Collapse Of Civilization

Discussion in 'News, Current Events, and Politics' started by Old Geezer, Feb 16, 2021.

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  1. Old Geezer

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    North Korea could use one of its tiny submarines or a special-build non-ferrous under-boat to carry a small nuclear bomb to the coast of the U.S..

    They would have to skirt the coastlines to the north, come down south off the coast of Canada and attempt to get as near as possible to Puget Sound / Seattle, or even further south to get near the San Fransisco Bay Area. What with all of our listening devices in our waters and certainly off the coast of these Pacific cities, the North Koreans would have their work cut-out for them. N.Korea gets plenty of practice with their spy subs off S.Korea's coast.

    As to armaments, they could surface-burst a small nuke and allow prevailing winds to carry fallout into one of our urban areas. Or, they could air-burst an EMP device. Or, the tiny sub could carry conventional rockets tipped with dirty bombs -- scattering plutonium across coastal cities. The panic factor alone would do the deed -- they wouldn't require heavy payloads at all. Amerikans are easily panicked. Blue states are totally limp-wrist ... not to mention, blatantly stupid.

    https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/north-korea-submarine-capabilities/


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  2. lonewolf

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  3. poltiregist

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    I would think there is a way any country's security circle could be breached . One thing for certain , all countries have studied the security perimeter of other countries and have a plan for breaching perimeters of any possible adversary .
     
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  4. lonewolf

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    stating the "bleeding obvious" I should think, if they havent then their all idiots.
     
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  5. TexDanm

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    The thing about nukes is that there is no point in bothering to launch them at this point. If any of the big three, China, Russa and the US, launch it will result in a near or possibly TOTAL distruction of our current civilization. The level of radiation it would put in the atmosphere would be devastating even to the nations not targeted or involved. WW2 was probably the last world war that anyone will win.

    I don't worry about it much anymore. The three major military powers have too many connections and economic dependencies. Their leadership can't afford to go to war. It is the little monsters that worry me. North Korea is led by a megalomaniac that doesn't seem to have any common sense. Iran used to be a worry, but they seem to be having enough internal problems to keep them out of trouble. They are more likely to go to war with the other Islamic nations than with the US.

    The liberals would love to drag the US down and sell us out to their communist brothers in China. The Russians are not interested in us anymore. They are VERY concerned about the threat that China poses for them.

    The greatest threat to the US now is INTERNAL. I honestly don't know how much longer we can continue as a unified nation. My question is simple. If everyone goes on welfare where exactly is the government going to get the money to support us all. The liberals are slowly bleeding the working class to death.

    The producing parts of the nation are being put out of business by the government allowing other nations to sell their stuff here at a price that no American company can match. When you pay almost slave wages with no health care and no retirement you can sell cheap! Almost everything you buy now is "Made In China". We are once again dependent on foreign oil that can be so easily cut off.

    Our military is getting smaller and smaller and becoming more and more dependent on technology. You can destroy a nation with bombs but you can't control them without boots on the ground. Once we start throwing nukes it is not going to allow for any winners. Everyone knows this so it isn't as much of a concern as it once was.

    If the liberals can import enough supporters, we will lose the war without ever fighting it. Why else would they want to flood the country with people that have no marketable skills, don't speak our language and that have no care for our nation?
     
  6. lonewolf

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    thats true, there are no winners in a nuclear war. a civil war is a different matter.
     
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  7. Old Geezer

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    Big Bro sez: Rape is normal; just get used to it.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-after-terror-suspects-caught-at-u-s-border/#

    "House Democrats passed a plan on Wednesday that would make it increasingly difficult for any president to impose a travel ban to protect American citizens and would allow individuals to sue when a president imposes such a ban.

    "The legislation would force the State Department, Department of Homeland Security, and the president to only issue travel bans 'when required to address a compelling government interest” and even then, they would be required to 'narrowly tailor the suspension to use the least restrictive means to achieve such an interest.'

    "House Democrats’ passage of the plan comes after a report this month revealed that two illegal aliens from Yemen were apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border. Following background checks, both were found to be listed on the FBI’s Terrorism Watch List and No-Fly List.

    "Biden, though, has ended Trump’s travel ban that prevented immigration from foreign countries considered exporters of state-sponsored terrorism. Likewise, Biden ended Trump’s order that halted a number of visa programs to prioritize jobless Americans for U.S. jobs."

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...l-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

    "Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are 'part and parcel of living in a big city' and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers."
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  8. lonewolf

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    British govt often gives out travel warnings based on health or terrorism events.
    Sadiq Khan is an idiot, lets hope he gets replaced in May elections by someone who can actually do the job properly instead of just lining up for "photo opportunities".
     
