Surviving the modern South Africa.

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  1. jeager

    jeager Master Survivalist
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    sterkte f (plural sterkten or sterktes)

    1. Expression used to wish someone the strength to persevere whatever hardship they are experiencing
    2. strength of materials or of optic devices such as lenses of mirrors.
    3. "good luck"
    I carry also and don't play games.

    22.5 years as a white cop in the mean streets of a 50% "ethnic" city.

    13 serious injuries, 9 months in rehab learn to walk again after 4th broken
    back....................

    I'm retired (disabled) and no one is ever going to hurt me again with a
    free "get out of jail race card!"

    That's not a racial comment.
    It's reality.
    Our 55 man force had TWO black officers.
    The city tried to recruit local ethnics to join the force, even lowered entrance
    standards to no avail.
     
  2. Old Geezer

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    Woke up, went to web to read myself back to sleep, found your thread, found a bunch of articles related. Am very frustrated at not being able to find groups to sponsor the whites of S.Africa who are being oppressed by the collapse of civilization therein. Sorry!

    I'd recommend you come to America, however we are entering a pre-civil-war time-frame here. I reference the shootings and other attacks directed against conservative congress members. I'm living in what I think will turn out to be a safe-ish place, but know that I will have to return to my home state to find anything close to safety when the SHTF here in America. I've focused on Canada for you in my web searches this evening.

    Hopefully, the following links will be of aid to you:

    http://www.cic.gc.ca/ENGLISH/refugees/index.asp

    According to above link, South Africans would require a VISA to enter Canada -- people from numerous targeted nations do not.
    http://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...s/news-story/6882cebcd8d518cf949bb861b617d8ac

    WND article:
    http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/next-refugees-for-america-white-south-africans/

    Racist S.A. Bishop
    http://whitegenocideproject.com/whi...o-escape-diversity-says-south-african-bishop/

    Forced removal of whites from S.A.?
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...ghter-and-removal-all-whites-within-five-year
    http://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/2017/02/26/New-Preppers-Strategize-To-Defeat-Genocide
    http://www.news24.com/Africa/Zimbab...ada-with-wife-kids-after-land-seized-20161006

    Canadian Bank ad:
    https://newcomer.cibc.com/?utrc=S20...tates&ef_id=WUNkXAAAAQ2G6zBG:20170616045348:s
    Canada Express Entry (U.S. citizens targetted, however they'd not look down their noses at South Africans, surely):
    https://www.y-axis.co.uk/usa-to-canada/?gclid=CNyjxK_JwdQCFYmPswodtpQClA

    Furniture rental in Canada:
    https://www.cortglobal.com/canada/?...anada&ef_id=WUNkXAAAAQ2G6zBG:20170616045902:s

    Here's a law firm advertisement aimed at folk wanting to get to and stay in Canada:
    https://www.geramilaw.com/?gclid=CLefns3KwdQCFVVMDQodGbYOew

    "Accept persecuted white South Africans to Australia!"
    https://www.change.org/p/australian-government-accept-white-south-african-refugees-to-australia
     
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  3. Mekada

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    Unfortunately i might soon have to fight a civil war anyway so why not an American one... i dont know if SA can be saved at this stage... Thank you, i am going to check it out!
     
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  4. OursIsTheFury

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    That's messed up. To think that close to your house you had to watch out for danger. I live in the heart of my city so you'd think there would be more chaos compared to the outskirts, but in reality it's more the opposite. There are patrolling cops everywhere so people can't really do whatever they want; there are gangs here but they mostly are quiet in this area because of all the surveillance and guards posted per each apartment (I live in a university belt where apartments cater students studying nearby) so I guess that's another thing that's going for this place.
     
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  5. streettallest

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    South Africa has become too unsafe for everyone especially the foreigners. This gupe of attack is common these days, without any corresponding action from the government to arrest the situation. Carrying of weapon in such a country is a good choice.
     
