Demonic Insanity In Gun Control.....are They For Real???

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  1. Old Geezer

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    There's been another school shooting in the USSA.

    This was of course another copycat catastrophe. Thanks mainstream media for spending millions of your propaganda dollars on publishing the details of these killings. The copy-cat mass-murder plague has thus been given even more momentum. Soon, we'll read in the press all about the nutcase who has now ascended to the station of "infamous". In the mind of a psychotic, there is zero differentiation between fame and infamy.

    The wind-up biden doll has already called for banning guns in the shadow of this media-generated murder.
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    "CBS Blames Guns for Possible Trans Terrorist Shooting Up Christian School "

    https://www.newsbusters.org/node/277875/print

    "On Monday, a transgender activist shot up a Christian school in Nashville Tennessee, killing three nine-year-old children and three teachers in an apparent hate crime against Christians. While all three networks mentioned a hate-filled transgender monster shot and killed six innocent Christians, the mentions were brief and CBS Evening News anchor Norah O’Donnell opened her program with a lecture on 'gun violence.'

    “'Tonight, a targeted attack in Tennessee. A scene that has become all too common in America: A mass shooting. This time at a private Christian grade school in Nashville,' O’Donnell reported. She could've mentioned that once again a radical trans activist carried out a mass shooting, but she - like most leftists - was far more comfortable blaming guns.

    "O’Donnell’s only mention of the evil person who murdered six people was a brief mention of the suspect’s identity. She never mentions that the shooter was a mentally ill woman who pretended to be a man. She left that detail up to correspondent Janet Shamlian.

    "It should be noted that if the suspect was a straight white Trump supporter who shot and killed students and teachers at a Muslim or Jewish school, her focus would be the perpetrator's identity and the danger of Trump’s rhetoric and anti-Muslim or anti-Semitic bigotry. As they did with the Tree of Life synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh, when they tried to tie it to Trump despite the shooter being anti-Trump.

    "You aren’t allowed to own weapons to protect yourself, but allies of the Biden regime are permitted."
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    "Update: Female-to-Male Trans Terrorist Shooter Kills Six People At Christian School – Left Manifesto"

    https://www.infowars.com/posts/trag...ian-school-shooting-including-three-children/

    "Update: Monday’s murder suspect who shot and killed six people including three children at a Christian school in Nashville, Tennessee was a transgender person, or woman living as a man, named Audrey Hale.

    "According to journalist Andy Ngo, social media posts reveal Hale’s pronouns online are “he/him.”

    "With recent rhetoric promoted by the media and Democrat politicians that Tennessee is passing “anti-trans” legislation, it’s possible the shooter’s motive was political and/or religious.

    "Ngo pointed out Monday the shooting comes amid a recent rise in threats against state lawmakers who support banning gender transition surgeries for minors.

    "Ngo also questioned whether hormone medications could have played a role in pushing Hale towards violence.

    "Was the #Nashville trans mass shooter on cross-sex hormones (in this case, testosterone)? Women committing mass shootings are exceptionally rare, but if Audrey 'Aiden' Hale took testosterone, it could explain part of the male-typical mass violence the Christian school tragically…

    "How much hormones like testosterone and medications for mental illness was the transgender Nashville school shooter taking?

    "Police also told reporters the shooter planned to terrorize another school, but changed plans because that facility had too much security.

    "After the press conference, an anti-gun activist hijacked the microphone and told the press America needs to pass more anti-Second Amendment legislation.

    "Attorney and political commentator Rogan O’Handley noted on Twitter ahead of impending left-wing calls to ban “assault” rifles and pass other anti-gun legislation that brave people with guns are what it took to stop the armed killer.

    “'You know who stopped the Nashville school shooter before they could kill even more children?' he asked. 'A good guy with a gun. We need far more of them, not fewer, if we are going to truly protect our kids. More armed guards. More armed teachers. More police on our streets.'

    "You know who stopped the Nashville school shooter before they could kill even more children?

    "A good guy with a gun."
     
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  3. Old Geezer

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    Any Americans wishing to buy a semi-automatic rifle, go buy it now. The mass media is definitely going to win on this issue. The copy-cat killing machine has been set in motion and the media is going to keep it in motion until they get their socialist way. The Left will win this fight. It's now an absolute given.

    The media is also driving the war in Ukraine. They have the momentum. The biden boyz got their money and ran (Dad ran for office with that, plus a bunch of China payoff). The war in Ukraine will go full-tilt boogie. Tick, tick, tick, ...
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    "EXCLUSIVE: Texas Coordinates With ATF to Share Income of Residents for Warrantless Monitoring"

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclu...200341.html?src_src=partner&src_cmp=ZeroHedge

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    Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Documents show this has led to at least one person being monitored by the feds without a warrant through the federal gun background check system. The Texas Workforce Commission (TWC) told The Epoch Times that it has written contracts with ATF for “sharing income information” for criminal investigations. The revelation may lead to oversight by the legislature.

    Texas state Rep. Briscoe Cain, a Republican, is “deeply troubled” about this coordination with the state’s unemployment agency and federal government.

    “My office will be looking into whether the Texas Workforce Commission is assisting the ATF in the Biden Administration’s mission to violate the constitutional rights of law-abiding Texans,” Cain told The Epoch Times after reviewing the emails obtained by Gun Owners of America (GOA) as part of its ongoing FOIA lawsuit.

    In one of the documents, an ATF agent emailed the FBI that a person suspected of straw purchasing or firearms trafficking needed to be put into the gun background check database. The agent wrote that “per TWC,” the man’s “reported wage earnings with the State of Texas do not appear to supply the financial means to afford the firearms purchased.”

    The ATF agent requested on Dec. 28, 2020, that the Texan’s gun purchases be monitored daily for 90 days. However, as previously reported, the FBI wrote to ATF that its agents could request an extension of the monitoring for as long as they wanted.

    Texas’s role in the program was uncovered in the ATF’s ninth production of documents to GOA as part of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit. The 42 pages are more heavily redacted than the previous ones given to GOA. There are seven pages of blacked-out information before the source of the income of the person in Texas is shown as TWC.

    “One would think that a pro-gun state like Texas would not be handing over gun owners’ confidential financial information to the federal government without a warrant or likely even without probable cause,” Rob Olson, an attorney for GOA, told The Epoch Times.

    Texas does not have a state income tax. Employers report wages to the TWC in order to determine their unemployment taxes, so its the state’s only source for tracking income.

    Another case in the documents shows agents in the ATF Dallas field office knew a Texas woman’s salary and used that information to get the FBI to put her into NICS [National Instant Criminal Background Check System]. It does not say her salary came from TWC, but there is one paragraph redacted.

    The agent wrote in Jan 2021 that the suspect “has a steady job however her annual salary in no way can support her current spending on firearms.” It also says that she “received multiple wire” transfers from a man in Sacramento, California.

    It appears the woman was monitored daily by the FBI for at least 180 days. None of the emails between the FBI and ATF released have shown that a request to monitor someone was denied.

    “Federal agents have no business deciding whether they think a person’s income qualifies them to buy a certain number of guns. If ATF thought it had enough for a warrant, presumably it would get one,” GOA’s Olson said.

    The FBI and ATF, which call their program NICS Monitoring Services, do not get a warrant or court order for tracking people for just “potential” violations of law. The requirement that federally licensed dealers do an instant background check through NICS on gun buyers was created in the Brady Act in 1993. The law says that the database can only be used to track people who are in the nine categories prohibited to possess guns, which includes felons, drug users, domestic abusers, and illegal aliens.

    Spokesmen for both the FBI and ATF refuse to say if the program is ongoing and how many people are currently being monitored by NICS who are not legally prohibited from buying guns.


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  5. Old Geezer

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    "Gun Sales Surge in States Adopting ‘Radical Measures’ Against 2A Rights"

    https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amend...-adopting-radical-measures-against-2a-rights/

    "A National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) report on April 2023 background checks shows gun sales surged in states where 'radical measures' against Second Amendment rights have been adopted, are about to take effect, or are awaiting outcomes of lawsuits.

