Derek Chauvin’s Trial For The Death Of George Floyd

Discussion in 'News, Current Events, and Politics' started by Old Geezer, Apr 6, 2021.

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If Derek Chauvin is convicted of murder, will there still be riots?

  1. Not likely

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  2. Likely, yet the rioting will be minor

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  3. Very likely, yet the rioting will be minor

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  4. Very likely and the rioting will be major, much property damage, and possible loss of life

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  1. Old Geezer

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    If Derek Chauvin is NOT convicted of one of the murder charges on which he is being tried, there will likely be riots. Major cities are preparing for the riots. The threats of riots are numerous and perpetual. Riots will happen.

    However, what if Derek Chauvin IS convicted of some level of murder and sentenced to many decades in prison. Do you think that there will still be riots?
     
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  2. Old Geezer

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    I've begun a poll questioning whether there will be rioting in America even if police officer Derek Chauvin is convicted of murdering George Floyd.
     
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  3. TMT Tactical

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    The city apes will riot over free ice cream, if your did not offer them their favorite flavor. There will be riots.
     
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  4. Max rigger

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    I'd like to think that when he's found guilty of murder justice will be seen to have been done and people move on, allow his loved ones and family some closure.
     
  5. lonewolf

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    I think there will be riots if he ISNT found guilty.
     
  6. Old Geezer

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    The perpetual irresponsibles never have their emotions under control. They are always putting off those things that must be accomplished in life. They are always finding a reason to party. They are always finding excuses for their stacks of failures. When challenged, they fight. They are given to verbal aggression. They are given to physical aggression.

    A small minority of the population is responsible for the vast majority crime and public assistance.

    For socialism to work, reality must be denied. Taxpayers who are mentally weak lap-up the vomit of the mainstream media. Non-thinking people imagine that they can somehow pay-off the monsters.

    "They are just like us -- it's just that things went wrong for them. That's why they are violent." Yeah sure and the moon is made of cheese.

    People who "think" with their emotions shouldn't be allowed to vote. Can't do set theory, can't do math, should equal no voter card. Nope, never will happen; the collectivist elite need a herd over which they can rule, "Don't worry, be happy, we'll take care of you."
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  7. Old Geezer

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    Even if Chauvin is found guilty, there will be riots.
     
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  8. lonewolf

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    they dont need an excuse to riot.
     
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  9. arctic bill

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    I agree if he is found guilty then people will see justice done and NOT riot . However if he is found innocent there will be trouble as in the past with 1)Trevon martin 2) Rodney King 3) Michael Brown 4) Breonna Taylor.5) Daunte Wright and so many more. It just seems that the cops can do anything the African American's without any consequences. But this time it seems the blue wall is turning against one of its members . anyway that is how i see it.
     
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  10. Max rigger

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    Turning against one of its members or seeing what actually happened and doing their duty as it should do?
     
  11. Dalewick

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    There will be riots....Either way. If found guilty, they will be emboldened and riot for more control.

    If found innocent....needs no explanation.

    This isn't the 60's or 70's. There is a set objective and there minions are working hard to get there. As long as they remain in urban areas it will continue. When they start attacking rural areas, they won't be ready for what's waiting. Then the media will condemn the "violent country people" and say how they attacked the peaceful "protesters".

    The country has become a soap opera.

    Dale
     
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  12. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon all,

    My guess is that he will be found guilty.

    He will serve some time.

    Later on the time line, opinion polls will be take and focus groups studied.

    Then, the Chief of the Supremes will rely on the public pronouncements of Mpls providing a cash settlement to estate for a wrongful death.

    Then, it depends on what's going on in the country.
     
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  13. Old Geezer

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    first of two posts

    U.S. Congressional representative calls for greater confrontation if police officer is not convicted. Street "justice" to trump judicial system. Constitution burned. Drums of war.


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ma...the-street-if-chauvin-acquitted-in-floyd-case

    "U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., showed up at an anti-police brutality protest in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, on Saturday evening, saying demonstrators needed to "stay on the street," demanding justice until police reform becomes a reality.