  6. Old Geezer

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    South Africa is doomed. I'm hoping that the civilized folk will somehow find the means by which to extricate themselves from that country, from that continent.

    America's cities, especially the inner cities, are also toast -- it is but a matter of time. And there is Britain's London -- each time it burns, the boundary of the destruction widens. Hopefully London will be destroyed utterly, for its inhabitants have abandoned all Godly principles.
     
  7. lonewolf

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    I think your right about London, any concentrated catastrophe and most of the inhabitants are stuffed, just looking at the map just shows how built up the South East of England is, and 8 million people taking to the roads would just turn the highways into one giant parking lot.
     
  8. Mekada

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    I agree. I heard there was another terrorist attack this morning. As for South Africa, some are preparing and training and the majority believes that no SHTF or countrywide WROL situation will ever occur. I am sad to say but given our downward economic trajectory and couple that with the worsening political instability things are getting ugly. We are in the worst drought in almost a hundred years and food prices are on the increase weekly. We are also going to be getting some new laws including the radical land distribution, a new sugar tax, and a harsh demerit system for vehicle users. We are a powder keg gentleman... When and why is anybodies guess.
     
  9. Old Geezer

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    My knee-jerk response remains the same. Get out if at all possible. There is zero hope for South Africa -- it will have to utterly collapse and burn before getting any better. If not political chaos & violence, then it will be some biological disaster such as a form of Ebola that will be as contagious as the flu. South Africa, indeed all of Africa, is doomed. I see over 90% of the human population of Africa dying-off. The word "panic" will not even begin to describe what will exist near the end of the cataclysm.

    If a fulminating plague begins in Africa, the nations of the world will have to isolate themselves or perish also.
     
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  10. Mekada

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    I wish I could but my family is here so until i can evacuate them I can't go anywhere. You're right. Africans are not a clean people and we do battle with infectious diseases. To make matters worse our corrupt officials steal money from the system so there isn't enough money to pay for the medicine that people so desperately need. There have been cases where hospital staff have even sold supplies as they weren't paid for a number of months. I agree. Save yourself and your loved ones. Africa is doomed because of it's mindset. In these uncertain times anything could set it off. I don't know if I am going to make it but if I can safely get my family out I would regard that as a victory.
     
  11. Old Geezer

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    Yep. So it goes. Fully understood.

    Like most men of my generation, I was raised to believe that I was supposed to fix any situation / make everything better. Gets burned into your head. A guy just can't turn that brain circuit off. And your kids are still your kids when they are now in their 30's. Thus the survivalist, "I'll get us through hell and high water!"

    Things go wrong, trips the circuit, and flames shoot out your eyes. Those constant jolts of fight-or-flight hormones are just great for our coronary arteries.

    Some sh## you can't fix. I've destroyed my mind and my body running into that brick wall over and over again. Maybe God got a kick out of torturing me, brought a smile to His face, made Him happy. Me, not so much.
     
  12. Mekada

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    Some sh## you can't fix. I've destroyed my mind and my body running into that brick wall over and over again. Maybe God got a kick out of torturing me, brought a smile to His face, made Him happy. Me, not so much.[/QUOTE]

    Sounds like you have seen some shit in your time...
    Kind of reminds me of that famous quote... "show me a hero and I'll write you a tragedy."

    Being who we are is both a blessing and a curse. We see what others choose not to, yet we are responsible for them... Irregardless whether they appreciate it or not.
     
