The "just In Time" Food System Has Collapsed.

The article is a typical Daily Mail exaggeration. It has its problems, there is no doubt about it, but it is nowhere near collapse.

The issue with "just in time" systems is that the slightest hiccup causes problems. Years back "just in time" was brought in for a national company I worked for. It soon became known as "just too f****** late". Even road delays could cause job failures.

The situation is, of course, more serious when it is the food chain that is affected but, nowadays, with most homes having freezers it is unlikely to cause hunger, just a reduction in the variety of available foodstuffs.
Oone thing to be mindful of is something a lorry driver told me only a couple of days ago - more money is made out of moving consumer goods than food and, now that the country has gone back to work, more consumer goods is being purchased again.

 

A good read Lonewolf . I think most of our members are savy enough to already realize the supply chain is crashing . I made a rare appearance at a WalMart a few days ago and took the opportunity to stroll around to look at empty shelves . Many shelves were 100% empty . In particular noticeable was the paper product isle , that was about 40% completely bare . Only higher priced paper towels and toliet paper remained . -- As the world leaders dance to the strings their master pulls and continues to try to force people into taking the covid vaccine we will see the supply chain further disintegrate . As we all witness , the leaders will blame the world collapse on Covid when in reality the collapse is caused by the communist grip over the people shuting down businesses , restricting travel . and the insistence that every one needs to get the covid vaccine into their blood stream . --- The collapsing supply chain that we can now see by simply strolling around a store is only the beginning of the collapse . I expect it to get much worse . Even if every person on the planet submitted to the unknown " Emperor " the collapse will not stop , the avalanche is coming .---- I agree with the link . This time the descent of the supply chain is going on a one way trip that will never recover . Communism is simply a government system that has always failed for the average citizen .

 

I agree with your wife. There is still food there just less selection, poorer quality fresh fruit and veggies, smaller packages with higher prices. Still lots of gaps on those shelves.

 

I suspect the lessening food supply will escalate creating " of a sort " a bidding war on what food is available . Those with the financial resources may have food on their table where as those with a restricted budget may find their table with less desirable food on it . This happened when Venezuela began its descent , to the point they were setting at the table looking at the family pet cooked and prepared for consumption on the table .

 

One supermarket, Tesco , is refusing to pay proper prices. I work in the food industry, and supermarkets are bast@Ed’s for paying proper money to suppliers.

oh yes, Heinz are refusing to supply THEM. Not the other way round.

 

When people refuse to pay the price it likely means the food chain has reached the maximum price people are willing to pay and are going to fall to a lower eating standard for their survival . For instance in my stash is whole grain livestock corn that I am prepared to grind up boil and eat if , the price at the grocery store is simply to costly . Even if they do have the money " many don't " people will at some point pivot and refuse to pay a ridicules price . That is something that could indeed spread to other food outlets .

 

Apparently Heinz have made it public because the supermarkets screw suppliers. They are bringing the ‘system’ into the public eye.

 

It is an interesting scenario, and watching ti play out might give a glimpse into future food supply issues.

 

I will not give a reference as I know from experience it will be deemed from a bad source and can't be true . I noticed on this forum not any mention of what has happened to the food supply since 40% of the rice got taken off the global market as of last Thursday .. Also I would suggest looking into the scarce / or non-existent flour and cornmeal on store shelves .

 

I have not seen any shortages of rice or flour here - I will look closely to see.

 

We have put back stacks of rice and dried beans. Stacking all that up against one wall of our bedroom ... plus top shelves of closets. We've also put back bouillon cubes and salt as flavoring. Slice up some Spam, throw that in, and you have a meal that will keep you alive. We also put back soy sauce as another flavoring.

Fortunately or unfortunately, the surrounding forests have WAY TOO MUCH dead trees due to winter ice storms. I have spare chains for my newest chain saw. I fear forest fires if this dead stuff isn't cut out. Perfect fire wood.

Have put back gas in back shed. Laced that with petrol preservative. Have ceiling fire retardant / extinguishers in that shed.

