A British Crime Problem; Involves Labour Party Understanding

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  1. Pragmatist

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    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...mens-safety-idUKKBN2B31BO?edition-redirect=in


    Good morning all,

    Per ...

    If "a woman ... detained on suspicion of assisting an offender" ... is not understood as part of the problem - and the solution - then Labour Party spokesperson Phillips needs some guidance from Scotland Yard and the mental helath division of NHS. Appointments available as early as Summer, 2023.

    Clutching keys as weapons is really not appropriate in the land of the Wilkinson Sword. Are "trainers" people of track shoes ?

    .........

    It's the same problem here on this side of pond.
     
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  2. lonewolf

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    cant read the link, the privacy statement blocks everything.
    The Labour party lost the plot long ago .
     
  3. Old Geezer

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    "Racism cannot explain away youth violence"

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/11/21/racism-cannot-explain-away-youth-violence/

    "Youth violence is intrinsically tragic. It is a catastrophe that so many young men and boys, due to a complex matrix of moral, social, economic and cultural reasons, make decisions and take actions that will likely lead to the permanent and vicious disfiguring of their lives and those of others. There is no silver-bullet solution or public-policy programme that will completely resolve this issue. One thing we must not do, however, is hand the young men caught up in youth violence an excuse – a narrative about deprivation or racism that can be used to excuse or explain away their behaviour.

    "Last week, the New York Times published a report on the trial of 10 black teenagers charged with conspiracy to murder in Manchester in the UK. The piece details how the group of young men planned a ‘revenge’ attack against a rival group that had been involved in the brutal murder of one of their friends, John Soyoye. The Manchester Evening News has reported that, following Soyoye’s death, ‘members of the M40 gang stocked up on weapons including machetes and a crossbow, and carried out at least three brutal attacks to avenge’ him. The attacks were ‘meticulously planned on group chats over three months’. Four members of the group were found guilty by a jury of conspiracy to commit murder and a further six were found guilty of conspiracy to commit grievous bodily harm with intent. They received sentences ranging from 20 months to 21 years in prison. This is yet another example of the needless destruction that is left in the wake of violent crime.

    "The New York Times piece rightly points to one of the most striking things about this case: that many of the members of this ‘gang’ were not without prospects. One had been accepted into Salford University for an accounting course, another was due to start an engineering course, another had been an active member of his school and local community. However, the piece avoids the most pertinent questions, such as why a group of young boys, clearly capable of contributing to society, would knowingly engage in acts of such gratuitous and nihilistic violence – acts that eviscerated their future. Rather than ask why we are failing to socialise these young men, or how we might break the cycle of violence, the piece simply hands them an excuse: racism.

    "Reporting like this is deeply corrosive and disempowering to black youths. It promotes a narrative of victimhood and hands excuses to people. The end of the article quotes Adedeji, saying that ‘because of the colour of my skin I got handed down a lengthy sentence’. This mindset will do nothing to help him understand what he has done and what he can do to change his life. It will only breed resentment and defeatism. But this is precisely the mindset being promoted by the media on both sides of the Atlantic."

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  4. lonewolf

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    Black youths in the UK at least are city people and city only, you dont see them in the countryside, many are from single parent families and have no father figure to provide moral guidance therefore they join gangs which then become their "family".
     
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    Sad but true Old Geezer, The attitude that allowed people to think they were convicted of being black instead of being convicted of a serious crime like attempted murder is not a healthy mindset.
    There is a general lack of good sense in a lot of teenage boys, whatever their race or religious background. If they fall in with bad influences or the wrong crowd they can end up throwing away their lives and ruining the lives of others.
     
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    There was a tendency among working class white youths back in the 70s to believe that one was convicted for being poor. This is not a new phenomenon. The problem with young black men is that so many are involved in a drugs and knives cultures, which seems to be endemic these days, that on a pro rate basis they are more likely to offend in their communities. A bit of self awareness of the issues would help them a good deal.
     
