New Member Ukraine Update

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  1. arctic bill

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    • Ukraine's Interior Ministry has said Russia's "invasion has begun" with missile strikes on Kyiv. CNN reporters and witnesses in cities across Ukraine have also reported hearing explosions.
     
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    BBC news is now saying similar.
     
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  3. lonewolf

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    UK "Cobra" meeting started at 0730 this morning.
     
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    Does anyone know of the existents of any preppers in Ukraine ? You can be assured the people of that country if , unprepared for self-sufficiency certainly " today " wish they had been . Trying to barter their way to survival , dealing with other people in the same stew pot that is simmering will only go so for . Self -sufficiency , submission or fleeing across a boarder are the only viable options .
     
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  5. lonewolf

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    I dont know about preppers in Ukraine but this situation has been ongoing since 2014 so I would have thought some would have put back some kind of stockpile no matter how small.
     
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  6. lonewolf

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    the invasion of Ukraine has now started in earnest, several cities and many military installations have been bombed, many dead.
     
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  7. TexDanm

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    This could get VERY ugly. I'm glad that my kids are to old and my grandkids are too young to be draft bait just incase.
     
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  8. Old Geezer

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    Since the U.S. is without a Commander in Chief, Putin is doing what he has wanted to do for years. During the Obama "administration", Putin took the Crimean Peninsula. When there is no push-back, the bullies come out to "play."

    Putin is using the excuse of the Russian-identifying peoples of the two disputed regions in Ukraine as his reason to attack.

    Russia will also neutralize as much of the Ukrainian military as suits them. They aren't going to protract the conflict. They are going to castrate the Ukraine to get it done and over with.

    Some links in interest:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...tk-and-luhansk-and-what-does-putin-want-there

    https://russiamil.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/map-of-russian-and-ukrainian-military-forces/

    https://russiamil.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/3b01b-2009voiskauairu.jpg?w=619&zoom=2

    https://russiamil.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/c5abd-ukrainaforces2014.png?w=619&zoom=2

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    Military forces before 2014 / the way things were before the current war situation:

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  9. lonewolf

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    at the moment Ukranians are resisting the invasion as best they can, I dont think this will be so quick and easy as Putin thought, not that he cares how many Russian mothers son's come home in body bags, they are just cannon fodder.
     
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    Biden and NATO are Deep State..Obama is Deep State to this day...Putin is not deep state..

    No one on this side of events wants us to know this....nor even think this way about what is going on.


    The Deep State and Western Nations under Deep State Umbrella want another source of Natural Gas that they control....

    They lost the planned route of Natural Gas Pipeline through the middle East and through Russian Ally Syria...now NATO Deep State nations are making a move to Bring the Ukraine into NATO to gain control over the Natural Gas....to the West....

    The Ukraine has also been heavily involved in Money Laundering for Deep State operations in deals set up when Biden was Vice President and Hunter Biden was arranging those deals and in this came to the attention of Ukrainian Authorities...their Attorney General...and Biden Blackmailed them by refusing to release funds to the Ukraine unless they fired this Government Attorney investigating Hunter Biden. And the Ukrainian government did fire this Attorney General investigating Hunter Biden.


    The news media does not want to go here..while they do the touchy feely news over this business in the Ukraine,,,,Be Warned of our News Media including Fox News.

    The news media here in the West is shilling for our Deep State Government and NATO.

    Be warned these Ishmaelites...running their programs again....while they are once again playing GFW Hegel...

    Good Cop/Bad Cop.

    And when they get their way....

    "The State is god"


    My non Ishmaelite.02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  11. Old Geezer

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    "Russia says Finland, Sweden could face consequences if countries move to join NATO"

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-finland-sweden-nato

    "A Russian official on Friday issued a warning to Finland and Sweden should both nations intend to join NATO, saying such moves would have 'serious military-political repercussions.'

    "'Finland and Sweden should not base their security on damaging the security of other countries and their accession to NATO can have detrimental consequences and face some military and political consequences,' she said in a video clip.

    "NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said Thursday that the alliance would defend its member states should Moscow launch an attack.

    "On Friday, he said NATO deployed its Response Force for collective security after Russian President Vladimir Putin threatened the alliance by telling it to withdraw forces from member nations or face consequences.

