A Covid Immunization Update

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  1. Old Geezer

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    All across the globe, the people are pushing-back against government dictates concerning covid prevention. Disease prevention is one thing. Sacred Liberty is another. Covid is bad, however it sure isn't killing one out of every ten healthy people. It's taking-out old gits like me and even then, the death-rates are low. This virus is much worse than your average flu outbreaks -- especially considering the covid virus damages blood vessels -- however, one does NOT shut down the economies of nations, one does not destroy personal liberties, one does not panic when such vicissitudes of life on Earth manifest themselves. Were the plague a hemorrhagic fever killing great swathes of humanity, then yes, drastic measures would be necessitated. Covid falls FAR short of such an apocalypse.

    Citizens of the USA should be most infuriated by the reality that their tax dollars paid for this man-made virus to be created in communist China -- a nation at war with the world. All government officials involved in this should be tried for sedition.

    https://peterlegyel.wordpress.com/2022/02/10/global-trucker-convoys-protest-mandates/
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  2. Old Geezer

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    Politically-correct scientists suppress science.

    https://www.wnd.com/2022/02/cdc-data-signaling-vaccine-catastrophe/

    "In 1976, after 32 deaths were attributed to the swine flu vaccine, the U.S. government halted the mass vaccination campaign.

    "But now, despite the VAERS database run by the CDC and the FDA reporting more than 23,000 deaths related to the COVID-19 vaccines, the messaging from establishment media and top health officials such as Dr. Rochelle Walensky and Dr. Anthony Fauci essentially is that no one has died or suffered severe adverse effects from the largest rollout of an experimental vaccine in world history."
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  3. watcherchris

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    I have been thinking that myself for some time now...that C19 was being used/misused as a money laundering scheme ..a way to get into the US Treasury and on the public Brreast ad infinitum...forever,,,


    I also think that there are other similar schemes...for ...forever financing...for power and or votes...forever....forever herding of the American People.....Cattle..being herded.

    Abortion.

    Climate Change...

    Among others.


    One crisis after another after another ....forever...

    You have to be kept afraid...ashamed or both...


    It is also becoming apparent that the US Government is not the only ones in on this money laundering scheme..other foreign governments too...Canada for prime example...and I think that there will be massive kickbacks to the political party apparatus....and thus the mid term elections may not go as many are predicting because of the huge amounts of monies flowing in the background because of this kickback scheme...from the public treasury.


    Remember what the word means..."Occult" Hidden ..concealed from the public view...and or understanding.


    This is what happens in a non Representative Government. Representing someone but not the people. Only "Appearing " To represent the public.

    When I was first learning about this pattern of operation years ago....it was called The Conspiracy and many of us were called Conspiracy Theorists.

    Today this kind of fallen corruption is called The Deep State...


    FDA Executive Officer on Hidden Camera Reveals Future COVID Policy: ‘Biden Wants To Inoculate As Many People As Possible…Have to Get an Annual Shot’ | Project Veritas


    But I am often wanting to call them Ishmaelittes....whos MO is to keep us into their Bondage/Control...forever...


    This is Ishmaelites at work with their hidden concealed/Occult form of leadership/government.

    Send that link on to people in your groups....more people need to become aware of this kind of scam..Fleecing of the US Treasury.


    My non Ishmaelite .02,

    Watcherchris
     
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  4. Old Geezer

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    " ... Occult form of leadership/government."

    Actually, this really is some sick form of religion. It is some sort of sect. It is decidedly anti-Christian, that's for sure. Adolf and his half-brained inner circle were into that sh##. It's not up for debate that the deep state hates Christians who will not take a knee to the government gods.

    Naomi Wolf is a liberal, nevertheless, she has confronted the sickness she has witnessed in government. Y'know, so even many liberals have had the satanic nature of Leftist dogma trigger their gag reflex (in those who still have their normal senses; most have lost their gag reflex; murdering babies in the womb is about as sick as it gets).

    https://www.tfp.org/confronting-the...ers-of-darkness-with-the-faith-of-naomi-wolf/

    Collectivist Wikipedia has gone after her. That speaks volumes as to her ability to have a righteous heart.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wolf
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  5. watcherchris

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    It is indeed a form of religion ...a sect ..but mostly hidden and concealed from the average television and or movie trained American. And yes..indeed...government has bought into it big time because they sense this kind or pattern of thinking, or non-thinking if you will...will buy votes...will control votes...no thinking required....only emoting.