 

Just checked the online Tesco site and all the usual Heinz products are there but expensive

1 Can Heinz Baked Beans £1.40 Tesco Beans £0.50
Heinz mayo £2.50 Tesco £1.40
Heinz ketchup £3.40 Tesco £1.00
Spaghetti £2.00 Tesco £1.00
Macaroni Cheese (canned) £2.00 Tesco £1.00
Tomato soup £1.70 Tesco £0.75

The quality of own label food has really improved these last few years and Heinz should bear that in mind. Brand loyalty is fast vanishing because people are either broke or refuse to pay through the nose for food (possibly both).

No shortage of flour at the moment but there will be after Putin messing about with the supply chain.

Spanish supermarkets big and small carry far far more canned goods than the UK and I'm slowly adding cans and dry goods to my stock here.

 

Stuck at home just now (knee injury) and this bloody thread has been on my mind all day lol.

Spain is a cheap place to live if your a chain smoking alcoholic, overall food prices (apart from local grown produce) is more expensive than the UK.

Just opened a bottle of Wild Turkey (medicinal purposes ) €15/$16 a bottle which is way cheaper than the UK

 

In addition to dried rice and beans, we've also put back pasta in sealed jars plus oxygen absorber packs. We put back spices and bouillon cubes. One year I grew WAY too many peppers; bags and bags ... overkill writ large. Still have those. We put them through a food dehydrator first.

I buy overproof liquor, then cut it myself with the water I choose. This saves money. Also, high proof liquor coming out of the barrel has fabulous flavor.

I have found some inexpensive Scotch whiskies that are full of flavor. Speyburn is a great buy. Are there better, sure, but there's something about Speyburn. Maybe it's their water source, the river is right there. People go there to fish, clean water. I like the Islay Scotch; Caol Ila 16yr is a fave; Bowmore 15yr; most Islay lovers go for Laphroaig (my eldest son loves it), but I favor Lagavulin 16yr.

I like mezcal, but the pricing has gone through the roof ... at least for the decent ones. I cheat. I take a good tequila mix-in some smokey flavor / maybe use some good mezcal, then place a splash of St-Germain into the fifth for the background floral note. Sometimes I get my formula right and have something a lot better than plain tequila. I love tequila. Certain brands of Japanese saki reminds me a bit of tequila.

And I have my favorite moonshines.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/india-rice-ban-1.6916915 --- I have waited for days for someone to pick up on what is un-folding as I am reluctant to post anything on here , but finally decided to step out on a limb and do so .

 

There are piles more confirmation sources if anyone wants to claim , everything is fine .

 

The brits who end up in a brit bar at 10:00 for a full English fryup washed down with beer tend to be the ones who retired out there and have no hobbies/interests in life...sad way to live really.

"we have seen the sheeple panicking when the covid lockdowns were announced, any store of food is time limited, so even if they store it to the gunnels it still wont last forever.
the only answer is to grow your own. alter your diet to what can be grown in your country and location. imported food wont be available after TSHTF."

I agree. I still think of myself as a junior gardener but one thing I've learned is do your research, listen to people who are experienced, plan well in advance and growing food is simple if you have the space and the time.

I'm getting what I need for canning, it ok growing stuff if you can safely store it for long term use. I've frozen about 20kg of determinate cherry tomatoes and I'll end up with a glut of indeterminate toms shortly, I'm going to make pasatta.

Ordered this last night from Amazon Spain, it will be here on Saturday €185.00 plus lifting tongs and 48 Mason jars (which are bloody expensive here)...wish me luck

 

The cherry toms are a determinate Veranda Red, superb cherry toms and will grow happily in a 2l pot but the mistake I made was starting the seeds off at the same time instead of planting seeds every two to three week apart so what happened is they all came to fruit at the same time hence a 'glut'...won't let that happen again. Longer growing period here so I'll start a fresh batch of seeds off in a couple of weeks for a late crop. I've also got beefsteak, plum and standard 'salad' toms growing.

I was recommended Beit Alpha cucumbers, they self pollinate and produce smooth thin skin fruit about 6"-8" long and they are doing really well; I'm going to pick them young and pickle a lot.

I enjoy a good full English but to be honest I eat them maybe three or four times a year, I'm a good boy these days and go with oats/yogurt and fruit for breakfast mostly. Big temptation comes when offshore because the food is very very very good and there's lots of it.

 

I can assure you there is no panic buying where I am. All the shelves in the stores are full.

