Brits' Nhs To Vaccinate 1 Million A Week

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  1. Pragmatist

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  2. lonewolf

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    if it sounds too good to be true it usually is!!
    I'm not holding my breath. its only about 90% effective anyway even if its that.
     
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    I'm more surprise seeing that printed newspaper is still a prominent thing in UK
     
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  4. Max rigger

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    Higher than that LW and by the looks of it will work out well over 90% effective so yes its fantastic news. The NHS is gearing up to work 7 days a week inoculating. If your over 70 then you could have your two jabs before New Year :)

    A mammoth task not helped by needing -70c or less storage but we'll get there so you'll be able to get out and about more in a handful of months.
     
  5. TMT Tactical

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    Call me AFTER a few million have had the jab and enough time for the side effects to kick in. Not going to become a lab rat to make some other feel good.
     
  6. Max rigger

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    The anti covid vaxers will only help keep the virus alive and kicking. I think in Europe some countries will bar entry to anyone not vaccinated which I agree with. In the UK you can't force anyone to have the jab, personally if they don't I'd deny them free NHS healthcare but that won't happen.

    Different in the USA. What happens when you go to renew your healthcare insurance and have refused the vaccine?
     
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    Private insurance, nothing happens. Not required to take any medication we don't want. Not a sheeple nation.
     
  8. lonewolf

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    exactly my feelings too.
    they are all jabbering about a vaccine before Christmas but I think it will be later than that, it hasnt even been certified safe yet.
     
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  9. Max rigger

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    You do realise the the equivalent of years of research has been packed in a few months don't you? Your over 65 so do you want to be stuck in your house for more months because your in the high risk group with a high chance of popping your socks if you catch it.

    But if your OK living indoors and not having the freedom to get out of the house then stay hunkered down without the jab. If you want to regain mobility and freedom take the jab...your choice. Personally I think anyone turning the jab down is an idiot and a prime Darwin candidate.
     
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  10. lonewolf

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    "years of research in a few months" exactly, its been rushed, anything like this takes about 10 years normally, I dont say I wont have it but I want a lot of people to take it first to prove its safe before I do, and I'm talking many thousands even a million or so.
    I'm not a sheeple, I dont always do what I'm told to by big brother, I have a brain and can make my own mind up!
    I'm VERY happy staying home, I'm a recluse and I dont like other people, so it would make no difference to my lifestyle.
    you dont speak for me so mind your own business.
     
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    1. Ystranc
      Scientists have been researching different types of Corona virus for decades. the three vaccines that are currently being submitted for approval are the result of millions being spent and almost universal co-operation amongst researchers. These vaccines come off of the back of thousands of hours of research.
      In my younger days I travelled and worked all over. I had to be vaccinated against all sorts of bugs, I for one will be very happy to get my shots just as soon as I can.
       
      Ystranc, Nov 24, 2020
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    The same scientist that will claim it is safe are also the same people that could not even agree on the benefit or lack of benefit for masks. I will pass on taking "BIG BROTHER'S" word for it's safety. Since I do live in a free nation, I won't have to stay locked up. The Socialist / Liberals have not taken complete control of my country yet.
     
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    Chinacovid vaccine has some "unpleasant" side effects.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-may-unpleasant-100438136.html

    "The vaccine, and likely most others, will require two doses to work, injections that must be given weeks apart, company protocols show. Scientists anticipate that the shots will cause enervating flu-like side effects — including sore arms, muscle aches and fever — that could last days and temporarily sideline some people from work or school. And even if a vaccine proves 90 percent effective, the rate Pfizer touted for its product, 1 in 10 recipients would still be vulnerable. That means, at least in the short term, as population-level immunity grows, people can't stop social distancing and throw away their masks."

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    To weaken or destroy the strength or vitality of: "the luxury which enervates and destroys nations" (Henry David Thoreau).
    2. Medicine To remove a nerve or part of a nerve.
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  13. Max rigger

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    On this occasion you are a classic sheeple, forming an ill informed view/decision based on no facts, just the mutterings of others who also know nothing in real terms. As a free thinking individual I'm quite shocked you adopted this stance. That said, as a 'lone wolf' you'll have no problems been pretty much housebound for the foreseeable future. Use that brain you talk about or remain in the sheeple flock.
     