    And this fits in well with what we see going on around us....with increasing vigor...fear...scare tactics...intimidation...herding.

    This Current government and also the one in Canada...is representing someone or something with Marxist Control techniques across the board.....Marxist.....Herding and not protecting people's liberties and or freedoms....including religious freedoms.
    Going after people's private property in order to herd them is how Marxist, dictators work. Administrative dictatorship and we see this current Administration moving more and more in this direction...administrative judgement..not court decisions...jury of peers.

    They are attempting to substitute another devout and Zealous religion for our Judeo-Christian heritage..and betting most Americans would not know the history of Marxism.....from the Internationale unto today. And the would be very very correct in a nation of primarily television and or movie educated people.


    As to Naomi Wolf....she has discovered something very ominous about the system but needs to take it further...

    On Wiki....she, like alot of feminists, spends too much time on female sexuality. This is their drug...their religion.

    And they intend to hold the rest of the country hostage to their sexuality...needs and or demands.

    Abortion is buying the women's vote. Have all the abortions you want but not on the public purse. America and Americans do not need to be subsidizing someone else's sex life for votes. This issue is bending the American Taxpayer over the table without any foreplay...literally and spiritually. And furthermore ...in true concealed occult matter ...Americans are not being told the whole story....that they are using/misusing the issue to buy votes. Leadership in this country does not care as long as they can use/misuse abortion to buy votes.

    You can tell this because in years past ...you could not run for dog catcher without declaring your views on abortion.

    Abortion became the litmus test for all public offices....in like manner as is Racism is being so manipulated today.


    To me if women want equality....they need to bring something to the table more than their sexuality. Much much more...


    I do not agree with the feminists using/misusing their sex and sexuality at the table to browbeat the rest of the country.....into ceding to them...as is being done today with Racism/CRT.

    Ishmaelites run wild...


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  6. Old Geezer

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  7. lonewolf

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    4th jab for the over 75s and "vulnerable" due to take place in the UK within weeks.
    thats on top of jabbing the over 5s.
     
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  8. Max rigger

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    I'll try and explain it in simple terms again. The vaccine won't always stop you being infected but it fortifies your immune system giving it a much better chance of preventing infection and or fighting it once infected. Hope that clears things up again for you.

    Forth jabs being considered for people who are mmunocompromised, this makes absolute sense.
     
  9. lonewolf

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    Traditional vaccines are to stop the person innoculated getting the disease the jab is for, this has been the case for most of my childhood and adult life, if one can still get it and pass it on then the vaccine has failed.
    this "its to protect everyone" is a load of crap.
     
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  10. Old Geezer

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    Even oligarch Bill Gates finally admitted that getting the omicron version of covid is the only true vaccine.

    The jabs people have been forced to get are only genetic machines that turn one's body into a spike-protein manufacturing site. Pretty bad when the inventor of mRNA (Dr. Robert Malone) technology condemns the practice of everyone getting his creation.

    An experimental agent is NOT something to be tested on the general population. I guess if we had a true killer such as a hemorrhagic disease, then we should kick out the stops and go full bore against such a demon. Omicron has a kill rate double that of most viruses that cause the flu. Unlike the flu however, omicron kills primarily the old, smokers, the obese, and those with multiple co-morbidities. Regular flu viruses kill as many little kids as they do old people. Witness the flu pandemic of 1957; it killed almost a million children. The world was made to deal with it, but governments did NOT panic as they have now.

    https://www.encyclopedia.com/media/educational-magazines/influenza-pandemic-1957

    "The 1957 influenza pandemic was the second-greatest influenza pandemic in the twentieth century. It killed approximately one to two million people worldwide, including about 70,000 in the United States. The first influenza pandemic of the twentieth century, in 1918– 19, killed between 20 and 100 million people worldwide and about 675,000 in the United States; the third, in 1968, killed about 700,000 people worldwide and 34,000 in the United States."
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  11. Max rigger

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    How has it failed when so many lives have been saved by taking it ? No vaccine is 100% at stopping you getting ill and most wane after a time, go look that up and tell me if you think covid vaccine has been a failure.
     