    "'This goes far beyond Ukraine,' Stoltenberg said. 'This is about how Russia is actually challenging, contesting core values for our security. Then warning that NATO should withdraw all forces and infrastructure from almost half of our members.'

    "NATO has not engaged in the conflict and has not sent any troops to help defend Ukraine. On Thursday, President Biden said the United States could get involved should Russian forces move into NATO countries. "

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    Biden's wisdom :rolleyes::confused:o_O :

    "Russian invasion: Biden in 2019 said 'imagine what can happen in Ukraine' under Trump"

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russian-invasion-biden-2019-imagine-ukraine-trump

    "President Biden’s previous comments on what could 'happen in Ukraine' under former President Trump are resurfacing amid the ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    "Back in 2019, then-candidate Biden took a dig at Trump while speaking at the Democratic National Committee (DNC) Women’s Leadership Forum Conference, warning the audience against voting to re-elect Trump by suggesting a hypothetical fall of Ukraine.

    "'It’s going to take a hell of a lot of work to make up for all the damage he’s done internationally and nationally,' Biden said. 'His network of thugs and co-conspirators are going to continue to try to undermine our democracy in the meantime.'

    "'Imagine what he can do in another year,' Biden continued. 'Imagine what can happen to Ukraine.'"

    :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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  12. poltiregist

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  13. lonewolf

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    2 ships? probably just some trigger happy Ruskies or maybe they just cant tell the difference between the flags of other countries.
     
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  14. Old Geezer

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    "The Netherlands sends Ukraine 50 anti-tank weapons, 200 anti-aircraft missiles and 100 sniper rifles"

    https://today.i-n24.com/News/38741.html

    "Countries sending arms and aid to Ukraine"

    https://arynews.tv/countries-sending-arms-and-aid-to-ukraine/

    "Czech Republic

    "Prague said Saturday it is sending 4,000 mortars “in the next few hours” as well as an arsenal of 30,000 pistols, 7,000 assault rifles, 3,000 machine guns as well as scores of sniper rifles and a million bullets.

    "The Czechs had already promised Kyiv 4,000 mortars worth 1.5 million euros ($1.6 million) which have yet to be delivered.

    "Belgium

    "Belgium says it will supply Ukraine with 3,000 more automatic rifles and 200 anti-tank weapons, as well as 3,800 tons of fuel."
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    I wish that these items had already been sent there.

    The Ukrainians also need a whole lot of landmines and other sabotage materials. For instance, should the Ukrainians have to pull back, they need to sabotage the dickens out of those areas they are leaving. Frag monsters on delay timers should be all over the places where the Russians might occupy.

    One needs to kill the morale of your enemy. One must do deeply sick things to aggressors. I hate bullies to the depth of my being. When a kid, it felt absolutely wonderful to make bullies cry. To me, revenge is golden. Harming evil people is orgasmically wonderful. Hearing worthless people scream out to God to save them is a euphoric moment. My hatred knows no depths.
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  15. watcherchris

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    by Olde Geezer....



    Well...this tells one who are the deep state player nations!!!

    The question now is how deep are the on the hook???
    How deep does the Deep State own and run them.???


    How long before we are deeper and deeper in it ...and how long before we bleed big time as in past Deep State Wars.??


    What were some of the Occult writers saying many many years back in their writings about three World Wars????


    My non Ishmaelite .02,

    Watcherchris
     
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  16. poltiregist

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    Reported by news reporter in Poland . Young men boarding a train enroute to Ukraine to join the fight . Also on the train is military supplies . This apparently is customary each time the train goes into Ukraine .
     
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  17. Old Geezer

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    Real possibility of Putin hitting Western nations, beginning with cyber attacks:

    "'Escalate to de-escalate': Experts say Putin's strategy may be to get more aggressive in war on Ukraine"

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russia-putin-escalate-war

    Quotes from the above link are in the color Blue:

    As Russia's war on Ukraine continues, some experts warn Russia might escalate the conflict further either in Ukraine or against the western nations supporting it, with the goal of forcing those nations to capitulate to its demands.