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  14. Old Geezer

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    Exactly who or what is this Max Prepper Imposter? What age is it? Is there no internal governance function within its circuitry?

    Whatever differences of opinion among ourselves, the members of this site, exist, the reality is that we disagree or agree, present evidence, occasionally become frustrated with each other, ..., then somehow pick another topic and go on from there. Welcome to the species.

    Now this infantile being has regurgitated on the dinner table yet again. Physical colic is one thing. Spiritual colic is yet another. One is transient, the other perpetual. The aroma is odious.

    The vulgar insult that just stained this site is directed towards one of our members by the perpetrator. Can this individual not fathom the reality of this being an attack on all members? I felt insulted myself, personally so, mightily so.

    The Max Problem here is that the individual is perpetually given to reflexively spewing out the ad hominem argument. Such betrays attributes unwanted in any forum. He is not a prepper and I really do not know to which group he would belong, yet let us say that this individual finds a crew whose belief set matches his own. I would in no way be astounded were I to learn that they too quickly tired of his outbursts.

    I most certainly could not endure any apology emanating from this shallow interloper were it capable of such. I just wish it would wander off somewhere, anywhere. There is no science in reexamining the mundane, the crude, that which takes up space and which all too often releases fecal odors.
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  15. varuna

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    Max which vaccine will be use for in this UK vaccination. And which demographic will receive priority?

    Where I live, since we here currently very tight in money (economic recession) so only 60 million is commission for initial batch using Sinovac vaccine scheduled for third week of December. Priority is given for tuberculosis patient, health care worker, and first responder. All vaccines are available commercially when they are ready.
     
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    1. Ystranc
      The UK will be using all of the three vaccines Varuna. the majority will receive the Oxford vaccine because it is easier to store and transport. Health workers and the most vulnerable (old or sick) are to be prioritised.
      Developed nations have also invested in a fund that will allow less developed nations greater access to vaccination programs for the long term benefit of everybody.
       
      Ystranc, Nov 24, 2020
  16. TMT Tactical

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    I too find Max-ine comment to be offensive in their wording. A difference in opinion is one thing, insulting members is another. Max is has one foot out the door due to past insults and appears to be sliding the other foot towards the exit.
     
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    What is this with the so called American conservative folks getting "sensitive" all the sudden? I saw it everywhere on the internet. Its no difference with what you guys call "leftist" who ban / kick everyone simply for disagreeing.
     
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    Hey, I hate the word Sheeple, never use it but its popular on this forum so as its a word commonly understood...I used it and stand by what I said.

    Refuse the vaccine and your an idiot in my humble opinion. I'm allowed an opinion and can voice it; I really don't care if it offends anyone here, sugar, I get deeply offended by some of the moronic stuff in some threads but don't bang on about it.


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      I wish this site would let me use emoji... :rofl
       
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    "Refuse the vaccine and your an idiot in my humble opinion. I'm allowed an opinion and can voice it; I really don't care if it offends anyone here, sugar, I get deeply offended by some of the moronic stuff in some threads but don't bang on about it."

    It isn't "your" it is "you're", you idiot.

    "... in my humble opinion." You have no humble opinions.

    "I really don't care if it offends anyone here, sugar, ..." "sugar"? Perchance a Freudian slip?

    "... but don't bang on about it." Perchance another Freudian slip?

    But since you've lost your wife, maybe you do have to "bang on about it." Adolescent personality types cannot form long term relationships. My wife and I have been to together for over 40 years -- this is because we are what are generally referred to as "grownups". Maxi, you do not have the maturity that sane, clean women expect in a man; apparently you do not meet the "man" criteria for women.

    If nasty, vulgar, inferior language is now permitted on this site, then I get to respond in kind. I guess Maxipad here is going to be allowed to morph this site however he wishes. Right?

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    many chemicals that were declared safe for the public have later been proven to have terrible consequences . Sometimes it is years before some horrible result is detected . No thanks , I will not be a test pig , I will let the gullible step up and take the shot . For all we know it might make testicals shrivel up and sexual preference change . If that happens a real man will be in high demand .
     