  12. lonewolf

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    thats the official speak they would have you all swallow.
    a vaccine that dosent stop someone catching the disease for which it is designed and dosent stop them passing it on to others, is a failed vaccine, and whoever heard of having 3, 4 or even 5 doses of the same vaccine, obviously a failed procedure.
    but those that have been brainwashed by TPTB will never see this.
     
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  13. lonewolf

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    Today is "Freedom Day" in the UK when all Covid restrictions are lifted and we get back to some semblance of normality although some of us will still be wearing masks in indoor retail spaces and socially distancing for some time to come, the restrictions may have gone but Covid has not.
    this has now gone from a Pandemic to being ENDEMIC in the UK.
    personal choice and common sense is now the order of the day but dont expect any of that from the masses. common sense is no longer common in the modern population.
     
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  14. Old Geezer

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    https://chrisbray.substack.com/p/military-deaths-need-closer-examination

    "A young infantry sergeant died at Fort Carson on Wednesday morning. I’m told, secondhand through a retired NCO with family on the post, that he had a heart attack during physical training. A public affairs officer at Fort Carson confirms the death, but was unable to provide details regarding the cause and circumstances: 'Unfortunately, I can’t provide any further information as the investigation is still ongoing.' I know the soldier’s name, but don’t want to use it here while his family is mourning a very recent loss.

    "Lots of fit, athletic young men dying these days. Lots of unexplained deaths.

    "If anyone knows more, or knows of other recent military deaths, I’d like to try to develop more information about this death and others. To state the obvious, I suspect that the Covid “vaccine” mandate is killing servicemembers, but can’t prove it yet.

    "Back in January, I asked the Defense Health Agency — Immunization Healthcare Division how many servicemembers had suffered post-mRNA heart problems. They referred me to an article that put the number at eight. Good luck with that."
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  15. watcherchris

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    All the military have been forced to take the vaccine.....and I have been hearing that this is happening not just among the military people but also among young people as well....across this nation...these side effects.

    Ishmaelites run wild..


    Watcherchris,

    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  16. lonewolf

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    4th and 5th jabs are being offered to over 50's here this fall.
    I dont get it, if you need this many jabs surely this proves it dosent work? I have never heard of needing 4 or 5 jabs for something before.
    I've only ever had one jab for other stuff, an annual one for flu, this many jabs for the same thing is unpresidented , I think someone is making a lot of money out of all this, I've never been much of a conspiracy theorist but I think something is rotten here.
     
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  17. arctic bill

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    you do not remember polio vaccine in the 50 and 60 , i remember several shots and then a cherry flavoured syrup .
     
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    I remember the polio vaccination.
     
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  19. Max rigger

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    It does work but needs boosters and in fact most vaccines in an ongoing pandemic would as well as the virus mutates, the vaccine needs tweaking to fight it...and the idiot who started this 'vaccine killing our troops'
    Scheisse should be put against a wall and shot, I'll pull the trigger.

    PS line up the idiots who believe it too and give me a machine gun and I'll do them all in one go.
     
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  20. Old Geezer

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    Che Maxevara needs to kill a bunch of researchers also.

    "Multiple Sclerosis Relapse Following COVID-19 Vaccination: A Case Report and Literature Review"

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35198286/

    "Severe disease exacerbation after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination unmasks suspected multiple sclerosis as neuromyelitis optica spectrum disorder: a case report"

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35585528/

    "Covid-19: Regulators warn that rare Guillain-Barré cases may link to J&J and AstraZeneca vaccines"

    https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n1786/rr-0

    "Myocarditis and Pericarditis following COVID-19 Vaccination: Inequalities in Age and Vaccine Types"

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34834458/

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  21. lonewolf

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    yep, nice!! Not!
    there are several legal cases going on at the moment due to the vaccine reactions.
    so its not so cut and dried as some think.
    many people have had 3 jabs but say "no more".
     
