The Pandemic.

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  1. lonewolf

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    its a communist country, what did anyone expect? of course they will try to hush it up and deny everything.
     
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  2. F22 Simpilot

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    Here in the U.S. a majority of the intelligence community (there are 16 known intelligence agencies) feel that it did come from that lab in Wuhan. Not as a weapon though. They are responsible for malfeasance for their sheer carelessness. And I said it before and I'll say it again. China has been responsible for wrongful deaths since circa 1300 i.e, plagues of bull shit!

    It's time for the U.S. and the world to wise up to this turd and flush it.
     
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  3. watcherchris

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    Someone is not telling us everything here...on the left and the right....

    China is, to me, conducting themselves as did the Japanese before WW2....and securing resources to feed their industries and thereby their nation.

    See Greater East Asia Co Prosperity Sphere....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_East_Asia_Co-Prosperity_Sphere


    They are coming into competition with other nations vying for resources and also for trade routes. If one knows some history one can see this historical pattern repeating itself and with the decedents of the same "Usual Suspects" who did it before and again after WW2....built and manufactured our next enemy.

    To clear this up....our leadership here in America has had a long running practice...and I mean here ...long running practice......of building, supplying, arming , then fighting our own created competitors....our next enemy.

    Few Americans know the names of the Western companies and or banks who financed the Japanese, and Germans...taught them how to build aircraft carriers and industries when most of their industries/economics had collapsed....massive technology transfers.

    The Japanese built several aircraft carries and submarines when most nations could not afford one of these types of ships...who taught them how to do this...operate a large aircraft carrier and build the planes to fly off it...submarines too????
    They got the know how from somewhere...from someone???

    Someone in the West..built China into the massive industrial giant she is today....massive technology transfers with the approval of our own government/State Department......as their private for profit kingdom.....and are determined to keep it as their sovereign fiefdom behind the scenes wherein most do not detect it happening.
    Bill Gates is not alone in this....
    I am certain that most of these people and or groups do not want their names out there among the general public....Bill Gates is just one of the more easily known/Sacrificed of them.

    This ground work was started many administrations/years back with Nixon's Ping Pong Diplomacy...

    Be Warned of history repeating itself...and you being required to sacrifice your finest blood ..once again....should someone's private investments in China go bad as they did before WW1 and WW2.

    Remember....Good Cop/Bad Cop..when you read or follow the news....
    GFW Hegel....Dialectic...Thesis/ anti Thesis/Synthesis.

    Ever stop to think they are all bad cops...or at least..all cops...not good cop/bad cop?????

    When this happens...like before WW2....you will be very quickly herded to get on the bandwagon....before you realize what is happening or happened for years and years now...this because of your basic television and or movie education.....
    The system is designed for you to not know this much and react...not to think...


    Be Warned...of history repeating itself.....Wake up...!!!

    The same olde Ishmaelites at work....in the Deep State.


    Watcherchris,
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  4. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Watcherchris,

    Don't forget "Our man in China", General Joseph "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell, a real military attache, Pre WWII, reported much of this to Washington, D.C.

    FDR fired Stilwell.
     
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  5. watcherchris

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    Wow Pragmatist,

    You know your history.....

    Most people today have never heard the name...or moniker "Viniger Joe" Stillwell....but I have in my WW2 readings.

    Thanks for bringing it up.



    The General of whom I know..in warning the American people is named Smedley Butler....between WW1 and WW2...in his book... "War Is A Racket."

    https://www.amazon.com/War-Racket-Antiwar-Americas-Decorated/dp/0922915865

    I don't believe he was well received after printing the truth back then...just as many are today.....

    Again history repeating itself..




    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  6. Skywalker

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    War is a racket. Big wars = Big profits for the mega-corporations.
     
  7. Pragmatist

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    Good evening Watcherchris,

    USMC Gen Smedley Butler was not liked by FDR.
     
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  8. Skywalker

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    General Butler fought in enough interventions, invasions, conflicts and wars to realize that maximum profits required maximum blood to be shed.
     
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  9. watcherchris

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    If I recall places in General Butler's book...he describes his intervening militarily in Central America on behalf of a business called The United Fruit Company. I may have this wrong but today I believe that company is called......Dole.

    And that was the gist of what General Butler was describing ....the shedding of blood in these countries to protect someone's investments...

    This is the history not found in most of our public educations...it is not allowed..

    And yes...Pragmatist ...I expect General Butler was not liked by FDR.\

    It is the Same with an author named...Anthony Sutton...he too got to close to the Truth about economic dealings with certain companies/countries...and arming, manufacturing ...building our next enemy to fight..



