Channel Migrants

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  1. Pragmatist

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-52772136


    Good morning all,

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    Article about migrants/refugees entering UK.

    While reading the article about how small boats get "escorted" to north side of Channel, was thinking of USN. They can launch all kids of missiles with equal amounts of discussion on how to protect USN vessels from enemy swimmers.

    My view re article mirrors Dover MP Natalie Elphicken (sp?). Did not the migrant boats leave from French territory ? Collusion ?
     
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  2. lonewolf

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    Since Brexit the Europeans have shown a distinct lack of cooperation with the UK over "migrants" coming from their shores.
    don't forget these are all ILLEGAL immigrants.
     
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  3. wally

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    i feel your pain depending on the source we get about 300k to 1 million illegals per year....along with about 1 million legal immigrants...
     
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  4. lonewolf

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    dosent affect me personally, migrants tend to go for the cities where more of their kind live, not rural areas like mine.
     
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      You'd better hope it stays that way.
       
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  5. varuna

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    There is actually an easy not to mention cost effective solution for dealing with illegal immigrant who need to cross the sea.
     
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  6. watcherchris

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    The problem is that they go on the public dole....public assistance...meaning job security for government....agencies dispensing this dole....not the people of the country who have to compete for goods and services in the economy against an inflated money value printed to support these illegal immigrants...potential voters.

    In case no one has or will ever tell you …...


    What this does is job security for government sectors.but economic instability for the private sector of the economy.

    The native people....become competitors economically against government largess....excesses....

    You are an economic competitor.....not a citizen.....you need to be properly Herded...controlled to accept more of this and thus you can be happy while you come in second, third, and or fourth place in your own country.

    This is precisely what is happening in many European countries as well as in the UK>and planned for America.....

    This is how you become global.....international....loss of sovereignty....loss of native identity.

    No one in the media or pubic education will dare to teach this ..but instead tow the line to keep the government funding coming to them.

    You are being scammed by your own government....and yes.we too here in America....Ishmaelites run wild.

    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  7. Pragmatist

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    https://www.dailybulletin.com/2020/...s-with-calls-in-search-of-coronavirus-relief/


    Good afternoon Watcherchris,

    I believe above link adds an example.

    It's about undocumented immigrants in California to get state funds for individual or household. Article mentions there is also some private giving (LOL).

    Did not understand having a tax identification while being in an undocumented status.

    I do understand California is the only state using taxpayer money to assist undocumented workers.

    The mentioned stipends are relatively small. The article does not mention the medical costs for the tax identification registered undocumented immigrants. The national public is subsidizing this labor.


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    I fondly remember the 1965 Chevy Impala.
     
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  8. Old Geezer

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    In the USA, rural areas have high numbers of Hispanic workers. Violent crime rates are heading up due to this, however they mainly just stab each other. Immigrants also work construction jobs and have construction businesses of their own -- they drive nice trucks nowadays. Crime effect of this is in area of construction materials -- can't leave anything out. Friend of mine lost almost $1,000 worth of building materials when building his house. Neighbors saw the thieves leaving.

    Which reminds me. Had an in-law in Texas whose house was cleaned-out, furniture, whatever wasn't nailed down. My nephews were just kids then and were really upset that people could just come in and take all of their things. Jogging neighbor saw the moving truck the Hispanic felons used, but calling the police really meant nothing. The license plates are often stolen, as is the truck -- part of the modus operandi.

    The role of the police is to keep locals from enforcing the law. Immigrants know how weak most Americans are, so they consider us easy-pickin's.
     
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  9. Old Geezer

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    Welcome to the new Europe and the new England. Disarmed citizens and aggressive immigrants.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...0-no-go-area-locals-while-attempting-arrest/#

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/05/19/new-riots-erupt-french-town-death-teen-motorcyclist/

    "Knife crimes" are going up in London -- actually "humans" using sharp thingies to draw the blood of weakened serfs. I've never seen a knife commit crime on its own. Being the chipper kind'a guy I am, I hope London becomes uninhabitable. Let civilization collapse; welcome to Africa and the Middle East. Maybe London will go Beirut -- sometimes sane, sometimes chaos, flip a coin.

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/18/uk-knife-record-high/
     
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    A thought on this is that we are perhaps, in the western world, our own worst enemies. Using the UK alone as an example, we have had many consecutive Prime Ministers telling the world publicly what a great standard of living we have in the UK and so on and so forth. Can you blame people who have very little for responding to that message and wanting to come to the UK?

    Of course the sad truth is that we have poverty too, we just cover it up with political spin and lies. Many immigrants peoples end up no better off once they get here, they are exploited by ruthless landlords, often employed illegally at a wage far lower than the legal minimum and denied legal rights etc.

    Perhaps if we worked for a little more equality throughout the world people would be less keen to come and the world a more stable place? Who knows?
     
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    The Foreign Aid budget was supposed to help with that, infrastructure projects and all that, but in reality it all went to the wrong people and never got to where it was needed, in a lot of cases it was used to buy political influence.
     
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    I see foreign aid more as bribes than anything else. I remember a news clip years back during one of the never ending African crises seeing UN marked rice bags being freely distributed to armed rebels.

    It all boils down to money, in the end. Sad really, so many wasted opportunities to provide stability in the world.
     
  13. lonewolf

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    knew someone back along who worked in the Merchant Navy, as a purser he was responsible for buying food for the ship, he remarked that in many places, especially Africa and Asia it was very common to buy sacks of rice and stuff marked "foreign aid" from places like Britain or marked with a UN stamp, it was all being sold quite openly.
     
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  14. Brownbear

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    I am not surprised in the least by that.
     
  15. lonewolf

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    nope me neither.
     
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