My Bugout Bag Kit

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  1. Joe B.

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    Does anybody here have experience with these survival tabs? Amazon recomended them to me last night. (They are getting to know me too well)

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...&pf_rd_p=edaba0ee-c2fe-4124-9f5d-b31d6b1bfbee

    Normally I only eat real food, but I was thinking maybe in an emergency these would be good to have in a BOB. They would save space, would need no preparation and they last forever. Then again, in an emergency I probably would rather have real food.
     
  2. varuna

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    Such thing is part of my kit (standard issue / combat ration)

    Example of it:
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    Those compressed food tablet has very low Calorie, however they are easy to absorb by our body thus making them very efficient. They are should NOT be use as your routine food prep and should only be use as substitute of energy bar or similar. Example of their use is if you ever need to eat something while continue moving or as last ditch food (in case your food supply are gone or need to ditch them)
     
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  3. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Joe,

    No, have no experience with them.

    An evacuation under emergency conditions is a stress event. Quality - and familiar - foods is the situation that should be sought.

    Foods in a BOB need not be heavy nor large in volume.

    I augment my "infantry" style kit (evac by walking) foods with a small jar of vitamin /mineral pills from Walmart.

    Without recommending types/brands/ etc, ... there are sturdy envelopes of eg tuna, salmon. There are nutritious "on the go" bars that look like energy bars. The same type of sturdy envelope is used for some brands of tree nuts. Ditto: chocolates and hard candy "charms".

    Save weight and space for water.
     
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  4. Joe B.

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    Varuna and Pragmatist,

    Thanks for the input. I am still puting my emergency kit together, so I appreciate the perspectives. I will test out a few different options and see what works best for me.
     
  5. Blitz

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    I used to try and be "helpful" packing for my husband. He ALWAYS without fail took everything out and repacked it. It used to amaze me how he could fit so much stuff in such a small space. Packing is definitely a military skill, there's a real art to it.
     
  6. Dalewick

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    I think it is probably more of an infantry thing. A place for everything and everything in it's place. My wife never could understand how we carried such large rucksacks. Mine usually weighed at least 90 pounds. We always would help each other up when possible. Trees were also helpful. Getting up from flat ground with nothing around was the hardest. It's no wonder so many infantry soldiers end up with back, knee and leg problems.

    We always had our gear packed similar, so that in the total dark, we could retrieve essential gear from anyone's pack and keep moving.

    Dale
     
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  7. varuna

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    Can you still managed hauling such weight these days? In my current health condition I max out at around 25lbs not to mention I do have elevation limit.

    Most guys who made their career choice by jumping off from perfectly good airplane had it worse than regular infantry. Anyway powered exoskeleton is coming for infantryman, and everyone will be hauling more load with that.
     
  8. Dalewick

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    In my current health, I can still do about 50 lbs, but I'm limited to about 12 - 15 miles.. LOL! I'm a wimp now. LOL! If I do it, I pay for it for days.

    I also made that career choice. Lack of smarts and to much testosterone. I am airborne, air assault, HALO, HAHO and Combat swimmer certified. Or, I was back in the day. I enlisted and was 6 foot tall. When I medicaled out I was 5 foot 10 inches. I shrank 2 inches in a little over 5 years. I'm well aware of the cost.

    I'm still one of the lucky ones. I'm alive.

    Dale
     
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  9. varuna

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    I never understand why anyone would WILLINGLY jumping off from a perfectly good airplane :eek:, when alternative such as helicopter exist, or taking a boat if there is waterway.

    Back in high school I was offered to join such club (the club happen to be the school detachment unit) The recruiter were fine looking gals (they also happen to be my neighbour) who for reason I couldn't fathom thought it was a great idea to always carry 6 shooter revolver + extra ammo, pack of Durex Condom, make-up kit everywhere be that to school or during the jump :eek:. Anyway I don't have the slightest interest of jumping off from any airplane no matter how great looking the recruiter, no Thank You :cool:. In fact I still doing my best to avoid taking ride in anything that is flying when there is alternative such as train or ship
     
  10. lonewolf

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    Bug Out bags should not be that heavy, they should only have enough to get one to where their going, not to have everything" including the kitchen sink".
    if someone cannot stand up without help wearing the pack then its too heavy.
     
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      The referred to side conversation was about military packs. Not BOB's, GHB's or even INCHB's. Two totally different worlds. My GHB is only about 21 pounds with everything in it. In the Army I've carried packs that from behind, you couldn't see anything but below my knees. NOT something I'd recommend for any prepper.
       
