkids will have a keepsake that I passed to them .
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  24. Pragmatist

    Pragmatist Master Survivalist
      485/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Good morning Poltiregist,

    Slightly different, but all winter I've been cleaning and packing up survival stuff for kids. I add a sticker, usually a file folder label or yellow stick on cut down to needed size - both also with extra Elmers craft glue.

    I've got much stuff here. The best allocated to grand kids. For a small appropriately sized steel crow bar for chipping ice, I glued a label reading "The ice was here, the ice was there, the ice was all around. THE RIME OF THE ANCIENT MARINER".

    I cleaned lens and strap on best binocular and glued a label for grand kids. A couple of years ago, our frat, US Army got involved in a procurement scandal with a contractor. The scandal involved an instrument Dale would use, a sniper scope. using same style lettering found on Minimag light bezels, the contractor delivered the order to Army procurement contracting officers. Contractor added to scope something not in the procurement requirement: "...the light to shine out of darkness ..." 2 COR 4:6. Scope now a collector's item.

    Also got ready for them some survival vest - well outfitted.

    Doing all this really was a tranquil time for me.

    I'm roughing it now ... probably loaded with COVID viruses ... and waiting for the J & J shot/jab so I can travel. My guess is BOTH OF US will be here when all Hades breaks loose. Nothing will be clean, cold and clinical. We'll be in a MESS.

    The scope company was TRijiconn of Wixon, Michigan.
     
    TMT Tactical and poltiregist like this.
  25. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
    TMT Tactical and poltiregist like this.
  26. poltiregist

    poltiregist Legendary Survivalist
      515/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Trying to think ahead , what I don't want is for me to end up with the only fire starting ability within our group and find myself trudging from house to house starting fires with my flint and steel . So my first group fall back plan is to give each household a zippo lighter . I have a substantial amount of fuel , wicks and flints put back to keep them operational . My second fallback plan is to pass out some large ferro rods out that are also waiting within the stash . My third fallback plan is me trudging from house to house with my flint and steel . I have been considering putting a stockpile of flint strikers in the stash for this scenario . We are located on a huge pile of flint rocks that range in size into the pounds to small useless pieces so we wouldn't run out of flints in a thousand years .
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2021
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  27. lonewolf

    lonewolf Societal Collapse Survivalist. Staff Member
      510/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    no way is better than another way.
    use what you have to hand.
    there has always been a saying that " use what you have to get to a place or point in time where it is no longer available ". dosent matter what that is.
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  28. Pragmatist

    Pragmatist Master Survivalist
      485/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Good afternoon Old Geezer,

    There's another positive attribute of the Zippo lighter from some Prepper's perspective.

    With artwork on the lighter, it is a mental health booster - especially during times of stress.

    Some of the art work is just outright high quality. Nowadays, we're so clinical depression sets in easier in our souroundings.

    Art can be healthy. Recall the cigar rings and their premier art. I had a friend who collected something your dad probably had and now in the Smithsonian collection: the glass pictures on the pinball machines. It is a great hobby collecting artwork.

    I do not like some artwork and their artists. Remember "The Holy Virgin Mary" and "Piss Christ" ? I vaguely remember the idiot from the San Francisco Art Institute (Academy?) who smeared herself with melted chocolate and asked for a volunteer from the audience.

    For actual survival tools, there were knives with beautiful art scenes on the blade. Some had handles from our Bambi creatures.

    I do carry some art work in my document pouch for evacs.
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  29. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
    The topic of psychological survival is really underserved in prepper discussions.

    OK, there are people whose personalities lend themselves to engaging in hermit behavior. This is, however, a rare trait among humans. Most humans seek the company of other humans. This is burned-in-the-circuitry / written-in-DNA behavior. Packs of humans and packs of dogs have a massive advantage in the realm of surviving over individual survival, thus the evolutionary instinct to form packs.

    Most people hate trouble-makers, thus the tendency of humans and wolves to shun or even kill those who do not fit in.

    But let's talk "normal" folk. Even us "normal" folk need happiness and pleasure. Kids need to be happy, else they will not mature properly, neither mentally nor physically -- children will atrophy. They will, look it up.