    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  10. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Watcherchris,

    Our United Fruit Company had a "colorful" history. It's military was A+. It's fleet: ditto.

    United Fruit - I've got to leave out much of the background/intrigue because of this format - became United Brands, via some financial transactions, Wall Street arrangements and some D.C. participation. The United Brands CEO, besides being a Wall Street financier of some sort was also an orthodox Rabbi.

    The CEO got caught in a scandal that went public. He was alleged to have paid a small bribe to a south of the border dictatorship. I recall the amount was small for this type of business trade and Wall Street standards.

    The CEO committed suicide by jumping out of his Manhattan office window (Please don't laugh).

    United Fruit Company owned a central American railroad, ran a post office, Think of the Brit's Colonial Office (believe closed circa 1964) and United Fruit Co was an equal for it's area of "business".

    I can guess their boats carried more Thompson SMGs, more BARs, more of those unconventional arty rounds Lt Harry Truman used in WWI, than many of the world's navies.

    Of course this stuff's not taught.
     
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  11. Skywalker

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    I’ve always said that when the politicians start a war, they should be sent to the front lines first.
     
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  12. Old Geezer

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    Good evening Old Geezer,

    Just read the links.

    Under the subhead "Zizi and Gala", did not understand the term "treaty guarantee". This term was written in Belgium ? They knew more about treaty guarantees since Ronald Reagan was 1 year old. The Germans didn't care about Belgium's neutrality when the Great War started.

    That Chinese "smart valley" is definitely smart. Why are the reports from Belgium intelligence being ignored ? The project and 800 jobs for Wallonia was accepted with knowledge of the intel reports.

    Belgium is like the PIGS - Portugal , Italy, Greece and Spain. They all overpay themselves and need the Chinese money to keep the high salaries going.

    Belgium has little concern for security. They like money, waffles, chocolate and miss the Belgium Congo.

    ......

    I'm of the opinion all this theater had some arrangements. The loss of the elderly and not-old sick/infirm is desired by some.

    Large national economies are being restructured.
     
  14. TexDanm

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  15. F22 Simpilot

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    Just like the flu. I thought that all along. It's just that since this virus is more contagious there has been a lot of overblown hype and political nonsense. Then it's evident the media has climbed up inside the ass of some people since I see them wear a stupid mask in their own cars or walking OUTSIDE in a park or walking the damn dog.

    A) A mask doesn't stop you from getting a virus that is so small it takes an electron microscope to see it.

    B) Wearing a mask inside your car is NOT necessary.

    C) Wearing a mask outside is not really needed since the virus from what I read last but 8 minutes outside. And now during the warm, humid weather with lots of UV, you could probably cut that in half now.

    Full disclosure. I'm not a doctor. Consult your doctor.
     
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  16. lonewolf

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    if people want to wear a mask that is their personal decision, the politicians cant seem to make their minds up either way.
    its not just like the flu, this corona virus might come from the same family of viruses as the flu but it is more virulent than the flu, hence the large number of deaths, if people hadn't been ordered to go into isolation the death rates would have far higher and the consequences for our respective countries would have been greater.
     
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  17. F22 Simpilot

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    Wearing a mask in a grocery store or large public gatherings is prudent to protect others. Wearing one in the god damn car isn't!
     
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  18. lonewolf

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    that's their decision.
     
  19. F22 Simpilot

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    And there in lies the problem where common sense, logic and reason take a back seat to unfounded science. And these people vote! Thus the shit show we now have called congress from DC to state to state.
     
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  20. Old Geezer

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  21. F22 Simpilot

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    In order to read the PDF from the link the article cites, you practically need a bioengineering degree. So with that, I can't say for sure if what is said here is true or not. For one, why would China want to hamper their own economy? Especially since they manufacture damn near everything the world buys? So from that perspective it would seem to me it's unlikely that the virus was man-made. But then again, and knowing how rotten to the core China is, you never know.
     
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      If China knew they were going to take a huge hit to their economy (major lock down) They would not want the worlds other economies to be able to take a major share of their manufacturing. What would happen if all the western economies were not effected by the China Virus? The western countries would have ramp-ted up their manufacturing and continued to prosper. Did China let it loose on purpose, I don't think so but once they knew it was loose, they did deliberately let is spread world wide. As pointed out, human life means absolutely nothing to China and loss of life in foreign nations is counted as a plus.
       