    "Mark Oliva, NSSF Managing Director of Public Affairs, noted, 'April…[witnessed an] uptick of 1,369,296 FBI National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) verifications.'

    "He suggested this increase 'shows that there continues to be a steady appetite for lawful firearm ownership even as certain state governors and legislators are taking radical measures to infringe on the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens to possess firearms.' "
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  6. Old Geezer

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    I found the following response online. It came from a Quora inquiry.

    https://www.quora.com/If-gun-owners-would-fight-non-gun-owners-in-a-US-civil-war-who-would-win

    Jon Negron
    Works at Self-Employment4y

    What is the most frustrating thing non-gun-owners say?

    I have 10 of my favorite questions from non-gun owners. This list will be followed by my short answers to such questions.

    1) Q: Why do you need a gun?
    A: For the same reason that you may need to call the police one day.

    2) Q: Why do you want to kill someone?
    A: I don't, I want to make sure I have an option to stop someone from trying to kill me.

    3) Q: Why don't you get a dog?
    A: I don't want a pet for any reason.

    4) Q: Does having a gun really make you feel safe?
    A: It makes me feel the same as you feel having a fire extinguisher in your home.

    5) Q: What are you over compensating for?
    A: For the time it takes between my 911 call and the police getting to the crime scene.

    6) Q: Why do you own so many guns?
    A: Variety is the spice of life.

    7) Q: Do you really need an 'Assault Rifle'?
    A: I don't own an 'Assault Rifle', I own a Semi-Automatic Sporting Rifle.

    8) Q: Why don't you want to close the gun show loophole?
    A: Because I am waiting for you to get informed on where criminals get their guns from so you can concentrate your efforts on the actual problem.

    9) Q: Don't you care about children who die from guns?
    A: When you decide to be just as informed on the subject as I am then you will see why this shame tactic reflects poorly on you.

    10) Q: What is wrong with common sense Gun Control?
    A: Common Sense requires an expertise on a subject before dictating restrictions, please show the firearms expertise credentials of those dictating Gun Control restrictions.
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    "Journey of a gun from Eastern Europe to UK streets where deadly weapons can be hired ‘for just £100’"

    https://inews.co.uk/news/guns-hired-liverpool-olivia-pratt-korbel-gun-law-1814923

    "Journey of a gun from Eastern Europe to UK streets where deadly weapons can be hired ‘for just £100’

    "Guns can be hired for as little as £100 on the streets of the UK and it can take criminals who know where to look 'less than a day' to get hold of a deadly weapon."


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    Any machine-shop can crank-out tons of illegal firearms.






     
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  7. Old Geezer

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    Another assault truck massacre

    "Police ID suspect after SUV plowed into crowd outside Texas migrant center"

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/police-i...lowed-into-crowd-outside-texas-migrant-center

    "George Alvarez, 34, was behind the wheel of the Range Rover that struck 18 people, killing eight, outside Brownsville's Ozanam Center, a shelter for migrants and homeless people in the community, Brownsville Police Chief Felix Sauceda told reporters Monday.

    "Alvarez, whom police said has a long rap sheet, has been formally charged and arraigned on eight counts of manslaughter and 10 counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. He was already charged with reckless driving in the early stages of the investigation.

    "Alvarez ran a red light and lost control of the SUV, which flipped onto its side, before slamming into the crowd of pedestrians, Sauceda said. Officials are still investigating whether the act was intentional."

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    https://nypost.com/2023/05/08/george-alvarez-charged-with-running-over-migrants/

    “ 'It was sudden,' said Luis Herrera, a Venezuelan immigrant at the scene. 'A woman drove by and told us to leave the area. We started to leave, and in a second the driver came up and was pointing at us, cursing, calling us things like, ‘Motherf—–‘ and other things I didn’t understand.'

    “ 'When he drove up, he stepped on the gas,' Herrera said, stopping to wipe tears from his face. 'Full force. He passed over me.'

    "The migrants had arrived at the shelter just days ago, Victor Maldonado, the director of the Bishop Enrique San Pedro Ozanam Center, told CNN."
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    This Alvarez already had quite the rap sheet.

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  8. Old Geezer

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    Uh oh! We have another assault truck attack! Family Dollar Store takes it on the chin.

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    "Tennessee woman drives truck into Nashville store after fight with boyfriend, charged with attempted murder"

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/tennesse...tore-fight-boyfriend-charged-attempted-murder

    "Tasha Marie Bradley, 33, got into an argument with her boyfriend in the parking lot of the shop on Clifton Avenue before plowing the truck into the store, the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department said.

    "Bradley was 'attempting to locate the victim' when she rammed into the building and drove around the store, police said."

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    Lesson, don't be messin' with Tasha!


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  9. TMT Tactical

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    Stupid people doing stupid things. I hope she spend a lot of time in jail.
     
  10. Old Geezer

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    If the sentencing and time-served across this once-great nation is any indication, she will not serve the time she deserves.

    Aggressive arrogant people need to have their egos crushed. If this cannot be arranged, then they need to spend their lives in a concrete box with bars or sent to a penal colony where they can do work for the remainder of their lives isolated from civilized humans.
     
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  11. TexDanm

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    This is part of the problem. He does not need to spend a lot of time in prison. He needs to ROT in prison until he dies or the people he killed rise from the dead and forgive him. Violent people almost never change. The big question to me is simple...Why is his right to be free ever going to be more important than the life of his next victim??? He lost his temper and people died. Even if it wasn't premeditated he will never be trustworthy and safe to be free.

    We in America have somehow turned things upside down. Criminals violent or not seem to have more rights than the good and decent people in this country.
     
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  12. lonewolf

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    America seems to jail people for much longer than happens in the UK, some of the sentences handed down over here are so lenient they are a joke.
     
  13. Old Geezer

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    I believe in imprisoning the violent.

    Problem is that we have tens of millions of felons, many of whom could go into violence mode(who knows the percentage?).

    There is literally no place to put all of America's felons were we to lock them up for longer periods. AND, we don't know who they all are. In Amerika's major cities, over 40% of homicides go unsolved (and this is when the body is found; many more "go missing").

    33% of the black male population of the United States have felony convictions.

    https://news.uga.edu/total-us-population-with-felony-convictions/

    https://news.uga.edu/total-us-population-with-felony-convictions/
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    South Africa is running out of space to put all of their felons.

    "As prison overcrowding rate intensifies, Popcru threatens Pollsmoor strike"

    https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...ntensifies-popcru-threatens-pollsmoor-strike/

    "The national overcrowding rate in South African prisons is now 31.65%, versus the 2020/2021 rate of 23%. And there are about 18,000 prisoners serving life sentences, as opposed to just 400 in 1995."
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    "Cele: Number of South Africans in prisons indicates foreigners are not the problem"

    https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...ons-indicates-foreigners-are-not-the-problem/

    "Police minister Bheki Cele says the number of South Africans in the country’s 243 prisons indicates foreign nationals are not the problem regarding crime.

    "Cele was speaking at the SA Local Government Association’s (Salga) Council of Mayors’ conference.

    "According to a News24 report, Cele said more than 500,000 South Africans occupy the 243 prisons as opposed to 18,000 foreign nationals.

    “ 'Foreign nationals are not a problem. It is South Africans. They are in prison in large numbers, which means they do things they are not supposed to do,' he said.

    "Cele said prisons were overpopulated by 33.3%. He said the country needs to go beyond policing.

    "He said over the past two years justice minister Ronald Lamola requested for 33,000 prisoners to be released on parole.

    “ 'SA cannot be a prison,' said Cele.

