Can Covid-19 Be That Contageous ?

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  1. Pragmatist

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  2. Old Geezer

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    Leaky China

    https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/11/07/6000-people-infected-from-chinese-vaccine-factory-leak/

    The following is a cut'n'paste from this link -- no words are from Old Geezer --

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    Over 6,000 people in China’s northwestern city of Lanzhou have tested positive for brucellosis after they were exposed to contaminated aerosols from a state-run brucellosis vaccine factory leak over a year ago, Chinese state health authorities announced on November 4.

    “A total of 55,725 people have been tested so far near the factory, accounting for 97.5 percent of the total residents in Yanchang Road sub-district, the worst impacted area, and 6,620 have been confirmed infected,” the Chinese state-run Global Times reported on Thursday.

    The new figure more than doubles the number of cases Lanzhou health authorities said they had documented as of September 14 in connection with the same outbreak. At the time, government health officials said they had recorded just 3,245 positive brucellosis cases in the same district.

    Brucellosis is a highly infectious bacterial disease commonly found among livestock such as goats, sheep, and pigs. Humans typically contract the disease via close contact with infected animal tissue, or by ingesting unpasteurized dairy products from infected animals. Brucellosis symptoms include recurring fever, fatigue, and joint pain. Though rarely deadly, the disease may cause chronic health problems and damage reproductive health.
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  3. Old Geezer

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    Trust Big Brother!

    "NIH Admits Funding Gain-Of-Function COVID Experiments; Gives EcoHealth Five Days To Report Data"

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...-experiments-gives-ecohealth-five-days-report

    "A top NIH official admitted in a Wednesday letter that the US-funded so-called "gain-of-function" research in Wuhan, China - and that the US nonprofit which conducted it, EcoHealth Alliance - led by the controversial Peter Daszak, "failed to report" that they had created a chimeric bat coronavirus which could infect humans.

    "In a letter addressed to Rep. James Comer (R-KY), NIH Principal Deputy Director Lawrence A. Tabak cites a "limited experiment" to determine whether "spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model." According to the letter, humanized mice infected with the modified bat virus "became sicker" than those exposed to an unmodified version of the same bat coronavirus.

    "While Tabak's letter goes to great lengths to insist that EcoHealth's work couldn't have produced SARS-CoV-2, it absolutely vindicates Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), who Fauci repeatedly called a liar in July for accusing him of funding GoF research in Wuhan, China.

    "As we noted in September, proof that the US funded of GoF research was blown wide open thanks to materials (here and here) released through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by The Intercept against the National Institutes of Health, revealing that EcoHealth was paid to make chimeric SARS-based Covid that they confirmed could infect human cells.

    "While evidence of this research has been pointed to in published studies, the FOIA release provides a key piece to the puzzle which sheds new light on what was going on.

    "'This is a roadmap to the high-risk research that could have led to the current pandemic,' said Gary Ruskin, executive director of U.S. Right To Know, a group that has been investigating the origins of Covid-19 (via The Intercept).

    "We also learned in September that 18 months before the Pandemic, Daszak applied for a grant to release enhanced airborne coronaviruses into the wild in an effort to inoculate them against diseases that could have otherwise jumped to humans, according to The Telegraph, citing leaked grant proposals from 2018."
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  4. lonewolf

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    we now have Covid Delta plus in the UK, this one is definitely not affected by the so called Vaccine.
     
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      "... this one is definitely not affected by the so called Vaccine"
      True, true, true.
       
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  5. poltiregist

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    Perhaps the frantic demands from government goons that people take the vaccine is linked to the coming winter months . Reports are coming in more people die of covid that have been vaccinated , than those that refused the vaccine . This leads me to believe governments want people to alter their bodies before the winter months and the big die off begins . This in my paronoid mind thinks the government is orchestrating a genocide . --Test number one - the vaccine failed to prevent the chinese biological attack . Test number two coming up - will the big die off of vaccinated people as some predict be validated this winter ?
     
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  6. lonewolf

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    more people die in winter than in the summer anyway, but I believe very much like you do, I dont trust govt and I dont trust big pharma, goodness knows what some people are being persuaded to put into their bodies, in the meantime we see, we watch , and we wait.
     