    This Chinacovid attack has denied oceans of children the happiness of bonding with their peers. There are stacks of psychological studies documenting the pathologies involved with children being isolated.

    I'm too lazy now to make suggestions, plus I've got to go do at least one happy thing -- visit a gun shop. But, people, you know what I mean. We need to make plans for activities and games during the hard times. Things as silly and seemingly stupid as having packs of playing cards about can be a very valuable addition to one's survival supplies. Games and toys for the kids constitute the cake, not the icing. Having packs of water flavorings such as Kool-Aid will help with keeping the kids smiling.

    As to people given to dark depressive episodes, you can't save them. Some can be successfully medicated. It's not on you unless you want to be some health-care provider -- that's a nasty job unto itself. Alcohol exacerbates depression; ETOH sure doesn't help depressives. Cigarettes, if they can be stored (that's a big "if") help some depressives. Does staff allow depressives and schizophrenics smoke? Oh, hell yes! If they live long enough to get emphysema or lung cancer, then that would be a miracle.
    .
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2021
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  30. lonewolf

    lonewolf Societal Collapse Survivalist. Staff Member
      510/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    there is a lot to be said in being a hermit, during the lock downs here many people have said that their mental health is suffering because of the isolation, in fact there have been cases of suicide during this period because of mental health issues.
    us Hermits dont suffer with any of this, personally I'm very happy not having to deal with the stupidity of human beings.
    in fact this is how I imagine post SHTF would be like, more boredom than battles, so if people cannot survive through a few months of enforced quarantine what will they do when faced with permanent isolation ? the suicide rate will sky rocket once the situation sinks in.
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  31. Max rigger

    Max rigger Master Survivalist
      415/460

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Talking to my sister in law (social worker) and she said that suicide is on the increase in the under 20s, epecially with young men and hanging is the popular method used but its not being talked about in the media, its being brushed aside at the moment.
     
  32. lonewolf

    lonewolf Societal Collapse Survivalist. Staff Member
      510/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    did she give any reason for the increase?
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  33. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
    When people are treated like cattle, when people do not have hope, they decompensate psychologically.

    "War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength." — George Orwell, 1984

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...-freedom-passports-denies-system-is-imminent/

    "The British government has awarded contracts to two firms to develop coronavirus “freedom passports” to enter into workplaces, pubs, and schools despite previously proclaiming that there are no plans to implement such a system.

    "The two contracts were awarded to develop a smartphone app that would create a digital passport with a QR code and picture that would be linked to confirmation of a negative coronavirus test. The QR codes would allow venues to screen and refuse entry to those who do not have a recent negative test result."

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1414406/

    "The suicide rate in the former Soviet Union rose from 17.1 per 100,000 inhabitants in 1965 to 29.6 in 1984. In regions of long-standing traditional lifestyles, strong religious faith and multi-generation families (the Caucasus and central Asia), the suicide rate was low, whereas in regions with sociopolitical antagonisms (Baltic States) and forced social changes (Russia), it was high. A significant decline in the suicide rate (34.5%), from 29.6 to 19.4 per 100,000 inhabitants, occurred in 1984-1988 throughout the Soviet Union, in the hopeful period of social democratization and stiff restrictions on the sale of alcohol. Rates varied widely between different republics - from 1.8 in Armenia to 26.3 in Lithuania and 24.3 in the Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic (RSFSR) in 1988. In contrast to the pattern in several countries in western Europe, the suicide rates in the Russian SFSR were much higher in the rural regions than in the urban ones."

    upload_2021-3-6_12-43-12.png
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  34. Max rigger

    Max rigger Master Survivalist
      415/460

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Guesswork on her part. Combination of things, lockdown is hitting some people hard mentally, drugs...not as easy to get hold of in lockdown etc. Whatever the reasons, its a sad state of affairs.

    My brothers happy, crime rate is down and he spends most of his shift sat on his ass. Big increase in domestic abuse call outs. Things will get back to normal once the pubs open up again so he's making the most of it.
     