    "More than 6,000 people murdered in SA between April and June

    "Police minister Bheki Cele released the April to June 2022 crime states on Friday. He said 6,424 people were murdered, an increase of 664 compared with the same period last year. However, sexual offences dropped by 800."
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    Old Gzr:

    I have absolutely no idea of what to do. Officials in South Africa do not know what to do.

    In both the USSA and South Africa, we are going to witness a catastrophic meltdown of civilization.

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    What can preppers do? Yes, prepare. Prepper core motto: "Beans, Bullets, and Band Aids"

    As we see a sea of economic migrants (without skills, housing, jobs, ...) slamming into our country simultaneous with a dying dollar and cities devolving into chaos, the Bullets part of our strategies takes on more importance. These migrants WILL NOT fit into our urban areas, by the way. Even now as Western economies still "function", these people are going to have no place to go. When it hits the fan, none of us will know who, nor how many, could be attempting to camp on our property.
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    "Alarming Surge In Gun Shop Robberies As Democrats Fail To Enforce Law And Order "

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political...obberies-democrats-fail-enforce-law-and-order

    "Progressive district attorneys' failure to enforce law and order has resulted in a surge of smash-and-grab thefts across American cities run by Democrats. The rise in thefts, particularly at retail stores, has become a significant problem for the retail industry, amounting to $100 billion in shrinkage in 2022. Even more concerning is that organized criminal gangs now target gun stores instead of clothing, jewelry, and pharmacy stores.

    "Diving into Bloomberg data, the story count for 'gun shop robbery' in all US news media stories soared to a record high in the fourth quarter of 2022, with data going back to 2013. The surge even surpassed levels during the early virus pandemic.

    "On April 30, two gun stores, one just outside the Capital Beltway in Fairfax County, Virginia, and another one in Rockville, Maryland, about an hour north, were targeted by what some in the firearm industry have described as criminal organized gangs.

    "When accountability for bad behavior is removed from society, it emboldens criminals. And now these criminals are robbing gun stores and arming themselves with guns while the Biden administration is adamant about disarming law-abiding citizens."
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  15. TexDanm

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    I've known a couple of anti-gun people over the years and once they let it be known I DISTANCED myself from them. For one thing if something bad happens I figure that they will cower or run or just expect me or someone else to defend them. If they are afraid of having a gun then I have no use for them in my personal space.

    Depending on the cops is like choosing a mortician for your family doctor. They will show up if you call them...after you have been robbed or beaten half to death or DEAD. They will take statements. That doesn't do you a bit of good if you are in danger when you called.

    I think that this attitude is a regional sort. I grew up with guns in the house though they were not as prevalent as they are in mine. There are guns in every room and in my shop as well. I have sold guns and repaired guns professionally in the past. When Carter was Elected I bailed. Anti gun presidents lead to gestapo type government actions on people in the gun business. My family means too much to me to expose them to that sort of crap.

    My partner wasn't smart and stayed in. 4 months after I bailed they kicked his front door at 3AM and dragged him and his wife out of bed and totally TERRORIZED his 4 year old daughter when they dragged her into the front room. They had an "anonymous" tip that he was selling guns off the books. They took EVERY gun in the house and any cash money they could find. In the end he proved that every gun that they had taken was on the books and legally his and he got all but one back. they stole that one and even though it was on their paper work they denied having it.

    Jim hired a lawyer so that WHEN a cop dropped that one missing gun on someone that he had shot illegally, that they couldn't come back on him. They never said that they "lost" it but they had to admit, based on their own paper work, that they had taken it. They also never paid for it either.

    My short run in the gun business totally destroyed what little faith or trust that I had in cops.
     
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  16. Old Geezer

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    Cutting to the chase, young black men are killing-off their own. They are doing so with stolen firearms. America's "gun deaths" are due to this black-on-black violence. Mass shootings are the product of the mainstream media's mass reporting of mass shootings = an ongoing stream of copy-cat catastrophes. The MSM being communist, the loss of human life means nothing to them. Castrating and internationalizing America is the end-goal.

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    https://theblogginghounds.com/2023/05/18/putin-tells-u-s-citizens-do-not-give-up-your-guns/

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    "The right to bare arms to defend one’s self and possessions against a deadly force has been entrenched in American culture and protected by the U.S. Constitution since it’s creation in 1791.

    "However, the U.S. government seem determined to take that right away from its citizens, amid Russia doing the exact opposite. President Putin wants to give Russian citizens the freedom to chose whether or not they arm themselves.

    This will probably come as a total shock to most of my Western readers, but at one point, Russia was one of the most heavily armed societies on earth. This was, of course, when we were free under the Tsar. Weapons, from swords and spears to pistols, rifles and shotguns were everywhere, common items.

    People carried them concealed, they carried them holstered. Fighting knives were a prominent part of many traditional attires and those little tubes criss crossing on the costumes of Cossacks and various Caucasian peoples? Well those are bullet holders for rifles.

    The Soviets promised to leave them all alone if they did not intervene. They did not and for that were asked afterwards to come register themselves and their weapons: where they were promptly shot. Peter Fonda: Obama is a ‘F – king Traitor’.

    Of course being savages, murderers and liars does not mean being stupid and the Reds learned from their Civil War experience. One of the first things they did was to disarm the population.

    From that point, mass repression, mass arrests, mass deportations, mass murder, mass starvation were all a safe game for the powers that were. The worst they had to fear was a pitchfork in the guts or a knife in the back or the occasional hunting rifle. Not much for soldiers.

    To this day, with the Soviet Union now dead 21 years, with a whole generation born and raised to adulthood without the SU, we are still denied our basic and traditional rights to self defense.

    Why? We are told that everyone would just start shooting each other and crime would be everywhere….but criminals are still armed and still murdering and to often, especially in the far regions, those criminals wear the uniforms of the police.

    The fact that everyone would start shooting is also laughable when statistics are examined.

    While President Putin pushes through reforms, the local authorities, especially in our vast hinterland, do not feel they need to act like they work for the people. They do as they please, a tyrannical class who knows they have absolutely nothing to fear from a relatively unarmed population. This in turn breeds not respect but absolute contempt and often enough, criminal abuse.

    For those of us fighting to protect traditional rights from the World Gang Association , the US 2nd Amendment is a rare light in an ever darkening room.

    Governments will use the excuse of trying to protect the people from maniacs and crime, but are in reality, it is the bureaucrats protecting their power and position. In all cases where guns are banned, gun crime continues and often increases.

    As for maniacs, be it nuts with cars (NYC, Chapel Hill NC), swords (Japan), knives (China) or home made bombs (everywhere), insane people strike. They throw acid (Pakistan, UK), they throw fire bombs (France), they attack.

    What is worse, is, that the best way to stop a maniac is not psychology or jail or “talking to them”, it is a bullet in the head, that is why they are a maniac, because they are incapable of living in reality or stopping themselves.

    The excuse that people will start shooting each other is also plain and silly. So it is our politicians saying that our society is full of incapable adolescents who can never be trusted? Then, please explain how we can trust them or the police, who themselves grew up and came from the same culture?


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  18. Old Geezer

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    Car Crime

    Another vehicle attack on innocent pedestrians. When will the madness stop! Cars are already registered, so let's now confiscate them before more mass-attacks are committed by these evil machines.

    "New York City Driver Plows into Sidewalk, Killing One and Injuring Four"

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/202...lows-into-sidewalk-killing-one-injuring-four/

    "A 26-year-old man was charged with manslaughter, vehicular manslaughter, assault, and driving while intoxicated after plowing into five people, killing one of them, at a New York City intersection on Sunday.

    "Mahbub Ali drove his Hyundai Sonata onto the sidewalk at East 21st Street and Third Avenue in Gramercy, NBC New York reported. The incident occurred at approximately 7:30 p.m.

    "Ali first struck a 23-year-old man who was crossing the sidewalk, according to police. Ali then veered right and hit an 18-year-old man on an e-bike. The vehicle then drove up onto the sidewalk, hitting a 21-year-old man and 26-year-old woman. Ali then crashed into the back of a parked Chevy.