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  7. Old Geezer

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    There is a sick mindset prevailing in Western nations wherein "somebody is to blame" / "I'm oppressed". When individual responsibility goes out the window, then civilization begins to crumble.

    The only reason that a healthy religious atmosphere helps lower crime is due to the teaching of, "This is on YOUR soul! Do what is right, otherwise YOU will be held to account for your actions."

    The blame game and imaginings of entitlement bring down civilizations. Human History speaks loudly and clearly about this.
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  8. lonewolf

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    we now have the "I'm Offended" brigade, if its something they dont agree with then they are offended.
    get a life springs to mind.
     
  9. Brownbear

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    I've noticed that, lately, anybody that does not agree with the far left gets branded, by them, as far right. It's a lousy situation and tat we have politically and racially biased police does not help in the least.
     
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  10. lonewolf

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    anyone who marches for Israel is branded by the pro-palestine mob as fascists and far right.
    I'm not sure ALL Police forces are PC but the Met certainly are.
     
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  11. Old Geezer

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    Irony:

    "Big Brother Keeps an Eye on Orwell Home"

    https://commonplacefacts.com/2022/06/05/big-brother-watches-orwell-home/

    "George Orwell’s novel 1984 took the world by storm when it was published in 1949. It told the story of a dystopian future where the government maintained control by keeping a close eye on all of the people. Known as ”Big Brother,” the government used every means available to spy on its citizens. The populace grew accustomed to this loss of privacy. Those who might be inclined to forget were warned in posters and billboards that ”Big Brother is Watching.”

    "What was written as a fictional warning about the future has become, in many respects, a prophetic description of today. London ranks as the most surveilled city in the world. Clarion Security Systems estimates that there are over 942,562 CCTV cameras in London. With a population of over 9.4 million residents, that comes out to one camera for every 10 people in the nation’s capital.

    "One London neighborhood is particularly well watched. At least 32 cameras are focused on the streets, sidewalks, and alleys of Canonbury Square in Islington, North London. Many of the cameras, such as this one provide 24/7 online monitoring through the camera’s never-blinking eye."
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    Safety or Liberty? You can't have both.

    [​IMG]

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  12. lonewolf

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    maybe London needs it, most crime we see reported on our tv screens seems to be in London.
     
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  13. Old Geezer

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    I'd say that many English folk no longer see London as being part of England.

    In the American heartlands, we no longer consider the megalopolises as being American.

    Los Angeles and New York City are international cities. The human behaviors in such places doesn't match our culture. Pacific coast cities pose little threat to those east of them in that the mountains and deserts provide a natural wall to contain refugees. Here in the east however, we could easily get refugees from the coastal urban sprawls. Where the wife and I live we are within refugee range of these anthills. These are under 200 miles away = way too close.

    We in this area will have to establish perimeters. The interstate highways will get jammed for a few days. That's a bit of protection; however, there are numerous state and county roads due to the innumerable number of farms. Agricultural goods have to get to market. So, those roads will need to be cut or manned by armed locals.

    A month ago-ish, I started down a county road, using it as a shortcut. Oops, didn't get very far. Locals standing out in the road blocked me and signaled for me to turn around. While making a U-turn, I could see that a horrible accident had occurred on a hill-curve on the road ahead -- really a nasty curve that, gotta be careful, stay well on your side of the road, lest cause a head-on collision. There are several houses there, so everybody was out, some directing traffic. Fire department and police officers were dealing with the bad wreck.

    Locals here do this sort of thing. People act. If things go sideways, we don't just sit and watch. Example: Let's say some psycho is walking down a street shooting into houses and businesses. Mr. Psycho would stand a huge chance of getting shot by the locals. I myself would go out and cut him in half with lots of lead. Got a loaded accurate .357 lever action rifle sitting behind me. You don't think about it. You act. You do something to shut-down chaos of any sort. If Mr. Psycho did this out in county farmlands, the locals would nuke him long before the sheriff's department deputies got there. He'd catch a round from a deer rifle. Out there, every household has a scoped deer rifle. Maybe that's why we don't get many psychos going on shooting sprees here in the Heartlands. Even a nutcase understands that he's not going to get much accomplished other than getting himself dead -- might as well commit suicide at home.

