Collapse Of Civilization

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  1. Old Geezer

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    "The Year of the New Normal Fascist"

    https://consentfactory.org/2021/12/16/the-year-of-the-new-normal-fascist/

    Article quotation in color Blue:

    And so, as 2021 goose-steps toward its fanatical finish, it is time for my traditional year-end wrap-up. It’s “The Year of the Ox” in the Chinese zodiac, but I’m christening it “The Year of the New Normal Fascist.”

    And what a phenomenally fascist year it has been!

    I’m not talking amateur fascism. I am talking professional Class-A fascism. Government and corporate sanctified fascism. Bug-eyed, spittle-flecked, hate-drunk fascism. I’m talking mobs of New Normal fascists shrieking hatred and threats at “the Unvaccinated” as they are dragged off “Vaccinated Only” trains, painting Nazi-era messages on their windows of their stores, leaders of government fomenting mass hatred, TV commentators literally quoting sadistic Nazi SS doctors, leftists going full-fascist on Facebook, concentration camps, Goebbelsian propaganda, censorship of dissent … the whole nine yards.

    Here in Europe, things are particularly fascist. One by one, New Normal countries are rolling out social-segregation systems, ordering “lockdowns” of “the Unvaccinated,” and otherwise persecuting those who refuse to conform to official New Normal ideology. Austria has made “vaccinations” mandatory. Germany is about to follow suit. “Covid passes” have been approved in the UK. Greece is fining “Unvaccinated” pensioners by reducing the amount of their state-pension payments. Swedes are “chipping” themselves. And so on.

    In New Normal Germany, “the Unvaccinated” are under de facto house arrest. We are banned from society. We are banned from traveling. We are banned from protesting. Our writings are censored. We’re demonized and dehumanized by the New Normal government, the state and corporate media, and the New Normal masses on a daily basis. New Normal goon squads roam the streets, brutalizing pensioners, raiding barber shops, checking “papers,” measuring social distances, literally, as in with measuring sticks. The Gestapo even arrested Santa Claus for not wearing a mask at a Christmas market. In the schools, fascist New Normal teachers ritually humiliate “Unvaccinated” children, forcing them to stand in front of the class and justify their “Unvaccinated” status, while the “Vaccinated” children and their parents are applauded, like some New Normal version of the Hitler Youth. When New Normal Germany’s new Chancellor, Olaf Scholz, announced that, “for my government there are no more red lines as far as doing what needs to be done,” apparently he wasn’t joking. It’s only a matter of time until he orders New Normal Propaganda Minister Karl Lauterbach to make his big Sportpalast speech, where he will ask the New Normals if they want “total war” … and I think you know the rest of this story.

    But this isn’t just a story about New Normal Germany, or New Normal Europe, or New Normal Australia. And it isn’t just a story about mass hysteria, or an “overreaction” to a corona virus. The “New Normal” is a global GloboCap co-production, a multi-trillion-dollar co-production, which has been in development for quite some time, and this year has gone exactly to script.

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  2. lonewolf

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    history repeating itself , how true and how pathetically "woke".
    I thought "new normal" was only spoken of in prepping and survival circles but here we have it in the main media. probably also called "the great reset".
     
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  3. poltiregist

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    OldGeezers above post collaborates the thread shtf . Yes Canada's Trudeau , confirms the leaders plan around the globe for the "great reset " . Agenda 30 in progress .
     
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    An excellent post and link Lonewolf . Some of us have been trying to warn our members of this . I suspect those that have already submitted their bodies or participated in their children or grandchildren submitting to the agenda 21 / agenda 30 plan will not be able to mentally admit their folly .
     
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  6. lonewolf

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    I saw a piece the other day about some guy who had invented a microchip that can be injected under your skin and will hold all your data that is on your credit and debit card, all you will have to do is hold your arm over the card reader, no need to carry cash or cards. dosent bear thinking about, the possibilities are endless for an unscrupulous govt.
    if that isnt Agenda 21 I dont know what is.
     
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  7. Old Geezer

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    "The Criminalization of Preppers in Turkey: Will Our Country Be Next?"

    https://www.theorganicprepper.com/the-criminalization-of-preppers-in-turkey/

    Referenced on Zero Hedge

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/criminalization-preppers-turkey-will-your-country-be-next

    "Your country is being rocked by hyperinflation. Your fiat money is worthless. Forex is regulated to the point of being impossible. Crypto is banned. The price of food has shot up 27.1%.

    "What do you do?

    "You don’t want to just watch your life savings be vaporized. You aren’t going to watch your family starve.

    "And so, you may think it’s a wise idea to put your money into something that will retain its value. This is the reason people invest in gold and silver after all, isn’t it? This is the reason James Wesley Rawles pushes guns, tools, and gear for investment, right?

    "And that’s exactly what people in Turkey started to do.

    "People there have started turning to tangibles. They saw what was coming – how things were taking a turn for the worse – and so they attempted to prepare for it.

    "Then, the ironically named Justice and Development Party (AKP) submitted a bill to the Turkish Parliament asking for fines of anywhere between what would be $7000 – $144,000 USD for those 'hoarding….food and other goods'.

    "Consider that it was in early 2020 that the mainstream media criticized those they deemed to be “hoarders” in unison. Have too many cans of soup in your cart? According to the media, you are now worthy of public shame.

    "It was during this same time that we saw a Brooklyn man have his home raided by agents who confiscated his supply of N95 masks for “hoarding” them. Keep in mind he had purchased all of these masks. They were not stolen. They were legally his possessions."

    "Look at what we’ve witnessed in Venezuela – yet another collectivist society that has been rocked by hyperinflation. It was there, after communist policies caused a 20% shortage of basic goods, that Attorney General Luisa Ortega Diaz called for prosecutors to target those who were 'hoarders' of staples of daily life."
     