  35. lonewolf

    lonewolf Societal Collapse Survivalist. Staff Member
      510/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    as a recluse I'm loving every minute of lock down, it means I dont have to deal with mass stupidity, and I cant see much changing after June 21st, masks will still have to be worn in public indoor areas and social distancing will be sensible.
    we dont see Police here, they closed all the rural Police stations, I guess all the crime is in the urban centres, it sure isnt here.
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  36. Max rigger

    Max rigger Master Survivalist
      415/460

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Bring on the 'Freedom of travel' (or enter pubs) apps, they are needed.

    Cyprus and Portugal are allowing brits back when flights resume so long as they have proof of having the two vaccine shots, no need to quarantine upon arrival and Spain is in talks about opening up a 'Green corridor' for direct flights to Spain so long as the tourists are vaccinated.

    If you don't have the shots you don't go to pubs or clubs etc, seems the right thing to do.

    I don't give a toss about any data collected about me, they already have it so who cares.
     
  37. lonewolf

    lonewolf Societal Collapse Survivalist. Staff Member
      510/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    I dont drink so no pubs for me, and my clubbing days are long behind me, I dont do foreign holidays havent even got a passport .
    you'll have to wait until May 17th before you can go into a pub. so over 2 months yet.
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  38. Max rigger

    Max rigger Master Survivalist
      415/460

    Blog Posts:
    0
    I'm like a lot of people in the UK now, only go to a pub if the food is good. I was talking to my lad about pubs, remember he's early 20s and he'd not lived with me prior to lockdown and it turns out him and his mates rarely use pubs, they tend to get together at home, open up a can of beer/bottle of wine and chat or watch a DVD sort of thing. The regular pub outing was Thursday night at Wetherspoons because its 'Curry Night', so curry, a pint and back to the flat.

    Not worried about Spain at the moment, I'll wait until the tourist season ends then if I spot a property online I fancy I'll fly out and take a look. Property prices are dropping so no rush to buy at the moment, prices will level off in the next 12 months I guess.
     
  39. lonewolf

    lonewolf Societal Collapse Survivalist. Staff Member
      510/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    I think a lot of people do that these days, its getting very expensive to drink in a pub and its mostly about food these days, I dont eat out much even before Covid and it'll be a long time before I do.
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  40. Morgan101

    Morgan101 Legendary Survivalist
      515/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  41. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
    "I don't give a toss about any data collected about me, they already have it so who cares."
    -- Maxine

    Odd way of reacting to having been spiritually raped. "Well they already castrated me, so there's nothing much I can do now."

    Fight back. Play dirty. If you are past fighting, then enable others who can. I seek the death of my enemies. One must appear nice, but do harm to those who wish to do harm. Harming Sacred Liberty is a cardinal sin. The days of governments of the West printing money brings closer the days of revenge. When the socialists come to need the Heartlanders most, we must not be there to help them in any way. I'll watch their ribs grow out of their chests.

    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: Let'em die. Let'em die. Let'em die. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
    .
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  42. TMT Tactical

    TMT Tactical The Great Lizard ! Staff Member
      510/575

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Quit tap dancing around Old Geezer. Tell us how you really feel. LMAO
     
  43. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
    Nope, don't know how to tap-dance.

    I do know however that one must be caught up in the dance of service to one's Creator. Those who would sully His Holy Robes must be buried. We do not cover them. They cover themselves in the dirt of their sins.

    upload_2021-3-9_8-6-14.png
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.
  44. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
      525/575

    Blog Posts:
    1
    Putting one of my Zippos in ziplock bag has been a raging success.

    Most cigarette lighters are used for lighting cigarettes. Duh! But what if you don't light the dang thing time after time.

    Well, I've been able to keep fluid in my regular Zippo (beautiful art nouveau lady on the case) for over a month and a half at a time. I'm being very conservative on this.

    I just wrap a reasonably full Zippo in a very good quality Ziplock bag wrapped / held together with a rubber band. I take it out once every three or four days or so to test it. Just lit the puppy and poof - Og have fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Without sealing it, evaporation eats the fuel in a week. I hate the after-market sealers I've tried. Plastic bags and rubber bands are cheap.

    OK, so my Zippo is NOT my go-to fire starter. I've got all manner of "other". But Homey likes him he Zippo.
    .
     
    TMT Tactical likes this.

Share This Page