    Side note about local roads in Southern Appalachia: Roads here are massively curvy, with upgrades and downgrades, many of which are steep. Between mountain ranges, the valleys are not flat, it's all rolling land. Any flat-ish places are farming fields. Fields and pastures cover these hills. All of this means that our roads are VERY curvy. Drivers here are good drivers, else there would be hundreds of deaths per month. There are straight stretches, but these are often used as illegal race strips. In the past 20 years, drag racing on the highways has been massively reduced. This, mainly because every county has formal race strips. We can hear the races from our house due to one such track only being a couple of miles away. Saturday night, we hear the rumble and the screaming of the race cars' huge engines. Legally or illegally, Southerners race their cars. Some of it is a hold-over from the moonshining days, but testosterone makes for the better part of the need to race.

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    Dirt track racing is super popular in the rural areas.

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  14. lonewolf

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    I never did see London as part of England, most Londoners think of themselves as Europeans not British and certainly not English, mind you its turning into a Muslim enclave more and more each day.
     
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  15. Old Geezer

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    As more refugees flood England, criminal behavior will increase. This will come as a shock because England has been an orderly society (hiccoughs, yes) for a good long while now. Even when Germany bombed England, the English continued to behave like proper Englishmen. With the influx of who knows how many people of other "cultures", plus the reproductive rate of those refugees, the civilized behaviors seen today will begin to get swept aside. For instance, there exists a tremendously higher rate of violence seen in North Africa than is seen in England. Those people are moving into the U.K. and continental Europe. Me, I'm thinking they'll not be all about afternoon tea and crumpets. Nowhere in Europe are they assimilating, so ... .
     
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    That also leads to a breakdown of there democratic process. Schools, colleges and universities are the seat of democratic debate. If one party disagrees with another there is a social process that allows a median point to be reached. Woke cancelling, particularly in universities is undermining that process. This phenomenon has occurred numerous times over history amongst which was the fall of Ancient Greece, most notably however was Chairman Moa's "Little Red Book" fiasco and before that Nazi Germany and the rise of national socialism. Neither of these examples ended well for he their population or country. Both ended in in mass murder, both ended in decline of those countries. China recovered (in a slightly different political form) but, of course, we all know what happened with Nazi Germany.

    It is happening throughout the western world right now, Trans extremism (scientifically there is no genetic possibility of 30% of your people have chromosomic aberrations) Muslim extremism, rising urban crime (much of it race related). The power void is there for a non-democratic leadership to rise and destroy western democracy and the rot has started in the schools and colleges.
     
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  17. lonewolf

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    this shows that TEOTWAWKI is only a matter of time and civilisation as we know it is doomed but I doubt many ordinary folk realise this yet.
     
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  18. Brownbear

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    I think it is on the way, the question is when?
     
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  19. Old Geezer

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    I'm dumbfounded that the international choo-choo has derailed already. When this happens, it's going to take every Western nation with it.

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      It is going to take all the nations with it, not just the western nations.
       
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  20. lonewolf

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    the way things are going in the world today the answer is probably not long.
    all countries are inter linked by trade and commerce, so one will affect another and so on.
     
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  21. lonewolf

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    We are so interconnected now that the whole world will be affected if our civilisation collapses.
    we have built a monumental house of cards held together by worldwide connections that are very fragile to disruptions.
    the Earth only has resources for an advanced technology to be a one time event, mother nature rarely gives us two bites of the cherry.
    even if we lose it all we will probably survive as a species, but for how long no one can tell, it is also wise to realise that 90% of all species that have ever existed have become extinct and many of the current species are getting very close to the point of no return caused in no small part by the actions of humans and loss of habitat.
     
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    1. TMT Tactical
      Almost all nations rely on imports. When the major western nations collapse, the import s and teh exports will cease. All the economies will suffer greatly. China relies on export for their economy and that will end. The U.k. relies on imports and that will end. America can be self sufficient but that will take a lot of work and major problems will have to be over come. Bottom line, when it hits the fan, it is going to be very ugly.
       
