Collapse Of Europe

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  1. Old Geezer

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    "Woke Groomer Professor Calls For Pedophilia To Be Taught in Schools So It Can Be ‘Destigmatized’"

    https://en-volve.com/2022/06/14/wok...taught-in-schools-so-it-can-be-destigmatized/

    "It’s time to talk about pedophilia in the classroom, says one 'woke' professor.

    "Ole Martin Moen from Oslo Metropolitan University in Norway is calling for the ‘de-stigmatization’ of child rapists. Citing his supposed research, Moen believes that 'a substantial number of high school students have an intrinsic sexual identity' that he relates to that of LGBTQ+ individuals.

    "He claims that 'the mental state of finding children sexually attractive is fairly prevalent,' and hence argues for the ‘de-stigmatization’ of pedophiles."
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      just one more sick critter.
       
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  2. lonewolf

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    at least he acknowledges it is a "mental" affliction, in the old days anyone who raped a young child would be severely beaten , I think a wall and one bullet is the way to "cure" such people.
     
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      Our old pal was a fully paid up member of the BNP back when it was hacked and the membership names and addresses were published on wiki leaks. If you can still find it their description of him is pretty funny. ;) Even the BNP saw him as a potential embarrassment:rolleyes:
      Edit, I’ve just looked it up, it’s still there and it’s still just as funny. :D:D:D
       
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  4. Old Geezer

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    The socialists are collapsing Europe at the maximum speed that giants are able to fall. Due to inertia, it is difficult to grind a large object to a halt. Even if one imposed sanity and common sense on the European economies, it's over, they're doomed. The facade of health is holding -- especially for the ignorant. Behind it all is an indebtedness that is fatal.

    Me, I hope the liberal parties in Europe continue to print and spend euros as fast as possible. I hope that America can get as much out of Europe as is possible before the place collapses into economic ruin and/or war. It disgusts me that America might yet again attempt to fix the unfixable. There is no need for America to have troops there. Europe looks down on America, so let those countries eat each other.

    Here in the USSA, even die-hard Left-wingers are beyond disgusted with the puppet biden regime. Spoiled Amerika may just need a high enema to yet again teach the lesson of avoiding uncontrolled economic policies. America historically gets a full-blown economic depression every 50 years (or so, 50-60 years-ish). This place is now WAY OVERDUE for a crash. Seems the Democratic Socialists are going to cause this boil to burst.

    I've heard it said that we could get another 2008 recession, even a worse recession. How ludicrous! We are going to get a horrid DEPRESSION. The coming crash will make the 1930s look tame. This one could easily start America's second civil war.

    Often the farmer burns his fields in preparation for the next growing season. Hmmmmm ... I seem to smell smoke.
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    What pisses me off more about LePenn are her strong links to Putin. She is like a Trojan (Russian) horse in the heart of Europe
     
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  6. lonewolf

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    Ystranc re your BNP comment, it would be funny if wiki leaks had got it right, for some reason they had me listed as a "witch" LOL if they knew what they were talking about they would know that is the female form, a male witch is known as a Warlock, which I never listed on my membership anyway, that membership lapsed long before we moved here and thats 13 years ago, so its old news.
    what isnt funny is I had 2 LABOUR goons ring me up out of the blue and pretend to be from the BNP, typical of the socialists. just labour you notice, not the Tories not the limpdems, probably some union bullies.
     
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    This looks like a kind of support to me as well LW, no one mentioned you actually voting for anyone….except the BNP of course:rolleyes:
     
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  10. lonewolf

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    that was a long time ago, I let my membership lapse after they got rid of Nick Griffen, I voted for Brexit of course and have been voting Conservative for over a decade now.
     
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  11. Old Geezer

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    Italy:

    "Peschiera: riot mob gropes women on Lake Garda – News Abroad"


    https://www.archyde.com/peschiera-riot-mob-gropes-women-on-lake-garda-news-abroad/

    "Peschiera – When the mob left, Orietta Gaiulli, the mayor of Peschiera, said, stunned: 'We have seen a day of war.'

    "About 1500 to 2000 young people attacked the tranquil town on Lake Garda (Italy), rioted, attacked tourists and destroyed shop windows. There were fights, stabbings, stones and bottles thrown at the police.

    "The perpetrators: mainly young people, apparently mostly migrants from North Africa. They traveled to 'Republic Day' on June 2nd and chanted 'This is Africa'.

    "In the meantime, the incident has triggered heated political discussions in Italy – also because countless women were groped and harassed by men from the mob. About 30 suspects are being investigated.

    "Calls for a new mob are circulating for the coming days, this time in Riccione near Rimini."

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    "‘Taharrush’ Spreads to Italy: Mobs of Migrants Surround and Sexually Assualt Teenage Girls on Train"

    https://ussanews.com/2022/06/25/tah...-and-sexually-assualt-teenage-girls-on-train/

    "Earlier this month, the town of Peschiera del Garda in northern Italy experienced the dangerous realities of the left-wing government’s open border policies. An estimated 1,500 male migrants, most North African, terrorized the vacation town. Girls were sexually assaulted and harassed by mobs of the illegal male migrants. Others ran wild through the village, destroying shop windows, attacking and robbing tourists, harassing pedestrians, terrorizing motorists, and assaulting Police.