    "'I’m going to fight with all of the people who stand for justice,' Waters told reporters shortly before an 11 p.m. curfew. 'We’ve got to get justice in this country and we cannot allow these killings to continue.'

    "Asked about the Derek Chauvin murder trial in Minneapolis, Waters told reporters if the former police officer isn't found guilty of murdering George Floyd, 'We've got to stay on the street and we've got to get more active, we've got to get more confrontational. We've got to make sure that they know that we mean business.'"
     
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  14. Old Geezer

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    second post of two

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...remarks-she-spoke-her-mind-i-love-her-for-it/

    "Saturday on CNN’s 'Newsroom,' host Jim Acosta asked Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) to react to her colleague Rep. Rashida Tlaib’s (D-MI) social media post calling for 'no more policing' and other so-called reforms on the heels of the death of Daunte Wright.

    "Waters chalked up Tlaib’s reaction to a desire for 'justice' and said she appreciated and loved Tlaib for her outspokenness on the subject.

    "'I’m here today, because, number one, I want to show that there are members of Congress who really care about what is happening with these cases, and whether or not we’re going to get justice, or whether or not the police unions and the lies they tell are going to win,' she added. 'So she spoke her mind been, and I appreciate that, and I love her for it.'”
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    1. Dalewick
      And Good will be considered Evil and Evil will be considered good.
       

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  15. Old Geezer

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    Today Monday 19 April 2021, closing arguments are to be made in the trial of Derek Chauvin. Police departments have been preparing for the riots that could be set-off post-trial.

    Urban preppers are undoubtedly on top of the situation. My prayers are with you.

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...s-off-as-derek-chauvin-verdict-looms/3004696/

    "The New York City Police Department has instructed its officers not to take unscheduled days off beginning Monday and until further notice.

    "Closing arguments in the trial of former Minneapolis Officer Derek Chauvin, the white officer charged with murder in the death of George Floyd, are set to take place on Monday following three weeks of testimony.

    "A memo obtained by the New York Post that included the edict and was issued Friday is in preparation for possible protests following a verdict in the closely watched case. In a statement, the NYPD said the order was 'necessary in order to satisfy personnel requirements for any post Derek Chauvin verdict protests.'"

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spenc...es-are-preparing-for-chauvin-verdict-n2588045

    https://ktla.com/news/local-news/be...-of-impending-verdict-in-derek-chauvin-trial/

    https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/04/16/boston-police-prepare-protests-barricades-derek-chauvin/
     
  16. Old Geezer

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    https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-becomes-fortress-ahead-of-verdict-in-george-floyd-trial

    "Minneapolis looks like a military fortress ahead of the George Floyd murder trial verdict — with fears heightened by a drive-by shooting targeting some of the thousands of National Guard members trying to protect the city.

    "The Minnesota city had already dramatically increased security ahead of the trial of ex-cop Derek Chauvin — ramping it up even further following the fatal police shooting of Daunte Wright in Brooklyn Center, a Minneapolis suburb just 10 miles from where Floyd was killed.

    "As jury deliberations are set to start Monday in Chauvin’s murder trial, dramatic photos show huge chunks of the Twin Cities completely boarded up, fenced off and swamped by armed troops and military vehicles.

    "The National Guard has activated more than 3,000 troops to back up more than 1,000 law enforcement officers already involved in the multi-agency "Operation Safety Net" protecting the troubled area.

    "Guard members in fatigues are stationed across the city, in front of regular buildings as well as the heavily fortified police and court buildings, the Star Tribune noted. Law enforcement agencies from Ohio and Nebraska have also been called in to bolster security.

    "'All this military presence — it feels strange, like I’m in a movie or something,' Reese Farrell, 17, told the paper."

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  17. TexDanm

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    They aren't rioting to protest. For most of them it is all about looting and stealing stuff from stores and businesses. If Black lives mattered to Blacks they would stop killing eachother in mass as they do every year.
     
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  18. Old Geezer

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    Sacrilege! Off to a re-education camp for you, sez Hilary!

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    The National Guard is being brought into cities to protect minorities from the evil Amish and Quakers!

    Correct your ways, Tex! Sounds like you need to be be assimilated into the Borg collective.