  8. Old Geezer

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    "'Mass Formation Psychosis’ Admittedly Used by Governments as Tool of Population Control"

    https://summit.news/2022/01/03/mass...by-governments-as-tool-of-population-control/

    Quotes from above article in color Blue:

    Dr. Robert Malone’s assertions about “mass formation psychosis” in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic are underscored by the fact that authorities in the UK admitted to using “totalitarian” methods of “mind control” to instill fear in the population.

    In Canada, the military also admitted launching a psychological operations campaign against their own people in order to manipulate them into compliance with COVID-19 restrictions and mandates.

    During his viral podcast with Joe Rogan after he was banned by Twitter, Malone explained how the global population was being manipulated into remaining in a constant state of hysterical anxiety via mass formation psychosis.

    “What the heck happened to Germany in the 20s and 30s? Very intelligent, highly educated population, and they went barking mad. And how did that happen?” asked Malone.

    “The answer is mass formation psychosis.”

    “When you have a society that has become decoupled from each other and has free-floating anxiety in a sense that things don’t make sense, we can’t understand it, and then their attention gets focused by a leader or series of events on one small point just like hypnosis, they literally become hypnotized and can be led anywhere,” he added.

    Malone’s summary of how health authorities seized on the unifying threat of the COVID-19 pandemic and exaggerated its thread to create mass hysteria is backed up by leaked details of how the UK government manipulated its population during the early days of the pandemic.

    As first revealed by author and journalist Laura Dodsworth, scientists in the UK working as advisors for the government admitted using what they now admit to be “unethical” and “totalitarian” methods of instilling fear in the population in order to control behaviour during the pandemic.

    The London Telegraph reported the comments made by Members of the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviour (SPI-B), a sub-committee of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) the government’s chief scientific advisory group.

    The report quotes a briefing from March 2020, as the first lockdown was decreed, that stated the government should drastically increase “the perceived level of personal threat” that the virus poses because “a substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened”.

    One scientist with the SPI-B admits that “In March [2020] the Government was very worried about compliance and they thought people wouldn’t want to be locked down. There were discussions about fear being needed to encourage compliance, and decisions were made about how to ramp up the fear.”

    The unnamed scientist adds that “The way we have used fear is dystopian.”

    The scientist further confessed that “The use of fear has definitely been ethically questionable. It’s been like a weird experiment. Ultimately, it backfired because people became too scared.”

    Another separate scientist on the subcommittee professed “You could call psychology ‘mind control’. That’s what we do… clearly we try and go about it in a positive way, but it has been used nefariously in the past.”

    Another scientist warned that “We have to be very careful about the authoritarianism that is creeping in,” adding “people use the pandemic to grab power and drive through things that wouldn’t happen otherwise.”
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  9. lonewolf

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    does not surprise me one bit, always thought there was more to this pandemic than a mere disease. frighten the sheeple enough and they'll submit to anything.
     
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  10. Old Geezer

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    The persecution of Christians is a key component of international collectivism's tenets. University propaganda professors perpetually attack Christianity and do not tolerate pro-Christian views among their students.

    What if Christians were offended by the symbol of the moon and star?! The Left would deem them turbo-bigots. It is OK for blacks to hate white people. It is OK for Muslims to hate Christianity. It is OK for communist China to keep their Muslims in concentration camps. It is OK for Australia to keep their covid-exposed serfs in concentration camps. Welcome to the New International Borg.

    "Christian Nurse Wins Tribunal After Being Illegally Sacked For Wearing Cross"

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...ter-being-illegally-sacked-for-wearing-cross/

    "A Catholic nurse has won a tribunal following an unfair dismissal from an NHS hospital after she wore a cross necklace to work.

    "Mary Onuoha, a theatre practitioner nurse for Britain’s socialised National Health Service, was bullied out of her job by Croydon University Hospital bosses for wearing a cross, with an employment tribunal ruling she was unfairly dismissed.

    "Onuoha, who was born in Nigeria and is a devout Catholic had worked at the hospital for eighteen years and claimed she faced a 'campaign of harassment' by hospital bosses who tried to force her to remove her small gold cross necklace during work hours.

    "At the tribunal, the panel sided with Ms Onuoha and said she was forced to quit her nursing job in 2020 following her employers creating an 'offensive, hostile and intimidating environment' for her to work in."
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  11. lonewolf

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    in a lot of industries the wearing of any jewellery, religious or otherwise, is forbidden as it can catch in machinery or be used as a weapon by an attacker, say in a prison or mental hospital.
     
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  12. Old Geezer

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    I've got a stack of industrial accident horror stories.

    Working around electricity wearing rings and a metal watch band can get you bug-zapped.

    Nurses wear jewelry. This is NOT forbidden.

    In the case of the Christian nurse, her plight fell on her due to her Faith. The politically correct would NEVER tell a Muslim to conceal emblems of their faith. Christianity is being attacked by the world-wide collectivist movement. Communists curse Christianity.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/03/_church_desecration_in_europe_under_islam.html

    https://tnc.news/2021/08/23/a-map-o...d-since-the-residential-school-announcements/

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/09/anti-christian-persecution-around-world-jack-kerwick/

    https://cms.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/01/anti-christian-oppression-around-world-jack-kerwick

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  13. lonewolf

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    I'm not sure that Britain is a christian country anymore, people say they are christian but go into any church and the congregation is small and mainly older people.
    the only time most people go to church is for the big show off wedding and they never step in one ever again.
     
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  14. poltiregist

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    On multiple televised new programs yesterday , the same group that gave us the bat virus are now working on a new biological attack . Dr Fuci and friends are now working on ways to turn real men into homosexuals . They are injecting male monkeys with a vaccine to turn them gay , so as to study how effective their plan is . In todays environment I wouldn't trust any concoction the government wants injected into the human body .
     
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  15. Old Geezer

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    Holy crap, why do you believe that sh##?! Do you want to?!