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    I don't think that would have any effect on one member, got to have them to shrink them.
     
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    differences of opinion are allowed on this forum even welcomed, personal abuse no matter who it is aimed at is not. the perpetrator of this abuse has had several warnings to this effect but still he persists, as if his opinion is the only one that counts, he is also wrong.
    a vaccine- one still dosent exist in the UK for public use- has to be proven to be safe, only an idiot or a sheeple would take something that has not been proved to be safe, the govt saying it is safe is not a guarantee, anyone remember Thalidomide???
    care homes and front line medical staff will get the vaccine first, then the over 80s, it will slowly make its way down through the age range, thats if they can make enough of it, the annual flu jab usually runs out half way through so again thats not a guarantee everyone will get one.
    at least we still live in a country where personal choice is still allowed.
     
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    Thalidomide? Yes, awful but we learnt a lot about testing from that experience and is being done with the C19 vaccine. A vaccine (more than one actually) do exist and are waiting to be signed off for distribution to the public.

    The sheeple will deny the vaccine, the sheeple thrive on their own fear, they need to man up and take the jab when its offered if not all they'll do is prolong the pandemic. Shame on them.
     
  24. Old Geezer

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    God government knows what is best for the masses.
     
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    Max after you take the vaccine , wait about a year and let us preppers know how you came out . such as any twitches you might develop , physical shrinkages in any areas , irritability ,walking funny and such .
     
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    I know the govt keep on talking about a vaccine by Christmas but I think we should take it with a pinch of salt, never take for granted anything a government says, I see POTUS remarked about an American vaccine available by April so I dont think a British one will be available to the general public before that, by the time they innoculate the care home staff and residents, then front line medical staff, then they over 80s and the over 75s it will be later in the year before its available to us mere mortals.
     
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      Very true LW, these things all take time. for the most part governments have been quite measured in what they've said. It tends to be the media that blows things out of proportion in search of the next sensational scoop.
       
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    I'll be fine as will the others who take the jab. Shrinkage? to be honest the ex-wife did mention reduction surgery in the past because I'm pretty well developed and things could become uncomfortable after an hour or two but I never went down that route.
     
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    I do find it strange that some people actually believe what the government (any govt) says, politicians are all liars, and we really have to be careful about what they say is proof.
     
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    you aint wrong there.
    some actually believe in fairy stories "the govt will save me"!
     
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    The government will save itself first; from time to time a byproduct of their salvation is a helping hand to the rest of us.

    Boris is sinking fast, he's lost two of his henchmen, the public hate him, Joe Biden and the Democrats don't like him so I think his days are numbered. If I was a gambling man I'd bet on Rishi Sunak taking over, ivy league educated in the States, good head on his shoulders...I still don't like him a lot but he's the best of a bad bunch.
     
  32. Old Geezer

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    The future rulers of Great Britain:

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  33. lonewolf

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    I reckon Boris is only there to "get Brexit done", once the 1/1/2021 is over and passed I think he will probably move on, being Prime Minister is not a life time job-far from it.
     
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    No, we don't use horses in battle anymore, we've even got electricity these days.

    What you fail to grasp Old Man is that being British does not come down to the colour of your skin.

    Your racism shone through on that last post, really showed the real you...no offense meant :)
     
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    maybe in a few more decades when they have bred enough soldiers but at the moment the numbers are low.
     
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      Careful LW The BNP side of you is beginning to show
       
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  36. lonewolf

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    Governments main function is taxation, the UK govt havent really made any serious laws for 45 years, its job was to rubber stamp the rubbish coming out of the EU, power limits on carpet sweepers and LED light bulbs.
    only the left hate Boris but they hate the Tory party anyway.
     
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      Actually no Paul..I've always disliked Boris. As a lifelong conservative voter I could not vote for him in the last general election. He lacks morals,he lack character, he lacks the spine to do what is right and is fundamentally untrustworthy.........when brexit is done I really hope he does leave number ten.
       
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    you notice its all cities? or large Urban sprawl. and I wouldnt exactly call cities "civilised", some of them are downright UNcivilised.
    some of the American cities have and are having their share of violence too.
     