    "The town’s hell lasted until the evening when the young foreigners invaded the Peschiera station on their way home. The transport service was interrupted for several hours while the migrants terrorized innocent civilians.

    "Hordes of migrants who boarded the trains sexually harassed and attacked young girls trying to get home after visiting the 'Gardaland' amusement park in Peschiera. The following Italian news report from Milano Pavia TV describes what happened to one group of six teenage girls returning to their homes in Milan

    "It seems the Arabic sexual assault ‘Taharrush’ game which sees women surrounded by groups of men in crowds and sexually assaulted has spread to Italy.

    "The horrific game first came to light in 2013 during the uprising in Cairo’s Tahrir Square where local women and foreign journalists were assaulted by groups of Islamic men attending the protests against the Egyptian president."
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    "Lara Logan explains the 'Taharrush rape game'"

    https://minkonto.com/lara-logan-explains-the-taharrush-rape-game/



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    "Taharrush - The Sickening And Terrifying Arab Rape Game That Is Spreading Across Europe"

    https://www.indiatimes.com/news/wor...e-that-is-spreading-across-europe-249466.html

    "When the first incidents of women being assaulted by crowds of Arab men came out of Cologne, Germany, during New Years Eve, the news was being suppressed. Realisation it seems has now dawned and the German Federal Criminal Police Office, BKA, says that the alleged Arab rape game Taharrush is now in Europe. Yes, a disgusting game, brought to Europe by the hordes of refugees seeking asylum.

    "Additional reports from Germany say that similar incidents have occurred in Berlin, Hamburg, Bielefeld, Frankfurt, Dusseldorf and Stuttgart. But it’s not only Germany that is suffering; other European nations such as Austria and Switzerland have also reported similar cases. According to Holger Munch of the BKA, attacks can range from stealing belongings, to groping and even rape. The women who have come out and reported these incidents tell of the horror they have gone through.

    "Taharrush is about large groups of Arab men surrounding their victims and then subjecting them to sexual assault. They form circles around women, and if there are enough men, drag the women along with the mob, rip their clothes off and physically assault them. The inner circle of men is the one assaulting the women, while the middle circle consists of spectators. Another outer circle tries to divert attention. Some men are placed strategically to act as if trying to help the women."
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  12. TMT Tactical

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    No good deed goes unpunished. When you open your border to the great unwashed, you get dirty events. Tag and deport all that refuse to follow civilized behavior.
     
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      "No good deed goes unpunished." -- Too, freaking true.
      Holy crap, don't get me started. Hundreds upon hundreds of life experiences. When at university, I had great ideas & ideals. The decades shot them down, one by one, one and all ... crash and burn. It is profoundly difficult to be alive well past a half century and not become something beyond cynical. Maybe I've seen too much. Too much sh##. Too much death. I've seen some people with decent souls, even better than just decent. Too few of them, however. Not just sad. Way past sad. "Many are called, but few are chosen." :(
       
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    Mass shooting in Denmark :(:(:(:(:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    Sounds like another copycat killing; however, it is way too early to get any details. We'll just have to wait. Even the police don't know yet how many were shot, nor can we know their conditions in hospital. What with the media playing-up these shootings, every nutcase on Earth has probably imagined getting themself on the news by wiping-out some innocent people. Thank God there's not been arson attacks on apartment buildings -- that's when hundreds die.

    "Several dead in shooting at Copenhagen shopping mall, police say"

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/copenhagen-shooting-shopping-mall/

    "The suspect, who is in custody, is a 22-year-old Danish man who was detained near the Fields shopping mall, said police inspector Søren Thomassen, head of the Copenhagen police operations unit.

    "'We know that there are several dead' and 'several injured,' Thomassen told a news conference, adding that terror can't be ruled out. 'We do not have information that others are involved. This is what we know now.'"
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...efaa24-faf4-11ec-b39d-71309168014b_story.html

    "Thomassen [Copenhagen police inspector] gave no specific casualty count beyond saying several people were dead and several wounded. He said the suspect was an 'ethnic Dane,' a phrase typically used to mean someone is white.

    "Danish broadcaster TV2 published a grainy photo of the alleged gunman, a man wearing knee-length shorts and a tank top and holding what appeared to be a rifle in his right hand.

    "The shooting came a week after a mass shooting in neighboring Norway, where police said a Norwegian man of Iranian origin opened fire during a LGBTQ festival, killing two and wounding more than 20."
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    "Protests across Spain after 23 migrants killed at border"

    https://advogadoportugal.com/protests-across-spain-after-23-migrants-killed-at-border/

    "The African Union has called for an immediate investigation into the deaths of at least 23 people trying to cross from Morocco into Spain. On Friday, about 2,000 migrants and refugees stormed the heavily-fortified border between Morocco and the Spanish enclave of Melilla. Claire Herriot reports."
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  15. lonewolf

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    more illegals, oh well thats a few less.
     
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    The world has gone mad!
    a report this morning in the news that "some" British schools are teaching their female students that " prostitution is a worthwhile career!" unquote.
    and apparently as of yesterday, The Church (of England) dosent know the definition of a Woman, this from a Bishop of all people.
    now I know everyone else has gone nuts.
     