    "The 23-year-old was pronounced dead at Bellevue Hospital."

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    "At least 16 dead after truck crashes into crowd in Turkey "


    https://english.alarabiya.net/News/...dead-after-truck-crashes-into-crowd-in-Turkey

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    "Eight dead in Texas after car drives into crowd outside migrant center"

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/07/texas-car-crash-near-migrant-center-brownsville

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  19. lonewolf

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    crime is crime, manslaughter is manslaughter, dosent matter if it is a gun or a vehicle, someone is still dead.
    going by the name of at least one of the killers it looks like it was an Islamic terrorist attack.
     
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  20. Old Geezer

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    Sweden, the land of strict gun control. Add to this, the reality that the nations surrounding Sweden also have strict gun control laws.


    "After the Horse has Bolted: Sweden Vows to Crack Down as Crime Soars"


    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...ted-sweden-vows-to-crack-down-as-crime-soars/

    "Criminal gangs have become a growing problem in Sweden, a country of 10 million that has experienced an increase in drive-by shootings, bombings and grenade attacks. Most of the violence occurs in Sweden´s three largest cities: Stockholm, Goteborg and Malmo.

    “Lethal firearm violence has increased dramatically and Sweden is in an extraordinarily serious situation,” said Gunnar Strommer, who added that an official investigation set to begin later this year would look into ways to convict more criminals. The probe should be completed by September 2024, he said."

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    "Busting the Durable Myth That U.S. Self-Defense Law Uniquely Fails to Protect Human Life"


    "Oxford University Comparative Law Forum"

    https://ouclf.law.ox.ac.uk/busting-...nse-law-uniquely-fails-to-protect-human-life/

    "As this brief journey through U.S. and foreign self-defense law has hopefully illustrated, common claims about U.S. self-defense law’s “exceptionalism” and “inhumanity” crumble under closer scrutiny. One possible explanation for this wholesale misreading of the law by those who should know better is that, in addition to an overreliance on uncritically accepted received wisdom, there is a pervasive tendency to conflate access to deadly force in the form of firearms (via what some consider excessively lax gun law) with the legal authorization of the same. Perhaps this commingling can be traced to an overreliance on ideological priors.[60]

    "But whatever the explanation for the persistent misunderstandings, the reality is that U.S. self-defense law is very much within the mainstream of self-defense law around the globe and, in crucial respects, is far more restrictive than that of many overseas counterparts.

    "In the final analysis, impactful misconceptions about U.S. self-defense law distract us from having a more fully informed debate about the appropriate role of, and justification for, self-defense in a modern, democratic nation. Correcting such fallacies, then, is a vital first step toward a more balanced and promising conversation about the extent to which we should reform our laws governing the use of deadly defensive force in a pluralistic society like ours."
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    Sweden has migrant gangs that are causing death and mayhem -- making Swedish crime statistics look horrible.. The firearms they use are illegally possessed.

    The United States has urban gangs, mainly composed of black youth without fathers, who commit a FAR disproportionate number of murders and armed robberies -- making U.S. crime statistics look horrible. The firearms they use are illegally possessed.

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    there are many ways of killing a human being that dont involve a gun, see the recent atrocities in Nottingham and France.
     
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    Knives don't get that many dead.

    Burning down buildings full of people at night (apartment buildings and nightclubs) and driving big trucks into crowds is much more effective.

    The Happy Land fire of 1990 killed 87 people. That was some seriously effective mass murder by arsonist Julio González.

    A terrorist using a truck killed 84 in Nice, France. Untold hundreds were seriously injured.
     
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    Currently, psycho killers know that they have to use a semi-automatic rifle to kill due to the mainstream media's promotion of copy-cat shootings. To get on the news, kill people with a semi-auto and you will get tens of millions of dollars worth of national, even international, air time. Psychos do not differentiate between fame and infamy. They just want to get their name out there -- and as widely so as possible. All of the Leftist media will love you if you go on a murderous wilding using an AR-15 or an AK-47. You will help make their civilian disarmament agenda come true.
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    Commie Kamala sez:

    "Kamala Harris: It’s Time To Arrest Gun Makers for ALL Gun-Related Crimes"


    https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/kamala-harris-its-time-to-arrest-gun-makers-for-all-gun-related-crimes/

    "... The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) shields gun manufacturers from lawsuits over firearms that are misused after being legally made and legally sold.

    "The repeal of the PLCAA was an oft-stated goal of President Joe Biden’s even as he campaigned for the White House.

    "For example, on February 24, 2020, ten months before the presidential election, Biden alluded to the PLCAA then referenced gun manufacturers and said, 'I’m going to take you down.'

    "Since taking office in January 2021, Biden has consistently pushed to open up gun manufacturers to lawsuits. Harris made the same push in her Wednesday tweet.

    "Harris claimed gun makers have “immunity,” which is something Biden has claimed as well. But gun makers do not have 'immunity,' the PLCAA does not protect them in the event that a faulty firearm causes injury. It simply protects them from frivolous lawsuits."

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    The Left wants to blame everyone except those who are unable to control their animal instincts.
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    U.S. Judges sometimes enforce gun laws (felonies). Sometimes they do not. If you are a minority, then the gun charges get kicked before trial. If you are white and are without a better than average legal team, the charge will likely stick and you could be in some very serious trouble -- a state's prosecutor could pass your charge on to the Feds. A federal judge could send you a federal penitentiary for a decade and hey, the fed pens have space, i.e. you will do all or near all of your time (a friend of my dad's pulled federal time in their Atlanta prison, Treasury got him) . If you are the son of a Democratic president, the charge may stay (because the info has hit the web), but you will not go to jail. You'll plea to something or other that gets you no jail time and poof, you're walking the streets. The media will also cover-up any pay-offs you've received from enemy communist countries (China) and countries wanting arms deals (Ukraine).

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    Among initial charges against Hunter Biden:

    "Hunter Biden charged with gun felony and tax misdemeanors"


    https://www.axios.com/2023/06/20/hunter-biden-charged-gun-taxes-plea-deal

    "The Justice Department charged that Hunter possessed a Colt Cobra revolver in Delaware in October 2018 while 'knowing that he was an unlawful user of and addicted to a controlled substance.'

    " The maximum penalty for the gun charge is 10 years in jail and a fine of $250,000."

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    Hunter's plea deal:

    "Conservatives Slam DOJ’s ‘Sweetheart Plea Deal’ for Hunter Biden: ‘Two-Tiered Justice System’ "

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/202...l-for-hunter-biden-two-tiered-justice-system/

    Begin quote:

    Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) shared the same sentiment, tweeting that “if anyone without the Biden last name engaged in even a fraction of Hunter’s misconduct, they’d face real consequences.”

    Let's be clear: if anyone without the Biden last name engaged in even a fraction of Hunter's misconduct, they'd face real consequences.

    — Tom Cotton (@TomCottonAR) June 20, 2023


    Biden's son got a sweetheart deal for laundering money, accepting millions in bribes, committing gun crimes, and evading taxes & child support.

    Yet DOJ targeted a pro-life pastor w/ a 25-person SWAT team and serious charges.

    AG Garland is a disgrace.

    — Tom Cotton (@TomCottonAR) June 20, 2023

    GOP lawmakers like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Sens. Josh Hawley (R-MO) and Rick Scott (R-FL) pointed to what they see as disparities in how Biden’s DOJ handled this case versus how it is pursuing charges against Trump, the leading GOP presidential candidate.

    Hunter Biden pleading guilty to a gun charge and misdemeanor tax charges with no jail time is a stunt to make him look like he is just cooperating with the DOJ.