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  22. lonewolf

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    When I was a kid Britain didnt import much, this was long before we joined the so called "common Market" the forerunner to the EU, we imported New Zealand Lamb and Butter and Danish Bacon but most everything else was grown in Britain, now it comes in from all over the world and is available 12 months of the year, when TSHTF this will cease and unless someone can grow their own food they will suffer big time, food stocks wont last long with no resupply being available.
    we will be unable to feed the current population from the land acreage available.
     
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  23. Brownbear

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    I am a great believer in countries producing and consuming their own goods. I could never see the logic of importing and exporting equal amounts. This is an belief I have had since I was a young kid and had a Triang Hornby transit - back then they were Ade in Margate (they are actually made in China now) and my dad bought. aGerman train made by Fleischmann, on a whim, and tried it out on my trainset. I couldn't understand even at that time, and I would have been about 8 why the British product wasn't good enough for him. That experience had stuck with me, I have British motorcycles and now I have British cars (mostly, I have a Ford, an American brand, partly made in theUK, but also in Germany too, go figure).

    It just seemed to make sense to me as a child to buy stuff made here. I still do it as much as possible. I shun Chinese made goods (that is a trust issue I suppose) and am okay with European stuff up to a point.

    When oil runs out there will be no more imports, then what shall we do? In the UK we have very little manufacturing left.

    WTSHTF there will certainly be no mail ordering from overseas, that's for sure.
     
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  24. watcherchris

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    by Olde Geezer...

    Oh....no.....no Olde Geezer...not at all....

    You have to understand that Kalifornia...and New York are all of America ...en Toto!!!

    Everything else is flyover country and does not exist or does not count.


    All the rest of the country needs to be worshipping the very ground upon which Kalifornia ....especially Hollywood and New York set the pace for the rest of the country.

    We have a higher obligation to give up our rights, liberties, freedoms and walk'/march in lock step with Kalifornia and New York. Nothing else counts....only Ishmaelite/Woke beliefs and practices count. WE must keep up...at any cost.....even our very souls..

    Not sure what you are thinking here..


    Ishmaelites run wild...


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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      Funny! :p
      The terms "fly-over country" and "deplorables" is going to turn around and bight the "elite" in the butt. Seeing how things are going, this might not be very far away time-wise.
      [​IMG] All we have to do is shut-down transportation lines into the cities.
       
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  25. lonewolf

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    as I have said a few times, when I was a kid (1950s and 1960s) we ate what was in season and when it wasnt in season we didnt have it to eat, now most people eat rubbish food and dont know what real food looks like in its natural state.
    I stopped buying Chinese stuff when Covid hit.
    Germany does make some good tools but I wouldnt bother with anything from elsewhere in Europe.
    WTSHTF if someone cant make it themselves, repair it, grow it or breed it, then they wont have it, learn to live with the basics and live a simple life.
    when the system collapses there is only one person responsible for you and yours and that is you, no govt is coming to the rescue, you are on your own. pity more people dont realise that and act accordingly rather than wait until it happens and then panic.
     
  26. watcherchris

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    No ....no...no lonewolf....

    no...no .....no....you ...like Olde Geezer..have it bsckwards...



    When the SHTF...you have a higher obligation to put yourself into involuntary servitude to breast feed all these other people at your expense.......for free ...gratis.

    You are not only responsible for yourself...but all these other people...as well.

    You must feel guilt and shame for yourself....if you do not .otherwise...you are a racist...a homophobe...a white supremist...and whatever they make up next to control the herd.


    Remember ...only Ishmaelite beliefs and practices count.

    The New World Order UN Model we need to be following is Communist China...for .they know what is best for all of us!!!!!


    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  27. lonewolf

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    Chris I am not anyone of those things you mentioned but what I am is a xenophobe- I do not like or trust strangers.
    Post SHTF I wont be having contact with anyone else outside of my own household...thats me and one other.
     