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  22. Old Geezer

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    I myself have had two jabs before the dictates were made null and void. I'm not the same person. God government put one through the middle of me. What is left will stand and fight. My old certifications as handgun and rifle instructor may have lapsed, but I haven't. Fight to the death. I will instruct and enable the youth who respect sacred Liberty. In my youth, I taught I don't know how many (some got their Expert's badge, hurrah!). Hopefully before I meet my ancestors, I will be able to train more to fight the godless collectivists.

    "‘She lost everything’: California mom severely disabled after Pfizer shot now homeless"


    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/s...rely-disabled-after-pfizer-shot-now-homeless/

    "With pharmaceutical corporations immune from liability, and state agencies halting disability support, former real estate professional Jenny Porter finds herself chronically disabled and homeless, but you can help."

    "Two days following a Pfizer experimental COVID-19 vaccine injection last August, Jenny Porter, a very healthy real estate professional and single mother of three children, became 'horrifically ill' experiencing 'non-stop excruciating pain' while losing her ability to walk, sit, and sometimes even move.

    "As a result, she remains unable to work, has been alienated from her children, and despite the generous efforts of a network of loyal friends over many months, is now residing in a southern California homeless shelter.

    “'She’s the all-American girl who did what was right, and she lost everything,' explained Brenda Maingot in a telephone interview with LifeSiteNews. Maingot and her husband Gary, close friends of Porter for 27 years, cared for her in their home for an extended period of time following her injury.

    "An education specialist from Marietta, Maingot described her friend Jenny as 'stunningly beautiful, always active, always exercising. She was like the PTA soccer mom at her kids’ school… just the epitome of health.'

    “'In August, after the vaccine, she was unrecognizable,' he told LifeSiteNews. 'She was oftentimes carried in [the office] as she couldn’t walk in on her own… her whole body just completely blew up in an inflammatory state. Her eyes were puffed in, her cheeks were full, her legs were swollen.'

    “'It’s like Jekyll and Hyde, it’s a tale of two different women from where she used to be [before the shot] to where she is now,' Rundle lamented.

    "In a June interview with Broken Truth, Porter explained that her doctor of almost 20 years had diagnosed her with Multi-System Inflammatory Syndrome (MIS) as a result of the Pfizer injection.

    "MIS is 'an autoimmune-type inflammatory disease which attacks your organs, your tissues, your muscles. It also activated old sports injuries. It activated arthritis. It damaged my spine and bulged discs in my lumbar. We also believe it bulged discs in my neck,' she explained.

    In addition, Porter experienced cognitive and reproductive issues, with “multiple allergies” being activated and “severe nerve pain.”

    “The spasms I would have, from about my sternum down, felt like I was having labor contractions in my muscles. Like the most insane Charley horse you can imagine,” Porter told LifeSiteNews in a telephone interview.

    "As her industry strove to reopen last year following COVID shutdowns, Porter said she 'felt a lot of pressure' to get the injection to ensure others around her felt comfortable, for to do otherwise might make it difficult for her to make a living.

    “'I was trying to do something that I thought would make everyone else feel safe around me,” she said. “And shame on me because I shouldn’t have made a decision out of fear like that, but I did, because I didn’t think I could handle the loss of income for me and my kids.'

    "Yet not only have governments provided legal immunity to Pfizer and other 'vaccine' manufacturers for adverse reactions to their products – despite their disturbing track record of criminal and civil liability – but employers cannot be held liable for exerting any such soft coercion upon their employees either.

    “'One of the reasons it’s so difficult to get well is because the doctors we should be able to go to, can’t help us or they will lose their license,' she explained."

    "In May, a group of 17,000 physicians and medical scientists, calling themselves the Global Covid Summit (GCS), issued a ten point declaration demanding 'the [COVID] state of medical emergency must be lifted, scientific integrity restored, and crimes against humanity addressed.'

    "Their sixth principle called attention to the medical establishment’s abandonment of the many thousands of patients like Jenny who have been inflicted with what they call 'Post COVID vaccine syndrome.' This point declares that 'funding and research must be established for vaccination damage, death and suffering.'