    Meanwhile the pathetic and weaponized DOJ who protects their puppet President and refuses to prosecute Joe Biden and…

    — Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (@RepMTG) June 20, 2023


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    Here's a photo of a Colt Cobra:

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    What the Republicans are saying is sooooooooooooooo true. You pull Treasury violations, BATF violations, international crap and you WILL get buried in a Federal penitentiary. Maybe if you are some congressman's son, you may be able to cut a deal. In this case, it's Democratic president's boy. Biden did (& currently doing, arms deal paybacks) more than Trump ever did, but the courts and the Democratic Party-owned media are out to crucify the former Republican president. This is all part of the lead-up to America's break-up.
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    Socialist governments in Canada and the U.S. are now wanting to ban lead ammunition.

    "Biden admin takes aim at hunters in latest regulation: 'Preventing Americans from hunting'"

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bi...-regulation-preventing-americans-from-hunting

    "The Biden administration announced Thursday that it is moving ahead with prohibitions on the type of equipment hunters are allowed to use on federal refuges, a move strongly opposed by sportsmen groups.

    "The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) released its 2023-2024 hunting and fishing rule — an annual plan laying out regulations for the upcoming hunting season — banning cost-effective lead ammunition and fishing tackle across eight national wildlife refuges by 2026. Such an action has been supported by eco groups, but opposed by hunters, who argue that it could serve as a backdoor attack on hunting broadly."

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    "Will the Trudeau Liberals ban lead ammunition?"


    https://justiceforgunowners.ca/will-trudeau-liberals-ban-lead-ammunition/

    "Not content to ban scary guns, the Trudeau Liberals are now considering banning lead ammunition! Both lead shot and lead-core ammunition.

    "That’s right. Banning lead ammo. It’s for the children, of course.

    "Get ready to ditch your shotshells and your hunting ammunition.

    "Rumours are rampant that Environment Canada will recommend banning the use of lead shot everywhere – including trap ranges – as well as lead-core ammunition."
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    lead weights for fishing have been banned since 2015 in the UK, banning lead in ammunition (for environmental reasons) is currently under consultation.
     
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    For decades in the US, lead shot has been banned for waterfowl hunting. Lead shot lying on the bottom of ponds can be accidentally ingested by geese and ducks.

    Lead in bullets and shot is in metallic form, inorganic. Lead can leach out of shot and become carbonized, organic. This organic lead can be toxic -- thus dangerous to ducks and geese. For food, they pull-up grasses from the bottoms of ponds.

    Therefore when shooting over ponds and other water-covered areas, one should use non-lead shot. Over time, the shotgun loads from innumerable waterfowl hunters builds up in these ponds. This indeed is bad. Hunting in fields and forests deposits some lead, but it is minute and not consumed by much of any degree whatsoever by animals. At shooting ranges, the lead is captured by the backstop / earthen berm. That can be dug out. In high school, we'd dig-out the lead chunks that would form in the sand beneath our steel deflector panels (45 degree angle sent the deflected bullets into a huge sand pit). We went through thousands upon thousands of rounds (over time, tens of thousands of rounds = huge chunks of lead). That was unsafe, but nobody cared back then -- certainly not the Army. "Funny fact" = this was indoors and we daily breathed that leaded atmosphere. Later at university, I learned why I got those bad headaches back then -- lead toxicity.
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    The deep state run BATF (Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, for our visitors from other countries) finds ways to side-step Congress. Constitutional government stands in their way, so they lie and cheat. In the minds of those power brokers in the deep state, citizens must be dis-empowered. The deep state promotes vote fraud mechanisms and also wants to weaponize government agencies such as the BATF, FBI, and IRS (Internal Revenue Service; the "tax man"; recently getting 80K new agents and millions of rounds of ammunition).

    "Biden's ATF Sued For 'Zero Tolerance' Policy Towards Gun Dealers"


    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/atf-sued-zero-tolerance-policy-towards-gun-dealers

    Begin quote

    Submitted by Gun Owners of America,

    Earlier this year, Gun Owners of America leaked internal ATF documents, highlighting an unprecedented rate of Federal Firearms Licenses revoked by the Biden administration's ATF.

    In fact, since the enactment of ATF's Zero Tolerance policy, there has been a 200% increase in FFL revocations. This is due to the agency's new interpretation of the word "willful."

    Congress presented a problem for ATF, as virtually all gun dealers are well-intentioned, law-abiding people who always attempt to comply with the law.

    Therefore, to claim "willfulness" to violate the law by people who almost uniformly try to follow the law -- ATF had to get creative.

    Now, ATF claims that a single manual, potentially given to an FFL decades ago, proves that the FFL knew the law and thus "willfully" decided to violate it.

    Whereas prior to the adoption of the Zero Tolerance policy, ATF would give a warning conference to firearms dealers who made mistakes on forms. Now, according to the new policy, the default action is to revoke the dealer's license.

    In other words, under the Biden Administration, ATF has changed its focus from regulating the gun industry to destroying it by whatever means possible -- eliminating access to firearms by putting as many gun dealers as possible out of business.


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    When Vladimir Lenin was seeking power, he told the people that their ownership of firearms was a tremendously positive thing.

    "Only an armed people can be the real bulwark of popular liberty."

    Vladimir Lenin

    But after he came into power, he wanted anyone who opposed him to be murdered by his communist government.


    "Vladimir Lenin Quotes About Guns"


    https://www.azquotes.com/author/8716-Vladimir_Lenin/tag/gun

    "Why should freedom of speech and freedom of press be allowed? Why should a government which is doing what it believes to be right allow itself to be criticized? It would not allow opposition by lethal weapons. Ideas are much more fatal things than guns. Why should any man be allowed to buy a printing press and disseminate pernicious opinions calculated to embarrass the government?"

    Vladimir Lenin

    "One man with a gun can control 100 without one."

    Vladimir Lenin

    "You must act with all energy. Mass searches. Execution for concealing arms."

    Vladimir Lenin


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    The Left wants conservatives to die.

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    "French rioting demonstrates how gun control laws are failing law-abiding citizens"

    https://collapse.news/2023-07-13-french-rioting-gun-control-laws-fail-citizens.html

    "As rioters, some of them armed, take to the streets in France and destroy and loot property, French citizens are standing by helplessly – thanks to their country’s gun control laws.

    "In France, gun laws are significantly stricter than those seen in the U.S. Not only can French citizens not bear arms or carry firearms in public for purposes of self-defense, but they can only keep firearms at home if they pass a background check, register their gun, and adhere to limits on the numbers and types of guns and ammunition they may possess.

    "In short, law-abiding citizens do not have guns to protect themselves, but criminals do have them. This is one reason protesters can continue to start fires, burn cars, and shoot out police cameras.

    "Video footage has shown criminals shooting up into the air with semiautomatic guns, putting everyone nearby in danger. Other footage showed protestors marching down streets in France in broad daylight toting belt-fed machine guns as well as handguns. These incidents have been taking place in major cities like Paris and Lyon.

    "The Military Arms Twitter account @MAC_Arms tweeted: 'The anti-gun laws in France are working fabulously. The criminals have them and the law abiding citizens don’t. Huh. Who would have thought this might be the outcome? It’s almost like such laws enable criminality and keep lawful people unable to defend themselves.' "

     
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    American civilians own more small arms than does the military or the police. American civilians own more "assault rifles" than the U.S. Military or the militaries of other nations.

    Confiscate that! :D

    Within the most liberal states in the United States there has been, at most, only a 10% compliance with "assault rifle" registration laws and "assault rifle" turn-in mandates. Americans simply do NOT obey Big Brother mandates. Too, due to anger levels and the fragile U.S. dollar, it looks like America will divide. There will assuredly be enormous amounts of violence in the streets. Already has been, yet what we've seen will be multiplied by ten thousand.