    This strategy, former Defense Intelligence Agency officer Rebekah Koffler told Fox News, is called "escalate to de-escalate." It has roots in Russia's planning for a war against the United States, Koffler said, but similar thinking is now standard throughout Russia's military planning.

    During a theoretical war with the U.S., Koffler said, Russia would strike first by "popping a low yield tactical nuke thinking that it's going to be such a psychological shock that the conflict would end."

    In the context of the Ukraine war, that might mean that Russia would move to flatten cities like Kyiv with traditional weapons as long as Ukrainians continue to resist their invasion, according to Koffler.

    Koffler also said Putin's increase in Russia's nuclear threat level may have been part of a strategy to intimidate Ukraine's western allies, and that Russia may a wage cyber-warfare campaign against the West.

    All of this would be with the purpose of breaking the wills of Ukraine and the West until they capitulate to Russian demands and de-escalate.

    "They believe that the pressure on our population will cause the Biden administration to back out and put pressure on Zelensky and say, ‘You need to give up.’ He believes that the American people have a low threshold of tolerance for inconveniences, especially for something like Ukraine," Koffler said.

    "That's what the term means," she said. "He escalates, we de-escalate."

    Former senior Pentagon official James Anderson told Fox News he believes there is a real "potential for escalation" in the Ukraine war, "either by design … or by accident." Anderson said that is very possible in cyberspace.

    "There is a real danger of escalation. ... Given what he's already done invading a sovereign nation, I think this is well within the realm of possibility," Anderson said. "The potential for Russian cyberattacks against the United States and its allies creates kind of an added level of uncertainty in this crisis."
     
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  18. Old Geezer

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    Some more articles I found interesting today:

    https://www.sofmag.com/a-leader-is-on-the-world-stage/

    "President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy,is fearless, fighting for his people, mobilizing his allies yet praying for a Cease Fire.

    "When offered to evacuate by U.S, he said Send me Ammo, I don’t need a ride."

    https://www.sofmag.com/ukraines-fig...-with-war-fighting-experience-to-be-released/

    "Prosecutor General clarified how Ukraine releases prisoners with military experience to fight against Russia Is Ukrainian TV

    "Simply saying, the population should not worry about crime flooding the streets. And for those who are serving their sentences, hope for an “open day” too.

    "Each of the dismissed had significant combat experience in the Donbas zone in 2014-2015. All of them are ardent opponents of the “Russian world”, and one of them is the author of a well-known song by Ukrainian fans about the main aggressor Putin. All risks are individually assessed and control mechanisms are identified.

    "almost 100 000 citizens were mobilized in 2 days, half of them are territory defense reservists. However, defending Ukraine is not only a duty but also a right. And when there is a question about the preservation of statehood and the future of Ukraine, we believe that those who stumbled but want to help protect their native land, deserve this chance. In addition, we are convinced that the main task of the penitentiary system is not punishment, but correction.

    "At the same time, the Ukrainian army needs material support. We could not stand aside when the state was in danger. Prosecutors at all levels throughout the country decide to lift arrests and transfer equipment and weapons, as well as fuel seized during the investigation of criminal proceedings, to the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard. More than 10,000 tons of fuel, armored vehicles, and weapons have already been delivered.

    For the Entire release
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    Fog of war


    https://www.janes.com/defence-news/...rces-face-recognition-and-tracking-challenges
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  19. lonewolf

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    I suspect that if Kiev does not fall soon Putin will order a "scorched earth" policy, flatten every building and leave the country a wasteland and kill every person they can find-men, women and children, Putin dosent care how many people are killed, he dosent care about human life.
     
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  21. lonewolf

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    Ukrainian or Russian?
     
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  22. poltiregist

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    A video worth watching , Democrats in the United States certainly will not like this . Under the regime that has now taken control of the United States , I don't hold much confidence that these corrupt activities will be prosecuted . The U.S. has been swallowed by corruption .
     
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  23. Old Geezer

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    Russian soldiers often are green, don't have any interest in fighting, are deprived of fuel for their heavy equipment, and are poorly fed. All of this leads to next to zero loyalty. The youngsters just want to get out of there. There's also the little matter of getting rocketed.

    "Russian Forces Abandoning Their Vehicles and Surrendering, Videos Show"

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-kyiv-army-tanks-abandoned-1683584

    Footage shared on social media shows military vehicles apparently abandoned by Russian soldiers, some of whom are seen surrendering to Ukrainian forces.

