Crazy Evil People And Gun Control

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  1. TexDanm

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    Well once again some Evil person has shot and killed a bunch of evil people. And once again the liberals answer is to take the guns away from the good and honest people. They are so stupid that they just can't understand that there are NO LAWS possible that would have prevented this.

    The reality is that the weapons he used were full automatic and were already illegal. It was against the law to discharge a firearm inside the city limits. It's against the law to shoot at people AND guess what murder is against the law. At what point do these idiots understand that these people don't obey laws and so laws have no effect on them and ONLY disarm good honest folks.

    They are not saying what that nut was using but it was NOT an AR-15! I suspect that it was an illegally converted AR-10 with illegal snail drum magazines. I knew the first time that I heard one of the recordings that that wasn't any sort of semiautomatic nor even an illegal converted AR-15. The cadence was wrong, the bark was wrong and more than anything else the runs between pauses was too long. An M-16 runs a 30 round mag dry in under 3 seconds on full auto. That SOB was running longer.

    At first I thought it was maybe an M-60. the cadence and bark was about right but the runs were not belt length thank goodness. In the end they will find that most of the kills were heavy caliber, probably 7.62X51 slightly possibly 7.62X39 but I doubt it. He was shooting from around 500 meters and the kind of kills were not done by light or lower powered rounds. To get that sort of result some of those rounds were passing through and nailing more than one person. From a high hide he wasn't shooting an unsupported weapon. We will see but right now it is looking awful strange for someone with as little training as he supposedly had to pull this insanity off.

    We live in crazy times. I'm amazed that it has taken this long for someone to do this. Those poor people were packed in there like sardines!!
     
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  2. lonewolf

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    Same as Manchester , packed in like sardines, only it was a bomb not a gun.
     
  3. Old Geezer

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    Something is way wrong about the Vegas attack; private aircraft usage, ties to Philippines (large Muslim community), international money transfers (not small), his girlfriend has ties to political nefarious character(s), ..., really strange. If multi-players involved, we'll never know. He used bump device, if you believe FBI. But then, any milled receivers? Any custom receivers? If custom, who provided? Speaking of receivers, ... On and on, I guess it will all be done out of the reach of public purview. The investigation will be another Waco.

    Political timing is serendipitous for the Left, that's for sure.

    Things are coming apart in America.
     
  4. TexDanm

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    What I can't believe is that before they actually KNOW anything they are automatically saying that there is absolutely no connection to ISIS or other Islamic Terrorists. His body wasn't even cold and they were saying that this wasn't a terrorist attack!! I bet those poor people that were down in that barrel being shot at would debate that. They looked pretty damn terrified to me.

    After a year with no evidence the FBI still won't say that there was no indication of collusion between Russia and Trump. Why do they want to clear ISIS so much?? I think they need to dump most of the FBI and start over. 8 years of Obummer has stocked that pond with too many trash fish! Most of the idiots are more interested in playing cover my ass than catching or stopping terrorists. They don't cooperate and I think that playing politics with peoples lives by not sharing info across law enforcement lines is disgustingly ignorant.

    I am a rabid supporter of the Second Amendment but to me any mechanical device that allows a semiautomatic to fire in a fashion that makes it indistinguishable from a fully automatic weapon is just not covered by that. Civilians don't need full auto weapons, hand grenades, bombs or surface to air missiles to defend their freedom. If it was a bump stock that the guy was using that would explain the odd cadence of the fire. I tried one many many years ago and it wasn't nearly that sort of effective. They must have massively improved them since then...OR maybe they work more dependably on 308 ARs than the 223 AR I tried it on.
     
  5. Old Geezer

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    If England only had gun control laws, this freedom fighter, Sasha Johnson would not have been put in hospital with life-threatening injuries. When will England wake up and tighten the lax gun restrictions there! All these Brits running around armed!

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...-of-black-lives-matter-radical-sasha-johnson/

    "Supporters of Black Lives Matter activist Sasha Johnson blamed the media for her shooting during a vigil held outside of the hospital where she remains in critical condition.

    "A vigil held in the Ruskin Park bandstand in Lambeth, London on Monday afternoon — which was promoted by the official Black Lives Matter UK organisation — saw around one hundred well-wishers gather to support Sasha Johnson, the self-described 'Black Panther of Oxford' who was shot in the head in the early hours of Sunday morning.

    "Another speaker went on to urge the crowd to not give the 'white supremacist media' anything to report on, saying: don’t give them a story, don’t give them a narrative, don’t give them anything until they give us something.'"

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    We are all aware that there are no gang activities in England. Couldn't be that.

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    https://www.independentsentinel.com/dangerous-blm-uk-leader-sasha-johnson-shot-critically-injured/

    "She [Sasha Johnson] rose in prominence last year for her advocacy of the creation of an armed black militia, the abolishment of police, and the overthrowing of capitalism, Andy Ngo reported.