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    For those that still think agenda 21 is just a crazy theory , look at what was just said - open country to country travel . This leaves standing naked for the world to see " One World Government / agenda 21 " .
     
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  10. Old Geezer

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    https://www.breitbart.com/entertain...n-coming-out-of-colleges-with-sht-for-brains/

    "Sex Pistols frontman Johnny Rotten says 'wokeness' is a divisive political weapon being wielded by privileged, 'tempestuous, spoilt children,' whom the media offer a platform to push their unpopular politically correct opinions.

    “'Wokeness,' Johnny Rotten told the UK Times, is being used as 'a device used by the privileged to keep the working class in their place,' the paper wrote.

    “'These people aren’t really genuinely disenfranchised at all. They just view themselves as special. It’s selfishness and in that respect it’s divisive and can only lead to trouble,' the 65-year-old punk rock star said.

    “'I can’t believe that TV stations give some of these lunatics the space. Where is this ‘moral majority’ nonsense coming from when they’re basically the ones doing all the wrong for being so bloody judgmental and vicious against anybody that doesn’t go with the current popular opinion?' Rotten, born Johnny Lydon in Britain, asked.

    "Lydon placed the proliferation of political correctness at the feet of 'tempestuous spoilt children coming out of colleges and universities with shit for brains. And I put that in the most polite way.'

    This old geezer particularly likes the rock'n'roller's statement of, “I know what it’s like to stand up for what you think is right and to have to endure that continuous barrage of self-righteous, smug, pompous, condescending, ‘We know better’ nonsense. I know what that’s like.”

    One not-all-that-bad result of the coming SHTF hell years will be seeing the smug, pompous, condescending people get their spiritual knees bent backwards and their spiritual spines snapped. I want to hear the screaming of the arrogant. I want to tune into the MSM and witness the talking heads weeping. I want to see pure panic in their eyes. Some medicine is exceedingly bitter. Spiritual medicine is infinitely worse.
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  11. Old Geezer

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    A couple of comments on the above article caught my eye:

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  12. lonewolf

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    the woke brigade wont live long enough post collapse, they will be the first to go, them and the snowflakes and the work shy.
     
  13. Old Geezer

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    Pre-collapse, the woke brigade has made great progress in disarming the sheeple of Europe. Poland, Austria, and Hungary are fighting back, however. Good for them! St. Michael aid them!

    The international woke brigade imagines that they can disarm America.

    The best medicine for the anti-Christ is an elixir of molten lead.

    Let us make him drink thereof.
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    An article taken from the " organic Prepper "- Lenin predicted Capitalist will sell us the rope with which we will hang them . Actually Joe Biden sold them the rope for over a billion dollars prior to the successful coup . The article continues to expose China's goal to control the internet and the news and thinking process of people around the globe . We can already see this in the garbage news being feed to people . We can also see the results , even right here on this forum as at least one member has been fully duped into believing the garbage news . I am not trying to degrade anyone , but as preppers should be fully aware as to what is taking place within the bought and payed for communication system by China .--- The grandson that I am raising will not be returning to a brick and mortor school for indoctrination .
     
  16. lonewolf

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    I think I was far happier prepping before I ever learned how to use a computer, there is a hell of a lot of dross out there in internet land to wade through and a lot of it is just BS, whilst I agree we have to be aware of what is going on in the political world there isnt a hell of a lot we can do about it, we just have to plan for what comes as a result of it.
     
  17. poltiregist

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    As most of our members likely do , I stroll through various non-main-stream news outlets by computer . Sources I trust over the televised and government approved outlets . The difference between the two sources throwing out information hoping to net in believers is vast . In fact it appears they are talking about two different planets . It appears the governments doesn't like information reaching their subjects that has not been run through a government filter before being presented for consumption . An effort to knock the legs out from under the information outlets the government doesn't approve of is underway by attacking their financial support structure . --- It is possible that we may have a member or two that gets their information by the government approved sources . If so perhaps they will take the effort to enlighten themselves from government mind control , and seek to free their brains from government bondage .
     
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  18. Old Geezer

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    The mainstream media inflated the dangers of covid. One would have thought that masses were dying in the streets.

    The MSM downplays the dangers of hyperinflation and the very real possibility of economic collapse in Western nations. When economies collapse, often there actually comes the dying in the streets due to violence and mayhem.

    The mainstream media portrays preppers as nut case loonies. Anyone who is outside of the collective is ridiculed. Those who put back food or heaven-forbid ammunition are selfish and non-sharing. The MSM is all about redistribution to the "oppressed".