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    Sure, is that is why I crossed-out "Civilized areas of England" and left "Urban England".

    As an American, I perceive rural England (Heartland England) as being England. I no longer perceive urban England as being part of England. Urban England is going "third world."

    The situation is the same in America. Heartland America remains civilized. Urban America is going feral. American high crime rates are due to urban crime. The crime rates in Heartland America are the same as those in England and Europe. In Heartland America, there are more firearms than people. The presence or absence of firearms means next to nothing whatsoever. The absolute lowest firearm ownership rates in America are among black and Hispanic populations.

    Criminals use stolen firearms. This is why I keep my history collection locked in safes. My house and my workshop behind the house have electronic security (w/battery back-up). At night and when away, I turn on the electronic security. Our house-dog WILL bite. I always keep a small handgun in my pocket, so that were I to get some interloper, I could send out some lead until I made it to a real weapon. A home invasion occurred less than a mile away from our house. The invaders were urban and had traveled out to do their targeting (they may have hit the wrong house; according to police, they could have been seeking the home of fellow drug dealers). There are always going to be aggressive, dangerous humans skulking about. Such felons should be made to live in perpetual terror of not just the deputies being able to bring an abrupt end to their lives, but also of the local civilized folk shooting them.

    Businesses that sell firearms have as another major source of income, gun safes. One outdoors shop in my area puts their gun safes out on their front porch to display them to those driving by (the road there is rural and high percentage of its traffic consists of pickup trucks; across the road is pastureland). Cars do outnumber trucks and SUVs here; however, if you are a person driving a compact car, to look at the driver of the vehicle next to you, you will have to look up. In traffic accidents, the owners of tiny cars end up in the hospital or morgue.

    Chicago shooting suspects

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    Philadelphia shooting suspects

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    Los Angeles suspected murderers

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  40. lonewolf

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    of course cities and urban areas are where most of the population lives, in the UK thats 80% of the population, once you pack people into housing estates and high rise apartments your going to get feral attitudes, there is an estate in Leeds where people are afraid to go out of their front door because of yobs with fireworks and the Police and Emergency workers are attacked on sight and thats not the only place.
    once a "civilisation" gets to that state its on the road to collapse.
    these feral yobs arent even human any more.
     
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    Old Geezer, have you ever visited England or served there in the military?
     
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    https://unlimitedhangout.com/2020/1...ncies-declare-cyber-war-on-independent-media/

    "British and American state intelligence agencies are 'weaponizing truth' to quash vaccine hesitancy as both nations prepare for mass inoculations, in a recently announced 'cyber war' to be commanded by AI-powered arbiters of truth against information sources that challenge official narratives.

    "In just the past week, the national-security states of the United States and United Kingdom have discreetly let it be known that the cyber tools and online tactics previously designed for use in the post-9/11 'war on terror' are now being repurposed for use against information sources promoting 'vaccine hesitancy' and information related to Covid-19 that runs counter to their state narratives.

    "A new cyber offensive was launched on Monday by the UK’s signal intelligence agency, Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), which seeks to target websites that publish content deemed to be 'propaganda' that raises concerns regarding state-sponsored Covid-19 vaccine development and the multi-national pharmaceutical corporations involved.

    "Similar efforts are underway in the United States, with the US military recently funding a CIA-backed firm—stuffed with former counter-terrorism officials who were behind the occupation of Iraq and the rise of the so-called Islamic State—to develop an AI algorithm aimed specifically at new websites promoting “suspected” disinformation related to the Covid-19 crisis and the US military–led Covid-19 vaccination effort known as Operation Warp Speed.

    "Both countries are preparing to silence independent journalists who raise legitimate concerns over pharmaceutical industry corruption or the extreme secrecy surrounding state-sponsored Covid-19 vaccination efforts, now that Pfizer’s vaccine candidate is slated to be approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) by month’s end."
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  43. Old Geezer

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    Worked for a British concern. Constantly interacted with Brits. Due to working in the lab, I did not travel, however I was with Brits and Yanks who were perpetually back and forth across the Atlantic. We were employed by that British holding group due to British laws and taxation killing their ability to economically survive within Great Britain and the Netherlands. Engineering expenses in Britain are apparently "over the top".

