Camping Trip

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  1. Dalewick

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    Decided I needed a couple days of down time to recharge the batteries, so me and the misses went camping. Stayed in state and went to Spruce Knob National Recreation area. Set up the new tent since I hadn't used it but a couple times before. It's a truck tent and turns the bed of your pick-up truck into a tent.

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    Used the cooler as a step, since I'm not a spring chicken any more. The tent works great and kept everything dry through several major downpouring rains. Used a air mattress for comfort sleeping but figure that's going to change. Best part of this area is NO ELECTRONIC ANYTHING!!! No cell reception. No internet. The campground is a little over 3000 feet in elevation and adjacent to a small lake stocked with trout as well as bass, pike and bluegill. The fish weren't biting much. Watched several deer from the campsite and tracked 2 bears in the area.

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    t's a beautiful area with no light pollution. The stars were beautiful before the clouds moved in. Nice to sit beside a campfire and not be thinking through what to do next.

    Dale
     
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      Thanks.....nice post. Interesting they encourage the "Pike" existence.
       
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  2. Dalewick

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  3. Alaskajohn

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    Pretty area! Its always good to get away.
     
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  4. varuna

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    And HOW do you manage to post to this forum?
     
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  5. Dalewick

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    I'm back home now....unfortunately. LOL!

    Dale

    FYI - I live only about 4 1/2 hour drive from area. Or 1 hour by air. LOL! Country roads.
     
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  6. Old Geezer

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    https://everythingwv.com/places/spruce-knob-seneca-rocks-national-recreation-area

    What a beautiful place. I like living on the edge of forested mountains / national park. Get to drive through miles of forests every day.

    W.Virginia is still part of the real America. Nobody is going to give you any grief for carrying a gun.

    Had a friend get busted at a camp-out, but they were smoking dope. The young people scurried away. My buddy just smiled and held up his hands. I think he got fined for having marijuana and they confiscated his revolver. The cops were nice. He went to the police station (or ranger station?, I don't remember who busted him) and they handed him back his handgun.

    Cops gotta do their job. You're nice to them they are nice to you ... at least in my neck of the woods. I've attended police gun sales, but the quality of these weapons is often poor. I'm mega-pro-gun-ownership, but these cheap weapons are often unsafe weapons and I've seen them just blow apart; saw this self-destruct scenario play-out one day at the county sheriff's dept range. Range-master talked to the guy about the importance of spending the money to get a quality handgun.

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    1. Dalewick
      I live on the canyon rim of the Meadow River, which is part of the Gauley River National recreation area https://www.nps.gov/gari/index.htm in the heart of West Virginia. West Virginia has a right to carry law so that's no worry. Every day I get to watch deer and other wildlife walk through my yard and it's a 5 minute UTV ride to get to the river for fishing. I wouldn't trade my home for anywhere else. Especially since the state has reintroduced elk.
      I live remotely enough that if a stranger drives through and they don't look like a lost tourist, they are kindly invited to leave the area.

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  7. Max rigger

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    Looks similar to where son and I are camping :)

    I take all the 'tech' with me, I love technology but I'll let you into a secret...just because you have it with you don't mean you have to use it.;)
     
  8. lonewolf

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    whats the point of packing something on a camping trip and not using it? I go on a camping trip and I'm carrying the bare minimum, if I'm not going to use something its left at home.
    people pack the gimmick stuff and leave behind something that could save their lives and the emergency services have to come and save them, seen it all too often.
     
  9. Dalewick

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    My only concessions to "gimmicks" would have to be a solar charging tent light and a steel hotdog stick for roasting hotdogs on the campfire. The cell phone stays in the truck and that's the only electronic that we take with us. No contact with the world beyond the wilderness. I prefer it that way.

    Dale

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    1. Old Geezer
      It's called "roughing-it", right?!
       
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  10. Rebecca

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    Did you have any wind with the rain? And how did the tent handle the wind?
     
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  11. lonewolf

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    absolutely.
     