    One could say that the brain-numbing media has kept a lot of people from making preparations for the inevitable and in so doing has allowed us greater access to the items we need to be purchasing. We preppers were able to arm-up before the banning of firearms and the shortages of ammunition.
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    "IRS Denies Christian Non-Profit Tax-Exempt Status: ‘Bible’s Teachings Affiliated with Republican Party’"

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...bibles-teachings-affiliated-republican-party/

    "A Christian non-profit is challenging the Internal Revenue Service after the agency denied them tax-exempt status saying 'the Bible’s teachings are typically affiliated with the Republican Party and candidates.'"
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    Yet another reason we must ourselves prepare for the current and coming chaos:

    "Governments Are Failing at Their Most Basic Duties—While Promising Free Stuff"

    https://mises.org/wire/governments-are-failing-their-most-basic-duties-while-promising-free-stuff

    This article quotes from Leonard Read's “Social Reformers as Keepers of the Peace.”

    "'There remains only a vestige of the idea that the role of government is to keep the peace; in its stead is the notion that the force implicit in government is to implement social reform. Thus, the political debates are less concerned with keeping the peace than disturbing it; the argument is over the best way to use coercion to redistribute earnings and savings acquired peacefully through production and exchange. So long as this redistributionist sentiment prevails, social reformers will vie with each other to accommodate the sentiment. We are not likely, under these conditions, to find individuals vying with each other to keep the peace.

    "'Were government limited to its principled role, as opposed to the statist or social-reformer concept, officials at all levels would concern themselves with the codification of the thou-shalt-nots and their enforcement. Common justice—everyone equal before the law as before God—would be their hallmark. We, the voters, would judge candidates on their sense of justice, on their ability to maintain a fair field and no favor, on their competence at writing prohibitive law, and on their skills in keeping peace and order.

    "'Speeches would bear little resemblance to what candidates are promising today.

    "'Men with the potential statesmanship so sorely required … will be drawn from obscurity … when an audience exists, and not before … persons who understand the difference between a government of social reformers and a government to keep peace and order—with a strong preference for the latter…. We shall hear answers to our hopes and prayers when we know what to ask for.'"
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  21. watcherchris

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    By Olde Geezer...

    This is Bravo Sierra if you know how to read it for what it is.

    Most of us earn what we have by a process of labor...which often involves Risk Taking in our occupations. We did not get it for free.

    When someone in leadership positions talks about Wealth Redistribution be very aware that they are not talking about Risk Redistribution.....and those phonies on Fox News do not bring this aspect out to the public.

    Wealth Redistribution is not Risk Redistribution.

    What these Ishmaelites are promoting is a type of Bondage...involuntary Servitude or Slavery....though you will never hear any experts so describe.,

    See Amendment XIII to the Constitution of the United States.


    This too is Bravo Sierra...


    The reason churches find themselves in this predicament is that they have taken out a government issued Tax Number.


    Churches should never take out a government issued Tax number..for this is not Separation of Church and State...on both the part of the Churches and also the Government

    Whenever a Church does something the government does not like or approve they can be audited....

    Churches should never take out a tax number.....

    For a tax number means that the Church is now a State run and regulated Corporation...and not separate.

    You are never supposed to be able to think this far or understand how a phony Ishmaelite works....


    A Tax number is on the part of a Church is not Separation of Church and State.

    Both the Churches and Governments are at fault for this ignorance and they will never willingly teach you to think this far while they do their Ishmaelite Herding.


    Be Warned the Ishmaelites preying on your ignorance of many things.


    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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    by lonewolf...

    LOL LOL LOL...lonewolf......

    When we were building the first of the 688 Los Angeles class submarines...there was installed in the ceilings on all four torpedo racks ...a set of drop down shielding...to surround the warheads of certain torpedoes.
    This shielding is no longer there today.

    Nuclear torpedoes are not a new thing.....they have been around a long long time...

    There is also a feature of certain thermo nuclear devices wherein the yeild...the bang can be adjusted up or down as needed...

    This used to be called " dial a yeild. "
    Gives you the warm fuzzies....does it not???

    Do you not think that this nuclear feature today has been transferred to a more efficient tomahawk cruise missle...from torpedos???? Particularly a stealth cruise missile??

    The Subroc is a nuclear torpedo...and it is not new. What do you think is the state of the art today.

    UUM-44 SUBROC - Wikipedia

    Nuclear torpedoes are yesterdays weapons with the advancements in guidance systems and even modern chemical explosives.

    They are way in advance of the olde Torpex explosives of WW2.

    Cruise missiles and todays stealthy cruise missiles make much of olde nuclear torpedoes obsolete.

    Many submarines ...do not like to carry cruise missiles in their torpedo rooms as it limits the number of torpedoes they can carry.

    Our submarines today carry Tomahawk missiles in vertical launch tubes separate from the torpedo rooms...and I have worked this system as well.