    Images tweeted by open-source intelligence monitor, OSINT Defender and the Ukraine Information Army show destroyed equipment they say belongs to the Russian army.

    OSINT Defender tweeted that Russian forces were reported to have abandoned an outpost in the Sumy Region and fled into the woods during the night, leaving military vehicles behind.

    Accompanying other images of abandoned vehicles in the North Poltova region, the Ukraine Information Army said that "the Russians continue to dump equipment and run away."

    Telegram also showed pictures of soldiers, some with their hands on their heads, marching down a road. "Russian POWs near Kharkiv, with what appear to be SSh-60 steel helmets," OSINT Technical tweeted in sharing the clip.

    OSINT Defender said of the same clip that the "around 20 POWS" were "most likely heading towards additional transportation" to be taken to internment camps "somewhere in the west of the country."

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    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17819...-abandoned-military-equipment-vladimir-putin/

    "VLADIMIR Putin's demoralised and disillusioned troops are fleeing the war in Ukraine and surrendering without a fight, reports claim.

    "As Russia's forces run out of food and fuel, some have resorted to looting, while others are even reportedly sabotaging their own military equipment in a bid to get out of the war.

    "Now, footage is emerging of captured Russian soldiers crying as they claim they had no idea what to expect in Ukraine.

    "Intercepted radio messages indicate troops are disobeying orders from Moscow to shell Ukrainian towns, and complaining about running out of food and fuel."
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    Here's a list of links I got when doing a web search:

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=russian+troops+abandoning+&t=newext&atb=v1-1&ia=web

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  24. poltiregist

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    To get into the mindset of Russians , I will pass on this . A few days ago my daughter received a phone call from a Russian citizen . They had an interpreter .My daughter said the Russian lady was very polite and they ended the phone call with the Russian saying " God Bless you " . Most Russians are also appalled at this unjust war .
     
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  25. lonewolf

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    there was a bit online saying that some Russian troops are giving up and walking home, a lot of them look like 13 year old kids.
     
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    Reported by one news person on television today , Private oil importers in the United States are refusing to import oil from Russia . This private oil embargo started about a week ago . --- Also a bill is up to outlaw any oil being imported from Russia to the United States . Even Nancy Pelosi claimed to support the bill . With enough votes for this bill " even Joe Biden will not be able to veto it " . Those that think skyrocketing prices is bad ain't seen nothing yet .
     
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  28. poltiregist

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    A harrowing thought " especially for U.S. Citizens , If this war escalates enough there may not be a political election next November and perhaps not never . We may be stuck under a band of tyrannical dictators even if Joe is eventually carted off to the old folks home . ---Really thinking about it other countries might suffer a similar fate .
     
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  29. poltiregist

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    Have you guys noticed the increased chatter today about sending in military from other countries to engage Russia in combat ? A few days ago I posted that I gave the potential of a nuclear conflict to be about 20 % . Well I am now going to revise my estimate of that possibility to 50 % .
     
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  30. Old Geezer

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    Cancelling the elections would cause the individual states to secede from this invalid administration. People would stop paying their federal income taxes and dare any tax collector to come to their door or place of business. EVRYBODY would start going armed, legally or illegally. MOST sheriff departments would look the other way because the deputies are blood kin of the people "just saying, NO!"

    Listen, the deep state does NOT have the military ability to attack Heartland America. Our military forces are manned by people whose home states are within Heartland America. You can't fly aircraft that have no one to service them, fuel them, load them with ammunition.
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    Carrying daily my .357 Magnum GP 100 of late....speed loarders.....particularly as prices steadily increase.

    Have also loaded up the tube on my .357 Magnum lever gun I carry daily in my vehicle.

    Those spidey sense operating in the back of my mind....

    My truck has an SKS in it with spare rounds....wherein also my daily carry piece is that same GP100.

    On occasion I switch out my GP 100 with a 1911 and spares.


    I too note that many states are beginning to question the sanity of the Central Government.