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  12. Dalewick

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    Yes mam, there was plenty of wind. It never got above about 45 MPH at the tent site. Had a breeze of 10 to 15 MPH the rest of the time. The area is on the eastern USA continental divide. The top of the mountain is at 4863 feet in elevation and the campground is at 3840 feet in elevation. Plenty of wind up there. I love that area. I used to work up in that area doing predator control for the government.

    Dale
     
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  13. Max rigger

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    Like I said, you don't have to use it. If I was on a winter sub zero trip carrying everything my electronics would be slimmed down

    Sat phone
    Spot beacon (need to renew that one)
    Moto G5 phone, good solid phone and you can replace batteries so 3 spare batteries take up a lot less space than a power bank which gives me music, video, camera, GPS, maps, books, games. You've said your not a winter camper so trust me, when your stuck in a tent in foul weather for a day or three a bit of music is very welcome.

    Obviously I carry paper maps, compass, torch/flashlight with strobe action/batteries.

    Nothing I take is a gimmick

    "A gimmick is a novel device or idea designed primarily to attract attention or increase appeal, often with little intrinsic value. When applied to retail marketing, it is a unique or quirky feature designed to make a product or service "stand out" from its competitors."

    I take foremost what I NEED and look at WANTS as luxury items and if your load carrying (no transport) you tend to cut back on superfluous items.

    That said, this trip is not a survival course, we are not man hauling its a break from months of lockdown so we can take and play with what we WANT :)

    Got some high winds tonight and rain but this lavvu tent just stands its ground and keeps us dry, not nylon, no condensation, its a great investment and well worth the high cost.
     
  14. varuna

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    And here I'm still trying to find replacement of that paper maps with digital one. And sadly haven't find suitable solution yet, maybe in the next 5 years or so it might. And these days I only use digital compass from any of my phones, although I still use Suunto MC-2G to calibrate the phones compass beforehand. While backup button compass is always available within the hollow handle of our knive (most in my group carry either Aitor Commando or Aitor Jungle King 2)

    My expedition setup even consist of a Honda EU2000i generator, Ku-band VSAT set, alongside industrial drone, various radios (marine band, air band, MURS), and of course there are always some laptops around
     
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  15. Old Geezer

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    I love sitting around a campfire. Comes from when I was a boy.

    I'd get home from grammar school in winter to my grandmother's house; I walked. I'd be freezing. She had coal heat. We'd get kindling (dried hardwood) from the flooring factory (my Pap had worked there after he'd gotten too crippled in the mines). The scrap-wood the factory tossed, couldn't be used; pickup truck load was around $2 (that paid a guy who'd open the slues gate to the enormous hopper, two stories worth, where the scrap-wood was diverted). Dried oak and maple pieces would slam into your truck. As an adult, I still went there, this time in my own pickup.

    Fireplace in den; uncle slept in there when he was around; a liberated German Mauser rested in the closet (its original owner was in heaven or hell). Loading the fireplace: Rolled up papers under the grate (coal grate, not a log grate), then the dried kindling atop, the coal went on the tippy-top. As a kid, I'd build a fire that would melt your eyebrows ... I've melted my own. When the power goes out, so what! Love the smell of kerosene lamps. Built how many fires? God knows.

    Childhood memories. Matches, big strike-anywhere matches; I'd strike them on my blue jeans zipper. I collected cigarette lighters starting in grammar school, get naphtha chemical burns on my legs under where my blue jean pockets lay. I have one of my grammar school pocket knives in my desk drawer beneath my keyboard, two Zippos rest under my desk lamp to my right.

    I'm in front of the fireplace. Uncle comes into the room, "Hey boy, you know that if you play in the fire, you'll piss the bed, right!" He laughs at me. He drops one of his revolvers in his pocket then heads out into the night. I have an automatic in my pocket as I sit here at my desk tonight. No fire in the fireplace, but I within the next 30 minutes I could get something going in my huge fireplace that would melt a man's eyebrows.