    Can't fix a person with gender dysphoria. Can't make a straight go queer. Guys in prison only engage in that sickness out of desperation. We are hard-wired ("ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny"), then we humans get identity training. By age 5, we are who we are. In the womb, a fetus gets a male brain or a female brain. A female born to a woman with an ovarian tumor causing the production of androgens has a 30% chance of developing homosexual behavioral patters. The other females who were fetuses experiencing this pathologic environment often engage in male behavioral patterns even if they do not become homosexual. Males who do not have a positive male image(s) in their youth (doesn't have to be their biologic father) often engage in homosexual behaviors. Young teenage boys raped by homosexual men have a higher chance of engaging in homosexual behavioral patterns. All of the above is well established in the literature. Current perversions of science have attempted to undo science, yet they have failed. And a physician who commits abortion will never be accepted by his or her God -- they were put here to "do no harm".

    Brain-washing only works on the weak. One of my degrees is in psychology. I have attempted to be hypnotized. Never works. Turns out that my ego is rather immutable. Ask my wife, she will agree.

    Others are the same.

    The Left is playing with fire. Other would-be oppressors have been killed for far less. The coming SHTF events -- and there will be many, large and small -- will take-out the weak and leave the strong to include monsters on the Left and Right.

    “And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.”
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  16. lonewolf

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    if that is true even less people will want to be vaccinated, with anything, in the future.
     
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    The only sort of hypnosis that works on me is selfhypnosis. When my back was making my life a living hell I often found some relief through that. Pain can be turned off to some extent.

    Old Geezer the problem is that our educational system and the danm idiot box has programed our kids to accept thoughts from outside without question. People these days are weak minded.
     
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  19. lonewolf

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    what was the point of that? was he having a bad day or something? as we say here "who pissed him off"?
     
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  20. Old Geezer

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    There's a popular pastime among blacks wherein an Asian or Caucasian person is slammed in the head to render them unconscious. The media suppresses the number of these incidents. Due to Leftist propaganda, blacks feel that whites should be considered the enemy (Critical Race Theory and all that), thus the looting of stores during non-riot situations, thus the attacks on whites and Asians. Too, whites and Asians are perceived as being weak by blacks. Whites and Asians could be prosecuted for fighting back. Look what happened to Bernhard Goetz for trying to save his own life.

    These assaults perpetually happen, but here's an article from 2021 on one such incident:

    "‘Knockout game’ could be reason for Bronx sucker-punch attack, NYPD says"

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/25/knockout-game-could-be-reason-for-bronx-sucker-punch-attack/

    "A thug randomly sucker-punched a 47-year-old man — breaking his jaw — in what cops describe as a “possible knockout game” in the Bronx, disturbing surveillance video shows.

    "The victim was walking on East 176th Street near Walton Avenue in Mount Hope just before 1:30 a.m. Jan. 20 when four strangers passed him in the opposite direction, police said.

    "Video shows one of the men suddenly slugging the victim in the side of the face, knocking him to the ground — without saying a word.

    "The assault may have been part of a 'knockout game,' cops said, referring to the sick spree of assaults that terrorized New Yorkers a few years ago.
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    This "game" goes back years. Police can't do anything about it lest they be deemed "racists" by the Left. Here's an article from 2017:

    "People are terrified they’ll be next victim of ‘knockout game’"


    https://nypost.com/2017/10/28/people-are-terrified-theyll-be-next-victim-of-knockout-game/

    "Like a zombie in a Halloween horror flick, the “knockout game” refuses to die — and its latest, twisted variation is terrifying New Yorkers.

    “'There is no point to it, it’s crazy,' said Charisma Jano-Baptiste, 28, as she stood steps from where a man was attacked last week in DUMBO by a teen playing the ‘game’ — who then took a selfie with his victim.

    The 43-year-old victim was walking near the Shake Shack at Old Fulton and Water streets at 9:15 pm Thursday when he was clocked by the teen attacker, cops said.

    “It’s not cool,” said a worried Shake Shack employee. “Yeah, I’m scared. What if I’m next?”

    "The last time the ‘game’ — whose goal is to slug a stranger into unconsciousness— was played was September, when Lower East Sider Susan Farina, 53, was socked as she walked her dog.

    "Last year, a 14-year-old Queens boy was charged with a hate crime after he admitted to attacking a Muslim man outside a mosque.

    "The boy allegedly intended to target someone at random as part of the “knockout game,” but ended up beating Mohamed Rasheed Khan so badly, Khan required surgery for broken bones in his face.

    "Some question if cops can stop such a random phenomenon."

    More articles on this fun pastime for those interested:

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=the+knockout+game&atb=v140-1&ia=web

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    Random violence in Los Angeles, murder and mayhem are now the order of the day.

    "UCLA grad student stabbed to death while working at LA luxury furniture store"

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/ucla-grad-student-stabbed-death-working-la-luxury-furniture-store

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    "A UCLA graduate student was stabbed to death last week in a random daytime attack while working at an upscale furniture store in Los Angeles, police said.

    "Brianna Kupfer, 24, was working alone inside Croft Furniture on North La Brea Avenue on Thursday about 1:50 p.m. when a man walked in and attacked her with a knife, according to the Los Angeles Police Department.

    "The Pacific Palisades student was studying architecture and design at UCLA, Fox11 reported. Kupfer graduated from the University of Miami before returning to her home state to pursue a graduate degree.

    "Her father told CBSLA that Kupfer was a gifted artist and loved by all.

    "The suspect is believed to be homeless and there is no known motive for the attack, police said.

    "Police described the suspect as a tall, thin, Black male, wearing a dark hoodie, sunglasses, a white N-95 mask, dark skinny jeans, dark shoes and carrying a dark backpack."
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  21. Old Geezer

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    Following from the above post:

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/202...-after-homeless-man-attacked-her-at-bus-stop/

    "A Los Angeles nurse has died days after authorities say she was attacked by a homeless man while waiting for a bus at downtown Union Station."