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      Need I even say how mondo-bizzarro Amerika has become. It's not just Kalifornicatia any more. Parents in rather liberal parts of Virginia have now gotten fed-up with communist members of school boards. Then, the FBI starting investigating these unhappy parents as "Domestic Terrorists". I could jokingly say, "Crazy Dayz!"; however, the word "insanity" is beginning to be the actual / factual descriptor for these behavioral patterns. Delusional ideation is a pathology ("What is a woman?!"; the disassociation between sexual behavior and reproduction; we witness "science" becoming politicized; however repugnant certain truths may be, still the truth is the truth; XX is female and XY is male).
       
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    Its a crazy world indeed.

    A woman has 2 X chromosomes and a womb, its that simple. If you don't have those your not a female. You can adopt a feminine lifestyle/way of thinking and your a different type of woman, your body dysmorphia has pushed you into this and I've no problem with this but please, recognize them as a different type of woman and not a true woman. The transwoman label is good enough to use. Men have XY chromosomes and produce semen and have a tool to deliver the payload, if you don't have that your not a man; again a women can adopt a more masculine lifestyle but your simply not a man, your a transman, a different breed.

    If my belief offends anyone here remember...I don't care (waits now for Old Geezer to arrive and attack my perceived transphobia :) )
     
  19. lonewolf

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    absolutely and for once you and I are in total agreement, bloody hell!!:D
     
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  20. Old Geezer

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    Dutch farmers pushed to the limits:

    https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2...ing-against-emissions-regulations-netherlands

    "The fear is that if farmers do not cut 50% of emissions by 2030, these emissions would harm endangered plants, protected habitats and wildlife across the European Union.

    "Lawmakers have warned farmers that they need to adapt to these changes or their businesses will be shut down, but protests have been continuous throughout the week.

    “'Blockades of distribution centers hurt the citizens of the Netherlands. Supermarkets do everything they can to keep the stores stocked, but if blockades continue, it could lead to people not being able to do their daily shopping,' the Central Bureau for Food Trade said in a statement."

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    "... it could lead to people not being able to do their daily shopping."

    That's kind'a the point of all these protests isn't it! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    The farmers are saying, "If you neglect us, we will neglect you! You need us, you pile of idiots. Think about that."

    The farmers need to starve the cities. People in rural areas who aren't farmers grow their gardens and if there's other veggies they need, they can go to the local farmers' markets. I don't know of any rural small towns who do not have farmers' markets. As the phrase goes, "Buy local!"

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    https://www.foxnews.com/world/dutch...rotest-governments-strict-environmental-rules

    "Roughly 40,000 protesters gathered in central Netherlands to protest plans to curb the emissions of nitrogen and ammonia last month. Weeks later, the protests have continued across the country with no sign of abating.

    "The Dutch government is aiming to cut nitrogen and ammonia emissions by 50% by 2030 in a bid to improve air, land and water quality. The plans include cutting back on fertilizer used on farms and ratcheting back the number of livestock by an estimated 30%.

    "Photos and videos show farmers causing a highway near Germany’s border to come to a halt, with some Germans reportedly even joining the protest. Hundreds of businesses in three towns were virtually shut down due to three different protests, the Guardian reported Saturday. Meanwhile, some supermarkets have barren shelves due to the farmers also targeting distribution centers earlier this month."
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    Farmers and fishermen:

    "Dutch farmers and fishermen block roads to protest new emissions rules "

    https://www.euronews.com/green/2022...en-block-roads-to-protest-new-emissions-rules

    "Dutch fishermen have joined farmers in protesting nitrogen emission targets. In Harlingen, they blocked the port with trawlers meaning ferries to the islands of Terschelling and Vlieland could not leave for hours.

    "Shrimp fishermen in particular fear that they will run into problems due to the government's emission targets.

    "As of next year, they will need to apply for new fishing permits. Without the necessary adjustments to their trawlers, the permits could be withheld. It would mean they would no longer be allowed to do their jobs."

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    The city-folk and especially the politicians need a good lesson in suffering.
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  21. Old Geezer

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    More news concerning the Left's ongoing sexualization of children:

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/07/23/stonewall-children-as-young-as-two-can-be-trans/

    "The far-left, state-funded Stonewall organisation says children as young as two can be trans and gender identity should be taught in nursery schools.

    "This week, an unnamed mother penned an article in the Metro newspaper about her allegedly “gender nonconforming” four-year-old daughter and how her nursery school failed to 'respect' her supposed transgender identity.

    "In response to the article, the leftist LGBTQ+ Stonewall wrote: 'Research suggests that children as young as 2 recognise their trans identity. Yet, many nurseries and schools teach a binary understanding of pre-assigned gender.'

    “'LGBTQ-inclusive and affirming education is crucial for the wellbeing of all young people!' the state-backed charity added.

    "Though some governmental organisations have distanced themselves from Stonewall over its radical positions on transgenderism and former Minister for Women and Equalities turned prime ministerial hopeful Liz Truss has called for all departments to follow suit, the charity still receives the backing of the Foreign Office, the Equalities Office, and both the Scottish and Welsh regional devolved governments."
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  22. Old Geezer

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    God-government protecting its people:

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...for-trying-to-cut-teens-throat-on-public-bus/

    "An Afghan migrant still in Britain despite being convicted of 23 offences including a sexual assault has received a short sentence for trying to slaughter a teen boy like an animal on the floor of a public bus in Runcorn, England.

    "Hamid Akhonzada, who arrived in Britain supposedly aged 16 claiming to be a refugee from Afghanistan’s Western-backed government ten years ago, evidently faced no significant punishments for his many crimes, given he was a free man last March when the attack took place.