    My uncle was wrong about pissing the bed after working a fire. He had all kinds of names he'd call me. Had I gone through what he went through in WWII, I don't know if I could have ever smiled and joked again. He did. He knew too much, that man. What he didn't know was fear. Or maybe he did, but I never saw such a thing in his eyes.

    I maintained the huge furnace downstairs in the dirt floor basement. All boys are pyromaniacs. Shoveling coal was hard work especially if you are short (4th grade, ?, when it became my job; used the old-timey coal shovel, almost bigger than I was), but I was in 7th heaven. It's why I love a good Islay Scotch -- it's the aroma of peat, i.e. way close to coal. Wondrous memories. There was no peace in my childhood, but curling up in front of a fire I'd built myself, lying there on the toss rug all by myself, that was being in the arms of Jesus.
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  16. lonewolf

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    I'm old school, I take only what I need what I'm going to use, of course I'm backpacking not caravan/camper, what I need I carry on my back, no roads not even tracks where I go.
    I like solo camping, no annoying other people, just peace and quiet and listen to nature.
     
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  17. Max rigger

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    We are lucky in the UK, our mapping system is world class, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey extremely detailed and come in various scales and available online and to buy and download for offline use, they are a fantastic tool. I'm a bit old fashioned in that I'll use a phone compass but still check it from time to time with a Silva compass I carry.
     
  18. varuna

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    It wasn't the availability of updated chart that still held me from disbanding printed chart, but its the durability of the electronic device and their battery capacity. Unlike compass or GPS which can be easily handle by smaller screen phone, a chart would require at least 10" screen to be usable for plotting navigational course or waypoint
     
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  19. Old Geezer

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    Long knives with fixed blades are necessary for outdoors work such as during hunting or camping trips. Some prefer long-bladed folding knives that have a blade lock to prevent one's fingers from being cut (even severed). In the wild, often undergrowth must be hacked back, thus a machete is always in one's kit. I always have a machete in my rather heavy'n'wide toolbox. In America, those tools draw zero attention. There is the notable exception of the DemocraticSocialist-run urban cancers where many people are unable to control their glandular behavior. Now in those malignancies, a civilized human can get into trouble for having outdoor tools if they run up against a Big Brother indoctrinated cop.

    We in America do not fully understand how we would get along in countries that keep their people in a condition of serfdom, even dictating the length and nature of sharpened metal objects, most call them knives. So let's say that I am living in England and I am going camping. I must carry outdoor tools, to include knives with long blades, in this journey of mine. Were I stopped on my journey in some town or city, could I simply tell a law enforcement person, "I'm going camping and I left this knife in my pocket." Camping involves knives that are substantially longer than three inches.

    (side story: Some of the bushes in my yard have required me to get my machete out the truck and hack them back far enough to allow heavy limb cutters to work. This weekend I have an assault-bush to be hacked-back, I fear being eaten by it. One hedge row of ours began to occlude a small gravel road -- hacking that one back wasn't fun.)

    I just assume that in rural England, the cops are anything but concerned about blade lengths on knives. However, in the better part of England knives are being blamed for causing people to lose control of their aggression. From England, I hear the phrase "knife crime" -- how bloody ridiculous! Its savage people engaging in savage behaviors.

    Here in small-town America, men and women carry knives on their belts. They carry hunting knives and lock-blade knives that have a belt-clip. Used to, it was hunting knives, now the lock-blades are more popular. You see this not only at the farm'n'garden plus home-repair retailers but also in the groceries. If a woman's carrying a good-sized knife, it's best to give her no grief. Women throw a handgun up on the dashboard of their trucks. Our crime rates here are low. A murder draws a whole lot of attention.

    In America, people whose genetic history goes back to England, have the same low violent crime rates as people with English genetics do in their traditional home there in England.

    The news we Americans see has it that England is now in the business of denying life's truths, so even knives are now being banned in that country. I hope this is NOT true for outdoors people. Surely if an Englishman is going camping he/she can carry what they need in the way of sharp metal objects! I know that British government only allows its serfs to own firearms that do not offend/challenge the gods of Big Brother and frowns on its serfs protecting themselves (hideous about those rape gangs).