    "Transit crimes in Democrat-run cities have been making headlines as of late. A brutal alleged murder occurred at the Times Square Subway Station in New York City on Saturday, Breitbart News reported. A homeless man allegedly pushed a woman in front of an oncoming train, resulting in her death. While the homeless man was perp-walked out of the Midtown South NYPD precinct later in the day, he admitted to reporters that he pushed the woman and declared himself 'God.'"
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  22. TexDanm

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    Sigh!" Have you ever noticed that these things are nearly all happening in places and states that are historically places that supported black and minority freedoms? I was raised in an area that was separated from the black part of town by a section of woods. We were segregated in schools then but when we met in the woods we were just kids and made no special deal out of it.

    I have always been a night person and back in the olden days at midnight all of the 2 or three TV channels played the national anthem and went off the air. I worked from 3:30 to midnight for yars in a shipyard that also built offshore drilling rigs. I got off at midnight ate and then went walking. that way I didn't wake up my wife an kiddo.

    I had some running buddies and on the weekends we fished, hunted and just spent a lot of our time after we dropped our ladies off in the woods. When we were not doing that we were in someones garage working on someone's car or truck.

    I don't remember ever having any sort of issue with any of the black folks that lived so near to us. When they integrated the schools it just wasn't a big deal to those of us that were raised there. Now, there was a little redneck town just across the river from us that was a totally while Klan Town that were bigots and proud of it. LOL, they didn't like me much better than they did blacks. I was one of those long haired motorcycle riding hippies you know.

    The funny thing was that they never bothered me. I guess that I was too big and pugnacious. I told a crowd of them one time that today was a good day to die, who wanted to die today and then laughed and walked off when nobody wanted to dances. Maybe me shaving a little hair off my arm with a buck knife helped dissuade them.

    They were just white trash punks and that was about the only people that had any real problem with black folks. When integration came along I don’t remember it amounting to much. I played sports with them and we were pretty tight. Nobody wanted to have a bunch of BIG guys of mixed races to have to have a word with you in a bathroom!! If you messed with one of us you had to then deal with ALL of us and color didn’t matter.

    I think that these bonds among the athletes helped smooth out things a lot. You get to know and depend on someone and color just doesn’t have much more meaning that a sun tan. The people that lived in the all white places just didn’t know any black people and so only knew what the older bigots told them. When they gre up and had to leave their little hole in the wall towns they got educated FAST. The education wasn’t necessarily from black people either.

    Strangely, the people that had the most problems were white kids from the north that came down when their Fathers came to work in the oil fields and refineries. I dragged one into a bathroom and explained things to him in single syllable words that even an idiot could clearly understand. I had him up on a wall with his feet about a foot off the floor so we could be eye to eye.

    He was big for a Yankee and decided to act an ass to a little skinny black nerd. I was a reallty really BIG white football playing nerd and that little black guy was a friend and one of my peeps. I was bench pressing over 300 pounds back then and could dead life half of a car. We carried a coaches car up some stairs and put it on the front deck of the school one time. It was a little MG B twoseater so four of us had no problem with it at all. Any two of us could have flipped it upside down. By myself I could get two wheels off the ground.

    I wandered... sorry ..Good days and good memories with friends of all races and later several nationalities.
     
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  23. lonewolf

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    seems to me people are getting more and more stupid and more and more violent, at least in the cities anyway, good reason to avoid cities if possible.
     
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  24. Old Geezer

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    "Los Angeles police ID Shawn Laval Smith as suspected killer of Brianna Kupfer"

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/los-angeles-police-id-shawn-laval-smith-suspected-killer-brianna-kupfer

    "Shawn Laval Smith, 31, should be considered armed and dangerous, according to the LAPD

    "Los Angeles County Jail records show Covina police arrested him on Oct. 27, 2020 on a misdemeanor charge. He was released on $1,000 bail. The outcome of that case was not immediately clear.

    "A law enforcement source tells Fox News Digital that Smith has a rap sheet that spans both coasts, including in San Francisco and South Carolina. His most recent charge is allegedly for shoplifting -- and he landed up in jail in San Mateo after allegedly assaulting a police officer.

    "Los Angeles District Attorney George Gascon's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment."

    Shawn Laval Smith, community leader:

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    Brianna Kupfer, murder victim:

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  25. lonewolf

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    in a collapse situation we will see violence escalating as no one will respect the laws anymore, I think we are seeing the beginnings of that already.
     
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  26. TexDanm

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    Our wonderful leadership in this country has made every effort to insure that the CRIMINALS precious rights are protected. Sadly they have made it so that large partd of our major cities are almost uninhabitable by people that just want to work and raise a family in peace. If you are attacked and beaten severely and your attacker in caught in the act there is every possibility that they will get out of the jail before you get out of the hospital.

    At some point we the people are going to HAVE or be forced to take charge of our government again. Yes we "elect" or leaders BUT let's be real what we get to do really is just vote for carefully selected professional politicians. Most of them have not done much in the way of WORKING in their life and have a world view totally disconnected from the realities that most working people have to live with.

    Our leaders need to be part of US, we the regular people. Our founding fathers made every effort to eliminate the USA from having a ruling class that stood above the lesser citizens. Sadly what we have done is allowed it to now be mostly ruled by the rich families.
     
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  27. poltiregist

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    Human depopulation via getting masses of people to get in line and get their government pushed shot has according to multiple medical experts has now assured in some countries nearly their entire human population will perish within the next decade or two . Some folks such as Lonewolf and I will enjoy the human barren planet . Others will perish simply because they have no idea how to survive as they depend on others for their survival , such as motorized transportation , stores and electrical dependent gadgetry . Whether these medical experts are correct on the death toll , I have no way to confirm or deny . --- Perhaps this is the end goal of China . Destroy entire militaries and expand their control over the planet as they simply occupy the countries void of humans .
     