    "The GCS goes on to indicate that individuals within 'a corrupt medical alliance of pharmaceutical, insurance, and healthcare institutions,” along with government agencies, big tech and media corporations must be investigated 'and accountability must be had for those who have committed [these] crimes against humanity.'”
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  23. TexDanm

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    It seems to be some sort of strange part of humanity that ANYTHING new is going to be bad and dangerous. I remember the introduction of the polio vaccine. I knew people that pulled their kids out of public schools rather than allow them to be "poisonous" forced vaccine.

    I remember polio. The elementary school that I went to was built to be totally accessible to kids that were hardly able to walk. All the halls had grab bars on both sides of the halls and all of the bathrooms were made with wide stalls and grab bars. This was before such things were common and so we got all of the polio kids in the district sent to that school. One of the three wings was totally dedicated to the special needs kids of all kinds especially polio victums.

    There were people that pulled their kids because they feared that some how their kids might be infected. Ignorance is mankinds deadliest plague and it seems that no mater what the level of out science the ignorance only grows. If the curent civilization falls within a couple of decades we will be at a level lower than we were at in the 16th century!! We no longer have the beasts of burdin or the people to make harnesses for them. In general we will go all the way back to human power only for several generations.

    Horses can only be bred once a year so they are not fast reproducers. Another problem is that the larger breeds are not as common as the smaller lighter riding breeds. Even though I live in a place with lots of horses I doubt that there is one horse for every 50 people even out in the rural areas. Also none of those horses, or at least VERY few, are harness horses. The things that make a saddle horses a pleasure to ride would make them a really poor choice for plowing fields.
     
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  24. lonewolf

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    there are said to be 5 million unjabbed people in the UK, that is probably an underestimate, its probably more like double that. the trouble is if we just all line up like little Borg they could inject us with anything, there is already news of injecting people in the arm with their card details so they just wave at the card reading machine, talk about lazy! but where does it end. personally I've always been different/alternative and a bit of a rebel (thats not why I havent had the jab btw ( I just dont trust the so called "science") and I will continue to make up my own mind and not be forced into something against my will (my body/my choice).
     
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  25. TexDanm

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    I don't think that people should be forced to take the jab...but if you don't you better have a lot of money or great insurance. Plan B is let them die if they have it so bad that they can't survive it. I don't think that I should have to pay for someone's decission not to take the vaccine. The truth is that the number of people that die that have had BAD reactions to the vaccine is a tiny number compared to the people that catch it and didn't have the vaccine. This is true of all vaccines.

    This is actually a sort of iffy thing. Covid isn't especially deadly if you are a young healthy person. I took it because I am older and have several other health issues that might make it hard for me to deal with it if I caught it. I had no reaction to the vaccine at all. Some of the vaccines in the past have been somewhat troublesome for me with aches and slight pain in my arm for a day or two.
     
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  26. lonewolf

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    I disagree, I believe the vaccine is worse than Covid, Covid can kill someone but only if they have an underlying health condition and thats mostly confined to older people who will die soon enough anyway.
    in the UK they are attempting to jab kids as young as 5 who according to their own blurb are unlikely to get it and wont suffer if they do. the most recent variant is less toxic than the common cold or so they say. I believe the whole thing is highly suspicious.
     
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  27. TexDanm

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    Here, they wouldn't let my Granddaughter have it because at 10 she was too young. ??? I added to my post before I read your post so if it seems off that is why. In my case my kidneys are gone and I am only alive for as long as I do dialisis to clean my blood and remove the excess fluids.
     
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  28. lonewolf

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    I'm really sorry to hear your on dialysis Tex, I am lucky in that I enjoy good health with only a few odd arthritic aches which are cured by our early morning daily country walks.
    I've seen people 20 years younger (or more )than me in worse health , this is a country with an Obesity crisis and many wont live to draw their pension. I've already outlived 3 fathers in law who all died in their mid 50s or younger.
     
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    I'm sort of big but not unhealthy big. I'm 6'2" and weigh about 215. As long as I do the dialysis I feel great. It was a relief when I got on it because honestly I thought that I was dying. My body was poisonng itself and not filtering my blood at all. I felt like crud!