    An inveterate alcoholic-American who worked in another group near my area was sent to Great Britain (oil platform s/w issues, stayed in England and Scotland, was helo'ed to the platforms and back). Needless to say, he frequented the pubs. He told us that he found that the British drank too much. I was standing there with two or three fellow Americans; none of us said anything. We kind'a just looked at him after he said that.

    My childhood impression of England was provided by my father who was stationed there for three years. His ordinance crews were making preparations for the European invasion. He was stationed in rural areas. All of his stories were very positive about England; he found work-ethic, good-heartedness, and bravery. I was however given a poor impression of the French by both my father and his brother (both spent time there during and after the invasion; uncle went on to invade Germany). My combat infantry uncle actually gave me a positive impression of the German people. I didn't get a positive impression when working for a giant German industry. The people from Bavaria were nice, smiled, and liked to party. I sure liked one Austrian in particular -- what a great fellow!

    I know that British youth often choose to go on the dole rather than work for their income. In the USA, one has to prove that you are applying for jobs lest you lose all unemployment benefits (which run out in just a few weeks anyway). Our poor are want to supplement their government checks with money from illegal activities often violent in nature, or drug money alone. American ghettos have no shortage of Cadillac Escalades. If I have not been lied-to by coworkers, then it seems that the "welfare effect" is pretty much the same in whatever socialist country you live. Urban Amerika has gone socialist and thus the high violence rates among those who are unable to control their glandular motivations.

    Are the stabbings we Americans read about happening in London fiction? Are the welfare-fed drug-addled dead-eyes of the perpetually-on-the-dole crews of London we Yanks see in British photographs faked?

    "Old Geezer is too stupid to understand that England is a socialist utopia!" Tell you what, it would be a cold day in Hell for me to travel to any British city as things currently exist. International travelers are avoiding London and it is NOT simply due to the levels of Chinacovid infection-rates found there. London and other major British cities have savages who take sport in stabbing people. Add to that, the British government's admonitions to "please don't look". If one points-out the inconvenient truth that invaders have buggered England, then that person is branded a racist. Truth seems to have gone "racist". Think that civilized people want to travel there? No. No, they don't. Another reason not to travel there is the arrogant attitude British "elites" and publications exude. Decent people want those who stand proud before God to scurry-off someplace else, or die when the SHTF.

    Rural England or rural Scotland, those places I would readily visit. In my readings of police reports, I've found drug gangs being busted there in rural areas, however due to the better than good genetics in those regions, they are, on the whole, mightily civilized and likely the same genetic lot my father came to admire.

    But the thought of having to live in a country where I have to get permission from Big Brother to exercise my God-given rights is a thing I will avoid. Here in America back in the latter 1700s, men and frontier women killed elitist red-coat would-be overlords and made ourselves free (God's Eternal Blessings be upon General Pulaski and the Marquis de Lafayette for their noble and selfless service to our nascent nation). Coming up in American history, it looks like elitist would-be overlords calling themselves Americans are going to have to be taught a most unpleasant lesson. Protracted (years long) guerilla civil war is hideous beyond measure, yet here it is uninvited on our doorstep, uninvited by the clean and good people of this land.

    This is why American preppers prep. This is why American preppers possess and perpetually train with firearms. Freedom isn't free. History teaches that free people must be able to fight lest Liberty be raped out of them. And yes I have drawn a gun on a felon. I've had guys who'd done time back away from me. Threaten me or my family and I will kill. Real Americans don't put up with crap. I have zero qualms about taking human life and this thing within me is universal among real Americans. I am NOT special in any way; I only have special skills hither-thither. I am just one American, an actual American. As I look about other American members here, plus at least one English member, I witness those willing to fight for sacred Liberty. Were I a herd-type, a wether, I would be put-off by the freedom-first atmosphere of this site.
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      So the answer is no.
      Perhaps you should visit one time and find out for yourself because you can't believe everything that you read in the media.
       