  7. Old Geezer

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    As to more vaccinated people dying from covid than non-vaccinated, note that those most likely getting the vaccinations are the elderly, those with medical conditions, and medical staff. Medical staff, by definition, run into more covid-infected people, symptomatic and non-symptomatic. There is a whole lot of obesity going on with the nursing staff, by the by, no offense, just true. As to the elderly and the immunocompromised, even though vaccinated, the vaccine may not cause a proper anti-body count to be formed, plus the vaccine isn't as preventative as Big Brother would have us believe.

    There's NOT going to be some a big die-off among the vaccinated in the coming next few years. Decades from now ... hmmmmmm ....

    With vaccines, during the process of spike proteins exiting the cell, spike proteins are broken up. After leaving the cell, the immune system makes antibodies to fight the sub-components of these spikes. During an actual covid infection, the viruses destroy the cell and head on out into the body in FULL form with a ferocious number of fully-formed spike proteins cocked and locked to tear open cell walls and turn an ever-increasing number of one's body cells into virus-manufacturing units. Thus the fevers and attacks on blood vessel walls -- attaching to the ACE2 receptor sites.

    What I worry about is the LONG-term negative effects of the vaccine for younger people. Most likely, we old folk will die of some other disorder long before the vaccine's long term effects do whatever sort of damage throughout the coming decades. In sum, I am concerned about young people and their being immunized with an mRNA spike-protein-generating (by one's own cells) vaccine. Already a crew of adolescent male athletes have developed endocarditis. They got better, so Big Brother and his 5th column, the MSM, screamed, "Don't worry, be happy! Move on. Nothing to see here."

    There is VERY LITTLE reason to immunize young adults and EXTREMELY LITTLE reason to immunize children. These people do not die from covid-19 unless they have pre-existing health conditions or they have profoundly rare genetics. Some young folk only have cold symptoms, or no symptoms at all when infected with the Chinese-manufactured c19 virus.

    People at risk should be vaccinated with a regular vaccine, such as the upcoming Novavax. The mRNA vaccine families are NOT fully tested -- end of discussion.

    Some background on the mechanisms of activity, virus vs. vaccine:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8133385/
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  8. Old Geezer

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    "NIH Scrubs 'Gain-Of-Function' Definition From Website After Wuhan Bombshells, Rand Paul Vindicated"

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political...ng-fauci-over-civilization-ending-experiments

    "Update (1400ET): The situation is becoming even more tenuous for Dr. Fauci as the day wears on. In a detailed tweet thread released this afternoon, Jeremy Redfern exposes the NIH - run by Fauci - for changing the definition of 'gain of function' in the last few days as this shitstorm of reality struck.

    "For those that don't know - this is how the NIH defined 'gain-of-function' on their website until at least October 19th, 2021. ..."

    "As Summit News' Steve Watson detailed earlier, Senator Rand Paul, who was again proven right after the National Institutes of Health admitted it did fund gain of function experiments on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan, has blasted Anthony Fauci for lying for a year and a half about research that 'could destroy civilization.'”

    "Earlier Paul [Rand Paul] had tweeted 'I told you so doesn’t even begin to cover it here,' after NIH Principal Deputy Director Lawrence A. Tabak admitted in a letter to Rep. James Comer (R-KY) that a 'limited experiment' was conducted to determine whether 'spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model.'”
     
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  9. Dalewick

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    Gain of function lab.....short for biological weapons of mass destruction. I was told when this all started that this was a manipulated virus (not natural) and that China released it on purpose. I was told that the Chinese government (military), released this to control a segment of there population and then insured it left there borders for all to enjoy. Governments have been lying through there teeth since the beginning and that's not going to change.

    I've had covid twice now. The first time was bad. The second time was a joke, but natural immunity is no good they say. Get the jab they demand, even though you are not protected from covid and more people are dying that have the jab than don't.

    People should make up there own minds about all of this.

    Look at the people (world wide) that are and were involved with the lab in China. Then look at you current government and determine there motives.

    I could go further but you either see the writing on the wall or your chalk board has been erased.

    If this disease was a form of hemorrhagic fever, polio, etc.. I would consider that severe. Not covid.
    Just my personal opinion.

    Dale

    FYI - China ended their lockdown in April 2020.
     
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  10. lonewolf

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    a friend of the family died last year, he went into hospital for a non covid reason and was sent home WITH Covid, he died a week later.
    so stay out of hospitals, if you havent got it before you went in you will have it when you come home, IF you ever come home that is.
     
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