  13. jeager

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    "show me a hero and I'll write you a tragedy."
    Absolutely the truth. I don't see me as anything like a hero but evidently someone(s) did.
    Six commendations for valor, one from the Governor, 13 serious injuries, NINE MONTHS in
    rehab getting use of a paralyzed leg, permanent intractable pain, p.t.s.d.....................
    disabled with a sh$t pension to survive on,.....................
    BUT! Screw all that. After rehab I got a grant to go to college, earned 2 degrees, did 8 years in
    management for General Motors, and retired with an income of over $60K annually tax free!
    That + investments in the market of over $50K! I have a small ranch home on 15 acres of woods with a gun range out to 200 yards!
    I own over 55 guns, maybe 60+ by now and thousands of rounds of ammo. :D:D:D
    P#ss on everyone else.
    They can shove those commendations. They mean nothing to anyone but me.:p

    Bawwwwwwwwwww, hawwwwwwwwww. Just a few weeks ago I was diagnosed with
    bi-polar disorder. Sooooooooooooooooo???????????????
    I'm crazy as an outhouse mouse. I LIKE being a mite nuts. I'm also HARMLESS.
    Being nuts ain't bad, I'm personable, loving, kind, generous, and well liked.
    Damn I'm great! (joke there folks.)
    I'm harmless unless someone(s) is harming me, mine, you, or yours.
     
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  14. Old Geezer

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    I like your take, your phraseology.

    If one "wakes up" in this world, he realizes that they are in the middle of a nightmare from which one is unable to extricate himself. In this new state of being, your perceptions are vivid and your knowing is keen.

    Wow, how neat to have these insights!

    Oh ####, I'm living in an psycho purgatory! You ask God for some way out.

    Silence.

    He knows you know that the door is a coffin lid.

    That's when you become a "stranger in a strange land". Camus when in America was observed to be more cheerful than one would expect given the bleakness of his recent novel. Of this, Camus said, "Just because you have pessimistic thoughts you don’t have to act pessimistic." (from the "Talk of the Town" pub. by New Yorker).

    Should you make any attempt to awaken the sleepwalkers, they scream at you, maybe cackle with childish or insane laughter. When that which you warned them about actually comes crashing into their life, then they see the horrid event as being a thing caused by you.

    Camus would say that we must make some sense out of rolling our own Sisyphean stone. I say, Cold comfort that! No no no I'm gonna curse and stomp and flip the Fates the bird. But then, I'm a head-banger.
     
  15. Steve-0

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    My wife and her family moved to the states 18 years ago due to SA continually getting worse. We took a trip there two years ago and tried our best to stay out of harms way. We were thinking of going again next year but the elections have created such an unstable climate we thought better not to. Its sad. My wife's family can be traced back to the first boer settlers and the country is beautiful. But the politically correct bullshit ruined that country for good. Its mob rule and squatter camps all with their hands out. Good luck, listen to your Aus and Canadian expats when they tell you to get the f out. Its only going to get worse. How many white farmers are being murdered a day now? Farms are burned, women are raped and murdered... Its easy for me to say get out, but get out!
     
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  16. poltiregist

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    Steve_O appreciate the insight in South Africa . It may take a few years for it to really hit home but seems to me the United States it sliding into a similar cesspool . more and more people here won't to simply take what they want . The hatred one group has for another with no logical bases is astounding .
     
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  17. Old Geezer

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    One of my undergrad degrees was Psych. Not too long back a study comes out using pooled data from numerous studies saying that negative events in a person's life can lead to depression.

    Holy f###ing sh##! How many hundreds of thousands of tax dollars were spent to state the obvious?! Let's say some dude goes through hell and damnation, then comes out the other side unfazed. Hmmmmmm ... y'think maybe this fellow has no heart -- I do. I can paint a barn with another man's blood but I am stricken when I see dying children.

    It is said even by the Prophets that no soul will be tested beyond its ability to cope. What BS!
     
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  18. Keith H.

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    Sounds like good advice to me, long time since I was in South Africa, & back then it was like being in a very hot room lined with dried grass & you were watching & waiting for someone to light a match!
    Keith.
     
  19. Old Geezer

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    https://www.breitbart.com/national-...th-toll-from-south-africa-riots-reaches-337/#

    "South Africa’s “looting death toll” from social unrest in the country’s eastern provinces of Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal reached 337 on Thursday, the Daily Maverick reported.