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  19. Dalewick

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    After watching much of the testimony and videos of the incident, I believe my previous opinion that the officer was innocent, was wrong. I don't believe what he did was premeditated murder, but it does meet the definition of murder.

    Be interesting to see what happens. Glad I don't live in Minnesota any more.

    Dale
     
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  20. TexDanm

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    Once a man is down handcuffed and not resisting the cop needs to get the hell off. Instead of doing what was right that cop murdered that man for some reason. Anger, pride or whatever, it doesn't matter a cop is suposed to be trained and is held to a higher standard. Part of that training has to do with keeping your emotions under control. He failed miserably and it cost a man his life.
     
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      During the trial it came out that previously Floyd and the officer had had an altercation at a night club they had both been working at. The officer didn't get the best of it. I'm thinking revenge.
       
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  21. wally

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    guilty.....riots, this will "prove" that white people/gov't are out to kill all minorities
    not guilty....riots, this will "prove" that white people/gov't are out to kill all minorities

    i think there was a strong case against conviction but here are the jurors, you decide...

    6 white women
    3 black men
    2 multi-racial women
    3 white men
    1 black woman

    10 are under 50
    5 are over 50

    youngest 20
    oldest 60

    i say he goes down like a sack of rocks in a river/lake...:(

    https://news.yahoo.com/chauvin-trial-know-jury-230313668.html
     
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  22. Old Geezer

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ctivated-in-advance-of-derek-chauvin-verdict/

    "The District of Columbia National Guard is activating 250 members to support local law enforcement 'in response to potential First Amendment demonstrations,' the agency announced Monday in a press release.

    "The request was made by the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department, which has already been responding to a week of protests in the nation’s capital, in response to other recent police-involved incidents."

    Wait wait wait, "... in response to potential First Amendment demonstrations ..." ?! Just what exactly does the First Amendment say? Let's look:

    The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (with the exception of Secular Humanism), or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press to create their own version of the news; or the right of the people to loot and burn, and to petition the Government for an endless stream of retribution money from the progeny of those labeled as oppressors."


    Well, it sure does appear that the rioters have every right to riot and burn down cities. Hmmm ... I don't remember reading the First Amendment and it saying those things, but I guess I'm mistaken. This is a new Amerika after all.
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  23. wally

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    verdict is in but not revealed took about 6 hours of deliberation to decide...get ready...
     
  24. wally

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    verdict: guilty of second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter ...lets see what happens now and if we have any police after its all over...
     
  25. poltiregist

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    His chances of surviving a year in prison are slim .
     
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  26. Old Geezer

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    All police working in urban Amerika should develop "blue flu" for a few weeks/months. Actually they should leave Amerikan cities and get jobs in America. Same for national guard members. Guard members are not being allowed the means of self-defense when facing "humans" who cannot control their glandular activities.

    https://consumersadvisory.com/2021/...aces-for-unrest-after-chauvin-guilty-verdict/

    "Washington, D.C. National Guard troops stationed in the city 'will not be armed,' at the request of Mayor Muriel Bowser, as the nation’s capital braces for large-scale protests and unrest after the verdict in the trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, Fox News has learned.

    "Chauvin was found guilty of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter in the death of George Floyd on Tuesday.

    "Fox News has learned that hundreds of troops are being deployed to protect civilians from protests, rioting and looting at 30 different locations across the city, but all are prohibited from carrying any weapons or arms whatsoever, according to a directive from Bowser’s office, and approval by the acting secretary of the Army.

    "Bowser’s office sent a letter to Maj. Gen. William Walker of the D.C. National Guard earlier this month, requesting troops be “activated” to assist the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department.

    “No DCNG personnel will be armed or engaged in any law enforcement activity during this activation,” the letter to Walker, from director of D.C.’s Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency, Christopher Rodriguez, wrote earlier this month.

    "Bowser’s administration also told Walker that “the mission of the DCNG during this activation will primarily be crowd management, ‘Quick Response Force’ (QRF) and to assist with blocking vehicles at traffic posts.'

    "Multiple National Guard sources told Fox News that troops are 'outraged' by the request, with one comparing the assignment to serving as 'boycotts with reflective vests.'”