    "Despite this shocking testimony, recounted in a Liverpool Echo court report, and CCTV of the attack, prosecutors did not charge him for attempted murder — the victim’s throat was not fully opened, although he required glue and stitches to stem the bleeding and his girlfriend was also injured — but accepted a guilty plea to the relatively minor crimes of Section 18 wounding with intent and having a bladed article in public.

    "He was also convicted of assaulting an emergency worker, having beaten a prison guard so brutally that he was left unconscious for minutes some time after being taken into custody.

    "For this, the career violent criminal and sex offender was handed a mere four years plus four years on an extended licence after his release by Judge Michael Leeming, despite a lot of tough talk about how his 'record for violence and sexual assault [was] a statutory aggravating factor'."
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    --- This video is for the serious prepper . It could have been posted under a variety of threads but decided to post it here as the prediction is made on the video , the European governments will collapse on a grand scale by the year 2027 . We are talking about a Sri Lanka level of collapse . Someone spent 7 or 8 years in prison so they could bring out this video as the governments did not want this out .
     
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  24. lonewolf

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    in the present circumstances and the European reliance on Russian oil and gas the whole of Europe will probably go dark this winter when the Russians cut off the supplies, whether Europe can survive and recover from that is doubtful.
     
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  25. Old Geezer

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    London and continental Europe have no where near the violence as the USSA, but as migration speeds up, then all European cities will begin getting the urban violent crime of Sweden. More migration yet and they will start looking like Amerikan cesspool cities.

    "Khan’s London: Fatal Broad Daylight Knife Attack Follows Weekend of Stabbings and Shop Looting"

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...ollows-weekend-of-stabbings-and-shop-looting/

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    A man was stabbed to death in broad daylight in Sadiq Khan’s London on Monday following a weekend of stabbings and shop lootings in the capital city.

    The incident follows a weekend of violence in the UK capital city, which saw shops looted, police attacked, and at least five people stabbed in the leftist-controlled metropolis.


    According to a statement by the London Metropolitan police, Monday’s stabbing occurred at 11:40 am on Poland Street, an extremely short distance from Oxford Street, one of the busiest shopping streets in Europe.

    Another incident involved a man being stabbed and then shot, despite the UK priding itself on its strict gun and weapon control laws aimed at preventing this kind of violence.


    So strict are these rules that those living in the country are even legally prohibited from carrying cans of pepper spray in the hopes of being able to defend themselves from less law-abiding violent residents.

    London also recently saw bouts of mass robbery and assaults on police officers over the weekend, with shops on the famous Oxford Street being looted by gangs of youths.


    One incident that required a significant police response involved a crowd of young people storming a candy shop as well as jumping on a high-end sports car, with video of the events going viral online.





     
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    "Swedish Gun Violence: Mother and Small Child Shot at Playground"

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...ce-mother-and-small-child-shot-at-playground/

    "According to SVT, there were many people at the scene when the shooting took place, with one witness claiming to be speechless, saying: 'I don’t know what to say, I’m so scared,' and adding that several of the people connected to the shooting were wearing masks at the time.

    "The shooting is not the first time a child has been caught up in gun violence in Sweden. In 2020, a 12-year-old girl was shot and killed in the crossfire of a shooting outside a local McDonald’s restaurant in Botkyrka in what was believed to have been gang-related violence.

    "Shootings in Sweden, particularly fatal shootings, have surged this year, with the previous yearly record of 47 fatal shootings matched earlier this week."

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    Another senseless killing involving an assault car:

    "Man drives into Berlin crowd, killing teacher, injuring 14 students"


    https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...in-least-10-injured-gemanys-rbb24-2022-06-08/

    "Police identified the driver as a German-Armenian man, whose vehicle eventually crashed into a shop window. He was detained by bystanders and handed over to the authorities.

    "The fire service earlier said a dozen people were injured and six were in a life-threatening condition. Police later said 14 students were among the injured."
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  27. lonewolf

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    Liverpool has had 3 shooting deaths within a week. one a 9 year old.
     
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      Sorry :(. The big factor here in the USSA is the legal system vs. law enforcement. Even if some are properly funded, there is a small army of attorneys ready to jump at any potential lawsuit. In urban areas, one out of every three black males has a felony conviction (I just now looked-up this statistic). The police are overwhelmed. Our cities are no longer safe, thus people with the means to do so are bugging out en masse. In a college town near here, the police perpetually notify that university/student-body of the location of each shooting so that they will avoid those areas. However the "bad neighborhood" shootings occur only two or three blocks away from campus.
       
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  28. Old Geezer

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    People living on other continents do not understand just how bad things are in Europe. Most Americans don't have the ability to think. They vote for political predators who promise them money and couldn't name the countries of Europe on a globe without the country names labeled.

    This winter is going to be a crisis winter. The ramifications will not be isolated to any one continent.

    I recommend that the entire article be read. Were I to quote all of the most salient parts, I'd end up quoting the entire article. This is very informative.


    "You Have No Idea How Bad Europe’s Energy Crisis Is"


    https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/08/26/europe-energy-crisis-natural-gas-economy-winter/

    In the following, quotes are in the color yellow-green:

    Natural gas prices are 10 times the usual—upending industries, angering consumers, and panicking politicians.