    "South Africa’s latest bout of social unrest first began as public protests against the jailing of ex-South African President Jacob Zuma on July 8 on charges of contempt of court. South Africa’s Constitutional Court handed Zuma a 15-month prison sentence on June 29 for failing to appear at a court hearing related to an investigation of alleged graft during his presidency (2009-2018). Zuma handed himself over to the Estcourt Correctional Center in his home province of KwaZulu-Natal just before midnight on July 7 to begin his prison sentence.

    "The action prompted outrage from Zuma loyalists, who staged demonstrations the next day calling for Zuma’s release. These protests quickly escalated into riots and looting, however, spiraling into a hurricane of violent chaos that spread from KwaZulu-Natal to the nearby Gauteng province, which contains South Africa’s economic and political capitals, Johannesburg and Pretoria, respectively.

    "South African government officials said this week the unrest was dying down and claimed to have more control over the situation. Police in KwaZulu-Natal and Gauteng were largely incapable of stopping most of the looting and arson as it happened due to the sheer scale of the anarchy. Looters and arsonists extensively damaged or destroyed '161 shopping malls, 11 warehouses, and eight factories' in KwaZulu-Natal during the week-long rampage, according to Reuters. South African government officials estimated the economic cost from the unrest at '20 billion rand ($1.37 billion) in KwaZulu-Natal alone,' the news agency reported on July 22, adding, 'The extent of the damage in Gauteng is still being collated.'"

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/riots-south-africa-have-left-people-hungry-it-s-poorest-n1274745

    "DURBAN, South Africa — South Africa was already beset by rampant poverty. The pandemic exacerbated the struggle for many of the country’s poorest. Now weeks of riots have left stores torched, shelves empty and many hungry.

    "President Cyril Ramaphosa has reassured the country that 'immediate food relief' was being distributed in the wake of deadly unrest that saw access to food disrupted after trucks, warehouses and shops were burned and pillaged.

    "But in towns around Durban, the hard-hit capital of the KwaZulu-Natal province, that relief wasn’t to be found."

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    https://andrewcarringtonhitchcock.c...-south-africa-that-are-happening-as-we-speak/

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  20. TMT Tactical

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    Are they going to blame Trump for this too?
     
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      They'll blame anyone save their own selves.
       
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  21. Old Geezer

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    "The Forgotten Poor White People Of South Africa"

    https://www.myggsa.co.za/the-forgotten-poor-white-people-of-south-africa/

    "There are poor white people in South Africa. They live in squatter camps, on the streets and in run-down suburbs. They are the product of a system that deliberately kept them poor and uneducated. Now, 25 years after the end of apartheid, they are still waiting for the promises of a better life to be fulfilled. The government has done little to help them, and many have given up hope. But some are fighting back, and slowly, things are starting to change.

    "Since apartheid’s end, there has been an increase in the number of poor white people living in squatter camps. Lukas Gouws, 29, lives in Coronation Park, a squatter camp. As a result of changes in hiring practices, many white South Africans have lost their jobs and homes. Ann le Roux and her friends live in Coronation Park in Krugersdorp, with her caravan and tent. During the Anglo-Boer War, British troops used this park as a concentration camp for Afrikaners. In addition to tents and caravans, there are over 400 whites in the area. In South Africa’s poorest settlement, residents claim to have been victims of reverse apartheid.

    "Despite the fact that black people have outnumbered white people in the richest 10% of the population for about 7 years, the gap between South Africa’s richest and poorest has not narrowed because the decline in racial inequality has primarily been driven by a surge in top Black incomes rather than increased wealth.

    "There is no definitive answer to this question as it is difficult to accurately measure poverty in South Africa. However, according to a study by the South African Institute of Race Relations, an estimated one in four white South Africans live below the poverty line. This is higher than the national average of one in three people living in poverty. The same study found that poverty among white South Africans is especially prevalent in rural areas, where nearly half of the population is estimated to live below the poverty line.