    Question: How can they protect civilians if they themselves are unarmed?! Maybe the civilians who voted into office (legally and illegally) these communist rulers should receive ZERO protection from the mayhem being dished out by their fellow travelers.

    Again, I hope that police and National Guard members refuse to enter the urban cancers. Let the cancers eat themselves.

    Protesters wish the destruction of members of the National Guard:

    https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-o...l-guard-after-chauvin-verdict-in-minneapolis/

    And of course, there's the new communist abbreviation ACAB.

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    Remember the beating of Reginald Denny by the street savages back in 1993. If you don't remember, look up the video and information online ... while the info is still online. The oligarchs are wiping out all information that does not follow collectivist dogma.

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1384628197929717765

    I wish the video would show whether this trucker was able to get out of there. Hope he's safe. Wish he would have had a sub-gun and a stack of loaded magazines. Maybe someday, a trucker will put his rig in reverse a few yards, then put his truck in forward and crush his way through one of these mobs. Crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch!

    Shouldn't the anti-Christ crowd be willing to give up their lives for the "freedom of the masses"!

    They wish to replace The Christ. Let them.
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  27. lonewolf

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    I dont think any other verdict was possible.
     
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  28. watcherchris

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    Race race race..and more race....

    I have no interest in being "Herded" by race or of measuring everything I think or evaluate by someone else's PC view on race and racism.

    However...I am getting concerned that in up and coming elections the new litmus test for any pubic office is going to be ones stance on race and racism...like PC stance.

    In like manner to times past and Abortion..it mattered not what your qualifications were for the office...only thing that mattered was your stance on Abortion..

    And I fear so too will it become today with race and racism....

    If someone out here will rig race and racism to socially and politically "herd' people...will they rig an election....
    Just thinking along rabid trails...concerning man's fallen nature...


    This thing is not over by a long shot.....I suspect there will be appeals...and more threats of violence and or civil discord..deliberate chaos manufacturing..by the usual suspects..including the media.

    Again..Ishmaelites run wild...


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  29. Dalewick

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    Where the judge did not have the jury sequestered the entire time. If the defense can prove that just one jury member watched the news, read a newspaper or magazine that had anything about the case in it or got on the internet. There is grounds for a mistrial and it starts all over again.

    I thought it odd that for a case of this scope that the judge didn't sequester the jury from the beginning. Wonder why he didn't?

    Dale
     
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  30. watcherchris

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    I did not know that Dalewick...about the judge and jury.....having not been much interested in the trial...by suspicion...too political/social.

    I have been avoiding much of the news coverage of it..and also figured I would learn more from sites like this and others...than sifting through a biased media...

    Too much racial political football for me....and I am naturally suspicious of such.

    We used to refer to this kind of social/political football..as manufactured change agents..
    Meaning who or what is doing the manufacturing and towards what goal....more liberty and freedom or more herding...??
    That is my main concern...but thanks for that update..


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  31. Max rigger

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    Please tell me your not serious. If you believe whats posted on small forums like this and others you'd believe the USA and Europe was in flames and the Rapture was due. Read lots of sources.
     
  32. arctic bill

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    I think the Aryan brotherhood will protect him in prison . he will be seen as their champion , as bad as that is .
     
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  33. arctic bill

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    I did not see any rioting at all, In fact i have seen justice served. For once .
     
  34. Dalewick

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    Unless they have changed since I retired. The Aryan brotherhood will kill him just for having been a cop. If he's lucky he will spend all his time under an assumed name and mostly in solitary confinement. Everyone is going gunning for that tear tat.

    Dale
     
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  35. TexDanm

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    Actually it is unlikely that he will be killed in the first year. That happening would look bad on the prison system. I guarantee that he will spend several years in protective segregation. That means basically solitary confinement. In my opinion that is worse than death. A lot of people put in that situation request to be put into general population after a while preferring to take their chances to living like that indefinably.

    In a few years ths will all be old news and his risk in general population at a low security prison is pretty small. A lot of people in a high security general population prison have nothing to lose and so will kill someone just for the notoriety. Once they are into a less secure place with lots more freedoms they are a lot less likely to kill someone just for the hell of it. Many of those people are nearing parole.
     