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  28. watcherchris

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    LOL LOL LOL>..agree lonewolf...I was being a bit facetious...in my post..

    I am a bit like that myself...not that social..nor a social butterfly so to speak.

    Most of my life I have been a loner...by choice...it keeps things more simple...uncomplicated.

    Very few friends by choice.

    Also..part of being olde I suppose....I don't frighten as did I in my younger years...

    Very very few things scare me as did they in my younger years.

    I just prefer mostly to be and do alone.

    In that ...you and I agree...

    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  29. lonewolf

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    yes I thought your remark was rather "tongue in cheek" as we say here.
    being alone or one of a couple is the best policy, dont get me wrong, I've had friends, very good friends, but they are all city dwellers and I had to leave them behind when I left the city for good 25 years ago.
     
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  30. Old Geezer

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    Several of us live in agricultural regions. We are blessed with the smarts to get out of areas that will get stomped when things go sideways.

    The trick is to keep those urbanites who survive the devastation of the cities off of our turf post-SHTF. This concerns me because my household lies less than 200 miles away from urban sprawl areas. Desperate people and unimaginably mean people will be headed this way.

    Another concern of mine is that some of the people who have moved here will go nuts and engage in violence to feed their own families. We have long-distance commuters living in my county and many of these folk come from urban cultures. A fellow who just lives just up the road from me puts out pro-socialist yard signs during voting season. OK, I know that he is trouble; however, he sure isn't alone.

    Post-SHTF, a non-sharing behavior-set must be backed up with high velocity lead delivery devices. I so wish that this wasn't true. I'm too old and too lazy to have to deal with sh## people. Now that I've got me a beater-truck (long-bed 4x4), bugging-out to my home state will be so much easier. My sons have friends down there who you don't want to mess with and too, it's our culture down there. I'll be taking barter with me. This county in which we currently live is also my culture, but like I said, there's outsiders living here. Where I grew-up, outsiders will be in deep, deep trouble if they act-up. This will instantly happen. You can't fake an accent down there and you can't fake being one of the locals. You are or you are not local.
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  31. TMT Tactical

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    I am not overly worried about surviving urbanites but I do concern myself with the locals that are not prepared. I don't think the surviving urbanites will be able to cover the distance to my location. I am worried about the locals that have not prepared for it to hit the fan. Even semi good people will do horrible things to feed themselves or their families. No matter how remote a town or village is, they will have people that live day to day and will not have any preps to sustain them. When the food and water runs out, the vermin and sheeple will become desperate. Local government will not be able to help or protect their citizens. Only the people who are able to harden their hearts and defend their homes will be able to survive the coming collapse. I do not look forward to the hard times but I am able and willing to defend what is mine.
     
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  32. lonewolf

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    I'm not even concerned about city people, too far for them to walk.
    I live in a low population area and most of the population are older and many are elderly, I do not envisage any problems from them, most will die in their own beds in the dark and in the cold once the power grid collapses.
    the one of two shops in the small town will be empty fairly quickly as will the small filling station.
    many will leave if they can and go to adult children or parents houses.
     
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  33. Old Geezer

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    Ain't it a shame!

    We've all seen people go mean. Not pretty.

    Post SHTF, I'm gonna have to better control my temper (which is red-hot). People will make you mad just to lure you out. That's when their cousins beat you dead / shoot you dead.

    Plus, if your friends can't control their temper, they can get you hurt. Had this happen when out bar-hopping with a friend who was more of a hot-head than me. One time he was going to turn on me. Pick your friends wisely.

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      Very good advice. Due to my limited empathy, I do not associate with many people. Anybody that cannot control themselves are not welcome around me. Starving unprepared people will not win my sympathy. Anybody and everybody that poses a threat to me or mine, will be quickly dealt with.
       
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  34. lonewolf

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    I was always a bit of a loner due to my upbringing, dont get me wrong I can get on with most people but since covid I have become somewhat of a recluse- wife has remarked on it so it must be true!
     
  35. watcherchris

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    For me ...I am not only concerned with other two legged wildlife...run desperately amok....in hard times...even in good times..