    We know this, but what about knives and machetes which are needed when living in the wild? Do you get to xport them and keep them handy?
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  20. Max rigger

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    Not really, nothing stopping you plotting way points on offline maps, its a built in feature so no need at all for a 10" screen. Battery capacity on phones should be more than enough for you, you don't leave the screen on all the time and move round the map with pinch to zoom etc. You can take a power bank or do what I do, use an older phone you can swap batteries in. I carry three spare for the old phone I'm using on this trip.
     
  21. Max rigger

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    Morning old man, another ill informed early morning pre meds diatribe from you but good to see you keeping yourself busy, people of advanced age need to.

    Couple of thoughts, in random order:

    Blades on folding knives are restricted to 3" which is fine, you don't need more.

    Lock knives are banned on the streets.

    Most knife crimes are committed with a cheap kitchen knife.

    You can't buy or sell knives on ebay UK but plenty of other store sell them online.

    You need to show good reason for carrying a knife, seems a reasonable thing to be asked.

    You don't need some massive Rambo knife out in the woods and camping, all you need is a suitable axe and a good quality fixed blade which has no reason to be more than 6" blade length. World reknowned survival/bushcraft expert Ray Mears don't need one, he's happy with a shorter knife and axe (parang/kukri in jungle). On this trip I carry a Mora and have a Gransfors Bruks at camp which I've used this trip to split some firewood. Carry what you want on private land.

    In the UK if you are stopped by the police you will need to show just cause for having a knife, demonstrate why you need it and you'll have no problems.

    You talk foolishly about surfdom, ain't no surfs in the UK apart from the ones surfing the waves down in Cornwall or north Scotland mate.

    You talk of freedom, well in terms of the 'freedom index' Canada is listed at number 5 in the world, the UK at number 8 and the USA at number 17 so you got a lot of catching up to do, your living in an oppressive nation.

    With your incessent moaning about everything you've become a 'Ken' you know, a male 'Karen'. You remind me of the customer in this fantastic video



    Now keep yourself busy, take the dog out for a walk, have a game of online chess or something, you must keep your body and mind active at your age.
     
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  22. lonewolf

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    UK knife laws are to stop the gangs knifing each other in the big cities, not someone going camping or doing bushcraft or someone going about his trade which might need a cutting tool.
    I am of that generation that every male man and boy carried a pocket knife, to a British prepper a knife is not a weapon its a tool .
     
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      Why then should knife laws be enforced against the decent people? Should not the laws be only used in some attempt (futile attempt) to quell the mayhem amongst the people given to savagery? England was a civilized place, then the uncivilized moved in. The good people of England should not have to loose what little freedom was afforded them just because their elitist rulers opened the gates to the dregs of the earth.
       
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    Out if curiosity I looked up your quoted "freedom index" of the top results the first 2 had Canada in 4th place but the United Kingdom in 14th and the United States in 15th. So not much to brag about the UK over the US there.

    The next had freedom of press index which looked rather weird but hey Canada came in 16th compared to the UK at 35. Even South Africa beat the UK on that one.

    Honestly the whole thing looks very subjective and every page and institute has a different opinion.

    Oh I did finally find the one that said the UK was 8th... but really considering the number of different opinions I shall just be happy they generally rank Canada at the top LOL

    There is also little point in arguing over knives. What you use depends on your circumstances. I use a machete often and truly if I come face to face with a pissed off bear considering I am not allowed to carry a gun I would rather have the machete over the "6 inch blade is all you need". But that is all about location. You may never need a machete in your English woods but I find plenty use for it in my Canadian forest and it makes me feel slightly safer to carry both it and a shorter fixed blade. You cannot impose your own environmental requirements on people who live in a totally different environment.
     