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  36. poltiregist

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    I am on the same page . Rarely since the U.S. political coup do I watch the propaganda presented to the world as facts . I seek underground sources to obtain truth . So neither have I been keeping up with the trial . My world as a survivalist now is more centered around my more immediate survival circle . As one old saying goes for us " the circling of the wagons " has begun .
     
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  37. watcherchris

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    I don't believe in the Rapture....

    I also knew long before home computers how awful American news media is.....

    This because I liked to listen/monitor my shortwave set long before I got my ham license...and this alone taught me how awful our media really is...how biased and it is showing up even today..

    I am not interested in tabloid news media...I can get tabloid at work.....at least I am on the clock...

    I keep a Tecsun PL 660 in a locker at work with spare batteries. Also a concealed 40 foot piece of wire as an external antenna.

    Amazon.com: TECSUN PL-660 Portable AM/FM/LW/Air Shortwave World Band Radio with Single Side Band, Black: Home Audio & Theater


    So much of our leadership today is tabloid to me...no matter what party of which we are speaking.

    I am not interested in tabloid news ....or someone trying to grab me by my emotions....just not interested.


    We handle uranium 235 at work....drama and tabloid is not going to get it in this kind of job...

    Hence my knowledge and understanding of our media .....

    I have known this about our media and leadership for many many years now....tabloid...

    I have no use for someone ...leadership or not trying to grab or control me by emotions...fear...et al...
    Not interested...

    To me....Tabloid is not leadership..

    And Maxine is Tabloid......not interested in such Ishmaelite two legged tabloid wildlife...


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  38. Max rigger

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    Some overseas newspapers do online versions in English and its worth looking at them, you sometimes see a news item from a different slant at times

    https://www.spiegel.de/international/
    https://english.elpais.com/
    https://mondediplo.com/

    I've owned a Tecsun R-909 (or is it R-903? can't remember) for some years now and its a good little radio but had a great deal off a guy I worked with, a Sony ICF-SW7600GR with a longwire antenna and stored in a Pelecan case, got the lot for £75/$100 which I think is a bargain.

    Do you use https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06q9h6q BBC Sounds? Fantastic site, the news is still pretty good but its worth having on your phone/computer anyway for the mix of radio stations, from Radio 1 for 'pop' through to Radio 4 and the World Service and there are some fantastic podcasts available covering all sorts of topics.
     
  39. Old Geezer

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    Hollywood celebrity setting a high standard for the youth of America

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertain...ion-lets-go-get-the-rest-of-them-motherfkers/

    "Coming to America 2 actress and host of ABC’s Supermarket Sweep Leslie Jones reacted to the conviction of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin in a video message to her 1.4 million Twitter followers, saying 'Now let’s get the rest of them motherf###ers.'

    “'Guilty. Guilty. Guilty,' said Jones in a video she posted to Twitter, likely in reference to the three charges in the death of George Floyd, which the jury found Chauvin guilty of on Tuesday.

    “'Now let’s get the rest of them motherf###ers,' Jones added, in apparent reference to other police officers involved in unfortunate or tragic incidents.

    "Last summer, after the death of George Floyd, Jones suggested that protesters 'vote' in an effort to 'burn down this f###ing Constitution,' rather than burn down buildings.

    “'I love that you guys are protesting and see how quick you did it. But I’m gonna tell you, to get the f### what you really want, we’re going to have to change the f###ing system,' she said. 'And to change the system, we have to f###ing vote.'

    “'You want to burn down buildings? Burn down this f###ing Constitution,' Jones added. 'That’s how we really show them.'”
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  40. Max rigger

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    I like the Australians

     
  41. watcherchris

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    by Max Rigger..

    Oh...absolutely ..and I agree...a very different perspective...

    That is precisely what learned via shortwave...the variety of news and viewpoints out there once you get away from America's rigged media.

    I would often listen to radio Canada...or radio Deutschland when they would broadcast in English....Even radio Moscow when they would broadcast relay out of Cuba....even the BBC.

    Oh..and my phone is an olde flip phone which does not have all those features you are describing.....pretty much text and talk....