    I am also concerned about antics being planned for the trucker's convoy via the infiltration route...as so obviously happened on January 6....and this as a pretext to further clamp down on our Liberties....ceding them to more government. They too will be labeled Domestic Terrorists...in predictability. Manufacturing bad guys...as did Trudeau in Canada...for political lucre.

    Those of us in the know...call this Whoredom. Political/Social Whoredom for political/social lucre. Not the business of the American People....but social /Political whoredom.


    Ishmaelies run wild..

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      Oh, I'm also keeping some toys and candy for barter. Sure looks like the world is getting ready to go.
       
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      Idiot standing in front of glass windows waiting for incoming rocket. SIASD!
       
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    A good point TMT Tatical . I am a survivor of more incoming fire than I even tried to keep count of . The incoming was rockets but not as large as what is seen on Old Geezer's link . The closest impact was about 10 feet from me but I survived by diving behind some sand bags when I heard its tell-tale incoming sound . Everything from that impact was destroyed on the other side of the sand bags that I was behind .The Battalion Colonel and Company Captain had made me a promise that if I would leave the infantry patrol unit and join their company " Head Quarters ", they would see to it that I didn't have to tote a pack or sleep in the rain . They kept that promise and provided me a shack to sleep in that I shared with the Battalion scrounger . The scrounger and I had a system . Whenever we heard incoming , I dove " not climbed " from the top bunk to behind a row of sand bags . The scrounger then followed . I remember one night " I suppose I had actually went to sleep " I was a second or two slower than normal and the scrounger was getting frantic because he was afraid to go for the sand bags because he was afraid I would dive on top of him . --- Survival mode actually went deeper than that . Whenever I was up and about , I was constantly surveying my surroundings for a place to dive in case I heard the in-coming whistle . After I walked by one potential cover I was sizing up the next potential cover . ---Diving for cover was so ingrained in me that this dive for cover reaction would be triggered by a large bang for years after I left the war zone .
     
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    1. Old Geezer
      What some people would call PTSD is in fact da##ed-good survival reflexes. God only knows how many lives have been saved by the "hit the dirt!" command. Now, that's coming true in Amerika's urban areas where open drug warfare and the armed robberies of innocents is becoming the order of the day.
      I have an industrial story (too long to tell) wherein three guys jumped to safety and spared themselves being barbecued. One guy got out, but the rubber soles on his shoes had melted.
       
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    What with Amerika having gone soft and Europe having gone politically correct, it's not just Putin going full-bore bully. Goofy Un has become even more Un-hinged. His rockets psychologically help him with certain anatomical inadequacies from which he suffers. You gotta be any Freudian to figure this thing out (was that another Freudian-slip?).

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...ballistic-missile-year-while-all-eyes-ukraine

    "With the entire world's attention focused on Russia and Putin amid the ongoing war in Ukraine, now in the middle of its second week, it seems Kim Jong Un thought it was the perfect time to launch some rockets.

    "On Saturday North Korea fired a ballistic missile into the sea while expanding weapons testing, according to The Associated Press. "The launch was detected by the South Korean military, and the country's Joint Chiefs of Staff said that the missile flew about 270 kilometers (168 miles) at a maximum altitude of 560 kilometers (348 miles) and landed in the sea between Korea and Japan," the report detailed."
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    2nd ceasefire has been violated (same as the first one) Russian Troops shelling and killing civilians as they tried to evacuate.
     
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    "‘It Is Horrendous’: Russia Prepares Vacuum Bombs to Blitz Ukraine"

    https://dnyuz.com/2022/03/01/it-is-horrendous-russia-prepares-vacuum-bombs-to-blitz-ukraine/

    "Russia has deployed launching systems capable of sending deadly thermobaric rockets at Ukrainian targets, a senior U.S. defense official told reporters on Tuesday, a possible signal that the Kremlin is readying more terrifying weapons in order to strike fear into the population after logistical hurdles have hampered the early stages of the military campaign.

    "The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive military topic, would not confirm where Russia had placed the thermobaric launchers. And the Defense Department had not confirmed that Russia had put in place or used any thermobaric munitions as of Tuesday, according to the official. But Kyiv and observers on the ground have gone further: Ukraine’s ambassador to the United States and rights groups said on Monday that Russia had already used the weapon.