    North Korea is a vassal state of China...and is under China's thumb. And China is Deep State...and by association so too North Korea..

    If North Korea wants to impress the world....solve their economic crisis...not their military crisis.

    North Korea ...like Soviet Russia ...is in a state wherein it takes all they have to maintain their military prowess...there are few to no extras....no live viable economy to produce goods and services.

    North Korea is 1920 or older in their economy ..there are no extras.

    I have seen no North Korean Cars...refrigerators, air conditioners, computers, cell phones....all the goods and services an economic juggernaut can produce and export.

    If North Korea wants to take it's place on the world stage....become able to produce these goods and services...not military prowess..

    For a super power is built on it's economic success....to produce the goods and services needed to make a live and viable economy. North Korea has none of this....while someone out here is working hard to keep us afraid of a country which has no extras to export for capital to get the things they do not produce.

    Someone out here has worked very very hard to keep us afraid of North Korea in like manner to how they worked hard to keep us afraid of the Soviet Union..

    When is the last time you saw a Russian Air conditioner, refrigerator, freezer, car, laptop...et al..same as North Korea.

    Be warned the Ishmaelites preying on your fear conditioning....to keep you afraid of your own shadow.

    You make better voters if you are afraid....


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  23. poltiregist

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    Whatever country you may reside , when lending institutions such as banks stop lending money you will know even government manipulation can not make them lend out money that inflation will guarantee to be a loss to the lender . Considering our present trajectory around the globe , it is more of a question of when that day will arrive than if it will arrive . Do you think a citizen of Venezuela could get a loan to buy a survival retreat unless a corrupt government official ordered it so ? As things collapse and the inflation snowball gets to rolling faster and bigger down the hill expect lenders to stop loaning but they will still expect payments on loans they have made before their no loan policy . Just something to ponder as we begin our journey into teotwawki together .
     
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  24. lonewolf

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    which is why getting out of debt is usually one of the prepping golden rules, servicing a debt means that one has less to spend on prepping supplies.
     
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  25. poltiregist

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    Information coming in " one source a high ranking U.S. General " - A Chinese defector claiming China's Government deliberately released the covid 19 virus . Furthermore Chinese government along with some other bad actor countries done a cyber attack on the U.S. election last November to make Joe Biden the proclaimed winner . The reported defector is now in hiding as the General said , if the F.B.I. , C.I. A. or K.G.B. can find him his life will be snuffed out to keep him quiet . The General was on News Max yesterday and obviously the two news anchors were appalled when he told the world this . The news anchors quickly said they were out of time and then done a disavow statement to the televised viewers , proclaiming they were upholding Joe Biden as the legitimate winner . All televised news is now under control of the Biden regime . ---- So for my search for this interview with the General has been fruitless . Do you think the Biden Regime would have this scrubbed off the web ? It definitely was televised " as I watched it " . The General no doubt will be interrogated and possibly suicided .
     
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    China is Deep State...created and manufactured by the Deep State and so too is the Biden Administration.100% Deep State.
    And the Deep State is loyal to no country or people...but loyal to their profits and or power.

    And the Deep State is Ishmael....whose goal is to put the whole world in bondage.

    Ishmael = Bondage...involuntary servitude..


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  27. Old Geezer

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    Yet another unregistered assault knife used in killing spree. Register them, then ban them! Sharp objects have no place in a civilized society!

    https://summit.news/2021/06/25/3-dead-3-injured-after-attack-by-knifeman-in-wurzburg-germany/

    "3 people have been killed and 6 injured by a 'knifeman' in Wurzburg, Germany, with clips posted to social media showing a crowd chasing the suspect, who is a 24-year-old Somali.

    “'Police in the city have reportedly arrested the suspected perpetrator following a major operation,' reports the Express.'"

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    https://www.breitbart.com/africa/20...responsible-for-massacre-of-over-130-people/#

    "Child soldiers 'between the ages of 12 and 14' perpetrated a massacre in Burkina Faso this month that killed over 130 people, Burkina Faso’s government said on Thursday.

    “'The attackers were mostly children between the ages of 12 and 14,' Ousseni Tamboura, a Burkina Faso government spokesman, told reporters in the nation’s capital, Ouagadougou, on June 24.

    "Tamboura referred to a massacre of residents in the northeastern village of Solhan on June 4. The incident marked Burkina Faso’s deadliest Islamist terror attack since 2015.

    “'On the night of June 4-5, scores of jihadists linked to al-Qaeda and the Islamic State (IS) group swarmed the village of Solhan, located near the border of Mali and Niger, and staged a ruthless attack on civilians, including women and children,' Agence France-Presse (AFP) reported on June 14.