    Like here you don't have to agree with everything on the shortwave but you often get details left out by our news media...and I think deliberately so.

    Here I particularly stay away from Chicken Noodle News....our local name for CNN. Also MSNBC...

    If I want company sponsored racism...I will tune into those stations..but no thanks.

    I do not define who and what I am by race...but those places will....while labeling others racist.

    And so too will much of the left in this country.

    I do not have and will not have race and racism on my plate 24/7.

    But I understand that it has become a very popular for herding people by guilt and shame by race and for votes.

    Not for me thanks.


    Our current leadership in this country is, to me, nothing more than Obama II....and I know this by their heavy dependency on race and racism...it is like a drug to them.

    And they need to get everyone on the same drug dependency as them.

    I have every confidence that there will be manufactured another George Floyd for power and votes...

    Drugs can be very powerful and deceptive.....like Ishmaelites.

    Da Tavorich!!!


    Watcherchris
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  42. watcherchris

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    by the way....

    Though I am reading this two volume set in reverse order....something comes outs clearly to me..



    "The Rise of American Civilization"

    By

    Charles and Mary Beard....circa 1927.

    In describing conditions before the American Revolution ....it is clear that the English King..George III and many in Parliament wanted to herd the Colonialists...in many ways repugnant to them...Colonial America.

    Also something of which I was unaware until reading this two volume set...and that is as commerce and manufacturing increased in the Colonies the trade efforts of the Colonialists began to heavily compete with English Merchants.

    The English Merchants began to dislike Colonial commerce and trade and wanted to severely limit this and force the Colonialists to buy English...not their own trade.

    And this accelerated hostile feelings ...as Parliament passed legislation to control and regulate Colonial business...trade and commerce.

    Eventually this heavy handedness began to be reflected in much of what is Illustrated in the first Ten Amendments to our Constitution. They are not there by accident.

    I see in a Secular/Socialist manner ...our current Government as doing very similar to what King George III did to the Colonialists...our fore fathers. Folding , spindling , mutilating our Bill of Rights under the guise of Social Justice...and or double standards....and backed by corporate sponsors as well...ie...the Media.

    Be Warned of History repeating itself....just with different times and players...

    But you have to know some history to catch it....


    Ishmaelites run wild...


    MY non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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      Power being centralized into the hands of but a few "elites" has throughout human history turned those in power into unimaginably vile monsters. And it sure isn't just government that will go bad. This corruption happens in industry, in religious groups, in families, ..., wherever. Physical power must be vested in the hands of ALL people. Those who go mean must be immediately eliminated. What is sad is that monsters often breed before they are identified as abusers of power.
       
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    Fox and CNN are awful news sources, I look at both but the editorials are often way off the mark in terms of truth and reality. CNN coverage of Prince Phillip's funeral and general Royal chatter has been way off the mark with lots of personal BS opinions; they know as much about the Royal Family as Meghan Markle does so sweet eff all. Harry and Meghan are about as popular as a fart in a space suit in the UK but according to CNN the brits love the couple :D

    I read a lot of news sources but I'm very selective on what I believe...I hate 'fake' news.
     
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    Words are words. If there exist photos and or videos, then go with the true reality of the situation. There are mean cops that need to be taken off the force or even taken out of society itself -- power over other people is addictive and corrupting. But if you are the cop in a situation where you have been called to the scene of mega-violence, do you try to stop the violence or let them kill each other to save your career? I sure wouldn't want to be a cop in this era where all police are micro-managed.

    I hope cops leave their profession in droves. I'm hoping that America will lose 30% of law enforcement or more. Urban police forces are no longer getting enough applications to replace those who are leaving -- good! Let the experiment begin. Let the strong and the moral survive. We'll see what happens to the disarmed and the aggressors who predate upon them.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/neighbor-with-footage-of-makhia-bryant-shooting-the-video-doesnt-lie

    "Police say they were called to the scene around 4:30 p.m. after receiving a report of someone attempting to stab other individuals at a home.

    "The bodycam footage shows that as soon as police arrived, a young female tackled another female to the ground, having what appeared to be a knife in her hand. The girl can then be seen charging at another female while raising the purported knife in the air - at which point the officer opened fire.