    I do the dialisis at home now. My wife learned how to do it and so it isn't too bad. I sit for 3 or 4 hours in a lazy boy recliner, watch TV, read, and/or take a nap. I don't sleep much at night anymore. It is more like I take a couple of naps a day. It actually only amounts to about 16 hours a week that I am on the machine and beats the hell out of the alternitive.
     
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  30. Max rigger

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    Family friend was on dialysis for a number of years and lived to a good age, diet and fluid restrictions were not welcome but it beats dying. She was on the donar list but not enough people leave organs for use after death so was never tissue matched for a transplant. No cost for her treatment or if she'd had a transplant thanks the the NHS / universal health care.

    Carry a donar card folks, its not just heart, liver and kidney's that can be used to help others and you don't need it after you pop your clogs.

    Lot of heat waves on the planet since covid vaccination started...makes you wonder....just saying.
     
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  31. Old Geezer

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    Sorry, dude! Are you looking to have a transplant?

    The availability of organs for transplant varies with the region of the country.

    Sometimes, a person in a family will donate one of their two good kidneys.

    Dialysis machines have changed RADICALLY over the years. Back in the 1970's our Advanced Human Physiology class visited our local center which had eight dialysis machines. (God's blessings be on our professor's soul; he was quick with a joke and a superb teacher; very strict, but those were the days.) The filtration systems back then were almost as tall (but not as thick) as a refrigerator. They were not portable. Now the systems are small and as you said, your wife can readily operate the equipment. Filtration quality and efficiency has improved massively. Back when, we didn't have the pharmaceuticals available today. Physicians can select from numerous medications that boost the manufacture of red blood cells in one's bone marrow (erythropoietin-stimulating drugs). That wasn't true back then and many patients went very anemic. Your kidneys control your red blood cell count and also do a lot to adjust blood pressure.

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  32. TexDanm

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    I'm not interested in a transplant. I would hate to take a kidney that someone younger might have gotten. I'm not too bothered by the dialisis. My wife does it for me and I just use the time to either read, watch TV or as often as not, take a nap. The men in my familly are not very long lived. Most in the past died well before they were 70. Were it not for modren medicine I would be gone already. Maybe if I thought that I was going to live into my 90s I would feel differently.

    I have no fear of death. I'm not sure that for a lot of people these days it is as much a curse as a blessing. I watched an Uncle lie in a nursing home for almost 15 years. He was in and out of the hospital and I honestly can't imagine a more miserable life to have to live. As long as I am strong and can go and do I will live but when my life becomes a burden I will have o problem calling it quits and refusing treatment.

    Right now life is good. I have my kids and Danni my Granddaughter living next door and thorouly enjoy her in a way that I didn't get to enjoy my Daughter. Those were tough years and I worked at night and wasn't able to partisipate in a lot of things like going to open house at her school or spending a lot of time with her at all Monday through Friday. She was in bed when I got home after midnight and up and gone to school or daycare when I got up.

    I fish, watch TV, mess around in my two shops and pretty much do whatever I want to do. I paid off most of my debts before I retired. My house is paid for as are my three vehicles and boat.
     
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    I think that if I had to say what I and glad of is the simple fact that I have simple tastes and few desires for expensive things. For most of my life I have paid cash for my cars and trucks. I finally let my wife go and buy whatever she wanted new. That way I got to enjoy her pleasure instead of her buying one as soon as I was dead. I like my old trucks. They are dependable as the next sunrise and though they don't get the best gas milage I figure that I can burn a LOT of gas before I cover the price of a new vehickle that gets better milage. I seriously doubt that I would live long enough to actually come out ahead and I LIKE my old trucks. Not having a car note has made it so that I had more money for the other things in life that we enjoy.
     
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    Just a pondering thought on the governments insistence that everyone get their concoction pumped into their bodies , even though it is obvious it does nothing to stop or reduce the Chinese biological offensive . Simultaneously they are trying to get people " even our children " to become Homos . Is this the real reason for the drug they want injected into people , to turn them into homos ? The planet has certainly seen a huge increase in the amount of perverts walking about since the injections started .
     
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    I dont think being gay has anything to do with the jabs, thats just the way civilisation is going these days.
     
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    You lost me on the part about the gov trying to turn people into homos????
     