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  24. lonewolf

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    I have several machete's but if I'm clearing land I prefer an English hand scythe also known as a grass Sickle (it cuts more than just grass).
    as for knives, the best knife is the one you have with you when you need it.
    Ray Mears uses a Mora bushcraft knife most of the time, so its whatever suits one best.
    as for the freedom index who cares, best not to get into a pissing contest.
     
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  25. varuna

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    Eeech what I was referring is the SIZE of the screen is not suitable for plotting navigation. And whether I'm on sea, air or land I still use my consumer grade electronic (phones) for navigation purpose, note taking, etc. Although is more to check for ETA if I were in the air.

    For powerbak, I've already have Anker Powercore+ 26800, but mostly using it to charge all the phones (particularly the drone & radio guys whose never bring any powerbank for their phones). And charging the powerbank after we setup basecamp and run the generator. Nonetheless the need for charting navigation is so paramount that I need something equally reliable & durable as printed chart
     
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  26. varuna

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    You know a khukuri is basically just an axe with very short handle

    Just curious, how cold is the water there. I said cold because for me the summer of Florida is already too cold for me
     
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  27. lonewolf

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    a generator on a camping trip?
    as for a map, buy a printed one and find someone with a laminator.
    a kukri is nothing like an axe.
     
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  28. varuna

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    A geological survey could be anywhere from 24 hours to nearly a week. And require plenty of wattage for powering all the laptops, VSAT, drones, etc

    I'm talking about a real chart the one with contour lie and such. And around here its not for sale, you only need tto downloading it ad printed yourself or copy the chart data to your navigational device (whatever that is) yourself. The gov't only provide the updated data but not printing service. Moreover I need to plot multiple evacuation route (just in case) after the basecamp were setup and the feed from the drones start coming

    Axe came in variety of shape. Ever heard dane axe? A dane axe doesn't look like anything as their wood chopping couterpart either. Anyway a Khukuri is an axe with inward curve
     
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    we have contour maps in Britain too if someone knows how to read them.
    I dont agree about the kukri, maybe you use a different sort but over here its more like a short curved machete, you know the ones they use in Nepal the ones our Gurkha's use.
     
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  31. Max rigger

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    You don't get contour lines on your maps over there? wow, we do:)
     
  32. Max rigger

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    Whichever way you look at it the UK is more a 'Land of the Free' than the USA Rebecca, you live under far more oppression than most of us in Europe and Scandinavia.

    Another statistic for you, death from police shooting per 10M

    USA 34.8

    UK 00.05

    Machete's are OK but I find something like a superb quality Gransfors hand axe far far better in woodland, we probably have more hardwood in UK woods than you have in the USA so the extra weight of the axe is needed. If you don't own a Gransfors take a look for one, not cheap but very very high quality.
     
  33. Rebecca

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    Actually Max, I live in Canada, so both the UK and the US loose to us according to your index.

    So about that oppression I'm living under? :):)
     
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  34. Old Geezer

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    "Blades on folding knives are restricted to 3" which is fine, you don't need more."

    If I wish or need a longer knife, it is none of Big Brother's business.

    I am a man and not a child. I will kill for Liberty as did my ancestors. The Brits were controlling elitists, so we Americans with the aid of the French Navy killed them and kept killing them until they left. May God eternally bless the soul of General Gilbert du Motier, marquis de Lafayette. May God eternally bless the soul of General Casimir Pulaski.

    "Another statistic for you, death from police shooting per 10: USA 34.8; UK 00.05"

    Exactly who would the police shoot in England? Most folk in England are European in blood lines and are genetically predisposed to behavior that is ordered. These genetics allow the frontal lobes of the brain to overrule the glandular desires / lower brain animal predispositions -- at least most often reason thought wins out, sure not 100% true. We here in America must live among savages who get the urge to do something and just do it. Areas of America that are of the same genetics of the people of England have the same crime rates as the English. In areas of Britain where the genetics have been stable for the past hundreds of years, I could line the streets with handguns and the crime rate would remain the same. The handguns would be taken out by civilized people to the rifle ranges or be used as door-stops. The presence of weapons does not turn civilized people into savages. There is no such thing as "gun crime". Now as to "savages committing crimes", there is plenty of that. Oh by the way, crime causes poverty -- not visa versa.