    "Brinson noted that the officer was not faced with many choices, since he 'only had seconds to respond.'"

    Don't you just love the phrase, "purported knife"!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    "Appears to be attacking ..." :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: "Appears?!" Bullsh##, she had a knife. Had she had a fake knife or a fake firearm, it wouldn't have mattered. Law enforcement MUST assume that a weapon is a weapon. If you pull a fake weapon, then you have put your life in risk of termination.

    The attacker IS attacking. What else can be said?!. A "person" has gone utterly and totally berserk. She absolutely DOES have a knife and is trying to kill people. End of discussion.

    I feel sooooooooo sorry for the cop! He is trapped in having to deal with explosive sub-human behavior. The cop has been given next to zero time to make a life or death decision. His decision was to try to save the life of the little girl who WAS going to be stabbed by the manic out-of-control armed attacker. Thank God the cop saved the innocent girl's life.
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    I read with interest the comments on the above news story.

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    I am SO glad I am retired. It was stupid enough before I retired but I wouldn't go back to law enforcement for any amount of money now. Wouldn't be worth it. You would be better off to be a mercenary/military contractor now.

    It may take a while but Karma will come home to them.

    Dale
     
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    Max...agree again....

    I don't trust Fox News as well. For I know enough history to catch them not speaking of certain things and events in history which would clarify much of what is happening today.

    Caught them at it several times.


    But again you have to know some history......and I believe much of history today is poorly taught for a reason.....

    In Short...dumbing us down.

    When I have time I Like to read....and in particular history. But even in that you have to be careful of the history you read...it too can be deceptive...


    Oh....and about the Royals....that is your business....The Royals..

    As a Yank I am not a fan of royalty....

    I am verily insulted here with very dumb Americans who think Hollywood people are some kind of Royalty.

    I do not like it here when the Royals come to Williamsburg, Virginia just up the road from me and have something to do with the College of William and Mary. It seems to be a regular stop when they come to America.

    College of William and Mary....House of Orange..
    I don't think many Americans have a clue about that history as well...

    My non Ishmaelite .02,

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    About the book I was reading...

    "The Rise of American Civilization"

    by Charles and Mary Beard..

    Last night I gave up on reading this two volume set after reading a portion for which I knew some history which few want us to know......about the period or American History called The Great Awakening.

    Great Awakening - Wikipedia

    The author credits the Great Awakening to John Wesley and I greatly disagree..

    For I know of the impact on Colonial America and The Great Awakening by a preacher named George Whitefield.......both in England and also later here in America.

    This was totally left out of this book...telling me something very important about the Authors.

    Also the Authors heavily pushed the Secular view......which I considered another very important clue.

    After that I put the book away after only reading a volume and a half.....



    I am now onto reading...

    Progress and Poverty

    By Henry George

    Circa....1905



    Now...

    Here is what I have already picked up on here in Progress and Poverty...though I am only a little bit into this book.


    The author is discussing Wealth Redistribution......and Justice.

    What .....Wealth Redistribution as Justice....back in 1905?????



    As I read through this book.....I will be looking for traces of what I have discovered about Today's Wealth Redistribution.....

    And that is....I know that Wealth is acquired by taking risks...laboring ...for wealth...

    I am asking myself if the author is going to create Wealth Redistribution with or without Risk Taking..


    For it is clear that today's justice people are going to attempt to redistribute wealth without Risks...or Risk Taking.



    What this means to people who can still think outside or our ersatz tabloid leadership or Tabloid Hollywood ....is that someone will have to Risk Twice or more to keep this wealth created and redistributed.

    This is involuntary servitude....the same thing as Obama Care.....someone has to work twice or more to keep health care so that others can get it for free.

    And they want to bring in Illegals...carte blanche...so that the rest of us can work even more to get goods for others for free.

    You see....??

    And these Phony Republicans will not tell or teach this to people telling me also what that party is.

    This kind of thing is not Justice...it is involuntary servitude.


    Be Warned of this kind or caliber of Ishmaelites....


    I will be following this new book carefully with this understanding in mind....freebees for some at the expense of others....for votes..


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
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