     
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    Denmark, specifically the city of Copenhagen, just had another shooting. This time it was in a "drug alley"-type of "neighborhood". And, here's a shocker -- it was a drug gang hit! How rare! :rolleyes:

    Drug runners don't just run drugs. Black market trade routes bring in drugs, guns, Middle Eastern rugs, colored gemstones, "blood diamonds", ... if something is in demand, then there will be a supply -- especially for those who fly below the radar. In liberal countries, the police are forbidden from "taking out the trash", i.e. wiping-out gangs. Actually, in liberal countries, law abiding citizens are not even allowed to defend themselves against felonious assault. Seems the Left cares far more about the rights of criminals than the law-abiding people.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-gun-control

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation

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    In many Western nations, you as a responsible citizen, an adult, one who can take care of one's self and family, are not allowed by poison-government to own a firearm to defend your family. Meanwhile, drug gangs and other felons simply buy weapons on the black market.

    [​IMG]

    "1 killed, 4 wounded in shooting in Copenhagen's Christiania neighborhood, police in Denmark say"

    https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...openhagens-christiania-neighborhood-102590718

    "COPENHAGEN, Denmark -- A shooting Saturday in a Copenhagen neighborhood known for its counterculture vibe and flourishing hashish trade left a 30-year-old man dead and four other people inured, Danish police said.

    "Two masked gunmen opened fire inside a building in the Christiania neighborhood, Copenhagen police spokesman Poul Kjeldsen told Danish media.

    "Kjeldsen said the shooting was believed to be linked to criminal gangs, Denmark’s TV2 reported.

    "He said one of those injured was in critical but stable condition; the others had minor injuries.

    "Police were still searching for the gunmen late Saturday."
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    "1 Killed, 4 Injured in Shooting in Copenhagen’s Anarchist Neighbourhood"

    https://www.breitbart.com/t/assets/html/disqus-21.html?udca=https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/08/27/1-killed-4-injured-in-copenhagen-shooting/|24822212|1 Killed, 4 Injured in Shooting in Copenhagen’s Anarchist Neighbourhood|

    Article's comments section:

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    "Alberta won’t support Canada’s efforts to seize prohibited weapons, minister says"


    "The Alberta government is taking steps to oppose Canada's firearm buyback program which includes potential seizure of thousands of assault-style weapons.

    "But Alberta Justice Minister Tyler Shandro says the government is 'fearmongering' by labelling guns as 'assault-style,' which he said is a move to scare Canadians unfamiliar with firearms. "




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    Old Gzr: Phase 1 of the Trudeau regime's semi-automatic rifle ban is a buy-back program. Phase 2 (maybe later) is to actually go out, locate via gun registration records semi-automatic rifles, and confiscate these firearms from peaceable citizens ("citizens"?; should I say "underlings" ?). Next come handguns. Phase one is to ban the sales. Later, confiscation may come. Confiscation is made possible by registration.

    I've been reading that the Trudeau regime may now be backing off on confiscation. This could be due to the high probability of bloodshed. Who knows? What they are talking about now is banning future sales and confiscating semi-autos that are in the sales pipeline -- this is hurting gun shops due to their investments being stolen by the government.


    White folk aren't the problem in the first place.

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    Translation: "Gun violence" is actually "gang violence". Communists want the masses disarmed, thus communists use terms like "gun violence" and "teenagers". "Teenagers" actually means black youth.

     
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    "Man ‘in Combat Clothing’ Shoots, Kills, and Starts Fires at Rotterdam Hospital and Residential"

    https://mysurvivalforum.com/threads/demonic-insanity-in-gun-control-are-they-for-real.11980/page-6

    "At least two people have died of gunshot wounds following an attack in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, after a gunman in 'combat clothing' roamed between buildings launching what may have been targeted shootings, and setting fires.

    "After starting a fire at the property, the gunman is believed to have proceeded to have killed a 46-year-old man, at a nearby hospital where he was a member of staff. The gunman also attempted to start a fire at the teaching hospital, and it is reported these may have been started by 'Molotov cocktail'.

    "The motivation for the attack is not yet known but police are examining the suspect’s relationship with the victims, and given he is reportedly a mature student at the university where the attack took place, whether there may have been an academic issue underlining the slayings. ... '."

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    "Rotterdam hospital was warned of shooting suspect’s ‘psychotic behaviour’ "

    "Prosecutors had written to hospital this year about medical student’s actions and images found on phone"

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...as-warned-about-pyschotic-shooter-say-reports

    "Rotterdam hospital was warned of shooting suspect’s ‘psychotic behaviour’

    "Prosecutors had written to hospital this year about medical student’s actions and images found on phone

    "Dutch authorities had rung alarm bells about the 'psychotic behaviour' of a medical student suspected of a shooting and arson rampage through Rotterdam in which three people were killed, his hospital boss said on Friday.

    "The Public Prosecution Service had written earlier in the year to the Erasmus university hospital about the student suspected of shooting dead his neighbour, her 14-year-old daughter, and a teacher at the hospital.

    "The man, named locally as Fouad L, displayed 'worrying' and 'psychotic' behaviour, including lying half-naked on a pile of leaves in his garden and laughing maniacally, prosecutors told the university in an email confirmed to be authentic by the public broadcaster NOS.

    "The process of setting up a psychological assessment was ongoing, so the student had not yet received the medical diploma enabling him to practise medicine."
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    Old Geezer: Think maybe it's time to go back to the "bad old days" when demented, hallucinating people were put in psychiatric hospitals?!

    Currently, local libraries are turning into psych wards. We've made friends with librarians in all of the towns in which we have lived. The phenomenon of libraries as being gathering places for people suffering from psychoses is pandemic across America. Even here in our small town, at least two or three clinically psychotic people are always in or on the grounds of the library. According to those working there, the police have to be called at least once a month to take into custody those who begin acting out with aggression or due to their out of control behavior. Two months ago, the librarians had to call police on a guy inside the library with a walking stick trying to beat the "snakes off of himself". It took the police a few minutes to arrive, so it was "interesting" for the staff to have to deal with that particular screamer. Sometimes the psych cases get aggressive with the librarians and patrons. All of these horrifically ill people end up right back out on the streets

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    "How Libraries Became Refuges for People With Mental Illness"

    https://slate.com/technology/2022/09/libraries-mental-health-support.html

    "Work in a library, I want to tell them, and you’ll learn what weird is.

    "To be clear: I enjoy the weird. And I am proud that public libraries double as unofficial care centers. In 2015, the Washington Post quoted a librarian who estimated that about half of their regular patrons were either mentally ill or experiencing homelessness. The same article speculated that 'the transition from inpatient to outpatient psychiatric treatment that began in the 1960s, including the closure of state-run psychiatric hospitals, may contribute to the prevalence of mental illness among the homeless.' In nearly every U.S. state, people with serious mental illness are more likely to be jailed than sent to a hospital.

    "A library is a more welcoming environment than either of those. Undoubtedly, this is what attracts many people who suffer from mental illness. Sociologist Eric Klinenberg calls libraries 'social infrastructure,' emphasizing that, in addition to books and materials, they offer welcoming spaces and human interaction. The Ferguson Municipal Public Library became a 'safe haven' amid the riots after the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown, staying open when other businesses had closed, to act as a community anchor. After the 2016 shooting of five police officers, the Dallas Public Library provided on-site counselors to assist city residents.

    "A number of libraries now employ social workers or mental health professionals to step in when needed. Others have partnered with mental health organizations to train librarians in crisis response. In 2017, staff at the San Diego Public Library completed the Mental Health First Aid course developed by the National Council on Behavioral Health. One of the staff, Joe Miesner, tapped into that training when he deescalated a situation with an distressed patron. 'I just spent time listening to her,' Miesner told the American Psychological Association, 'and eventually she gathered her belongings and walked away quietly.' Some librarians have even saved lives. Three weeks after being trained to administer the opioid antidote naloxone, Matt Pfisterer, a New York librarian, revived a patron who had overdosed.

    "It isn’t just patrons who need support. Librarians do as well. Our jobs are more stressful than it would appear. We are constantly asked to do more with less, and there is never enough time or staff—or funding. Patrons can be challenging in about a million ways. And there is the ever-present threat of closure. I once worked in the library of a law school that went out of business after losing its accreditation."