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  11. Dalewick

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    LOL! I had a drill sergeant tell us the only thing that should fall out of the sky is bird shit and fools. Guess I was a fool. I wasn't that fond of static line jumps but HALO and HAHO jumps were AWESOME!!! I especially loved HAHO jumps. It is so cold that high up and your on oxygen a good while but man, what a view! The world is so quiet that high up. Very peaceful! Night jumps are scary and awesome at the same time. Especially moonless night HALO jumps. Only things worse was jumping into water or I had to do a LALO jump once. That was INSANE!! Jump from 500 feet. My parachute wasn't fully open when my ass hit the ground. That was painful.

    Dale
     
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  12. TexDanm

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    I can pack a blivit bag like that. A blivit is a 5 pound bag with 10 pounds of stuff put in it somehow. A blivit is bigger on the inside than it is on the outside evidently.
     
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      Always amazes me how anyone can pack like that. It's a skill I definitely don't have!
       
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  13. Blitz

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    I love parachuting. My husband was a paratrooper. He also loved HALO and HAHO jumps, not so much static line. He said (back in the day) parachuting was a better rush than sex. I thought he was crazy until I did it myself, the adrenaline rush is amazing. He broke his ankle from a jump and was supposed to be off for 6 weeks. They were due to leave in a few days on a mission, so he cut the plaster off and went. He came to regret it though, his ankle had floating bone which caused no end of pain in later years, as well as constant knee pain. I've still got a parachute of his, got no idea what the hell I'm going to do with it!
     
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  14. Pragmatist

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    Good evening Blitz,

    If you've got the parachute bag, it's both a collector's item and also a great type of luggage.
     
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  15. Blitz

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    I've got most of my husband's military stuff, including 2 bergens with all the "fittings". I can't bring myself to sell any of it though!
     
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      As a soldier I know. The most precious thing he had, was you. Your always trying to get home.
       
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  16. Dalewick

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    I understand the better than sex thing. Jumping was part of why I became an adrenalin junkie. That rush as you step out the door. Especially HALO or HAHO and your so high. The cold air rushing past makes you know, your alive. I LOVED evening and morning jumps. Seeing the sun on the horizon and the curve of the earth. Truly breath taking!

    I believe it's impossible for a soldier to explain the emotional and psychological cost of what we do. Just training alone is enough to make adrenalin junkies. Jumping from planes, rappelling from helicopters, fast roping, 30 - 30's, hand to hand, CQB and so much more.

    And combat....that adds a deminsion that shouldn't be explained.

    Did your husband ever open up? Not long after I got married my wife asked questions and I answered honestly. She's never asked again.

    There are some things we can talk about. Others we take to the grave with us.

    Dale
     
  17. Blitz

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    He opened up about some pretty horrendous things. I have no doubt there's a lot he didn't though. Some of the experiences he went through were mind bending but I think the worst was when he lost most of his battalion. He never got over that. He never lost the dislike of the people who he fought against either. I'm sure you know what I mean, so I won't elaborate. He was a real hard bastard when he needed to be. Nothing fazed him at all. Ever. There was nothing he couldn't cope with but I guess when you've been through hell and back, there's not much else to worry you.
     
  18. Dalewick

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    This says it better than I ever could.

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    Dale
     
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      Oh yeah. Absolutely.
       
      Blitz, May 26, 2020
  19. Max rigger

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    Bergen's, you either love em or hate em, I've still got mine with all the other bits of kit I 'liberated' a decade or so back, I like them and use them as bag of choice when four season hill walking; not lightweight but bomb proof.

    I don't have a bug out bag as such but I guess I've got all the equipment I'd need to make one. I'm struggling to see the need for one in the UK, nowhere to bug out to. If the house caught fire I'd bug out to a hotel but I can't see a scenario that will come without warning as in the current situation you'll have time to assemble what you need; I usually have a bottle of water, jump leads, fuses, FAK, torch in the car though (memo to self: buy water and put in back of van).
     
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  20. Max rigger

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    Blimey, how old was he, we ain't lost most of a battalion since the Korean conflict I thought.
     
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  21. randyt

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    these old boys would do about 250 to 300 pound portages.

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      The good thing about portages is, it's usually not that far and it's going back in the boat as soon as possible.
       
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  22. Blitz

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    He wasn't that old, certainly not Korean War age. I don't know Max. All I know is he said he lost most of his men on a mission. Perhaps he was talking about a group, as opposed to a battalion, in which case, my error.
     