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  28. lonewolf

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    my attitude is that civilisations have collapsed in the past, The Aztecs, The Mayans, the Ancient Roman Empire,etc.etc., and so will this one, we are not exempt, we just have further to fall is all, some people think that technology will save them but as we have seen in Tonga recently this wont and isnt the case.
    we need to be ready and fully prepared, not just in goods but in knowledge and skills, for what inevitably is to come, many will not be, in Britain preppers and off gridders and the like probably amount for less than 1% of the population, 99% of the population rely completely and solely on the system and daily deliveries to shops and homes, but any hiccup in the supply system will affect them far more that anyone who has prepared, never mind a full on collapse which many people still dont think will ever happen even after all the events that have happened including and since 9/11.
     
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  29. Old Geezer

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    On the subject of food supply flows:

    Not complex in any way is it? OK, so maybe it is ...

    https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ab29ae/meta

    "Freight Analysis Framework (FAF)"

    "Figure 5. Maps of food flow networks within the United States. Maps depict total food flows (tons) for the (A) FAF and (B) county scale. Links are shown for all FAF data and for the largest 5% of county links."

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    https://research.rabobank.com/far/en/sectors/grains-oilseeds/grow-with-the-flow.html

    "Preview of the World Grains & Oilseeds Map"

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  30. lonewolf

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    in the western world we have the "Just in time" supply system, 3 days worth of normal sales is all that is kept and what is on the store shelves is all there is , stores no longer have a stockroom out back, when its gone its gone.
    I'm not sure the masses know that or even care.
    this is why preppers say " we are 9 meals from anarchy"-9 meals = 3 days.
     
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    At least some people are standing up to the anti-Chist Left:

    "European Politician Facing Criminal Charges For Tweeting Bible Verse"

    https://dailycaller.com/2022/01/24/finland-paivi-rasanen-criminal-charge-tweet-bible-verse/

    "Finnish politician Päivi Räsänen went on trial Monday for tweeting a bible verse in 2019 and challenging the Finnish Lutheran Church’s involvement in gay pride events.

    "Räsänen faces charges of 'ethnic agitation' under the War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity section of the country’s criminal code, the Daily Wire reported. Finland’s hate speech laws criminalize the expression of opinions that threaten, defame, or insult' others, with offenders facing up to two years in jail.

    "Charges against the politician are rooted in voicing opinions about marriage and sexuality in a 2004 pamphlet and a 2019 radio show in addition to tweeting a photo of an open bible with the caption, '#kirkko [the church] has stated that he is the official partner of #seta #Pride2019 . How does the doctrinal foundation of the Church, #raamattu [the bible] fit in with shame and sin being raised as a matter of pride?'

    "A medical doctor, mother of five and grandmother of six, Räsänen has been a Member of Parliament since 1995 and was Minister of the Interior from 2011 to 2015, during which time she handled church affairs for Finland, according to ADF International. Police investigations into her began in 2019, and Räsänen has undergone multiple police interviews.

    “'I will not be intimidated into hiding my faith,' Räsänen said, according to ADF. 'The more Christians keep silent on controversial themes, the narrower the space for freedom of speech gets.'“

    Old Geezer sez, "Get your jab, swear that sodomy is normal, take a dump on civilized behavior, and wipe your bottom with pages torn out of the Bible." You will be assimilated. You will be a part of the collective.

    [​IMG]

    https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/gay+bowel+syndrome

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29700009/

    https://news.lgbti.org/understanding-anal-cancer-screenings/
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  32. lonewolf

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    Apparently there was some computer modelling in the 1970s that said Societal Collapse would come around the end of this decade and be complete by 2040.
    modern boffins have checked the figures and declared them to be correct.
    you heard it here first.
     
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  33. TexDanm

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    What people don't understand about a world wide societal collapse is that it won't be a fall back to the early 20th century levels. If it is indeed a world wide collapse we will most likely fall to a level possibly lower than the 16th century.

    Yes, people know that the modern things exist but almost none have a clue about making them and most of them now require power sources that will be GONE. My Fathers generation would have just dropped back to their fathers and grandfather levels. They had the animals and there were people alive when they were young that knew how to live without power of any kind.

    People say under 40 now mostly have no idea of what to do in a world without power and a grocery store down the road to provide them with food. How many people under 40 have ever canned their own food, cured meat, butchered an animal bigger than a rabbit. There are indeed 15 million hunters in the us BUT there are 333 million people. That means that over 300 million people have no clue about butchering an animal and making it into food.

    Starvation will hit in less than a week!!! By the end of two weeks things will get BAD and people will be killing for food. The sad thing is that they will destroy more than they will eat. Without refrigeration you just can’t eat most animals of any size before the meat spoils...unless you know how to smoke or can it.

    Within a couple of months people are going to go to unimaginable levels as starvation begins to drive them down roads nobody could believe possible. What can a person that has no gun and has never hunted or fished find to eat in a world where the store shelves are bare and nobody is going to feed them. After the first winter in most of the northern places the human population will be a fraction of what it is today and when the dogs and cats are gone they will turn on each-other.

    Heading out into the rural areas is going to get ROUGH real fast. Most folks that live in the tiny towns and in the country have guns and know how to use them. They will see caravans of city people as dangerous invaders that will eat them out of house and home...and they will be RIGHT!!! I have seen it get ugly during a hurricane evacuation! The cops managed to keep order for the few days that it took for the storm to come in ans pass but there were barricades blocking roads before the cops rolled in.

    In an end of society situations those barricades will be manned by armed men that WILL kill you if you try to force your way past them. The world as we know it will be nothing more than a memory. The massed millions that live in the huge cities are going to be treated as enemy invaders as soon as people realize that it is OVER and that things are never in their life return to the easy life we have now.
     
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  34. lonewolf

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    At Last! someone that understands what I have been saying for the last decade!
    without power most of the population will be dead within a month, 2 at the most. without drinkable water a lot less than that.
    most people, especially city people in the UK, are not hunters and wouldnt know one end of a rifle from another, I wonder how many vegetarians there will be left in a post collapse winter??
     
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    Without their canned foods and grocery stores the vegitarians won't last very long at all. What little there IS to eat in a forest they won't know how to find it and which plants have calories and which either have nothing to offer a human digestive system OR are poison.
     
