Crazy Evil People And Gun Control

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  1. TexDanm

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    Well once again some Evil person has shot and killed a bunch of evil people. And once again the liberals answer is to take the guns away from the good and honest people. They are so stupid that they just can't understand that there are NO LAWS possible that would have prevented this.

    The reality is that the weapons he used were full automatic and were already illegal. It was against the law to discharge a firearm inside the city limits. It's against the law to shoot at people AND guess what murder is against the law. At what point do these idiots understand that these people don't obey laws and so laws have no effect on them and ONLY disarm good honest folks.

    They are not saying what that nut was using but it was NOT an AR-15! I suspect that it was an illegally converted AR-10 with illegal snail drum magazines. I knew the first time that I heard one of the recordings that that wasn't any sort of semiautomatic nor even an illegal converted AR-15. The cadence was wrong, the bark was wrong and more than anything else the runs between pauses was too long. An M-16 runs a 30 round mag dry in under 3 seconds on full auto. That SOB was running longer.

    At first I thought it was maybe an M-60. the cadence and bark was about right but the runs were not belt length thank goodness. In the end they will find that most of the kills were heavy caliber, probably 7.62X51 slightly possibly 7.62X39 but I doubt it. He was shooting from around 500 meters and the kind of kills were not done by light or lower powered rounds. To get that sort of result some of those rounds were passing through and nailing more than one person. From a high hide he wasn't shooting an unsupported weapon. We will see but right now it is looking awful strange for someone with as little training as he supposedly had to pull this insanity off.

    We live in crazy times. I'm amazed that it has taken this long for someone to do this. Those poor people were packed in there like sardines!!
     
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  2. lonewolf

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    Same as Manchester , packed in like sardines, only it was a bomb not a gun.
     
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  3. Old Geezer

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    Something is way wrong about the Vegas attack; private aircraft usage, ties to Philippines (large Muslim community), international money transfers (not small), his girlfriend has ties to political nefarious character(s), ..., really strange. If multi-players involved, we'll never know. He used bump device, if you believe FBI. But then, any milled receivers? Any custom receivers? If custom, who provided? Speaking of receivers, ... On and on, I guess it will all be done out of the reach of public purview. The investigation will be another Waco.

    Political timing is serendipitous for the Left, that's for sure.

    Things are coming apart in America.
     
  4. TexDanm

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    What I can't believe is that before they actually KNOW anything they are automatically saying that there is absolutely no connection to ISIS or other Islamic Terrorists. His body wasn't even cold and they were saying that this wasn't a terrorist attack!! I bet those poor people that were down in that barrel being shot at would debate that. They looked pretty damn terrified to me.

    After a year with no evidence the FBI still won't say that there was no indication of collusion between Russia and Trump. Why do they want to clear ISIS so much?? I think they need to dump most of the FBI and start over. 8 years of Obummer has stocked that pond with too many trash fish! Most of the idiots are more interested in playing cover my ass than catching or stopping terrorists. They don't cooperate and I think that playing politics with peoples lives by not sharing info across law enforcement lines is disgustingly ignorant.

    I am a rabid supporter of the Second Amendment but to me any mechanical device that allows a semiautomatic to fire in a fashion that makes it indistinguishable from a fully automatic weapon is just not covered by that. Civilians don't need full auto weapons, hand grenades, bombs or surface to air missiles to defend their freedom. If it was a bump stock that the guy was using that would explain the odd cadence of the fire. I tried one many many years ago and it wasn't nearly that sort of effective. They must have massively improved them since then...OR maybe they work more dependably on 308 ARs than the 223 AR I tried it on.
     
  5. Old Geezer

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    If England only had gun control laws, this freedom fighter, Sasha Johnson would not have been put in hospital with life-threatening injuries. When will England wake up and tighten the lax gun restrictions there! All these Brits running around armed!

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...-of-black-lives-matter-radical-sasha-johnson/

    "Supporters of Black Lives Matter activist Sasha Johnson blamed the media for her shooting during a vigil held outside of the hospital where she remains in critical condition.

    "A vigil held in the Ruskin Park bandstand in Lambeth, London on Monday afternoon — which was promoted by the official Black Lives Matter UK organisation — saw around one hundred well-wishers gather to support Sasha Johnson, the self-described 'Black Panther of Oxford' who was shot in the head in the early hours of Sunday morning.

    "Another speaker went on to urge the crowd to not give the 'white supremacist media' anything to report on, saying: don’t give them a story, don’t give them a narrative, don’t give them anything until they give us something.'"

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    We are all aware that there are no gang activities in England. Couldn't be that.