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      In small units it happens all to often. Before I had my own team we lost 3 of the 6 in one Operation. It's hard to shake, but it's way worse when it's your team. I lost 2. I know that pain.
      Did your husband serve during the Falklands?
       
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  23. lonewolf

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    I don't have a bug out bag because I'm not bugging out given my location, but I do have a get home bag if the car breaks down and the break down services aren't available.
     
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  24. Old Geezer

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    Yet another reason to keep a bug-out bag in your car. I was driving just before this bad weather hit also (650 miles) but up and down the highways adjacent to the Appalachian Mountains. During the last leg of my journey, the snow had fallen, but there were no hazards for me; nevertheless, glad I'd thrown my boots and winter jacked into my SUV. Had to do some ice and snow cleanup to get Mr. SUV ready to go.

    "Heavy Snow in Virginia Strands Hundreds of Drivers on I-95 in Freezing Temperatures"


    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-of-drivers-on-i-95-in-freezing-temperatures/

    "The heavy snow that buried Virginia has left hundreds of drivers stranded on Interstate 95 in the state, including former governor and Democrat Senator Tim Kaine.

    "Drivers are stranded on a 50-mile stretch of the highway that runs along the length of the eastern United States. The stranding event happened after the pile up of six tractor-trailers and authorities are still trying to reach people on Tuesday.

    "AP reported that people with cell phones have been posting desperate messages about running out of fuel, food and water.

    "Compounding the challenges, traffic cameras shut down as much of central Virginia lost power in the snow storm, VDOT reported.

    "More than 281,000 customers remained without electricity on Tuesday, according to the website poweroutage.us.

    “'I’ve never seen anything like it,' Emily Clementson, a truck driver, told NBC Washington.

    "Clementson said drivers should seek help from truckers, who routinely carry emergency supplies."

    Old Geezer's take: I sure do bet that this Emily Clemenson has made herself an enemy of her fellow truck drivers! Were I a trucker and I got stuck, my provisions would be MY provisions. Don't come knocking at my truck door if you didn't prepare for misfortune.
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  25. Old Geezer

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    Pathetic mega-idiots speak-out:

    "I-95 winter storm traffic disaster: Drivers are fuming and demanding answers from Virginia officials"

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/i-95-winter-storm-traffic-disaster-virginia

    "Traveling only 31 miles in 12 hours on Interstate 95 is an experience that Joseph Catalano never could have imagined being part of his family’s post-Christmas trip to Disney World.

    "The New Jersey father of two, who says he opted to drive to Orlando over concerns that the flights he had booked would be canceled due to the omicron coronavirus variant, is now among a growing number of travelers who are fuming at Virginia officials after getting trapped on Interstate 95 for hours on end following a Monday snowstorm.

    "'They let you go right into the mess,' he told Fox News Digital after making it to Maryland midday Tuesday. 'And once you got into that mess, there was no turning back.'

    "Catalano, who was traveling with his wife and two children, ages 7 and 10, says he was just under six hours from his home in northern New Jersey last night when the situation quickly deteriorated.

    "'We stopped in hotels and there was people shoulder to shoulder laying... I was going to go in there and say, ‘Can we get a cot and go in a conference room?’ You couldn’t even walk into the hotel, the Marriott, there was people laying on the floor shoulder to shoulder,' Catalano told Fox News Digital, describing one scene he says he encountered near Quantico, Virginia.

    "Catalano added that at one point, he went only 31 miles in 12 hours along a stretch of I-95. He is now calling the situation a 'complete failure by the entire state of Virginia.'

    "'I don’t know where the management comes from. I don’t know how they are not prepared for something like this,' Catalano said. 'It wasn’t just black ice. It was this thick layer where my son said, ‘Dad, this would be awesome, I could go ice skating on it’.'"

    "An NBC News meteorologist also accused Virginia officials of not doing enough beforehand."

    Old Geezer's take: The above guy makes me sick. I'd have thrown boo-hoo boy a box of tissues so he could wipe his tears and blow his nose.

    For two or three days, meteorologists had been predicting bad weather, heavy snow and ice. This Catalano and his ilk should have kept up with the news before traveling. I did. While traveling, I was away from the worst of this, but I had drinks, food, blankets, ropes, tools, winter coat, boots, fire-starter devices, magnesium shavings, ... . I knew that my altitude was never going to go below 1300 ft above sea level and could exceed 2200 ft. I knew that I would only pass by the periphery of towns and that most of the time, I'd be surrounded by fields and forests. "Get ready, Freddy!"