    If most of the world is struggling with higher energy prices, Europe is being stretched on the rack, forcing European leaders to improvise bailout plans and emergency measures to spare consumers from damaging economic pain come winter.

    The biggest problem is spiking natural gas prices, which have been wreaking havoc across the continent, turbocharging inflation, hamstringing industries, and making ordinary people shudder when they get their power bills in the mail. European natural gas prices are now around 10 times higher than they were on average over the last decade and about 10 times pricier than in the United States. Alex Munton, an expert on global gas markets at Rapidan Energy Group, a consultancy, said European natural gas is so expensive it’s like paying $500 for a barrel of oil. And these are the good months.

    “Things are [at] a crisis point,” said Munton. “We have astronomic gas prices, and we’re still a few months away from when gas demand really peaks during the winter. There’s genuine uncertainty whether there will be sufficient gas to meet demand throughout the winter.”

    As nations buckle under the economic pressures, desperate times have called for desperate measures: Britain announced a painful 80 percent spike in the cap for household energy costs while Germany increased bills by almost 500 euros.

    “The alternative would have been the collapse of the German energy market and with it, large parts of the European energy market,” said German Economy Minister Robert Habeck.

    “The alternative would have been the collapse of the German energy market and with it, large parts of the European energy market,” said German Economy Minister Robert Habeck.

    Normally, Europe can refill its gas storage during the summer and coast in the winter, when usage is higher. Now, with colder months looming and Russia’s tightening chokehold on natural gas flows, Europe has been locked in a race against time to fill its tanks, which leaders have stocked by paying eye-watering prices. So far, experts said, European nations have been largely on track with their plans—but that doesn’t mean that they will be out of the woods come winter.

    In the winter, Europe typically “uses a lot of what it has in storage while, at the same time, importing lots of gas from other sources,” Munton said. “It needs both. But as we think about this winter, there is a very real threat that there won’t be any Russian gas at all.” In normal times, Russian gas supplies about 40 percent of European imports.

    Without Russia’s supply in the winter, Munton added, European nations will be forced to rely on imports of liquefied natural gas (LNG) even more from suppliers such as the United States. The problem is that Asia—a larger LNG market—is also vying for the same supplies, which means prices are always going to be higher than old piped gas from the East.

    “That’s really the crisis that Europe and the world confronts,” he added.
     
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    USA has around 40,000 gun deaths a year, 100+ PER DAY WITH 14,000 of those deaths being murder. I'm not worried about a handful of deaths a year in the UK.
     
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    And these deaths are black and Hispanic gangs at war over the drug trade. The murder rate among Americans of European descent is the same as the murder rate in Italy. These stat.s are from U.S. Department of Justice and INTERPOL.

    Bicycles kill 700 people a year in the USA. That is double the number of mass-shootings.

    Want to kill a bunch of people? Do what the terrorist did in Nice, France. Wait for a festival, steal a truck, and drive into the throng of people. The larger the truck you steal, the more deaths. The Nice terrorist trucker killed 86 and injured 458.

    There are 300 Million Americans. Around 35,000 Americans die due to falling. Drowning kills 3,000 people a year. "Electrical current" zaps-dead 260/year.

    Search string: "Chicago, wanted for murder"; time period "past week" images

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chicago+wanted+for+murder&t=newext&atb=v320-1&df=w&iax=images&ia=images

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    Gang warfare is perpetual in America's uncivilized urban areas. In the USA, cities are the least armed areas. The rural South and the rural Midwest are full of firearms (more guns than people). Yet, these areas have the lowest murder rates. Why? Because guns necessarily bring peace? No -- the humans who live there are able to use their brains to override their glandular activities.

    Think you can keep weapons out of the hands of gang career felons?! The MS-13 gangs that are now illegally entering America from Central America are bringing with them military weapons left over from the civil wars down there. The crime rates / murder rates in Central America are unimaginable. And all of that is heading to North America where gangs have already established turf.

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      As foreign gangs continue to grow in the UK, you will see more and more of what we must fight against here in the USA. What state and federal agencies can seize is but the tip of an iceberg. The arms trade is international.
      https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-49743431
      "More than 50 firearms, nearly 2,000 rounds of ammunition, and heroin valued at £80,000 were seized in raids by police tacking a gun-smuggling gang."
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  31. lonewolf

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    it is said in UK cities you can HIRE a gun for £200.
     
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    Rent the weapon, or hire a hit-man with a gun?

    I forget in which Central or South American city it was about that I saw a documentary in which the producers brought out that some gangs rented-out weaponry. Somehow, it increased the gang's money flow. I guess some can't afford the full price of the weapon, nor of a professional hit. We are living in strange days.

    Philippine tin-hut manufactured handguns and sub-machine-guns are less in price than those made by reputable manufacturers. Shipping runs their price up. Pakistani villages manufacture reliable, even accurate, battle rifles with a semi-auto / full-auto selector switch. Since Pakistanis are migrating to England, the arms trade follows them. These villages also crank-out tons of ammunition. Currently, the UK only has a few hundred thousand Pakistani migrants, but that will grow into the millions.
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    For crying out loud there is no comparison between the USA and the UK when it comes down to firearms, stop putting barely concealed racist views forward and grow up, try and wake up happy for once in your miserable lives.

    This forum is now a microcosm of paranoid/clinically depressed members and so far removed from being a 'survival' forum that the sites name is now a joke.