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    https://www.independentsentinel.com/dangerous-blm-uk-leader-sasha-johnson-shot-critically-injured/

    "She [Sasha Johnson] rose in prominence last year for her advocacy of the creation of an armed black militia, the abolishment of police, and the overthrowing of capitalism, Andy Ngo reported.

    "We wrote about her this past January. She’s dangerous. Johnson created a new party, the Taking the Initiative Party (TTIP), that excludes white people from leadership roles. She has tweeted about ‘enslaving whites’. Johnson is an intersectional leftist.

    "Johnson has called for ‘Holocaust-style’ reparations for all black people and a sex offenders-style ‘race offense register.’

    "Anyone who disagrees with Johnson has been a target of her cruelty. Over the summer, videos were posted showing her repeatedly calling a black man a racial slur because he disagreed with her, suggesting he would end up on her own registry. She has also discussed enslaving white people on her Instagram account.

    "In addition to her work for TTIP, Johnson also works with a U.K. organization called the New Black Panthers Party 'and has called for the establishment of a ‘black militia’ in the UK,' the Mail reported."
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-dominate-gun-and-drugs-trade-outside-london

    "Organised criminal gangs from Liverpool have risen to the summit of the UK underworld and 'dominate' the firearms and drugs-trade outside London, the latest intelligence from senior officers at the National Crime Agency (NCA) reveals.

    "Analysis of encrypted messages from a communications system used by criminals has shown that the city has become the preeminent location for top-tier gangs sourcing high-volume importations of drugs and automatic weapons.

    "Analysis by the NFTC found that Merseyside and the broader north-west corridor was home to a network of gun factories converting low-calibre weapons such as the Czech-made Škorpion and Slovakian Grand Power into deadly automatic firearms.

    "Perfect said that converting weapons was seen by some in the region as a viable business. A low-calibre Glock handgun bought for £135 in eastern Europe could be converted in just 90 seconds to a 9mm weapon that could be sold for up to £5,000.

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    “'The mark-up is quite staggering. Liverpool, the north-west, is so active in this area,' said Perfect. Hickinbottom said that north-west-based 'resellers' were importing £3.50 plastic switches from China that could swiftly convert a Glock into an automatic firearm.

    "Analysis of the intelligence from EncroChat has revealed other surprises to firearms officers. Perfect said: 'If you’d asked me before Venetic what was the firearm of choice for an organised crime group, I’d have absolutely said the Glock handgun. Venetic showed that the Škorpion SMG and the Grand Power are now becoming that weapon of choice.'

    "But the kingpins of Merseyside’s criminal syndicates have largely fled the city, electing to direct large-scale importation of firearms and drugs from overseas, most often from Holland, Dubai and the south of Spain. Analysis from Operation Venetic has also showed that some directed hitmen to execute rivals from their overseas bases. In some cases grenades were left in the gardens of targets.

    "Being abroad also offers the advantage of face-to-face networking with other international criminals.

    “'These locations operate like the Wall Street of criminality. Your highest-end members have to be present and carry that level of credibility; you’re not going to be doing that from Liverpool.

    “'You might want access to South Americans, access to Dutch hauliers for logistics, access to customers back in the UK. It’s about sculpting your business model,' said Perfect."
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  6. lonewolf

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    the media said she wasnt targetted but I'm not so sure. anyone with a big gob like hers makes themselves a target.
     
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  7. lonewolf

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    it now appears that "4 Black males entered the garden of the property and discharged a weapon"-twice. so its not racial then?
    she lives in Oxford, what was she doing in Peckham, London at 3 o'clock in the morning on a Sunday?
    as we say over here "who did she piss off?"
    there is more to this story than is being said.
     
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  8. TexDanm

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    As far as I am concerned, the ONLY gun control that I pay attention to is that I ALWAYS will hit what I aim at. It has always bothered me that a government that is supposed to be of, for and by the citizens would want to disarm their citizens. Do they love the criminals so much that they want to protect them? Do they want to disarm us so when they stop this Democracy farce and show their true intentions that we won't be able to resist them??? Good honest people do not harm anyone with their guns. I am nearly 70 and have had guns since my 9th birthday when my dad gave me a gun of my own for Christmas. I have never used it to commit a crime. Why would they want to disarm me? I WILL die a free man and a gun owner because when they take my gun that means that I am no longer truly free. I will take an escort to hell with me when they come to take them...
     
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  9. watcherchris

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    Dont have much use for a full auto weapon.....as they can get very expensive to feed them. Particularly at today's ammo prices.

    If I want to shoot alot I prefer a 12 or 20 gauge with the appropriate fodder.