    “'I saw them arrive on their motorcycles. There were over a hundred – so many I couldn’t count them. They killed a baby who wasn’t even crawling yet and left its mother alive,' a survivor of the attack identified only as Amadou told AFP."
     
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  29. TexDanm

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    ROTFLMFAO (Yet another unregistered assault knife used in killing spree. Register them, then ban them! Sharp objects have no place in a civilized society!)

    Lets instead issue them to everyone and require all adult citizens to carry them. If you won't carry them and you get assaulted it isn't a crime...It is just a case of survival of the fittest. On the flip side if you attack and armed person without cause and you survive it should draw a death sentence. If you are killed by a leagal knife carrying citizen in his defence or in the defence of others he should collect a large bounty for your extermination. If you are caught not carrying a means of selfdefence then your civil and citizen based rights should be suspended. You only deserve in the way of rights that which you are prepared and willing to fight for.

    Anyone willing and able to prove a high level of profisiantcy should be allowed to upgrade that knife to a handgun.
     
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  30. Old Geezer

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    My late paternal grandfather (may God's Infinite Mercy shine upon him) had to deal with a sharp-object-wielding felon. His revolver's bullet-placement was a "revelation" to the then soprano-voiced aggressor. The aggression simply went out of the felon. Miracles do happen ... especially when aided by flying lead.

    I would that reason would suffice for all two-legged non-feathered beings on our little blue ball. Such is not the case. Such are the realities with which we must abide. Call us cruel; yet people of wisdom are brought to unhappy choices when put-upon by their lessers. Those who openly disobey the commandments of their Creator fall outside His Mercy ... and ours.
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  31. TexDanm

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    “This become an excessively long missive and I will understand if you just glance through it.”

    I knew a one legged old man when I was a kid. he was my firth cousins other grandfather. he lost his leg in a hunting accident when he was a fairly young man. when he was in his early 70s a punk tried to push him aside and break in lie at a theater when he was taking one of his grand kids to the movies. When the cops got there he was the last man standing with three punks down and out. He was a tough old bird that had seen hard times. Messing with him was like deciding to french kiss a rattle snake and couldn't have a good ending!!! Times were different then and the cops were quite pleased with his actions and arrested the boys when they woke up for "assaulting" an elderly man. LOL. he lived until he was nearly 100 and I don't think that those boys would have had a bit more luck with him the week before he died. He was tough and never took anything much from anyone.

    Getting old changes a man. For me at least, death has lost most of its threat to me. If you attack me my only effort will be to maim you. Eyeballs, throats and testicles with be the aim of every blow and if I get my hands on you something is going to be RUINED. It is my hope to die in almost any way other then laying in a nursing home somewhere. Give me a reason and a half a chance and I will be happy to die fighting some punk.

    Since I am not as fast or strong as I used to be my methods are a lot different from what they were when I was younger. If I hold my hands up you might think that I am in a defensive posture. What is about to happen is I am going to try and gouge your eyes out while I crush your throat. The one thing that seems to be as strong as ever is my hands and grip. You can't watch or block both at the same time. It helps a lot that i am ambidextrous or at least multidextrous. Some things I do lefthanded best and some things I do righthanded best, but I can do anything just about with either hand. My strongest punch is with my left hand, but my strongest grip and arm are my right hand. This allows for some rather unexpected attack responses.

    I am not going to allow a punk the first blow and if I land the first blow there most likely won’t be a second because he will be blinded or unable to breathe or maybe now a nutless wonder. I have no problem crushing walnuts, pecans or even some Brazil nuts. If I get ahold of him I’m going to CRUSH whatever I grab…I also bite, headbutt and and expert with knees and elbows. What I will not do again is break my hands beating on some knot heads face. Been there and done that and their face, as far as the pain is concerned, recovers sooner than my hands do. I avoid hairpulling. I, with my luck, would do that with someone like me. You could lift me off the ground by my hair when I was a kid and it didn’t even hurt me.

    Life is about what you make out of it. I have tried to help people but learned fast that you can’t help those that won’t or don’t help themselves. For one thing they don’t appreciate it and for another you are wasting your efforts that would be better offered to others that just needed a little help but were doing everything possible to help themselves. I never offer anything to a beggar. I used to occasionally offer a beggar a job. I owned my company and could often have benefited with a little help. Not once did any of them accept work. A few actually cussed me out. One, fortunately for him, was fast enough that I couldn’t catch him. He left everything behind though and I burned it all in my burning barrel that evening. Just say no if you don’t want to work. If you get ugly about it though and either throw something at me or take a swing at me I will bail out of my truck and kick your lazy ass. A lot of beggars are nothing more than just junkies that want money to buy drugs.