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  22. poltiregist

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    Believe it or not , accept it or not Racial inherited genes does effect the reasoning process . This is something we see within ALL races . I am NOT saying one group is smarter than another but genes does have an influence on brain thinking . China would infect it's own population if they thought this in the end would help them usher in Communism for the western countries . By starting it in their own country they had the ability to establish precedence of what the proper response should be for the rest of the countries . City Lock Downs , Social Distancing and wearing muzzles over the mouths of the citizens . All in an effort " coordinated with Democrats " to stop Trump's Campaign Rallies . Killing millions of people around the globe is acceptable to Communist to reach their goal of a Communist World Order .--- It is well known Joe Biden and son made visits to China to hold behind door meetings and received millions of dollars from these visits - All before the virus broke out .
     
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  23. lonewolf

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    as far a Communist China goes that is quite believable.
    whenever I see the communist party gathering it looks like a load of zombies all doing what their told, i thought that was only NK but i suppose its the same for all communist countries, do what your told or disappear for ever.
     
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  24. Old Geezer

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    Central takeaway from article is that genetic sequences in the virus are engineered, i.e. not found in nature.

    The release from the Wuhan lab could have been accidental. Even though China manufactures its biological warfare agents using the technologies learned by their students studying here in the West, still their labs are not as well-secured as Western laboratories.

    If it was intentional, know that China has an enormous surplus of people -- there are 1.5 billion people in China. The rights of individual citizens means nothing to the Chinese military, nor to the central members of Chinese Communist Party. Note also that there are now over 50 million males without females to marry. This is due to the Chinese aborting females babies hoping to have a son (add this to the communist "one child policy").

    China can take a huge hit on its population and still come out with a fully-functioning populace. During the height of the covid outbreak in China, the leadership were nowhere to be found. The leadership had quarantine facilities for themselves.

    If China's Covid starts a war, they have tens of millions of surplus males. China is going to a war-footing configuration. The Chinese Navy has been ordered to go aggressive -- conflicts are perpetually occurring in the South China Sea. China is manufacturing islands in that sea for the purpose of claiming oil rights and to project their military further south.

    Whether the covid was intentionally or unintentionally released, things will work out for China. If nations stop buying from China, this will be a trigger for China to go aggressive. The nation of India could pose a threat to China in the realm of manufacturing and pose a threat to China in its goal of pushing into the Indian ocean ("string of pearls" strategy). Thus we recently witnessed a border shoot-out between India and China.

    China is on the march. The covid outbreak hurt them, but is now helping them. Note how the collectivist MSM is pro-shut-down America. People, China is a dragon coming out to "play".

    https://realityanddenial.wordpress.com/2020/05/26/china-becoming-ever-more-aggressive-and-dangerous/

    https://www.lifenews.com/2020/01/28...irls-killed-in-china-where-are-the-feminists/
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  25. Joe B.

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    Yeah, but China already fixed their COVID problem. Just Google "COVID cases china", and you will see an up to date chart of their new cases. They had a spike in new cases on Feb 16 when they got caught lying about their cases, but ever since then, they've had practically no cases. Surely they would not lie to us AGAIN after getting caught. Clearly the lesson here is we should all convert to communism to keep the COVID away.
     
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  26. F22 Simpilot

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    While true, I highly doubt their backroom deals and what have you have anything to do with this virus as it sounds like it was emanated from a lab in Wuhan (the epicenter) of which had all kinds of safety failures and was warned about by I believe the WHO and maybe others for years. Lumping Biden and his son's BS into this doesn't add any credence to this pandemic conspiracy theory at all.
     
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  27. F22 Simpilot

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    This is all true, but doesn't mean anything as to how it relates to an article that cites a PDF I have yet to understand without knowing virology, etc. The article puts out there in a blanket statement that THIS WAS a virus which was man made. That information could have come from just a small paragraph or something withen that PDF and the article's author jumped the gun saying something like, "oh look here! The smoking gun!" It's quite possible it was engineered, but it's quite another to say it was purposely let lose to harm the world at large.

    For all intents and purposes, China needs a boot in their ass because of this. Not because of some idea this virus was purposely let out, but their sheer neglect, carelessness and blocking scientists and silencing all who speak about their carelessness as to not take responsibility for their own actions.

    So to me, pay back should be in the form of us pulling companies out of there and making our own shit for once and all the money we owe them should be null and void. Sanctions should also be looked into, but that would be last on the list least we lose very important shit coming in from over there right now like pharmaceuticals. So we MUST stop this Communist dictating bull shit country from making our crap. And no, the answer is not India making our shit either. When are we going to put our own people to work and do what is right and make our shit and let us be a major exporter and grow the economy, fund the deficit through the taxes collected and be stronger then ever before? We are on borrowed time and sooner or latter the USD will lose so much value that you can call the U.S. the failed Roman Empire part deux.
     
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