    Been hearing stories about one of these Educated, Illuminated, touchy feely congressmen proposing licenses for owning.
    guns.

    Talk about stupid running amok....and not knowing the difference...even in regards to the oath they have sworn to uphold..


    You do not license the fundamental rights of people......

    Once you license them you switch their effect from Rights under the Constitution of the United States to privileges granted by the Sovereign.....like the British and many Europeans have. We are not Europeans or Brits.

    I am often given to think even our leaders really are this incredibly and giftedly stupid....with their educations and common sense....run right off the cliff...and they want us to run right off the cliff with them.

    Also I am thinking this kind of knowledge/information/understanding/history is studiously avoided in schools now days.


    I have no idea who is this Sasha Johnson..but I am sure we will be breeding/grooming them for our congress if not already...


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
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  10. Old Geezer

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    Big Brother on steroids

    Looks like new gun-control / people-control in for UK

    First, some background info:

    Background: Madman in Plymouth, Devon killed five people during a shooting spree. He used a pump shotgun.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-58195419

    Background: Meaning of the new word "incel" is a "Member of online comunity called incels
    Self delusional,egoistic pretends to be a nice guy
    "Blames others for his deprivation of sex or romantic relationship
    "Often has stereotypes for others
    "A person who is unable to find romantic partner or thinks is deprived of sex by other guys called CHAD"
    source: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Incel


    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...al-media-for-wrongthink-after-incel-shooting/

    "British police want to trawl gun owners’ social media for wrongthink after the Plymouth ‘incel’ shooting.

    "Former Metropolitan Police commissioner Lord Stevens has told the Sunday Telegraph that the police should now trawl the 'online content' of potential gun owners for 'an in-depth assessment of who these people are and what they think.'

    "Meanwhile, in MSM analyses, much attention has been focused on the concept of ‘incels’ (involuntary celibates) and their dangerously right-wing views on issues like women.

    "Here, for example, is a classic case of boundary-blurring and whipped-up hysteria from the Sunday Telegraph, in a section subtitled ‘Plymouth killer steeped in internet subculture that has been identified as increasingly dangerous’:

    "A man who supports women are [sic] ‘cucked’, a reference to a type of pornography.

    "This is irresponsibly, disgracefully, wilfully off-beam. A cuck is not, by any reasonable definition, a man who 'supports women'. Rather it is a term of not unjustified contempt for the kind of politically correct, left-wing agitator who renounces all forms of traditional masculinity and who embraces Third and Fourth Wave feminism. See the difference? What the Telegraph is doing here is rebranding ALL males who are sceptical of the woke agenda as crazed, right-wing terrorist loons.

    "It’s particularly bizarre that the Sunday Telegraph, traditionally a newspaper for the kind of Conservative-voting rural folk who enjoy the perfectly legitimate hobby of shooting game, should be participating in a charade whose obvious real purpose is to make Britain’s stringent gun laws even stricter — to the point where owning a shotgun becomes virtually impossible.

    "American readers will recognise exactly what is going on here because it is a familiar response every time there is a mass shooting incident: always, but always, the anti-Second-Amendment lobby will seize on it as an excuse to advance their nefarious agenda to disarm citizens and strengthen the totalitarian state.

    "But in Britain the political and media class are pushing at a largely open door. Gun ownership is increasingly seen as frivolous, dispensable and dangerous — a preserve of a few reactionaries who refuse to understand that guns have no place in a civilised society and that shooting game is cruel.

    "Make no mistake, this is the beginning of the end for legal gun-ownership in Britain. The government and media response to the Plymouth incident is a classic case of Problem, Reaction, Solution.

    "Yes, the local police do indeed have questions to answer as to why Davison had still had possession of a pump-action shotgun when he had been on a police assault charge two months earlier and when members of his family had contacted mental health professionals for help.

    "Here is what George Orwell, who was certainly no right-wing ideologue, had to say on the matter:

    "'The totalitarian states can do great things, but there is one thing they cannot do: they cannot give the factory-worker a rifle and tell him to take it home and keep it in his bedroom. That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer’s cottage, is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.'"
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  11. watcherchris

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    That is what happens when you are a subject with privileges and not rights as a citizen.

    Someone here wants to make us subjects and I have been thinking for many many years now that someone wants here in America to make us subjects like Englishmen and privileges granted or taken away by the will of the sovereign.

    We are Yanks and not Englishmen and no desire to so become.


    Some of our own leaders here are pure 24 carat stupid in wanting to licenses and insurance gun ownership.

    You have to become pure 24 Carat Educated, Enlightened, and Illuminated into the backside of a donkey.....Democrat...to want to put licenses and or insurance on gun ownership and think no one notices that you are by slight of hand deceiving people into thinking it is still a right when it is being transferred into a privilege.