Years ago I worked for a company that adopted "Just In Time", they used the acronym "JIT" it rapidly became known throughout the business as "JTFL" - I'm sure you can work that acronym out

 

I was working Quality Control Engineering in an American/International electronics company when "Just in Time" arrived. During my almost 2 decades there, a warehouse in the Philippines burned-down. This one event nearly paralyzed us and other electronics industries. This was almost 40 years ago. Seems like yesterday.

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i am a canadian and recently went to the usa. i went in to a grocery store to buy some stuff. I buy all the groceries at home and i am very aware of the prices in canada, i was shocked at the prices, normally the prices in the states is 2/3 of canadian prices but this time the prices were 1/3 more that in canada. also consider that the canadian dollar is 75% of the usa dollar.
for example chicken legs in canada is 99 cent to $1.29 for legs but in usa it was $1.99 on special .
cucumbers in canada 2 for $1.oo usa 2 for three dollars
lettuce 99 cent. vs $1.39
this is what was at price chopper.

 

Thing is that the biden regime is at war against middle class Americans and at war against the American dollar.

The biden regime also hates self-sufficiency, thus its war on agriculture. All must be dependent on god government.

The socialists in Wash. D.C. better watch out. If a second civil war erupts, Heartlanders will destroy rail lines into cities along with ripping-up or dissolving interstate highways. Pouring gasoline on asphalt eats the road -- gasoline is a great solvent. Opening up the valves on tanker trucks could spill gasoline on hundreds of miles of highways leading in and out of cities. And, conservative Americans have access to vast numbers of heavy construction equipment. Note that construction equipment can also be used as destruction equipment.

https://www.renovation-headquarters.com/asphalt-repair.html

"A spill of gasoline, diesel fuel, brake and transmission fluids spilled on asphalt will immediately begin to dissolve the binder that holds the aggregate together, as shown in Figure 1. There is no known method to reverse the dissolving process."


Cities waging war on America's Heartland could end up monstrously "altering" their own urban "life".


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The current levels of inflation are quite startling. Of course the UK government (as I am sure all others do) give all sorts of reasons to justify the rises, but I suspect a percentage of it is simply greed as the UK supermarkets have all been posting record profits.

 

I am convinced in the back of my mind....that governments are secretly removing certain food stuffs...from the marketplace for the Military....medicines and anti biotics...in preparation for the next war...

I have been thinking this for some time now....remember a military moves on it's stomach. I thought this in particular when eggs went through the roof....that someone was removing eggs big time from the marketplace and drying them for the Military.

I do not know if any of you are aware of it but dried eggs have gone up drastically in the last three years or more...


What cleared this up for me is the recent announcement that if you need pet anti biotics....you now have to go to your Veterinarian to get prescriptions filled for your pet/pets..

The Military will need antibiotics...big time.


But don't worry ....ESPN and the Kardashians are going to get us out of this fix.....


My non Ishmaelite .02,
Watcherchris.

 

I'm no conspiracy nut, but when we have over 100 fires at food processing plants and poultry farms/facilities during a one and a half year period, then that raises an eyebrow.

I worked Quality Control for a couple of decades and the numbers are the numbers. On a large scale, factory defect numbers, national statistics, medical statistics, if the numbers start barking at you, then you better pay attention.

Some manager needs to yell out, "Hey, what's going on here?!"
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I thought from the beginning that those fires were a cover story for the amount of food being privily removed from the Marketplace....

It is just too coincidental...to me.

lonewolf.....good grief!!!! Wow!!!

Wow lonewolf.....you cannot possibly be that brainwashed....can you????


There is only one marketplace out here...only one....and both the civilians and government are making purchases out of it.

There is no second private government marketplace...

Think about how dumb your statement really is....


If the government ran a marketplace there would be very little and seldom arriving on time.......very narrow selection.

There is only one marketplace out here and the government is the worst possible caretaker of the marketplace.....and would run it for political gain ...votes....and the hell with the consumer..


My non Ishmaelite .02,
Watcherchris

 

Watcherchris,

As the decades roll by and records are released or illegally revealed, we discover the shenanigans our intel operatives have pulled in other countries, to other countries. Sometimes ... oft times, it can be some seriously sick sh##! Our government has pulled some unimaginable horrors overseas.

They did that "over there", right?! They'd never do that to us, their own citizens, right?!



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