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  36. Old Geezer

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    All or none.

    Black or white.

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  37. Old Geezer

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    Some "preppers" imagine that having just a few boxes of ammunition around will get them through the onslaught of desperate hungry masses fleeing to anywhere they imagine they can find food.

    Wrong.

    Living within a hundred and fifty miles of large cities makes me feel very, very insecure. People may abandon their vehicles, but they will not return to the cities. The packs that make it far away from the cities will be the worst of the worst.

    But also, as economies spiral downward over months/years, the decay will spread out of the cities over months/years. This has already begun in Amerika.

    Even in the rural areas of my home state, I can no longer afford even a small home due to people abandoning New York, Illinois, New Jersey, ... . Here in this little town last year, I was speaking to an ex-cop from Chicago (hundreds and hundreds of miles away from here). He and his wife couldn't take it anymore, so they moved away from Amerika to come to America.

    Coming to a country near you! If not now, they will. Cities are getting to be intolerable.

    https://nypost.com/2022/01/03/democrat-run-states-saw-residents-flee-in-2021/

    "Droves of residents fled Democrat-run states with surging crime and COVID-19 restrictions last year — with New York, New Jersey and Connecticut among the five that suffered the steepest losses, a sobering new survey shows."

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/californians-fleeing-texas-uhaul-trucks-report

    https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/u-haul-says-more-people-140425930.html
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  38. lonewolf

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    moving home to another location is completely different to people leaving the city post collapse.
    sure we have "incomers"(as they are known) here, they put the price of property up so much a local cannot afford to get on the housing ladder in the place they were born and raised.
    but that is completely different to someone leaving a city in a SHTF event, and most people over here wont have that luxury as events will catch them unprepared and unplanned, lacking in knowledge and skills, the result of which will be certain death.
     
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  39. Old Geezer

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    These people are moving out of the cities due to the reality of our cities collapsing into chaos. This isn't the virus thingy. This is due to cities being intolerable places to live. Crime has gone off-scale.

    Many of the people moving into Europe got fed-up with all the hell they had to get through back in their home countries. Normally migratory anyway in their region or forced into it in years decades past, they simply pack-up again, this time heading hundreds or thousands of miles to get to somewhere with a greater "livability" factor.

    Arabian and North African people evolved as migratory people. They simply had to keep on moving if they were to survive. Same is true of the North American indigenous peoples of the Great Plains. They follow the food. The seasons change and that means that they have to leave.

    The people currently moving into Europe are not weak / sissy peoples. These folk are hard. They've known war. They've known hunger. Many of the men have been in combat. They know want and struggle. Their gangs have already established weapons pipelines. They consider European people as just so many marshmallows.

    AND, they sure haven't stopped moving-in!
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    The thing that bothers me the most about the current slow evacuation of the rotting big cities is that as soon as they settle they begin trying to recreate the same crap pile that they left. They get all shock up when their kids get in trouble stealing from the neighbors or selling drugs in the schools. In my experience a lot of the people that moved to the rural areas for a better life are the same people that created the problem in the cities.

    Rural folks are just less likely to let you blame everything their kids do on others. Where I live a thief can and often does get SHOT. Then their trashy parents try to blame it on the mean people that didn’t let the poor innocent thief. When you live in the country you don’t call the cops to come protect you. They are likely to take almost an hour to get around to showing up. You tend to it yourself and then let them know there are bodies that they need to remove or you tell them that there are going to be some thieves showing up at the hospital shortly.

    The REALITY of this is that our thieves are unlikly to go and steal from people that live out in the country unless they live there. Strangers sort of stick out and when you live on acres instead of lots there is no reason for them to be sneaking or prowling around on your property.
     
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  41. Old Geezer

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    "The thing that bothers me the most about the current slow evacuation of the rotting big cities is that as soon as they settle they begin trying to recreate the same crap pile that they left."

    Yes! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    "Where I live a thief can and often does get SHOT."

    Yes! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    "Strangers sort of stick out ..."

    They sure do! But they don't have to, because during hard times (or even nowadays) if you engage in trespassing activities, you run the very real risk of lead poisoning ... big time. In the country, it sure is not like in the movies; when hunters take a shot, the shot is fatal. In the movies, it's zing, zing, zing. In "the sticks" it's dead, dead, dead. Humans are generally larger than rabbits and squirrels = BIG targets.

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    [QUOTE="Old Geez In the country, it sure is not like in the movies; when hunters take a shot, the shot is fatal. In the movies, it's zing, zing, zing. In "the sticks" it's dead, dead, dead. Humans are generally larger than rabbits and squirrels = BIG targets.

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    Totally correct , only one shot per target is likely to be needed . This may even have something to do with the older generation compared to the younger . I was told they modified the m16 as the younger generation was just doing a lot of shooting " in a panic " and not hitting much . So they modified the m16 to just fire a 3 round burst . Have you guys noticed where they filmed our troops in the desert wars in action , where they weren't even looking at their target but just poking their gun in the general direction of the enemy while keeping their head down and firing away . -- Just my combat experienced opinion , but could see where the enemy could have simply walked up to the U.S. soldiers and shot them all . -- But again Old Geezer is correct the rural dweller that has hunted for his or her food all their lives wouldn't be so foolish and would likely need only one shot for one enemy . --- We could also look at the city dwelling thugs running around shooting at someone and is just as likely to hit a bystander as their intended victim . A woodsman would be taking a ice cold , steady aim at his or her target .
     
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  43. lonewolf

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    most people moving out of London are moving because of Covid, they realise that if they can work from home they can live anywhere, people moved to the south west long before covid and commuted to the city daily.
    it used to be called "White Flight" or middle class flight, now its "Pandemic Flight".
     
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    Russia is now moving blood and medical supplies to their troops near the Ukraine Boarder . Considering blood has a short shelf life , I would think the war will be very soon .
     