    This is pure Bravo Sierra...as you do not license or insure a God Given Right.

    Next thing you know you will not be trusted with your vote...in anything..

    Not difficult to reason that one through as well. And the 2020 election clearly demonstrated that the American People could not be trusted with their vote or to know what is best for them.

    Be Warned the Ishmaelites who want to make us into Englishmen with privileges granted or taken away by the sovereign....no thanks.

    Be Warned the Ishmaelites at work....Be Warned the Crown Internationalist Deep Staters at work.

    Be Warned of these professional BS Artists....trying to pass as leaders....and clearly operating against their oath of office...you do not license and insure a God Given Right.

    This is Treason



    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris.
     
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  12. Old Geezer

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    Ban assault SUVs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    "SUV drives through Christmas parade in Wisconsin, killing multiple people: police"

    https://globalnews.ca/news/8391541/car-parade-wisconsin/

    "Multiple people were killed Sunday after an SUV crashed through a Christmas parade in Waukesha, Wis., according to the local police chief.

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    "Waukesha Police Chief Daniel Thompson said 'some' fatalities occurred but did not specify how many, the ages or names as police are currently working on reaching families.

    “'The vehicle struck more than 20 individuals. Some of the individuals were children and there are some fatalities as a result of this incident,' Thompson said.

    "Waukesha Fire Department Chief Steven Howard said his staff transported 11 adults and 12 children to six area hospitals, but it is unknown how many were transported by others.

    "Corey Montiho, a Waukesha school district board member, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that his daughter’s dance team was hit by the SUV.

    “'There were pom-poms and shoes and spilled hot chocolate everywhere. I had to go from one crumpled body to the other to find my daughter,' he said. 'My wife and two daughters were almost hit. Please pray for everybody. Please pray.'”

    other posts:

    https://nypost.com/2021/11/21/witne...in-christmas-parade-bodies-flying-everywhere/

    https://www.wisn.com/article/suv-dr...iday-parade-multiple-people-injured/38313309#

    I just want to puke. :(:(:(:(:(:(

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  13. lonewolf

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    evil people dont always need a gun to kill people!!
     
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  14. Old Geezer

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    Looks like the guy was fleeing the scene of a knifing. Too early to know.

    I'm going to throw out some links. The information is scattered, however. This guy has a history of run-ins with the law. His posts make him sound mean/crazy. He was upset about the Rittenhouse verdict; however, it is WAY too early to state that he did this in retaliation. Could just be that he was higher than a kite and running from the police. ??????????? Too early to know.

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/Wisconsin?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw

    https://heavy.com/news/darrell-brooks-jr/

    https://milnenews.com/2021/11/22/da...r-who-plowed-into-wisconsin-christmas-parade/

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    He was a dangerous felon. Court system let him out on very low bail amounts.

    https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/11/22/darrell-brooks-criminal-record/

    Article quotes in color Blue:

    Serious felony charges didn’t keep him in jail and a “congested” court system delayed trial.

    Milwaukee County’s backlogged court system is responsible for the man in custody in the Waukesha parade massacre remaining on the streets more than a year after he was charged with serious felonies, including a gun offense, Wisconsin Right Now has learned.

    We’ve learned from scanner audio and other sources that the man in custody in the parade horror is Darrell Brooks Jr. What’s his criminal record? He has two open felony cases in Milwaukee County and a lengthy string of criminal arrests across multiple counties and states.

    He’s a 39-year-old felon from Milwaukee County, and the Milwaukee Court system suspended his speedy trial rights due to “court congestion,” releasing him on $500 bail even though he was facing serious weapons and other felony charges.

    Then, even though he was socked with a string of new felony charges, he was released again – on $1,000 bail – three days before the parade massacre.



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    He also has a criminal history in Nevada and likely fled Nevada due to these charges.


    https://meaww.com/darrell-brooks-sex-offender-viral-video-waukesha-suspect-sex-crimes-pedophile

    He himself said that he had a "baby mama" in Nevada.
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  15. TexDanm

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    The major problem is that the criminals and lowlifes have WAAAAAYYYYY more rights than the average honest American citizen. Those people that he killed had no rights under the law to be safe compared to his rights to be free to do as he pleases which he has shown over and over is to hurt people and commit crimes. If we would now put the people responsible that released him in the cell with him for a month I bet that they would better consider their decisions in the future.
     
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  16. Old Geezer

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    "If we would now put the people responsible that released him in the cell with him for a month I bet that they would better consider their decisions in the future."

    Seems one bloody fine idea to me.
     
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