    Rural crime rates in America's Heartland are the same as in England. Hispanic migrant farm-workers have a bunch of stabbings among their men, however that violence is their business. I'm not going to tell them how to live their lives. I think of Hispanics as defaulting to being civilized 99.44% of the time. When Hispanic men start to have a row, just get out of their way. Friend of mine in high school, we shared the same first name. One guy was a bit darker than the other. The only difference was that he was Catholic and I was raised Protestant. He and his family were mega-civilized. Hispanics come to America to work. They have a tendency to vote for big government because they are used to being ruled and being made subservient to their "betters". In America they start their own businesses, then begin voting conservative so that they can grow their businesses and hire more workers.

    Mean people get involved in the drug trade and kill each other during their endless wars. I wish they would keep their wars on their own turf. I couldn't care less if they wiped themselves out. Sure wish they wouldn't kill the genetically better / the innocent among their own -- those lives mean something. A good all-out slaughter-fest among the evil and low would create jobs for bulldozer operators who would be busy digging, filling, and covering the mass graves of the damned (whose lives were for naught).

    "You need to show good reason for carrying a knife, seems a reasonable thing to be asked."

    It is not reasonable for some pond of would-be overlords to question a free people. I am an adult, the neurotic inferiors can go wring their hands and engage in endless intellectual self-abuse until they starve to death. Career government people and those who have the same weak genetics could all die this afternoon and the people of worth would go on about the industry of civilization. Without any longer being pulled down by the useless, society would be greatly improved.

    To the serfs of Europe, go on living knowing that you are being "taken care of" by your betters.

    Last year the governor of Virginia began behaving like some elitist British overlord, just like the ones who attempted to rule us in the 1700s. Such were the results:

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    Notice that these people are not burning down anything. They are in control of themselves.

    The message is clear, "Do what the British did during the 1700s and you will be dealt with as were those would be overlords."

    Should Antifa wish to burn the cities, OK, we'll sit back and watch. Should Antifa form armies and come the burn our Constitution & burn the Churches, we will annihilate them. We hear the word "decimate" being used. Decimate is to only remove 10%. We will annihilate Antifa.

    The sycophants of Europe can continue living their Stockholm syndrome existence. It's just that watching people do that kind'a triggers an American's gag reflex. Now, we do read here in America that countries like Austria and Hungary are standing up like free men and women and opposing the European Union Borg. In my mind, I think of the people of Austria and Hungary (my wife's people came those countries) as being more self-sufficient than other European nations. I'm hoping that I'm right in my observations. I hope that the Austrians and Hungarians still have survivalist hearts. I pray they survive what is coming.

    Any peoples on Earth given to capitulation will be wiped-out by the coming series of mind-numbing storms.
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    Drowning rats, wild vs. civilized.

    https://worldofwork.io/2019/07/resilience-hope-and-drowning-rats/

    Survivalists are wild creatures. The civilized folk will perish.

    During SHTF times, obeying collectivist laws will result not only in your death, but the deaths of your family.

    Practicing survival in real survival situations, such as turning off the electricity for a week or more (government TVA power did that for us, couldn't rely on the electricity being on), brings hope which then brings increased survivability. If one is conditioned to believe that someone will come to their aid, that person is dead. The people of today cannot rough-it. Today's campers take their electrical and electronic toys with them, just like a heroin addict must have his kit of rubber tubing, syringe, spoon, lighter, and dope. Zero psychological preparedness. Bit ego / dependency = death.
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  36. Max rigger

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    Good for you living in that beautiful country, I've been there, loved it and loved the people and very easy for brits to feel comfy there. Been out to British Columbia twice (vacation) staying not far from Victoria, wonderful city. I worked about a thousand miles away for some months ;) Consider yourself lucky.
     