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    Today, a grandson told me about one Philip Luty of England. Didn't know about the Liberty activist, so now I'm learning.

    "Expedient Homemade Firearms"

    https://firearmwiki.com/wiki/Expedient_Homemade_Firearms

    "Expendient Homemade Firearms is a series of two books written and released by English self-taught gun maker and gun rights activist P.A. Luty, primarily in protest of the United Kingdom's sweeping gun control legislation of the 1990's.

    "Philip Luty took a tough philosophical approach to the individual right to own firearms. Another issue was the way that firearms are actually classified/legislated in the United Kingdom. For example, in the United States, 'functional' pressure-bearing parts of the gun (eg barrel, bolt assemly and so on), are considered 'firearms'. Rather, the receiver of the gun, or in layman's terms, "the frame on which the gun is built" is what is considered the gun. This is not the case in the United Kingdom, where instead the receiver of a gun is essentially unlegislated. Rather, the pressure-bearing components like the barrel are what their laws consider "the gun".

    "Luty realized something. That to truly ban firearms, common items like pipes, sheet metal and so on, would all need to be banned. Unless this were to occur, the only thing needed for anyone to construct a firearm, would be to have basic knowledge on their function. As a result, he authored his two volumes of 'Expedient Homemade Firearms, and constructed his own 9mm submachine gun, which is now commonly known as the 'Luty SMG'. Philip Luty was later arrested, both for constructing an illegal firearm, as well as for publishing his guide on how to do it, which is illegal in the U.K. due to a lack of freedom of speech. Along with Luty's protesting of firearm regulations, his Expedient Homemade Firearms books were just as much a protest against restrictions on speech in the United Kingdom. "
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    Oppressive governments want zero resistance from the people over whom they rule. Taxpayers are the cows the elitists milk daily. Can't have them armed! Besides, these people might hurt themselves due to their inferiority. Thus, the UK rulers did everything in their power to rape Philip Luty's soul. Cancer brought him down before the UK government got finished raping his words and existence. The UK did manage to destroy the lives his family. Another victory for god government.

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    "The Unshackled Englishman"




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    "The Luty 9mm - MadLad SMG"




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    In the second half of the following video, a very, very noble man is interviewed (he's a Mayan gun-maker). He lives in poverty, but his heart is pure gold. His interview is a must-watch.

    "Turning a TRUCK into WEAPONS with the MAYANS"



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    Oh by the by, the Palestinian terrorist cells in England and Europe, get whatever weapons they need, come hell or high water. The peasants the terrorists wish to kill are unarmed making their job easy-peasy. These sorts of terrorists go for the unarmed, because they lack courage and love to spread fear among the masses.

    During this past week's Palestinian attack on Israeli civilians, they went after young concert-goers knowing that they would likely not be armed. Many Israeli civilians ARE armed and will return fire.

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    Commie Kamala is coming to rape true Americans of their 2nd Amendment rights.

    This is yet another precursor to America's second civil war.

    "VP Kamala Harris Becomes Biden's 'Gun Czar' As War On Second Amendment Goes In Overdrive"

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/v...-gun-czar-war-second-amendment-goes-overdrive

    "VP Harris will be in charge of enforcing current laws and collaborating with local officials to push anti-gun measures at the state level.

    "So what credentials does VP Harris possess to take on the role of America's first-ever 'Gun Czar'? Arguably, none, suggesting she could primarily act as a figurehead. Meanwhile, the White House might stealthily lean on anti-gun organizations, like Giffords and Everytown, funded by billionaires who want to disarm law-abiding citizens, to push anti-gun policy via the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention.

    "But again, Harris' qualifications don't matter because the Biden administration has only created the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention to appease billionaire-funded anti-gun groups before the election season. Quid pro quo? "

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    If this faux administration begins the registration of gun owners and then begins confiscating firearms, tens of thousands here in America will die in the conflicts caused by such.

    If the biden White House wants the current cold civil war to go hot, then this is one way to start it.

    Me, I know Americans, especially Southerners and Mid-Westerners. These cultures aren't Europeans nor Canadians. We don't compromise. Too, it seems that Americans enjoy fighting (they are the first volunteers for wars). Americans do not follow unjust laws.

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    Even if Big Brother could disarm every civilian, criminals and terrorists will still have access to weapons, even military weapons. Governments don't care that much if a few thousand civilians get killed just so long as there are enough cows and steers over whom to rule. Castration settles-down opposition forces.

    "Belgium Hunts Shooter of Swedes as Brussels Put on Maximum Alert"


    https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...er-of-swedes-as-brussels-put-on-maximum-alert

    "BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Belgium was searching on Tuesday for a gunman who killed two Swedish citizens and wounded a third person on Monday in Brussels in what Prime Minister Alexander De Croo called a brutal terrorist attack.

    "The country has raised the security alert status of its capital city to the highest level, with increased police presence, particularly for Swedish people and institutions, and warned the public to be extra vigilant and avoid unnecessary travel.

    "A man, who identified himself as a member of the Islamic State, claimed responsibility in a video posted online.

    "Belgian Justice Minister Vincent Van Quickenborne told the news conference the suspect was a 45-year-old Tunisian man who sought asylum in Belgium in November 2019 and was known to police over people smuggling and illegal residence in Belgium.

    "Police are still searching for him."

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    "Two Swedes Killed in Brussels Shooting"


    https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/two-swedes-killed-in-brussels-shooting/

    "Two Swedish nationals were shot dead in Brussels late Monday by a suspect who remains at large, in an attack the Belgian prime minister described as “terrorism”.

    "The gunman fled on a scooter and Belgium’s security observatory raised its terror alert to level four or “very serious”—the highest—for Brussels, and level three nationally.

    "Several Belgian media named the suspect as Abdesalem L., aged 45 of Tunisian origin who lived in Brussels.

    "A video of a man speaking Arabic and claiming responsibility for the shooting has been circulating on social media.

    "In a video shared online by Flemish newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws, the shooter is seen with an automatic weapon on his shoulder, fleeing on a scooter."

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    Ban scooters!!!

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    If a regime cannot get sufficient votes to disarm civilians, then it can always destroy ammunition plants ... and start a stack of foreign wars.

    "150k square-foot ammunition plant in Nebraska mysteriously EXPLODES – is this another planned assault on vital U.S. infrastructure?"

    https://collapse.news/2023-10-18-ammunition-plant-nebraska-mysteriously-explodes-gun-control.html

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    As all eyes are on the Israel-Palestine conflict, another mysterious factory explosion occurred, this time at an ammunition plant in Nebraska.

    The Hornady Manufacturing plant located near Grand Island blew up on October 13, killing one woman and injuring two men. The explosion occurred in the company’s chemical compound building, located at 8350 W. Old Potash Highway.

    The facility in question is 150,000 square feet in size, having opened in 2018 on land that formerly housed the Cornhusker Army Ammunition Plant.

    The timing of the explosion is curious, especially since the Biden regime has been calling for stricter ammunition laws in the United States. Just last year, it was suspected that the crooks in D.C. were plotting new regulations on the sale of ammunition to civilians.

    Apparently, the government only wants itself to have bullets. And do not forget: without bullets, the Second Amendment is of no effect, rendering firearms useless chunks of metal and plastic.

    The Washington Examiner reported in June 2022 that the Biden regime had allegedly approached Winchester Ammunition about said planned restrictions on public ammo sales.

    A spokesman from the National Shooting Sports Foundation told the Examiner that “the government is considering restricting the manufacturing and commercial sale of legal ammunition produced at the Lake City, Mo., facility” in question – a claim the White House later denied, by the way.

    Currently, Winchester is allowed to sell surplus ammo on the civilian market once the military has had its fill. This is the policy the Biden regime supposedly wants to nullify as it now represents about 30 percent of all 5.56 nm and .223 caliber ammunition sales.