    "According to Stats SA’s annual population statistics, white South Africans have decreased by 91,000 over the past year. The emigration of white South Africans has resulted in a sharp decrease in the country’s white population. It is primarily due to the fact that most white people in England speak English in the province of Zulu-Natal, Gauteng, and in large settlements throughout the Western and Eastern Cape. Other white groups (such as Germans and Portuguese) are concentrated in Johannesburg and Cape Town. As a result, a large proportion of white South Africans (894,365) are immigrants from Africa, while a smaller proportion (49,854) are immigrants from Asia. According to Stats SA, approximately 91,000 white South Africans left the country during the same period.

    "The poor white problem in South Africa is a major issue that needs to be addressed. There are many poor whites in South Africa who are living in poverty and struggling to make ends meet. This problem needs to be addressed so that these people can have a better life and be able to provide for their families."
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  22. lonewolf

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    thats a problem for South Africa, for many years it was the other way around, you cant really blame the blacks for getting their own back.
     
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  23. Old Geezer

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    I can blame them for torturing and murdering white farmers.
     
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  24. lonewolf

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    same thing happened in Zimbabwe, blame the leadership and non enforcement of any laws.
     
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  25. Old Geezer

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    The situations (plural) in Africa are great stones crushing down upon the chest.

    Do I have answers? No.

    How many legion have attempted to bring peace and enlightenment to that continent?!

    My paltry mind is numbed / silenced before the task.

    What can I say? Nothing. Those who are far and away my betters have attempted to bring peace to that continent.

    They have failed.
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  26. lonewolf

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    Africa was always the Dark Continent and "the white mans grave", better to stay away.
    I have long thought it is time both Britain and America stayed out of other countries business and looked after our own people.
    Trade is one thing, it benefits both countries, but interfering in their internal politics or civil wars is something else.
     
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  27. Old Geezer

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    It appears that governmental egomaniacs are unable to understand the phrase "none of our business."

    I've quoted George Washington before, but again, Washington told this nation to stay out of the business of other nations. In the early years of the USA, we had to fight-off the north African Barbary Coast pirates. They were ripping-up our trade routes. At that time, the U.S. was spent-out due to the Revolutionary War, so we were in no position to pay-off the pirates as did England and France. We paid them for a while, but inevitably had to go in and kill them. There were two Barbary wars. We beat them / took Tripoli. Yet a decade or so later (after the war of 1812), these pirates rose up again, so we sent in two commodores and they went Old Testament on the Algerian Navy. They captured and sank vital ships which gutted their navy. Too, the pirates knew that we would go in and do it again.

    It was we who were getting attacked first. That forced our hand.

    If a nation is not forced into war, then each nation should mind their own business. If humans were rational and not greedy, then people could just get on with life. Should a bully nation pop up, then all nations would isolate, even attack, the bully.

    But then, no one has ever accused humans of being rational.

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  28. lonewolf

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    there is a political policy that I agree with, it went if some event does not affect" British business, British citizens or British territory" then we should mind our own business. its a pity the main parties dont apply this philosophy but then they are all globalists arent they.
     
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    "South Africa: 82 suspects arrested after a mass rape"

    https://freewestmedia.com/2022/07/31/south-africa-82-suspects-arrested-after-a-mass-rape/

    "Dozens of black men ambushed a film crew at an abandoned mine near Johannesburg on Friday. They raped eight models between the ages of 19 and 35. As they fled, the police shot dead two suspects and 82 other people were arrested.

    "After a mass rape of eight women, the police in South Africa arrested 82 suspects. Officials were investigating at least 32 rape cases, police in the northern province of Gauteng said on Saturday. Some of the victims were raped by up to ten men, said Police Minister Bheki Cele. The group of perpetrators also committed an armed robbery.

    "On Friday, heavily armed black perpetrators known as 'zama-zamas' attacked the film crew and extras at an abandoned site in Krugersdorp, near Johannesburg. The crew had been filming a music video at the disused mine. The eight women who were raped were all models between the ages of 19 and 35. According to the police, the attackers also stole wallets, mobile phones and jewelry and then fled the scene. Police officers shot dead two of the perpetrators as they fled.