  37. lonewolf

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    both my uncles moved to Canada in the depression years, married Canadian girls and made a life for themselves there.
    I tried to follow them half a century later but it wasnt to be!
     
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  38. lonewolf

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    how true.
    anyone who relies on the system and only the system will not survive when that system collapses. no back up plan.
     
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    I'm too old now to immigrate there so I'd need to find a good Canadian lass to marry me. Great country, hard working people, and space.....lots and lots of space.
     
  40. lonewolf

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    40 "too old"? really??:rolleyes: I was told straights age prematurely :p
     
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  41. Max rigger

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    Its 37 something age limit IIRC unless I have a pot of cash to buy an investment visa.
     
  42. lonewolf

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    I always though emigrating was about skills and a trade or profession that the country one was emigrating to needed.
     
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    mope its never does. Its always about MONEY! (at least for the host gov't) And to some around here its about skin colour
     
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  44. lonewolf

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    funny, when I tried to emigrate to Canada it was about skills and profession and filling a vacancy that no Canadian wanted, but then it was some time ago and the gates had all but been shut.
     
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    It still is mostly although you do need a fair amount of money to get it right but not huge amounts. They just want you to prove you having savings to live on for a few months. I started to explain different ways of immigration to Canada and then thought why am I bothering LOL
     
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    I did spent a couple of weeks in Ontario with my uncles at that time, but research and some meetings proved that I had left it too late and the gates were closing on emigration to that great country at least for some time.
    so I came home and made a life here instead.
     
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    Skills or money. 'Golden Visas' costs vary a lot by country and one that did surprise me was Cyprus which is well over one million but thats to attract the Russians I think, go on holiday there and the place is full of Russian tourists,they pretty much own the island now. I think the UK cost is around £2,000,000 per person, again I'd think its high to attract Russians, middle east and Asian folk.
     
  48. Old Geezer

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    Canada; business trip; city just north of Toronto; latter 1990s.

    Super clean Canada's cities; not like American cities of filth. Nightspots were civilized. The place was wall-to-wall white folk -- super odd to an American. One spot had its fair share of hookers and damnation, but I saw not one confrontation whatsoever. Just a bunch of nerdy white people. There was one gambling establishment where the men were zombies, but they were passive zombies.

    Despite socialized medicine, three towns (supper; was chatting up staff at this circuit board and s/w supplier of ours) had to get together to buy one (1) hospital one (1) CAT scan machine. The public had to have a telethon to kick-in the extra money that the government would NOT supply.

    I told them that back in my back-water area of America all hospitals had CAT scan machines. I'm not too sure that saving lives is a top priority in many socialist countries. A British nurse once told my wife and I (wife was in hospital for a surgery that was a follow-up to first cancer surgery) that in England they were "more accepting of death". Wow, what comfort.
     
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    Old Geezer you both made me laugh and realize that depending on where you are not much has changed. Toronto has changed, its said you can find an immigrant from every country in the world in Toronto now. When we moved back to Canada and were contemplating buying the property we now own we were warned that this is a very lawless area. Turns out that after more than a decade in southern Africa my definition of lawlessness was rather different to people in this part of Nova Scotia. Lawlessness turned out to be some old codger possibly making moonshine in the woods somewhere here....still haven't confirmed that rumor. (he's always been nice to me regardless and I don't care if he is making rot gut whiskey or not)And a lack of interest in routine patrols by the police - they don't even pretend to bother in winter.
     
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    Yep, it's been over 20 years since I was anywhere in Canada at all, period. One imagines things have changed.

    Speaking of imagination, I cannot imagine living in S.Africa. I've heard stories, read stories, seen the photographs of the white land owners who had be tortured to death. I am SO deeply glad that your dad got you out of that place. S.Africa continues to descend into raw chaos and violence. Do enjoy "boring" Canada. And, there are so many beautiful wilderness areas up there! I see myself as a part of nature. I am very uncomfortable when having to visit/work cities.
     
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