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    As of today , the global human population is facing a possible massive die off orchestrated by governments across the globe via getting people to have a lab created concoction injected into their bodies . A possible world war 3 may begin any moment . A very large asteroid is on its way that solar geeks think may barely miss earth but earths gravitational field will cause it to boomerang back and make impact in a few years . Solar geeks are trying to figure out how they could change its trajectory to prevent the asteroid impact . --- Even just one of these dire events could leave survivors walking a planet with very few other humans to share it with . Two or more of these events could occur consecutively . We are already seeing a die off of the vaccinated , so one of those events is already materializing .
     
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  46. Old Geezer

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    In all likelihood, your survival group will have to bore deeper into the Earth.

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  47. Old Geezer

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    https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...raine-adding-us-concern-officials-2022-01-28/

    A real scenario for a SHTF scenario (as opposed to paranoid plots) is that if pipelines across Ukraine are shut down, the European economy will suffer sufficiently to push the banks into collapse. Irrespective of what is publicly allowed to be stated, the banks of Europe are in dire straights. Spain, Italy, and Greece were done-for a good long time ago and are currently being artificially propped-up. Deutsche Bank has been laying-off employees out of necessity. This current lying dying "administration" in Washington D.C. says that it will keep Europeans from freezing this winter if the Ukraine pipelines are shut down. Yeah sure and if you believe that, I've got some prime waterfront property in Florida you may wish to buy.

    Lord knows what will start the fire that causes the explosion, however the world economy is in deep sh##. The money-printing will go on, but that will only make things worse when this train runs off the tracks. There have been world financial depressions before in history -- one less than 100 years ago -- there will be more so long as monetary policies are coo-coo for coca-puffs.

    This coming depression will find masses of urbanites massively under-prepared to handle it, therefore chaos will soon follow. In the U.S. during the 1930's depression, 77% of the population was rural and self-sufficient. Now, reverse that number -- only 30% of the population lives in rural areas. "This dawg don't hunt!"

    Things are going to get way past "bad".
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    "Wokeism Is a Cruel and Dangerous Cult"

    https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/23/wokeism-is-a-cruel-and-dangerous-cult/

    "Wokeism’s natural logic is to destroy the lives of people of both genders, of all races, and—if need be—of those of every age, all to leverage an otherwise unworkable ideological agenda.

    "Wokeism has been described by its critics as the omnipresent use of race—and to a lesser extent, gender—to replace meritocracy and thus ensure equality of result. What follows from implementing that ideology are reparatory actions to reward those of the present by atoning for the injustices done to others in the past.

    "Some see it as an update of 1960s cultural Marxism fads. Others scoff that it is just a return to 1980s-style political correctness.

    "Still more see it as the logical successor to 1990s-type race, class, and gender obsessions—albeit with a shriller and more dangerous Jacobin, Soviet, and Maoist twist. Wokeism’s hysteria also invites comparisons to the Salem witch trials and McCarthyism.

    "Wokeism’s natural logic is to destroy the lives of people of both genders, of all races, and—if need be—those of every age, all to leverage an otherwise unworkable ideological agenda. It is nihilist and destroys everything it touches. It tears apart foes and friends alike, whether by fueling media-driven hatred of Donald Trump or faux-deification of the disaster that is now Joe Biden.

    "Defunding law enforcement and defaming police resulted in record numbers of murders in 12 U.S. cities. A wave of violent crime is even hitting America’s suburbs.

    "Without much fear of arrest, indictment, conviction, and incarceration, emboldened violent career criminals for the past year have robbed, assaulted, and killed the innocent with impunity.

    "The victims at the bus stop, the subway, or in the furniture store do not seem to warrant media or progressive attention, much less sympathy.

    "They are the ignored—the unnamed, and the forgotten collateral damage from the grand experiment of redefining crime as a social construct. The guilty are the elite academics, activists, and billionaires like George Soros who are untouched by what they birthed.

    "We have all seen videos of the vast expanse of flotsam and jetsam strewn by train thieves along the Union Pacific tracks in Los Angeles. Yet the Wild West mess is still more than just the concrete manifestations of Los Angeles County district attorney George Gascón’s unhinged efforts to excuse criminals from legal consequences.

    "The packages thrown along the ground by thugs and gangsters represent, among other things, lost COVID-19 test results of the ill. Presumably, they unknowingly are waiting still by the window for the delivery of results that never arrive. The package in the dirt was, perhaps, a key tractor part eagerly awaited, in vain, by the broke farmer in the Central Valley. The mess included the life-saving medicines shipped to the sick that disappeared.

    "And our elected leaders did what in response? Governor Gavin Newsom apologized for using the insensitive word 'gangs' to describe those who plunder, loot, and trash railcars.

    "It is a cruel thing to indoctrinate children with the lie that they are innately guilty of oppression due to their skin color. One accurate definition of racism is collective ill-treatment of an individual due to his innate appearance—on the pretext that such bias is deserved, given the target is deemed mentally, spiritually, or morally inferior because of said traits. But that, in a nutshell, is the essence of critical race theory: the destruction of all human traits and unique characteristics, as demonized individuals are reduced to stereotyped, faceless members of a collective.

    "The green wokeists postulate that they are saving lives by radical efforts to restrict gas and oil production, to raise fuel prices. They want to force Americans to buy high-priced alternative sources of wind- and solar-generated power and battery-powered cars. But away from the faculty lounge, millions of Americans are colder and less mobile this winter, paying far more to heat their homes and to drive to work.

    "Most of the woke climate change activists rarely see the poor trying to empty their purses to scrounge combinations of cash and credit cards to leverage over $100 to fill their cars’ gas tanks. Tesla drivers might be the architects of last year’s war on carbon fuels. But real-life victims pay for their piety—those who have no such options to buy high-priced electric cars.

    "For the cosmopolitan woke, the border is many things: a mere xenophobic construct, a racist barrier, a nationalist tic.

    "But the thousands who live near the Mexican border see their homes and farms overrun with drug traffickers—and during a pandemic thousands of unvaccinated and possibly sick illegal aliens. They suffer firsthand from daily violence as all security disappears.