    People after that fall are going to be forced to deal with all the many realities that they now ignored. Picky eaters will starve to death. Trusting people will be victims. Lazy people with be cold, hot and soon sick. People in the easy times develop habits that are not at all survival friendly in hard times. The reality is that a great majority of people are not going to be very nice or trustworthy when life gets hard. Family and friends may not be people that are worth your effort and will be the first to stab you in the back.

    Make sure that you know who to trust and that they are tuff minded enough to not hesitate when they need to drop an attacker before he does anyone any harm. In my experience and belief most people are not thieves or criminals not because they are inherently good rather they are afraid of getting caught and in trouble with the cops. Take that away and there are going to be a LOT of dangerous people out there that you might never have expected.

    When people get hungry and their blood sugar starts to fall they will get mean and unpredictable. When their loved ones get in bad shape they will kill you for what you have. A lot of people are going to die because they just could not do what they have to do to survive. The old “Quick and Dead” thing means a lot of different things but for sure in a survival situation shooting second isn’t going to work very often. If you run your head and threaten me I am going to take you at your word and just kill you. Those that can’t or won’t do this are eventually going the be “the dead”.

    When you take out the cops and don’t replace it with something it is going to be the survival of the fittest and the fittest will often simply be the one that shot first. I used to spend hours chasing cans around with a pistol training myself to hit things without actually consciously aiming. My hands automatically would place a bullet where my eyes went. I am out of practice now but once a skill is learned it is easier to sharpen that skill again than to learn it.

    Over time the stupid and the evil will get massively thinned out. Honor will once again be a matter of life and death. People that betray trust will be killed. No trial, no second chance. They will be treated as horse thieves were in the old west. Find them, catch them and kill them. When you take something from someone that they depend on to survive you are at the very LEAST an attempted murderer. Only in a weak minds society like we have now is an attempted murderer rewarded for his incompetence and allowed a short vacation in a nice prison and then allowed back out to try again. Things will be much simpler and more streamlined after things go down.
     
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    Hmmmmmmm!!!??? Horse thieves....!!???

    Wondering if Hijacking someone's car is tantamount to horse thievery???

    As I recall....in many places across this country ....leaving someone afoot by stealing their hores...was similar to a death sentence......for it was to leave someone committed to death by leaving them afoot in danger and in a hostile environment..


    This is why horse thieves were often killed...or hung...if you like.

    I am not sure this is even taught to Americans now days......are we not to know this history????


    Be Warned the Ishmaelites .....keeping you ignorant of many many things..


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    When someone stole a man’s horse it took away their ability to travel. In many cases they could no longer grow food because without a horse you couldn't break enough land to feed a family. In places that are living closer to the point of starvation a thief is little different from a murderer.

    I can assure you that after things collapse a lot of the petty criminals of today will be quickly killed. If you rob me, even now, and I catch you in the act, I WILL kill you. That is legal in Texas. We don't have the love affair with criminals that other places in the US seems to have.

    Within 6 months of the fall there will be very few thieves or gang bangers still alive. Texas CAN be a rough place, but I have always liked to walk at night and never have had a problem. There are so many good honest people that habitually carry guns that criminals tend to be a bit standoffish especially in the small towns and rural areas. I almost never leave the house without a gun in my pocket. Good news, I have never had to use it even as a threat. I did pull out a shotgun one time. It was a little sawed off break action single shot. I took the barrel off and chased 4 crazy asshats back into their car and down the road.
     
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    I don't watch much televised news since the U.S. fell , but what I have watched didn't mention what is going on right now in South Africa . Another prepper brought this country to my attention and the effort of countries across the globe to force news outlets to either not report on it or play the situation down . A site where you can find amateur video's of the riots , murdering and ransacking can be found on " bit chute " . They even burned their agricultural food crops along with destroying transportation ability . Starvation is predicted by some for those that survive the mass murdering taking place . Venezuela fell , now South Africa has fallen . Some see the fall and reaction of the citizens of these countries as to be equivalent as to looking into a crystal ball as to the upcoming fall of the U.S. . Again a lot of amateur information leaking out on " bit Chute " If you haven't already you may want to put " Bit Chute " on your favorite list to bypass the government censored news outlets . Blacks murdering whites in this country has been going on for many years but now , I am talking about a whole new level .
     
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  36. lonewolf

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    given the way that a lot of people have been behaving during the last 2 years the fall of civilization is very close and may be closer than anyone thinks.
    only humans can have their mental health disturbed by something as simple as sitting in their own home or going nuts just because someone asked them to wear a face covering.
    so its not going to take much to make the whole human race go mad , they are collectively almost there already.
     