    The only member here who posts anything survival related is Dirtdiva, the rest of you are off with Mr Roarke living on fantasy island.

    I've spent two days opening up a capped well and sending off a water sample for analysis and thats survival related, what you have you lot done? Bugger all but moan.
     
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  34. poltiregist

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    You must be feeling a bit cranky this evening . Sometimes I get a bit discouraged also as I watch people walking off the cliff . However a true prepper is indeed paranoid . If they weren't paranoid then they simply would not be preparing for what might happen . As for being depressed however , that is not the case here . Prepping is sort of like a hobby that I enjoy doing . As for as the fantasy thing , I can partly agree with you on that one .
     
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      It's not a matter of people like that feeling cranky. He's got "Daddy issues". It's why he joined the military = to get away from the toxic home life he had. He's not a prepper, yet he comes here. He leans towards mercy, thus he identifies with the mother/feminine nature, the anti-father, the garden/Mother-nature aspect of creation. Why after the military, move to another country? Answer = to continue geting away from the toxic home ... yet again. Macho jobs? = Freudian. Dirt Diva being the great feminine person she is (great person in general; hell, I love her, who wounldn't), he loves her, he wants to grow a garden (me, I grow a garden because in my world, that was what you did ... BY GOD!, ha ha ha :D:D:D; my paternal grandfather tested me on the subject ... and hunting ... welcome to S.Appalachia). Were he not toxic, I'd fell sorry for our troll.
       
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    Growing one's own food is essential. However, one does not keep the food one has grown unless they can protect that produce from thieves. Making thieves go bye-bye is an essential part of surviving. Can't protect it from common felons or professional felons, to include government officials, is core prepping ... unless one is a child and hasn't witnessed humans behaving like monsters/wolves. Most survivalists have witnessed humans behaving like animals, watched people being attacked. It is sobering. It is instructive.

    We discuss clean water going absent and all of the rest of it, to include gardening. If you are not prepared to protect that which is yours, then you are not a true survivalist. Currently, things are going sideways as far a human "civilization" is concerned. Pre-adolescents do not want to face true adulthood. They wish to live in the land of Peter Pan. Even when I was a teenager, I knew murderers. "Welcome to Earth."

    Liberals pretend that weapons are the problem when in fact, out-of-control "humans" are the issue concerning the collapse of civilization. Behavior is genetic. Reality. Sorry. Wish it weren't true. Have had more non-"white" friends than whites (irony of ironies; but I've just come in contact with more superior people of other races; so it goes; thank you Lord for my friends of every ilk!) Call it bigotry, nevertheless the first thing a psychologist does is learn about the genetic family of the patient -- it's how we were trained and it is reality. Environmental influence is part of it. Genetic makeup is just as important, if not more so. Welcome to reality. My clinical practicum in Psych involved adults and youth. "An acorn falls not far from the oak."

    Races differ in behavioural patterns. Call Mother Nature racist. Take it up with Her.

    People who have evolved to adapt to the environment present on different continents are not the same. So what? "Superior" vs "inferior" -- those are human terms. Mother Nature is a cold b##ch. She doesn't care. She just does not. Whatever results in greater reproduction, She values.

    This site nor any other site needs not trolls. Someone who sees no value in being able to annihilate those who would take and redistribute that which they have gone to great lengths to store are not survivors. The descriptor of a non-prepper is "latent victim." If you imagine government to be your friend, then you are a born victim and/or a mega-masochist.

    Europe is being invaded in slow motion. Try to pretend that away.

    The following links are examples of how Spanish police deal with migrants. Like machismo? You'll love the "Spanish way". Eventually -- and especially given the coming mass famines in Africa -- Spain, Italy, and Greece will be overwhelmed ... unless the authorities "do the deed" on them.



    https://mysurvivalforum.com/threads/collapse-of-europe.11493/page-5#post-96296



    I've stood by and watched people die. There was nothing whatsoever I could do. Welcome to Earth.

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  36. lonewolf

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    "just because your paranoid dosent mean they arent out to get you", favourite saying of my HA brother.
    paranoid people are NOT surprised by anything, people with their heads in the sand are surprised by EVERTHING.
    nothing depressing about prepping, the opposite in fact, its uplifting knowing we are doing something that could help us and ours to survive when those who dont wont.
     
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      Like so many other things in life: "I wish this were not true." "I wish that were not true."
      Magical thinking does not make reality anything other than that which it is.
      Many religions teach that this is a "plane of testing" and/or "tests and difficulties cause the soul to mature". For argument's sake, let's pretend that that is true. What a knife to the chest!
      Old Gzr sez: If I'm going to some paradise, then I'm not prepared. Far too many sick, unimaginable, soul-raping things have happened to me in this world. I've only experienced flashes of happiness. If I do get to be happy on the other side (the hundreds of life-after-death experiencers say it is true), then I will have to learn about this this happiness thingy. I'm a jokester and try to make others happy at home and at work; but me, I've been in the middle of too much hell.
       