    "The woke lecture that colleges and universities must now go beyond their former de facto racial quotas for admissions and hiring, already mostly based on proportional representation and disparate impact. But now a sort of reparations system emerges. It is what the Left itself used to call in derision 'overrepresentation.'

    "Equity in our Orwellian world is not equality, but payback. Again, it is the idea of making the current generation pay for the supposed sins of the long dead of centuries past.

    "Aside from the destruction of merit by the substitution of racial criteria, millions from a discarded generation will have doors slammed on their careers—simply because of the color of their skin. And they will never forget that.

    "The woke do not even make the effort to admit that class matters as much as, or more than, race. By doing so, they doom millions of poor white and Asian students, who managed in poverty to achieve excellent grades and test scores, from being admitted to top-tier schools. Their actual achievement, despite their absence of wealthy, college-educated, or well-connected parents, means little.

    "Once a morally bankrupt society—for naïve, utopian, or ignoble reasons—begins to calibrate graduation ceremonies, dorm space, roommate selection, achievement, and grading standards based on race, then it not only will lose its standard of living, but it will deserve to. And it may have a future date with the violence of Rwanda, Iraq, or the Balkans.

    "In sum, wokeness is not about kindness, equality, fairness, or morality.

    "It is the power agenda of the elite of all races. For differing reasons, they rig the game in their own interests, without a care about who suffers.

    "Rich white people assume that they possess the money, the influence, the networking skills, and the connections to navigate around the very exclusionary rules they make for others. For them, there are seldom costs. But they win apparent psychological gain at feeling spiritually superior while driving a Range Rover.

    "They get high on the sense of power they wield to engineer the lives of millions deemed less important than they. And to the degree they feel guilty about their own monopoly of wealth and leisure, such transient superficial remorse is alleviated by abstract caring for the “other.”

    "If they can ensure that 50 percent of TV commercials highlight African Americans, then they worry little about the nation’s existential crisis of 800 blacks murdered in Chicago last year. And no such television execs have a clue—or likely a concern—about how to stop it.

    "The woke take out a medieval contract that all their material indulgences can be balanced by virtue-signaling caring for the less fortunate—although always at someone else’s expense.

    "And for the millions of the affluent, elite nonwhite? The resurgence of racial obsessions conveniently destroys the old idea of class, even though now it is the far more precise calibration of inequality.

    "For all the woke talk about “constructs” of gender, race is somehow alone exempted and declared innate, definable, and immutable. One’s appearance becomes the permanent victimized refuge—even of NBA multibillionaires and billionaire rappers alike.

    "A Ward Churchill or Elizabeth Warren can desperately seek to leverage a career in becoming Native American, apparently as if they were almost trapped in their own white bodies. Yet they can still not manage to construct such assumed identities in the manner of Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner.

    "If race is now the sole immutable barometer of who is a victim, who a victimizer, then LeBron James, Jay-Z, Kayne West, Chris Rock, Michelle Obama, and Oprah Winfrey are always to be among the eternally oppressed. The enormous influence, power, status, and wealth they wield never negates their victimhood, despite a nation three generations into affirmative action.

    "In the immoral calculus of woke, the poor white or Southeast Asian offspring of poorly paid high-school dropouts constitute “the privileged.” And a multimillionaire racist like the TV anchorwoman Joy Reid claims to be the perpetual victim, not the inner-city African American retiree who in 2021 has lost local police protection.

    "No wonder the woke elite and the affluent leftists fixate on race, given they are now the ruling class. Otherwise, their own privilege would be the obvious target of the once-beloved “Revolution.”

    "So, they fear that by their own prior left-wing standards, they too could end up on the wrong side of their moral Maginot Line. Wokeism’s obsessions with ferreting out “white privilege” are a way for rich people to head off (so to speak) the fate of Marie Antoinette.

    "But above all, wokeism is a cruel cult—created by and for the careerist benefit of the privileged."
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    Update on Leftist race war against Caucasian people:

    "Diversity Training Tells Teachers That Kids Aren’t ‘Racially Innocent’"

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...s-teachers-that-kids-arent-racially-innocent/

    "During classes described as 'Racial Literacy 101' sessions, a number of UK-based teachers have been told that kids as young as seven should not be thought of as “racially innocent”.

    "Brighton and Hove City Council — which has since been accused of 'indoctrinating' children — has said that the classes are “required for all staff” in schools.

    "In documents seen by the publication, the course includes reference to 'covert white supremacy' — which is partially defined during the course as denying white privilege — and also claims that young children are often seen as “racially innocent” despite supposed “ample evidence” showing that this is not the case.

    "Also noted is that the city council is advertising a 'race adviser' job with an advertised salary of £50,000 to £55,000 pro rata for two and a half days a week."

    Watch as this 92 year old woman gets her just deserts for being white:

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    Throwing homosexuals off the tops of buildings is a Muslim thing. We should be too critical of such cultural traditions.

    "Elite UK Schools Abandon Pro-LGBT Rules from Middle-Eastern Branches"


    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...-pro-lgbt-rules-from-middle-eastern-branches/

    "Elite schools in the UK, including a number of so-called 'Eton Group' schools, such as King’s College and Sherborne, have been found to not include pro-LGBT guidelines implemented in their UK locations in sister operations active in the Middle East.

    "The mysterious absence of explicit measures designed to prevent homophobic bullying — which are a legal requirement in the United Kingdom — from Middle Eastern operations has raised eyebrows.

    "According to a report by The Times, schools wishing to operate in a variety of Middle Eastern countries are required to abide by Islamic government guidelines regarding ownership, curriculum content, and patriotism."
     
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  50. lonewolf

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    still fixated on UK news I see, how about concentrating on problems in your own country first before condemning others. like for instance Biden intent on starting a war with Russia over Ukraine?
    if there is a WW3 it wont be Russia or Iran or NK that starts it, it will be that dementia ridden idiot currently in the White House together with his Commie V.P.
     
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