    "We wrote about her this past January. She’s dangerous. Johnson created a new party, the Taking the Initiative Party (TTIP), that excludes white people from leadership roles. She has tweeted about ‘enslaving whites’. Johnson is an intersectional leftist.

    "Johnson has called for ‘Holocaust-style’ reparations for all black people and a sex offenders-style ‘race offense register.’

    "Anyone who disagrees with Johnson has been a target of her cruelty. Over the summer, videos were posted showing her repeatedly calling a black man a racial slur because he disagreed with her, suggesting he would end up on her own registry. She has also discussed enslaving white people on her Instagram account.

    "In addition to her work for TTIP, Johnson also works with a U.K. organization called the New Black Panthers Party 'and has called for the establishment of a ‘black militia’ in the UK,' the Mail reported."
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-dominate-gun-and-drugs-trade-outside-london

    "Organised criminal gangs from Liverpool have risen to the summit of the UK underworld and 'dominate' the firearms and drugs-trade outside London, the latest intelligence from senior officers at the National Crime Agency (NCA) reveals.

    "Analysis of encrypted messages from a communications system used by criminals has shown that the city has become the preeminent location for top-tier gangs sourcing high-volume importations of drugs and automatic weapons.

    "Analysis by the NFTC found that Merseyside and the broader north-west corridor was home to a network of gun factories converting low-calibre weapons such as the Czech-made Škorpion and Slovakian Grand Power into deadly automatic firearms.

    "Perfect said that converting weapons was seen by some in the region as a viable business. A low-calibre Glock handgun bought for £135 in eastern Europe could be converted in just 90 seconds to a 9mm weapon that could be sold for up to £5,000.

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    “'The mark-up is quite staggering. Liverpool, the north-west, is so active in this area,' said Perfect. Hickinbottom said that north-west-based 'resellers' were importing £3.50 plastic switches from China that could swiftly convert a Glock into an automatic firearm.

    "Analysis of the intelligence from EncroChat has revealed other surprises to firearms officers. Perfect said: 'If you’d asked me before Venetic what was the firearm of choice for an organised crime group, I’d have absolutely said the Glock handgun. Venetic showed that the Škorpion SMG and the Grand Power are now becoming that weapon of choice.'

    "But the kingpins of Merseyside’s criminal syndicates have largely fled the city, electing to direct large-scale importation of firearms and drugs from overseas, most often from Holland, Dubai and the south of Spain. Analysis from Operation Venetic has also showed that some directed hitmen to execute rivals from their overseas bases. In some cases grenades were left in the gardens of targets.

    "Being abroad also offers the advantage of face-to-face networking with other international criminals.

    “'These locations operate like the Wall Street of criminality. Your highest-end members have to be present and carry that level of credibility; you’re not going to be doing that from Liverpool.

    “'You might want access to South Americans, access to Dutch hauliers for logistics, access to customers back in the UK. It’s about sculpting your business model,' said Perfect."
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  6. lonewolf

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    the media said she wasnt targetted but I'm not so sure. anyone with a big gob like hers makes themselves a target.
     
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  7. lonewolf

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    it now appears that "4 Black males entered the garden of the property and discharged a weapon"-twice. so its not racial then?
    she lives in Oxford, what was she doing in Peckham, London at 3 o'clock in the morning on a Sunday?
    as we say over here "who did she piss off?"
    there is more to this story than is being said.
     
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  8. TexDanm

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    As far as I am concerned, the ONLY gun control that I pay attention to is that I ALWAYS will hit what I aim at. It has always bothered me that a government that is supposed to be of, for and by the citizens would want to disarm their citizens. Do they love the criminals so much that they want to protect them? Do they want to disarm us so when they stop this Democracy farce and show their true intentions that we won't be able to resist them??? Good honest people do not harm anyone with their guns. I am nearly 70 and have had guns since my 9th birthday when my dad gave me a gun of my own for Christmas. I have never used it to commit a crime. Why would they want to disarm me? I WILL die a free man and a gun owner because when they take my gun that means that I am no longer truly free. I will take an escort to hell with me when they come to take them...
     
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  9. watcherchris

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    Dont have much use for a full auto weapon.....as they can get very expensive to feed them. Particularly at today's ammo prices.

    If I want to shoot alot I prefer a 12 or 20 gauge with the appropriate fodder.


    Been hearing stories about one of these Educated, Illuminated, touchy feely congressmen proposing licenses for owning.
    guns.

    Talk about stupid running amok....and not knowing the difference...even in regards to the oath they have sworn to uphold..


    You do not license the fundamental rights of people......

    Once you license them you switch their effect from Rights under the Constitution of the United States to privileges granted by the Sovereign.....like the British and many Europeans have. We are not Europeans or Brits.

    I am often given to think even our leaders really are this incredibly and giftedly stupid....with their educations and common sense....run right off the cliff...and they want us to run right off the cliff with them.

    Also I am thinking this kind of knowledge/information/understanding/history is studiously avoided in schools now days.


    I have no idea who is this Sasha Johnson..but I am sure we will be breeding/grooming them for our congress if not already...


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchri
     
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