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    I dont think they need to try very hard, it looks like thats the natural state in most big cities these days.
     
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    The number of homosexuals has not changed period. All that has changed is that those that are gay nolonger have to hide it to survive. My personal openion about gays when I was younger was simple. I was all for them and wished that more would come out. I was more than willing to try to take up the slack and handle more than my share of the ladies that were left without enough attention.

    I have over the many years had several gay friends. I've never understood the fear that some men seem to have for them. In general they have no intrest in straight guys. As one of my friends told me, "Getting beat half to death is NOT a gay desire and that is what can happen if you were stupid enough to act inapropriatly with a straight dude."
     
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    A member of the EU parliament (M.E.P.) labels covid vaccine COERCION " The Worst CRIME ever committed on Humanity".
    you can find it on https://preppersdailynews.com
     
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    There is just something about homosexual pedophiles preying upon children that makes me angry . I will always stand up to protect children and will never defend a pedophile . If that makes me the bad guy so be it . I know some will want to deny homos have a extremely high pedophile population , but that still will not change reality . Their old quote " 8 is too late " . This has been verified as to their now attention to recruiting kindergarteners .
     
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    I think someone can be a pedophile without being gay, take the "grooming gangs" in the Oldham and Rochdale areas of Northern England, I have never heard any mention of them being homosexual, their victims whilst not young children were certainly under the age of consent.
     
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    Statistics on little boys being sexually abused showed that 40% of the convicted perpetrators self-described as homosexual. This leaves 60% who do not consider themselves homosexual.

    If a man is aroused by male children, then let's face it, he is a pervert.
     
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      Oh, in the news. The gay community is demanding greater access to the monkey pox vaccine.

      Some health authorities are attempting to advise homosexual men to decrease the number of sex partners they have; however, these authorities have to watch out for condemnation from the politically correct social machinery. It is now forbidden to question the sanctity of sodomy.
       
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    no argument with that.
     
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    Guys while the above posts are very interesting an one very revealing , we need to get back on topic . Through the passage of time it has been revealed the lock downs , mask wearing and the government's shots did nothing to slow down or prevent Covid . Other things have likely not been fully revealed yet as to the results of altering body structures through the vaccines . Again through the passage of time this to will be revealed .
     
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    Do you think that it will be revealed, or do you hope that vaccinated people will die?

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      The results of taking the vaccine will be revealed in the future . No I am not hoping the vaccinated will die . Actually though I think my above post may have been misunderstood .
       
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    The vaccine time bomb, when do scientists who've discovered these delayed mutagenic / fatal mechanisms think that they will begin sickening and killing masses of people? Are you aware of the mechanisms by which the vaccines kill?

    Please share.
     
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    Statistics on little girls being sexually abused show that almost 100% are hetrosexual men. People that mess with kids are just sorry sick people. If you are not homosexual you don't have a sexual intrest in young males. They are just lying to themselves and everyone else about their sexual proclivities.
     
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    This panicked response is not going to change the outcome of submitting to the government and their instructions of taking the concoction into their veins . Good or bad results will be for those that took the shot , their future to live with . Attacking the pureblooded will not change the outcome of those that altered their bodies . As for myself I remain pureblooded and as for as I know have never had the Covid . I have no desire to try to belittle or call names of those that do not agree with my decision . I don't need group assurance that I did the right thing .
     
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      That wasn't a panicked attack. It was a vulgar arrogant attack.
       
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    All vaccines change the body chemistry. That is what they are suposed to do. Vaccines have changed the world. At least in the first world countries we don't regularly have epedimics that wipe out a huge numer of its citizens every few years.
     
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    most of the public out there seem to think Covid is over, it isnt, it hasnt gone away, there are still many cases of it in the UK. I havent had the shots and will not have the shots no matter what TPTB do, I have not had Covid because I take precautions, wife has had 2 shots of the "vaccine" but when they talk in the media about 3rd and 4th shots this Autumn/Fall and Winter she like many others says "no more", its just getting silly now.
    3,4,5 shots of the same thing? when has that ever happened before? makes one very suspicious that there is an ulterior motive behind this innoculation of the masses. long terms affects are still untested and unknown.
     
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