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  37. lonewolf

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    a healthy dose of paranoia would seem to be necessary with all that is going on these days.
    we have a war between Russia and Ukraine, weapons and finance being sent to Ukraine by all the major powers including US and UK, both being threatened by Putin, UK being threatened with being wiped off the map by the Kremlin and its stoogies.
    an energy crisis in the UK brought on by stupid green levies and the war in Ukraine, the Nord Stream gas pipeline being shut off to Germany -again- by Russia for "maintenance".
    we have a labour crisis in UK with many unions going on strike from Rail Workers to Barristers, now BT and Post Office staff are out on strike today, possibly more to follow in their wake, oh! dont forget the refuse workers strike in Edinburgh, although thats over until the next one it has brought on a plague of rats now heading for residential homes-oh joy!
    we will probably lose most of the British pubs over the winter, about 70% of the smaller independent ones anyway, as their fuel bills arent capped like the home ones, they will have to charge £15 a pint and no one is going to pay that, same with many small businesses too, I heard some of them are already laying off staff ahead of the fuel bills.
    many people are heading for an early death this winter due to the ever rising fuel bills, every time its announced the annual amount has risen yet again, many people on low pay or on a fixed income wont be able to pay and will turn off their heating and freeze to death this winter, especially if we have a cold one which is quite likely.
    as for Gun crime in the UK being different to US, maybe-just maybe! but its getting more and more and what do the Police do? dance the Macarana and bend the knee and other woke stuff, lets hope Liz Truss gives them a roasting when she becomes PM. a report just out says "British policing has lost its way"....I'll say!!
    Paranoid? you'd better believe it !! but thats better than ignoring reality right under one's nose.
    anyone who dosent think we are heading for TSHTF, hell its here already, "should have gone to Specsavers"!!! and anyone who dosent prepare after all the above(I've probably missed a couple of things) needs their head examined.
     
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      "... a healthy dose of paranoia would seem to be necessary with all that is going on these days."
      Who in their right mind wants this to be true; yet, ... . "The hurricane will miss us, I'm sure of it." Two days later, this person's house is just so many scattered sections of wood and debris. "God has abandoned me!!!" No pilgrim, welcome to this world. What is the exit door from this world? Yep, death. Hurrah!:(
       
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    I agree with Max rigger. We need some smiles! Sure ,UK and Europe are in a pickle,but there are positives. I like to see the bright side of life. Today I have been fishing - a good session too- I’ve just harvested Winter Squash and Borlotti beans for drying ,and picked up more coal on the way back from the river. The solar panels are charging batteries right now, and there’s plenty of firewood to stack,along with the three Winters worth!

    UK gas and electricity can go and whistle ,’cos I’m alright Jack!

    Current problems are exactly what I prepared for. Here’s a big smile!
     
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    the fact you agree with Max comes as no surprise to any of the members here.
    "I'm all right jack" is why this country and this civilisation is in the mess it is today.
    Snowflakes and Woke and all the transgender pronouns rubbish will be the downfall of western civilisation, that and the greed of many today.
     
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    If we have members that think this site is depressing , then I would think they shouldn't be here . They obviously don't understand preppers . An interesting statement made , that someone would consider themselves only prepping for " current " situations " . I don't see how that could be considered prepping . That is simply reacting the best they can when the situation is already upon them .-- The reason that I stated I partly agreed with Max rigger on the fantasy issue . There is a thin line between trying to envision any SHTF issues that may be incoming and preparing accordingly and fantasy . The biggest difference I suppose is actually trying to be realistic as to what may be the future and " confront and prepare " for the issue , and not just traveling down the road with unrealistic expectations .
     
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  41. Old Geezer

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    The saving grace of it all is seen in our poverty-enwrapped ancestors. Tell me that they were not preppers, I dare you. They were turbo-preppers! For them, EVERY winter was a killer. Therefore, they prepared. Reality was smack-dab in their faces. Had they not succeeded, we would not exist.

    Did our ancestors kick-up their heels and celebrate? Oh hell yes they did! After surviving unsurvivable conditions, in spring they busted-open the winter stores that were not consumed and partied down.

    To be a prepper, does one have to plum the depths of abstruse texts? Heavens, NO! Just do what your ancestors did. Think about all the tools we have today that were missing in their world. Common farming tools (non-electric/non-fuel operated) are available to us by the stacks. One end of my behind-the-house shed is full of fabulous steel tools -- some of which are decades upon decades old ... yet they work. You'll find me in antique stores looking at tools. For nostalgia? No. For today's use.
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    Even within my own lifetime things were so different to now, my parents and wife's parents who had all gone through a world war had a larder and grew their own food, not many do these days.
    they thought there was going to be a war with Russia or rather the Soviet Union as it was then, they were right, just 70 years out!!
     
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    there are too many people who think " it'll never happen"-some of my in-laws for a start! even though the evidence is right under their nose, even sadly some in the prepping community too.
    it is better to prepare and nothing happens, than to not bother and be found wanting.
     
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    --- For our UK members here is the information the rest of the planet is receiving on your plight . I predict it will become much worse than what they are showing on the video . Even now in the very early stages of the collapse , UK citizens can not afford to cook their food . The sheeple were depending on electricity to cook with . I hope Paul M has plenty of gasoline to get in his vehicle to drive to the lake , get in his motor boat and catch fish . I hope Lonewolf has a good plan on how to get his hands on those wood pigeons and some good recipes . This is fascinating to me to watch country after country follow the spiral downwards like Venezuela and Sri Lanka . The United States is not that for down the crapper yet , but we are on the way . We are indeed living in interesting times for preppers as we watch desperation devour the planet .
     