    "Also known as vacuum bombs,' thermobaric munitions create a high-temperature reaction by sucking in oxygen from the surrounding area, producing a longer blast wave than conventional bombs. Russia is likely to employ the weapons to terrorize the Ukrainian army and civilian resistance, experts told Foreign Policy, in a possible effort to overcome logistical snags that have held back the military advance toward major cities such as Kharkiv and Kyiv."

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weapon

    "A thermobaric weapon, also called an aerosol bomb and a fuel air explosive (FAE),[1] is a type of explosive that uses oxygen from the surrounding air to generate a high-temperature explosion. The fuel–air explosive is one of the best-known types of thermobaric weapons.

    "While most conventional explosives consist of a fueloxidizer premix such as black powder, which contains 25% fuel and 75% oxidizer, or a decomposition-type explosive such as RDX, thermobaric weapons are almost 100% fuel and as a result are significantly more energetic than conventional condensed explosives of equal weight.[2] Despite the fact their reliance on atmospheric oxygen makes them unsuitable for use under water, at high altitude, and in adverse weather, they are, however, considerably more destructive when used against field fortifications such as foxholes, tunnels, bunkers, and caves.[citation needed]

    "The initial explosive charge detonates as it hits its target, opening the container and dispersing the fuel mixture as a cloud.[3] The typical blast wave of a thermobaric weapon lasts significantly longer than that of a conventional condensed explosive"

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  38. Old Geezer

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    Has anyone else heard anything about Western nations providing Ukraine with Stinger missiles? I heard a blurb, but it was too short to catch.

    Ding ding ding ding ding! Found something.

    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-sending-stinger-missiles-ukraine-170739877.html

    I sure don't wish for us to wade into this war, however I LOVE watching bullies get seriously hurt. I love hearing about some lady putting a bullet into an aggressor. Makes my day. MANY times over the past half-century-plus, I've read about grandmothers shooting home-invaders. One grandma (great-grandma?) who nuked a puke with a .22 or .32 revolver. The puke was found hanging half-in and half-out a window he'd smashed. :D:D:D:D

    Communist New Network has this article:

    https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-new...s-03-02-22/h_64b1f11f9436c08cec6f31108fe6463f

    "... hundreds of stingers ..."

    https://www.republicworld.com/world...n-troops-inch-closer-to-kyiv-articleshow.html

    I love arming those who have been targeted by trash humans. Putin has lost his judgement. I'm rather certain that Russia will win; however, I want Russia to pay an unaffordable price. I want them to dig at their own eyes with their fingernails. If you can kick a bully in the stomach so hard that you've put his guts into his bag, that's a good thing.
     
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      "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee." --Muhammad Ali
       
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  39. arctic bill

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    we did it why not you ?
    Canada has announced late Feb. 28 a ban on the import of Russian oil, making it the first G7 nation to impose an embargo. I see this war as on two fronts, one militarily and the other on social media. the military war is going badly i just heard the a air strike too out a russian 80 vehicle convoy , the other was is social media and this the Russians have lost so badly .
     
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  40. lonewolf

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    Well Trudeaux had to do something to stop his approval rates hitting the floor after the appalling way he treated the truckers and their supporters.
     
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  41. arctic bill

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    actually 2/3 of Canadians did not support the truckers occupation of Ottawa. the press made it seem like everyone was for the truckers, this was false . i have family in Ottawa and the children could not sleep at night due to trucker honking their horn all night long. Then they started to urinate on the war memorial to the point they had to put up barricades around the monument . the trucker went in to Rideau hall with out masks as required by Canadian law inside public places
    and confronted people and store owners for wearing masks to the point they had to shut down the mall for three weeks. yes trudeau did not handle it well he should have come down harder much earlier ,
     
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  42. watcherchris

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    Be Very Very careful about what you believe on both sides of this Ukrainian Business....

    There is Big Time BS going on ....on both sides of the reporting on this war.

    This war is not what most Americans think is going on here....and be very very careful whom or what you think is a bully here..


    I am more concerned about both Russia and China dropping the US dollar as a reserve currency and going to their own gold backed currency...

    This would spell disaster for the US dollar...and our phony Federal Reserve system.and the news is talking very very little about this while drugging us on touchy feely reporting on the Ukraine....drugging us on good cop/bad cop..reporting.