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    The country of Cuba has hit the decayed level of collapse . Starvation and poverty has caused a revolt with no solution for a better trajectory . Again as done with South Africa imploding , Governments around the globe are either ignoring or under reporting as they attempt to keep their subjects on a similar path toward Socialism / Communism . The Biden regime certainly doesn't want Cuban refugees as they tend to vote for freedom an thus vote against the Democrat Party .
     
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    I can " very highly " recommend our members to go to the " Most Banned Network In The World " . Go on Bit Chute , type in Cuban Revolt and pull up Alex Jones's Info wars . This video seems to be produced with Mr. Jones cold sober , not on pot or anything . This broadcast I don't think many serious preppers / survivalist could disagree with . This is about as serious a broadcast as it gets .
     
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    There have been a number of wars in the last century and of course with it various chaos....to accompany. This fingerprint of chaos seems to be continuing right unto today.


    Have any of you been hearing that certain natural rescorces have been found or known about for years...in Haiti???

    Think that through carefully ...then go to Google Earth or Maps and then look up Haiti!! Then scan or fade/withdraw back sufficient to include Cuba...then Venezuela....

    Notice how close to Hiati is both Cuba and then Venezuela.

    When lots of things are happening in the world..accompanied by chaos....you might want to take in to mind resources and geography...both.


    What the learned Elders taught me is what the "Fallen " Powers of this world do ...when they want resources to stay off the marketplace and a nation into storage...which has the effect of keeping resources off the market...is put in a communist type government.

    For Communists are way to stupid to make things work at a profit....but they are perfect for putting a nation into storage and keeping the resources off or out of the marketplace. They also prevent competitors from coming in and taking the resources.

    Next to Communists for running the same program is a radical Islamic government.

    Anyone catching on yet???

    Destabilization techniques are a specialty of certain of our government departments...agencies.

    They have lots of thinkers..think tanks working on destabilization techniques and how to apply them to specific nations and people....including America...our USA.

    That should be obvious to some of us by now.

    Keep in mind someone wants socialism to be the norm here.!!

    Binary reasoning...hot cold...on off...start stop..good cop ..bad cop.....et al.

    Is America supposed to be binary reasoning...or wonderous variety..the fruits of correct Godly reasoning.????

    Catching on yet????

    What is the One type of reasoning they do not want in Socialist/Communist nations????


    Just a thought.

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  40. Old Geezer

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    Catalytic crime

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/why-are-thieves-stealing-so-many-catalytic-converters

    "... US car owners are being preyed upon by thieves, because South African mine owners are being preyed upon by their government. "

    "Back in December the LVRJ’s Glenn Puit quoted Sean McGuigan of Red Rock Repair: 'I would say over the last four months there has been a definite spike in catalytic converter thefts. Basically they are being taken in the middle of the night, from the cars that (thieves) can access, high-tech sport utilities, then they are resold on the scrap market.'

    "So, if thieves are working overtime to steal these metals, why aren’t miners working just as hard?

    "There are only three countries PMGs can be mined in any quantity: South Africa, Zimbabwe, and Russia, not cauldrons of laissez-faire capitalism.

    "In fact, as Rule points out, there is much discussion of nationalizing the mines in South Africa. 'In a circumstance like that,' Rule said, 'the shareholders are unwilling to put sustaining capital investments in the mines and unwilling to open new mines. The mines get more and more neglected and more and more long of tooth. The management substitutes labor, which is cheap[,] for capital, which is dear, which they might not own.

    "The youth unemployment rate in South Africa is 70 percent, so hiring more workers is popular, but, the workers are unskilled, unproductive, and 'because they're not allowed to employ much capital, are very, very, very inefficient. You're substituting labor for capital there. The labor force needs to be paid more, but they're unproductive so they can't be paid for.'

    "South African labor needs to employ more capital, but they can't because mining companies are afraid to provide the capital. These same companies need to open new mines as well, along with providing sustaining capital investments in the existing mines. But why would they, when they're not sure who's going to own the mines?"
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    As we enter teotwawki I see the fear level on this forum rising . We at least on some level or supposedly preppers / survivalist . The most common response from some is to deny the bad ahead . Therefore I have decided to quite posting at least for now and quietly for my amusement watch the posts as society implodes .
     
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  42. lonewolf

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    I for one dont fear anything, a REAL prepper knows that bad things happen thats why they prepare.
     
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  43. Old Geezer

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    Even the Communist News Network realizes that we are going to get terrorist bombings in the not-too-distant future.

    "Biden's Incompetent Team Let Thousands of Potential Terrorists Into 'Secure' Airport Due to 1 Disastrous Decision"


    https://www.westernjournal.com/bide...sts-secure-airport-due-1-disastrous-decision/

    "A poor vetting process is raising questions about who has been allowed entry into Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul.

