Camping Just Wasn't Enough.

I would swim with sharks in open water without a cage before I did that. Not just "NO". Oh Hell NO.

 

That ain't much of a way to be a survivor .

 

Hey that looks cool, can I have a go?

 

I thought to myself...why, why, WHY? I know some mountain climbs take more than one day, and they hafta sleep sometime. But...hmmm...some mountain climbers get to sleep permanently. All it takes is just one misstep...

Nope, not for me, but different strokes for different folks, lol.

(I almost got a nosebleed just looking at that photo.)


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Good morning all,

My 2 pfennigs worth; ...

I'll hold off and not use the word "fools". I call these mountaineers modern socialists. If/when there's an emergency eg wind sheer, a medical condition like appendicitis , ... these foo ... er... mountaineers rely on the public sector for help.

Who pays for the public sector ?

Are these mountaineers transferring the risk to the public sector employees who would be called to rescue the foo ... er ... the mountaineers ?

I endorse Poltiregist's post.

 

Hanging off slabs like that has been done for decades, certainly in the 50's onward so its not a new thing and overall its very safe.

I never climbed mountains high enough to employ the technique but would have in the blink of an eye on a major climb.

Mountaineering is safer than Quail hunting with Dick Cheney

 

Good morning Duke in Wales,

Walking along mountain paths has been done for centuries. Both have dangers and both are NOT "very safe". You're not familiar with wind sheer and medical emergencies ?

After the 1950s in the US, the costs of the realized risks of mountaineering were transferred to the public. The public must pay (ending with the Trump Administration) for the foolish pleasures of those from the sheltered suburbs experimenting with the outdoors involving this "very safe" matter.

Don't go to Kathmandu, Nepal and tell 'em that mountaineering is safer than Cheney when drinking. The former VP is now a multimillionaire and Nepal has financial problems with their Summit permits.

Cheney was no award-winner here.

Lord Astor was an award-winner east of here.

 

A mountain in the UK must be 2000 feet or higher, there are 600 in England.

 

I'm very familiar with wind shear, medical emergencies, white outs, hypothermia, hyperthermia etc, I was a volunteer with two Mountain Rescue groups in Wales, one when I was up in North Wales and one down here in the south and I still do a lot of four season hill walking/camping. I've winter climbed in England, Wales, Scotland and in parts of Europe when I was younger. Mountain rescue including using helicopters is still a free service in the UK, Just be another of those pesky Liberal services we give all people.

What the hell as Cheney's wealth and Nepal's poverty got to do with it? Like LW, humour does not always land on target with Americans it seems

 

Good afternoon Duke in Wales,

I accept your volunteer mountain rescue credentials.

The article's picture at the bottom right shows some people presumably part of this mountaineering party.

A major theme of prepping is Safety, Safety, Safety.

Now, for instance, one of those in the bottom right of the picture camping on the flat rocks has a medical emergency and one of the foo....er...mountaineers dangling from the overhang is a skilled medic, how do you say time is of the essence in medical emergencies ...... especially in mountain terrain ? Safety, safety, safety !

It's not British English versus American English. It's definitions. UK helicopter rescues a "free service" ? Someone's paying for it; Canary Wharf real estate owners ?

What has former VP Cheney's alcohol consumption around shotguns have to do with safety, safety, safety ? Perhaps it's gallows humor.

Meanwhile, if you think dangling from a rope is safe, FWIW, hang out at Ed Lloyd's coffee shop, Lloyd's of London and buy some disability income insurance clearly mentioning your hobby is mountaineering and the photos you brought with you show your tent with you inside dangling on a rope below an overhang.

Can rescue helicopters fly in all weather conditions ? I know they cannot around the North Sea oil fields. Perhaps so in Wales.

Meanwhile, after coffee at Lloyd's place, does it still take 10 dozen thimble cans of Whitstone's beer to equal a can sized for the Aussies ?

 

RAF provide the helicopters free, not a private funded jaunt. Prince William flew one

Choppers can't fly in all weather conditions and thats where leather personnel carriers come into play, we walk in, assess the situation, provide help and await the fly boys.

You should change your name tag from Pragmatist to Pedantist, much more apt for you

 

It is no crazier than jumping out of a perfectly good airplane. Both are done for the same reason...the adrenaline rush.

 

Good afternoon Duke in Wales,

You use different definitions than others. There are, indeed, "free" things from government. One example is public pension liabilities.

The UK government gets much free Defense from the US.

My safety theme has no relation to pedantics even if you don't reply to it at this prepper site.

Safety, safety, safety.

 

Nothing from government is ever free. Everything the government does or gives out is either taken from taxpayers or borrowed against tax payers futures.