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    the stupid thing is this new energy cap dosent come in until 1st October the current cap is around £1900 per year. current bills will be low because we are in the Summer quarter, the big bills will be the winter ones which wont be sent out until early in 2023. many pay by monthly direct debit and are set high so that they stay in credit, better to just pay the bill when it comes in, that way you only pay for what you actually use.
    only a fraction of the population is on standard tariffs, mostly those on prepayment meters for instance, and some private rentals, most people have a fixed rate deal.
    someone was complaining just this morning online about paying £7 for 30 Birds Eye fish fingers, buy non birds eye in Lidl and they'll pay half that (£3.30) and its just as tasty, even better my wife says.
     
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    Today's younger generations have grown up knowing what passes for security. They've not gone to bed hungry. They've never been required to work gardens and do work for the families elderly neighbors. Practically any kind of manual labor they've never been forced to do. They can't kill game. They are poor shots ... if indeed they've even picked up a rifle. They can't grow food. They don't know how to forage food. They do not even know how to use the most common tools. Too, they don't even own tools, nor guns, nor maps, nor a compass, nor fishing equipment, ...

    Younger generations talk back to their parents. I've even heard them curse their parents. Had I ever talked back to my parents, or god-forbid, thrown a tantrum, I'd have gotten a hell whipping. My dad's mom used to burn my legs with a switch. She whipped my dad and his brothers until their legs bled. My dearest Pap beat my dad and brothers with a razor strap.

    Me, I was smart (also very sneaky), I challenged authority NOT. I did what I was told to do. I was never given orders that were unreasonable, thus I had no basis in arguing. My elders were painfully, powerfully honest. They themselves were disciplined to the max. And too, they liked kids. You were a kid, people joked, people told stories about great and great-great grandparents, played their own music (everyone could play some musical instrument), went to dances, tipped back some shine occasionally. Life was fun, yet very ordered. This was what is generally referred to as "survival".

    All of this structure is today lost. No discipline. Big egos. Arrogance to the max. No survival skill sets. And, they are chicken to fight.
     
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    you are quite right, I had to do chores to get my pocket money, polish the shoes, mow the lawn, clean out the grate and lay the fire, take out the refuse, do the carpet sweeping etc.etc. kids these days dont, and they get too much money, I was told step grandson spends £100 on a T shirt!!!
    as for food they only eat what comes out of a supermarket, wild food of any kind is beyond their comprehension.
     
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    "... wild food of any kind is beyond their comprehension."

    This phenom is quite irksome to me.

    It's not just a growing phenom, but is now full-blown. Over 85% of people in the West and in most urban areas over 95% of people are utterly disconnected from the natural world. It is as if they are living in a bubble. In this case, it is a concrete bubble/box. Funny that many are Gaia worshipers yet know not the very entity which they worship.

    Here is my reference point: When I was a kid, I felt like I was "inside of nature". My family and most all of my kin were embedded in the natural order of things. I had relatives who "lived up in the holler" and they grew and shot their own food or it wasn't on the table. To go to a grocery store would have required that they drive down out of the mountains to some small town far away. Sure they went to town. However in winter, they were where they were. I lived in a small town, yet we grew gardens and I would hunt with my mom's dad. The town was nestled in a valley between vast mountain ranges. When we kids played, we were outside. Even in winter, we were outside. Winter taught a kid how to get fires started in stoves and fireplaces. Lord only knows how many fireplace fires I started to stay warm -- dozens upon dozens upon dozens all before age 12 ... then beyond that. Add that I stoked the coal furnace and got the clinkers out with the long tongs (melting my eyebrows). My family used to gather water up in the hills for the water that was most pure. City water was to bathe in / wash your car. In my house today, I have water purifiers -- I can't EVEN :confused::mad: handle the taste of chlorinated water.

    As a child, I worked gardens. I knew how to stay warm without electricity. I hiked the mountains and hunted on their slopes. I was surrounded by wild creatures in the sky, up the trees, on the ground, under the waters of lakes and streams. I was WITHIN THIS THING CALLED LIFE. I was a mere blip in the world. I was teeny tiny. Mess up and you just might just die. Bears and poisonous snakes shared the same environment. No discipline = death.

    Today's generations have lost all of that. They do not know who they are or even what they are.

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    most people in the UK (there may be a few exceptions but low in number) havent got a clue where their food comes from, many of the more urban dwellers do not have access to farms or farm shops or food markets and have to buy all their food from supermarkets, take wife's nephew for instance, he lives in a large urban town not a city but a typical urban enclave, he has probably 15 supermarkets all within a few minutes drive but no farm shops, and many people are exactly the same, so of course how can they have any idea about fresh food, some of the stuff they eat I wouldnt touch with a barge pole.
    the trouble with eating processed foods is that they are full of chemicals, preservatives and other stuff and even the so called "fresh" food we dont know how its been reared or grown,
    potatoes for instance are sprayed with up to 30 different chemicals and a residue always remains even when its in the shops.
     
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    An amusing headline that I saw on Europe's predicament " save the planet freeze a granny ". The upcoming die off from the lack of heat this winter is looming . It appears from what I have gathered nearly all in Europe have not prepared for anything as they supposed some other country would save them if things went sideways . Perhaps this is a hold over attitude from World War Two . Maybe my conclusion is wrong , but that is what my incoming information indicates .
     
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