    "The United States began issuing special immigrant visas in a digital electronic format to Afghan civilians attempting to evacuate the country through emergency flights.

    "A major issue with this format is that these visas reportedly do not have any names or document numbers to determine who’s who, according to CNN.

    "The Biden administration’s decision to not have identifying markers on key documents could create a dangerous situation where unvetted people are entering the United States or allied nations."

    Hear that?! "... or allied nations."
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  44. poltiregist

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    https://www.theorganicprepper.com/great-reset/ No doubt some will find the read on the posted link ,too horrible to mentally accept but reading this , you will not be able to say you weren't warned . Believe it or not , it will not change the future .
     
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  45. Old Geezer

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    If you can't enforce a law, then it doesn't exist.

    The fighting military, the killing military, WILL separate itself from the deep state. And if any foreign forces attempt to come here, there will be hell to pay and I do mean nuclear warheads. The president's "football" doesn't contain all the codes, just the big ones. There are colonels out their with field-grade warheads in their possession. Not to mention enough nerve gas to do D.C. twenty times over.

    NATO is hollow. Russia can't get its young men to show up for military duty. China cannot project its forces beyond its immediate perimeter.

    Might makes right.

    My dad and his brothers lived on the money of illegal operations. Felons control the black market and without the black market, the deep state doesn't get full funding. Does anybody imagine that D.C. only runs on taxes?! Ha ha ha!!!! D.C. is drug-dealing central. Imagine what would happen if our Air Force shut-down the transport of heroin and cocaine -- no funding for the deep-state fat cats! The Air Force is part of the conduit, boys and girls. Duh!

    D.C. needs its monsters and if its monsters turn on them, there will be nowhere for these desk-driving maggots to run.

    Try to impose B.S. mandates on the America's South or America's Breadbasket States and the federal boys in their cheap suits will be possum food. National Guard armories will be opened to the veterans and the deserters. Push the wrong people and they won't push back, they will put a bullet in your forehead.
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    In all probability the world NOW has an " world Emperor " telling the individual countries leaders what to do . Whom our emperor is , is yet to be revealed . Possibly a co-reign exist . -- A disturbing piece of information reached me today and as for as I know is " unsubstantiated " . After the dust settles over the U.S. puppet reign's decree that all businesses that have over 100 employees must require all the employees to submit to the government's shot , an even more communist decree is waiting to be issued . All government checks will cease to be issued to the unvaccinated . That includes retirement checks from the military or federal workplace , welfare , food stamps and SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS . I am not sure if the rumored decree includes State issued checks . --- If any of you guys have any info on this " substantiated or not " , I would be interested in hearing about your information .--- As for as me and my household , we have been preparing to live without any income for years . Now it may be only a matter of weeks until this transforms into reality . We will remain unvaccinated .
     
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    The demographic with the highest rate of those unvaccinated / unwilling to get the c19 vaccine is the African-American community. If Big Brother stops sending-out government checks to them, America's urban areas will burn.

    There's been a bunch of push-back on mandated vaccines and now the biden nonadministration is saying that it will not be until 2022 that any edict will be enforced.

    This administration could wind up destroying the political careers of Democrats in states around the nation during the mid-term elections. If that happens, a lot of Democrats will be angrier than they already are at biden's controllers. It is pretty bad when the main stream media begins questioning who is in control in D.C.. They put biden in, then him or his puppet-masters screw the pooch in Afghanistan so bad that the stench of the act is smelled worldwide. Commie Kamala Harris refuses to be seen in public with biden. The media didn't like her during the Democrat primaries.

    This biden administration may get to the point where it can no longer govern. It is not just Republicans who are calling for his ouster.
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  49. lonewolf

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    History repeating itself.
    those that fail to learn the lessons of history are destined to repeat them, we are actually seeing it happen right in front of our eyes.
     
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    "Orban: Mass Migration Agenda Part of ‘Global Plan’ to Create ‘New Proletariat’ in the West"

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...part-global-plan-create-new-proletariat-west/

    Quotes in color Blue:

    Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orbán believes the mass migration agenda is part of a “global plan” to create a “new proletariat” in the West, advanced by people who care nothing for culture and national identity and consider only economics.

    “Like those before me, we are concerned about the advent of the New Marxist, New Leftist ‘woke’ movement, as it is called in America. We can see that already in kindergartens they want to miseducate our children; they use children as Pride activists, they are telling children about the ‘free choice of genre — this is part of the New Marxist ‘woke’ programme,” he warned.


    Decades of Soviet communist domination, however, has “inoculated” former Eastern Bloc countries such as Hungary and Poland against “the ‘woke’ virus”, in his view — “our history is protecting us against the cultural left.”
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