    I was traveling again today and saw hundreds of trees with their big limbs snapped off like toothpicks. Saw trees tipped over with their giant root systems pulled out of the ground. Road crews were trying to cut the worst of it / the trees and big limbs that had fallen across the roads.

    The audacity of weak people to complain! Royally gets under my skin.

    Just figure that Mother Nature is going to do Her worst and prepare for that. If you are weak, keep your mouth shut.
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  26. Old Geezer

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    The following photos are ones that are seen every winter in the majority of America, so just be ready for it. Don't demand that Big Brother hold your hand. Places here that usually don't get this mess due to being further South or near the coast sometime DO get this, duh!!! Prepare or suffer.

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  27. lonewolf

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    you see these people all the time over here when the first winter storms hit, the first flakes of snow and the traffic grinds to a halt, they get out of their cars in their shirt sleeves, no jackets, no coats, no food, no water, probably not even a spare tyre-some new cars dont have one, the Police have to arrange to ferry them to the local "emergency shelter" which is usually the nearest motel.
     
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  28. Old Geezer

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    And its not just stupid-#### individuals. Some states in the U.S. have to bail-out other states.

    Specifically, North Carolina road crews are all-the-time heading to South Carolina to bail them out of winter storms.

    Just this past week while traveling, saw Georgia power crews in Virginia trying to get their electricity back in operation.

    Just some more evidence that during a SHTF situation, you can just kiss electricity good-bye. Your personal electrical generator, you must use very sparingly. Go non-electric until you absolutely have enough fuel for a specific task. Tanks of kerosene and old-timey lamps and candles are our core friends. Be prepared to cook over burning wood. Make sure you have extra chains for your chain saws. Keep oil for 2-cycle engines. Keep chain-saw blade oil to extend the life of your machine. NEVER risk binding your chainsaw's nose, because you'll not be able to run down to your friendly hardware store for a new chain.

    In non-apocalyptic SHTF scenarios, fuel shipments will be protected by military; HOWEVER, these shipments will only occur sporadically and only when there is fuel left over from core infrastructure needs. You'll pay top dollar, or should I say top silver to get what little-bit you get. I've held my family's WWII ration stamps in my hand. Expect EXTREME rationing.
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  29. lonewolf

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    in a SHTF situation we have to EXPECT the power grid to go down and should therefore plan accordingly, if something can go wrong it WILL go wrong, unfortunately most of the masses will not as they dont expect the power to ever shut down and the casualties in cold weather and through accidents will be huge.
     
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  30. lonewolf

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    Rationing as happened in WW2 will not be possible, riots and looting will occur, expect rationing by shortages and non availability not by ration book.
     
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  31. Old Geezer

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    SHTF events are not all total collapse scenarios.

    Currently, the landslide into chaos is going at a slow rate. It will likely speed up. Some planetary event could happen in a day; however, the odds are much more likely that there will be a slide into oblivion or a series of events, that added together, will push us into a massive decompensation.

    In the USSA, there will be a catastrophic earthquake occur on our section of the Pacific Ring of Fire. That will not crash the nation. The dollar is going to take a wet dump. We will get involved in yet another foreign war or wars. Individually, these are super bad. Add them together and it spells collapse.

    "One size does not fit all."
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  32. lonewolf

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    I did say "shortages and non availability"!! I have always thought that SHTF would be a long gradual process getting worse as it progresses, not one big bang .
     
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  33. Old Geezer

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    Watched this vid last night and found it very informative:

    "Gearing Up | Temperatures Drop and Chaos Heats Up | On3 Jason Salyer"



    "15,405 viewsOct 15, 2023#survival#urbansurvival#shtfsurvival"
    "Fall is here and the temperatures are dropping. It is time to add additional survival gear to your kit. Extra warming layers, sleeping bags, fire starting tools and materials are crucial. Waterproofing your gear is even more important in freezing weather. The world is also becoming increasingly more dangerous and violent. The need for self defense is increasingly important. In this video we gear up for lower temperatures and increasing violence."
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    Water purifier information. Me, my first go-to is Katadyn, however I have others -- smaller units.

    Brands other than Katadyn:





    Last but not least, the Katadyn. Katadyn water filters are VERY expensive. What is your life, your family's lives, worth?





    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X47qfQ6pNs

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