    "Sexual assaults are common in South Africa with its approximately 60 million inhabitants, especially the tradition of 'Ukuthwala' a form of abduction that involves raping a girl or a young woman by a man and his friends or peers with the intention of compelling the girl or young woman’s family to agree into marriage. In fact, rape counselling centres (run mostly by concerned white women) were closed down because of political pressure. But when it involves foreigners, the issue becomes politically exploitable.

    "According to police statistics, 10 818 people were raped in the first three months of this year alone. However, police believe the number of unreported cases is much higher because most cases go unreported."

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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-africa-gang-rape-survivors-talk-to-cbs-news/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-south-africa-as-charges-dropped-in-gang-case

    https://theconversation.com/rape-is...-anc-government-keeps-missing-the-mark-188235
     
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  30. Old Geezer

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    Were I a white South African, especially were I a farmer, I wouldn't attempt to waste money on survival preparations. I would get out of there by any means necessary. There are relief agencies for white South Africans attempting to escape that place, but when you attempt to look them up online, you get blocked. This is especially true if you use the communist Google search engine.

    https://www.covenersleague.com/orga...es-relief-program-for-south-african-europeans

    https://www.safrpsa.org/



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    "Jewish teens in South Africa, where crime and Israel criticism are sky-high, see little future at home"


    https://www.jta.org/2024/01/05/global/jewish-teens-in-south-africa-see-little-future-at-home

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    When she was in sixth grade, Kiara Cohen decided she was going to leave South Africa.

    At a Shabbat gathering held by the youth organization Bnei Akiva in Kempton Park, Johannesburg, she was on the way to fill her water bottle when a few adults on the other side of the fence from her campgrounds told her they were going to assault and kill her and her friends because she was Jewish. The scared 12-year-old decided on the spot that she wanted to live somewhere where antisemitism wasn’t tolerated.

    Now 16, Cohen still has her marks set on leaving South Africa after university — a move that would make her typical of her country’s Jews. Since 1970, the number of Jews in South Africa, home to the continent’s largest Jewish population, fell by 60%, to 50,000, according to the Institute for Jewish Policy Research. Many of those who depart head to Israel, where anyone who is Jewish may immigrate. In 2021, a full 1% of Jewish South Africans moved to Israel — the highest aliyah rate in South Africa’s history.

    And that was before the current Israel-Hamas war, in which South African leaders have been taking an aggressive anti-Israel stance. The country has brought genocide charges against Israel in the International Court of Justice and threatened to prosecute South Africans who serve in the Israel Defense Forces. It has also welcomed a Hamas leader for an official visit since Hamas attacked Israel on Oct. 7.

    “The main antisemitism I feel that makes me want to leave this country is the government,” said Danni Hellman, 16, of Johannesburg. “They are anti-Israel and not exactly fond of Jews. I know every country in the world has its problems but when the hate comes from inside the people who are in power it is not exactly easy to want to stay.”

    JTA interviewed 20 Jewish high school students from Johannesburg about their future plans. Eighty percent said they are planning to leave South Africa. More than half of them, 55%, said they are leaving after they graduate from high school. Another quarter said they would head for the border after graduating from college.


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    "South African political leader calls for violence against White citizens at rally: 'Kill the Boer, the farmer' "


    https://www.foxnews.com/media/south...against-white-citizens-rally-kill-boer-farmer

    "South African political leader Julius Malema led racially violent chants at a massive rally on Saturday.

    "Malema, who is the leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters party, sang the genocidal anti-apartheid struggle song 'Kill the Boer, the farmer,' referring to the White descendants of Dutch settlers or 'Boers' in South Africa.

    "The Economic Freedom Fighters has emerged as one of the preeminent powers in South African politics after the end of the Apartheid regime. Malema was originally a youth leader in the African National Congress (ANC) which was famous for being led by South Africa’s first Black leader, Nelson Mandela. "
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