    But also concerned with family members who I consider "High Maintenance."

    They will be looking for easy street with the proviso that someone else provide for and take the risks out of life for them...and their high maintenance ways ...fast food lane ways. They will become a huge liability...and bring very very little to the table.

    To me they will be little different from an Ishmaelite.

    But you members decide for yourselves.

    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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    1. TMT Tactical
      Unprepared family members fall into the same category as the general public. Sheeple and high maintenance family people will be left on their own to deal with their failures. My door will not be open to them.
       
      TMT Tactical, Dec 7, 2023
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  36. lonewolf

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    our family members (in-laws) are far enough away not to be a concern post SHTF, they are all sheeple so I dont expect them to survive for long once societal collapse occurs.
     
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  37. Old Geezer

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    More Leftist tripe

    "Knife Control"

    https://www.city-journal.org/article/rising-knife-attacks-in-the-u-k

    "While some British politicians tout the politically favorable claim that violent crime has fallen 38 percent since 2010, new data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) depicts a rather different and darker situation. The figures show that the number of people killed with knives in England and Wales in 2021 and 2022 was the highest since record-keeping began, 77 years ago. Across England and Wales, the number of knife offenses has increased by 34 percent since 2010. Now, 40 percent of all homicides involve a knife or sharp instrument.

    "A significant proportion of those killed are young. In 2021, the number of teenagers killed in London reached the highest level ever recorded. That year, in the capital, 30 people 13 and 19 years old were murdered, 27 of them killed with a knife. It’s the same story nationwide. According to ONS figures, in the 12-month period ending March 2022, 69 teenagers were murdered in England and Wales; knives or sharp instruments were used in 74 percent of all murders.

    "The case of Ghulam Sadiq is illustrative. Last August, the 17-year-old boy was stabbed to death outside his family’s home in Leytonstone, east London. He was attacked by 18-year-old Emadh Miah. During the trial, the Old Bailey jury heard how Miah had planned the entire event. He actively searched for Sadiq and waited for him to return home, having hidden a 22-inch-long machete in his trousers. When Miah found Sadiq, he chased him and eventually caught up with him. He then stabbed him in the back, inflicting a 6-inch wound and piercing Sadiq’s heart. He put the knife back in his waistband and cycled away, leaving Sadiq dying in the street.

    "Had the Conservative government banned the sale of machetes and so-called zombie-style knives—a long and often extravagant-looking bladed instrument made popular by zombie films—Sadiq might still be alive."


    Old Geezer: What bullsh## !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The following young fellow makes a machete in his or his dad's workshop. His beginning piece of metal was a lawnmower blade. Not only does he make a machete, he makes an elegant / very fine-looking machete. He didn't have to go through all this time and trouble. He didn't need all of these tools. All he needed was a grinding wheel and a robust file to turn a lawnmower blade (or a piece of scrap leaf-spring) into a make do / deadly machete.

    Ban files! Ban grinding wheels! Ban lawnmower blades! Ban leaf-springs. Ban flat pieces of metal!

    After these things are banned, black-market machetes, short-swords, katanas, ... are going to make some home garage machine-shop entrepreneurs some serious money.






    When using angle grinders/cutters and grinding wheels, always wear goggles. Last week, was using one to cut and grind-out a custom piece of steel to repair this old truck I bought. These puppies throw a rooster tail of fire. The sparks are glowing hot steel, OK. You don't want this hitting good clothing and you sure as dickens don't want this in your eyes. Don't have any flammables nearby, either. Cover-up and wear your goggles!

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      More good info, especially about safety concerns when using these shaping tools. I agree it is stupid and ineffectual to ban the items. Punish the criminals severely. Bring back the death penalty and watch the crimes drop.
       
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  38. lonewolf

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    The British public are too woke and too squemish to bring back the death penalty and who would want the job of hangman?
     
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    Someone would be willing to do it....just make the pay/salary commensurate with the task and or qualifications/requirements and you will get plenty of applicants.. You would need at least a primary and then a backup...and possibly a third as a backup.