    Be Warned the Ishmaelites,
    Watcherchris
     
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  43. Old Geezer

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    Putin has gone full-bore bully. He should have his knees broken backwards and kerosene poured on him. Somebody could then just "flick their Bic".

    I grieve for the Ukrainian people. I'm soooooooooo glad that we've sent Stinger missiles to their resistance army.

    Having said that, we can't be getting into that conflagration with our own troops. The sad reality is that Putin is going to win. Inevitably, Putin is just going to win. And, that will be his downfall.

    China is going to annihilate Taiwan and occupy that which is left. We can arm the Taiwanese to the hilt, but we can't start a world war by using our own forces in a region on that side of the planet.

    This is why I am so in favor of arming potential victims.

    The cause of aggression is the ready-availability of victims.

    If there are no victims, it means that bullies will just have to fantasize about their rape intentions. My delight is watching videos of armed robbers getting shot dead (I'm running out of new videos to watch, shucks!). Aggressors getting killed is pure ambrosia. If they writhe a bit before going ambient temp, that is even better. If I could get a post-retirement part-time job as an executioner, that would be a wonderful way to spend the last days of my life.
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  44. poltiregist

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    I take a different approach to this Russian aggression . I will play arm chair commander in chief and would not be so afraid of a nuclear war . I would suggest sending troops to Russia's soil and open up another military front as we did in World War 2 . The second front should be a long ways from Ukraine in order to divert their military away from that assault . Russia has left itself vulnerable with nearly all its military concentrated at Ukraine . If Putin wants to play with his Nukes so be it . Nato combined could crush Russia . Sure Russia would destroy most of the planets population but Russia would never be a problem again . My main focus would be to go after Putin himself not the people that have found themselves living under the rule of a mad man .-- One bomb taking out Putin could very well end the war .
     
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  45. lonewolf

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    "Russia will never be a problem again" yes true, but the planet would be a burnt out shell by the time it was all over.
    nothing would ever grow or live here again, planet Earth would just be another dead planet in space, and there are enough of them already.
    its fine being gung-ho but there is more than just USA vs Russia at stake.
     
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  46. watcherchris

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    Putin is not Deep State....Trump was not Deep State and most of leadership here in the USA Hated him.

    There are other players out there who are not Deep State and the world hates them too...because most of the world is Deep State and under Deep State Control

    The UN is Deep State and so too is NATO.

    If we are not careful we are going to see our people again involved in another quagmire...and paying ...paying paying forever..even in our finest blood once again.

    I do not trust what our media is saying because I know that most of our Media is Deep State...including the famous and vaunted Fox News. There are certain items they too will not touch.

    Most of our media is a shill/political whore for the Deep State leaders put into office to carry out Deep State needs as desired and or required...not the will of the American people.

    Here...think this one through while all this Ukraine is flooding the news to the exclusion of almost everyting else..

    Merkley: 'We Should Have a Climate Emergency' and Need to 'Have the World Transition' to Green Energy to Undercut Russia (breitbart.com)


    Be Warned of the coming/planned Ishmaelite herding..


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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    Hmmmmmm....thinking hard on this one lonewolf.......trying to get my thoughts together .....and it is not what we are being told by most of the phony MSM.

    Some of us are aware of certain aspects of what is happening out here...not understood by most Americans or others for that matter.

    This starting with the understanding that we here in America ...now have a Non Representative Government ...not a Representative Government....the Veil is slipping ...big time..and people are beginning to see it...just as they are catching onto the Phony MSM.

    Agree..lonewolf...there is more than the USA and Russia at stake here....much much more..
    On that you are in the X ring...the Bullseye.


    I am not so sure the Biden Administration has the nuclear launch codes....by design ..by a plan from long ago ...because of what happened during the Obama Administration...and not known by most Americans...


    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  48. Old Geezer

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    Civil War II

    "So it goes." -- Kurt
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  49. TexDanm

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    We elected a wimp and the Russians know it. Hell I'm not sure he would respond if the Russians invaded Florida!! As long as they didn't mess with his home state or come to Washington everything would be good.
     
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  50. lonewolf

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    Trump was many things but he was no wimp, I dont believe this war would have started had Trump still been in the WH.
     
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