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  44. Old Geezer

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    All of the photographs in the following link have been photoshopped. Due to diligent knife-control, there exist no problems with stabbings within English urban areas. All that blather is but the hallucinations of the conspiracy crazies.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=suspect+stabbing+in+england&atb=v140-1&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

    There are no rape gangs in England. Oh, excuse me, I should have said "grooming gangs" -- that is the proper term according to the Church of Political Correctness.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rape+gang+england&atb=v140-1&ia=images&iax=images

    Truth be told, I hope that the people of England continue to bring in more "refugees" from the Middle East and North Africa. So far, only peace and happiness have resulted from this most-beautiful social experiment. Compromise is good and healthy.

    Only stupid, non-progressive, racist English people avoid the urban utopias.
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      :rolleyes: Rudeness and sarcasm substituting for first hand knowledge again, not entirely unexpected.
       
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  45. Old Geezer

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    Are evidential photographs sarcasm? Are hundreds of raped little girls lying?

    Nations are not unlike patients with cancer. In its early stages, cancer's symptoms are NOT so very obvious. Most patients willfully ignore such signs and pass them off as, "Things like this just happen. If I ignore this, it will go away."

    In England, immigrant crime continues to grow, therefore the Secular Humanist elite step-up the propaganda and squelch reports that could reach the public. "Don't worry, be happy!" Those who need to pretend that this will "all go away" lap-up government vomit like hungry dogs.

    https://fcpp.org/2020/02/05/becoming-numb-to-terrorism/

    Do bring more aggressors into your country, but keep them in your cities. It would be horrid were the hoards to invade the English countrysides where decent people still live.

    Here in America, we are going to get a spine-snapping economic depression. The monsters will crawl out upon the streets to redistribute. Should they leave the cities to predate upon the civilized, such will be our trigger to fix that which has gone wrong. Police are now being cursed by the Social Democrats as being racist and evil, therefore the police are leaving the cities and headed to places in America that are still clean. Clean people possessed of discipline and orderly behavior are the best soldiers. If put-upon, we will take out the trash.
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    I do not need "first hand knowledge" to know that dog feces is repugnant and something to be avoided. The smell does waft.
     
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    So Old Geezer, you've not traveled, that explains a lot. Anything truthful in the Breibart News today, its your favorite judging by the links you keep posting.

    Did you ever serve or are you more an armchair warrior?

    Anyway, given your advanced years you should be getting your vaccine shots within weeks, will it be free as it is in the UK or will you have to pay to save your own life?
     
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      I've held a loaded shotgun on another "human" with the intent to kill him if he continued in his efforts to get into our home. Have you loaded a weapon in preparation to shoot a person in the next minute or so? Has Mommy Government given you permission to own a firearm? You have to ask Mommy first, such are the laws of your land. Of course your felons simply do as they please.
      https://lyndre247gists.wordpress.co...-death-in-woolwich-london-street-watch-video/
       
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    Maybe in 2021, England will revisit 2011. The numbers of those participating in the 2011 festivities has grown and grown. I'm sure the next party will be utterly brilliant.

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    The Chinacovid vaccines (usually two shots at the virus's current stage of evolution/branching) have other "attributes".

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/25/cdc-should-warn-people-about-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects-experts/

    "Medical experts this week urged advisers to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that the agency should warn Americans that the side effects from a COVID-19 vaccine won’t be “a walk in the park.”

    "Dr. Sandra Fryhofer of the American Medical Association said patients will need to be prepared to endure the potentially grueling side effects that come with Pfizer’s and Moderna’s vaccines — or they won’t come back for the necessary second dose, CNBC reported.

    “'We really need to make patients aware that this is not going to be a walk in the park,” Fryhofer said at an online meeting Monday with the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, a group of medical experts that advises the CDC.'

    “'They are going to know they had a vaccine. They are probably not going to feel wonderful. But they’ve got to come back for that second dose.'

    "'Patsy Stinchfield, a nurse practitioner at Children’s Minnesota, suggested that public health officials and drugmakers use language such as 'response' instead of 'adverse reaction' in order to not deter people from getting the vaccine."
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    2011? I expect you are referring to the "London riots" of 6-11 August of that year after Police shot and killed a known criminal..sound familiar?
     
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