    And keep the whorish pimping press away from them....and their families....that these people willing to do this type or work and their families not become political cannon fodder..but available to do the job.

    Until then things will go downhill ...fast...and eventually increasing in rapidity of falling into the toilet....exponentially.

    Same thing here in the USA....and I think the same 'Usual Suspects" are running this same crime/violence program here in the USA as in the UK and the continent....for and towards the same goals....destination.

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    someone MAY be willing to do it but I think the modern population would vote against its return.
    and its something that would need a public vote.
     
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    Death is the easy option, I'd rather they spend life in Prison, no parole, no phones, no internet, no visitors, no TV, no newspapers, no education and full castration to stop them having fun in the showers.
     
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    What I think would be handy is if that the current laws on the books were enforced. And when enforced, keep the prisoners in prison for at least 85% of their sentence. Use these decommissioned Air Force bases as prisons. Many have already been turned into prisons, but haven't been occupied. The Obama regime started turning bases into prisons to house conservative Americans who wouldn't kow-tow to Big Brother. Use them for actual felons.

    I'm sure England also has several decommissioned bases that could be used as prisons for the non-violent. Violent prisoners need to be strictly regimented. Hurt citizens and we'll really hurt you.
     
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    Few years ago I was talking to a friend of my dad about Cyprus, he'd served at RAF Akrotiri during Desert Storm. Turned out the base housed refugees while they were processed; he'd never met a more ungrateful bunch of moaning people in his life. They expected everything, demanded new bikes/colour TVs/games consoles and many left the houses in a filthy state. Some were sent back, most went to the UK.
     
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    we put them in 4 star hotels and they still complain.
    we should put them in holding camps like my uncles had to do when they emigrated (legally) to Canada.
    anyone who comes across the Channel in a small boat is committing an illegal act and should be sent back immediately.
     
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    Unlike the USSA, I believe England could get on top of the violent crime increase now while things haven't yet gone utterly upside-down (as in Amerika).

    The giant obstacle for England is getting voters to recognize that matters are getting out of hand and convince them that leftist policies end up with chaos such as seen in Amerikan cities. Gun laws have next to zero impact on criminal gangs as is witnessed in today's Sweden. 98% of all firearms used in felonies are obtained via illegal routes.

    In the U.S., more people are beaten to death than are killed with rifles and shotguns put together. This includes "assault" rifles. The death-count for bicycling exceeds 700/year. People all over the planet assault/kill others with whatever is closest to them, water pipes, hammers, bricks, kitchen knives, ... .

    If the English voters demand that immigration laws and violent crime laws be enforced such that those who do harm to others are kept off the street, then violent crime there will be massively reduced. You can't give violent teens a slap on the wrist and imagine that they will straighten out their lives. The parents of teens must also be held accountable if they allow the young adults in their care to go feral. Can't have that.
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    Data for property sales to Americans 2019-2022 are up 88% as more leave the USA for a better life in Spain. We live in sad times folks.
     
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    re Spain:

    Was watching a Hemingway novel put to screen. This filmed in France and Spain.

    When it hits the fan, the English-speaking ex-patriots will not be accepted around the Mediterranean.

    Can't blame the locals, really. They consider Brits and Americans arrogant. Same with the locals where I was raised -- outsiders have created hard feelings ... really hard feelings. Locals don't forget. Why should they!
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    we need as a country to stop sending all this aid money abroad, none of it gets to the people it was supposed to help anyway, that was as true in the 1970s as it is today.
    use the aid budget to build more prisons and make convicts do 100% of their sentence.
    any killers should get life- preferably the death sentence but I cant see that happening in the woke snowflake 21st century.
     
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    2 girls arrested for beating a Jewish woman unconscious in London, their ages? 13 and 14!! what is this country coming to? at 13 and 14 I was more interested in Cycling and Fishing not beating people up.
     
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    I suspected the girls have become brainwashed by the very loud anti-Semitism that is now present in society. There is simply no excuse for it.
     
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