    Concerning the Hornady incident, a growing number of people thinks it could have been an attack by the very same government that just last year was exposed for wanting to ban the types of public ammo sales that occur because of its operations.

    One woman on X wrote that Hornady is now offline for ammunition, and that Winchester has “announced no civilian ammo” from here on out.

    “Our guy [sic] store thinks things are going to get problematic!” she further wrote. “There’s a whisper that lake city just suspended all civilian ammo also. And we were told they know something we don’t and if you can, go buy ammo and go buy g*ns this is not a drill!”

    In other words, stock up now if you are concerned about the availability of ammo in the U.S. moving forward and aim to keep your own stockpile just in case.


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    https://wltreport.com/2023/10/15/was-this-planed-ammo-manufacturer-plant-explosion-leaves/

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    Here in the USSA, authorities do not confine paranoid schizophrenics to psychiatric hospitals, thus we get mass shootings.

    When anti-civilian-firearms-ownership legislation is wanted by the deep-state Leftists, POOF! a mass shooting happens. What a "coincidence".

    "Active shooter situation in Maine, hospital says 'mass casualty, mass shooter' event"

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/active-s...sidents-told-to-stay-inside-with-doors-locked

    "On Wednesday night, the Lewiston Police Department identified Robert R. Card, of Bowdoin, Maine, as a person of interest. According to law enforcement, Card is a firearms' instructor.

    "In a bulletin released by the Maine Information and Analysis Center, Card is believed to be in the Army Reserve stationed out of Saco, Maine.

    "According to the bulletin, citing law enforcement, Card recently reported mental health issues, which included hearing voices and threats to shoot up the National Guard base in Maine.

    "The person of interest was allegedly committed to a mental health facility for two weeks during the summer of 2023.

    "Authorities told residents in Lewiston to 'shelter in place' and to 'stay inside your home with the doors locked.'

    " 'Police are currently searching for Robert R. Card of Bowdoin. Card is considered armed and dangerous,' Maine State Police said in a Facebook post. 'If seen people should not approach Card or make contact with him. The shelter in place order stands in Lewiston.' "

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    https://www.voanews.com/a/firearms-...nterest-in-maine-shooting-police/7327138.html

    "The man identified as a person of interest in a mass killing in Maine is a firearms instructor trained by the military and was recently committed to a mental health facility, according to a state police bulletin.

    "The bulletin says the man, Robert Card, had been trained as a firearms instructor at a U.S. Army Reserve training facility in Maine. The document says Card had been committed to a mental health facility for two weeks in the summer of 2023. It did not provide specific details about his treatment or condition.

    "The document also said Card had reported hearing voices and had threatened to carry out a shooting at the military training base in Saco, Maine."
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    A psych patient was selected by the USSR to shoot the Pope. This "wet job" was arranged through Bulgarian operatives.

    https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90-00552R000505120132-4.pdf

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    Here's a witness of the "grassy knoll" shooter who put the kill-shot through JFK's skull. Oswald also fired; however, he only had his Marksmanship badge (not Sharpshooter and certainly not Expert -- that takes one whole hell of a lot of practice; this I deeply know; qualified Expert age 17, then yrs later the Army lowered their standards for shooting medals; have nerve damage from improper, too tight, rifle sling usage over a 3-yr period of competition shooting; the rich kids had leather shooting jackets and all we had were Army-issue cloth shooting jackets = ulnar nerve damage).

    J.F. Kennedy was a Democrat. I'm a conservative; however, I could have voted for JFK because he was pro-Constitution. Also, he didn't want us to get us into foreign wars. Cuba, that Island is only 90 miles off our Florida coast. Vietnam is on the other freeking side of the planet! Not wanting war got JFK killed. Eisenhower warned us all about the military industrial complex. L.B. Johnson was VERY quick to take over the presidency ... on the aircraft transporting JFK's body. Two or three days before the Friday of JFK's murder, Johnson got off the phone screaming and cursing. He then told his mistress that, "Those Kennedy boys won't mess with me after Friday!!!" He was right. JFK getting assassinated that Friday scared the bejesus out his mistress. She asked Johnson about it and he said "Those Houston boys did it." Note that Kennedy was killed in Dallas.


    https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/select-committee-report/part-1b.html

    "At the time of the reconstruction in August 1978, the committee was extremely conscious of the significance of Barger's preliminary work, realizing, as it did, that his analysis indicated that there possibly were too many shots, spaced too closely together, 5 for Lee Harvey Oswald to have fired all of them, and that one of the shots came from" the grassy knoll, not the Texas School Book Depository.

    "The committee's awareness that it might have evidence that Oswald was not a lone assassin affected the manner in which it conducted the subsequent phase of the investigation. For example, it was deemed judicious to seek an independent review of Barger's analysis before proceeding with the acoustical reconstruction. So, in July 1978, the committee contacted the Acoustical Society of America to solicit recommendations for persons qualified to review the BBN analysis and the proposed Dallas reconstruction. The society recommended a number of individuals, and the committee selected Prof. Mark Weiss of Queens College of the City University of New York and his research associate, Ernest Aschkenasy. Professor Weiss had worked on numerous acoustical projects. He had served, for example, on the panel of technical experts appointed by Judge John J. Sirica to examine the White House tape recordings in conjunction with the Watergate grand jury investigation. Aschkenasy had specialized in developing computer programs for analyzing large volumes of acoustical data.

    "Weiss and Aschkenasy reviewed Barger's analysis and conclusions and concurred with them. In addition, they agreed that the acoustical reconstruction was necessary, (20) and they approved Barger's plan for conducting it."





     
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  40. lonewolf

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    I do not think Britain has any mental hospitals anymore, the ones near me were sold off for housing years ago. its all "care in the community" now only that dosent work either.
    there are prison hospitals for the criminally insane (Broadmoor) but thats part of the prison system.
     
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    For schizophrenics, it's hospitalization or strict / weekly / biweekly monitoring along with blood-work to assure that this patient group is maintaining their medication regimen. But this isn't done anymore, thus the massive homeless population, thus people walking down city sidewalks screaming at their demons and local library restrooms having feces smeared on their floors. Note also that somebody has to pay for their cigarettes. Never deny dementia patients their cigarettes. If they say they need a cigarette, they're not kidding. You want them to have theirs cigs also -- really calms them down.
     
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    Whilst on the topic of psych cases who've never been medicated or aren't taking their meds, just yesterday:

    "Police fatally shoot man wielding sledgehammer in Round Lake Beach"

    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...ing-sledgehammer-in-round-lake-beach/3260750/

    "Police officers in north suburban Round Lake Beach fatally shot a man wielding a sledgehammer at them after he also beat two women with the weapon.

    "Officers responded about 3:15 p.m. Wednesday to a home in the 2000 block of Redwood Drive, where they found two female victims in a garage with blunt force injuries to their faces and heads, the Lake County sheriff’s office said. Both women were hospitalized with 'serious injuries.'

    "The man, whose age wasn’t released, came to the front door armed with a sledgehammer when officers approached the home. He refused to disarm himself and lunged at the officers, at which time one officer deployed a Taser, police said.

    "The man lunged at the officers three more times near the front doorstep before he raised the sledgehammer and again moved toward an officer. 'At least one of the officers' then shot the man, police said."

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    Old Gzr: Were I a cop and Sparky the Wonder Idiot comes at me with any hammer, Sparky better be right with his Lord. OK, so maybe I'm in a good mood, I might tell him to drop the hammer. If he doesn't do so, then I'm dropping Sparky with my handgun. Homey doesn't play this game; no no no. Me, I'm not going to the hospital. I'm not going to attempt to taser nor attempt to subdue Sparky. Sparky is on his way out of his life adventure. I'm "medicating" him with lead at high velocity.

    By the by, tasers often do not work on psych cases who've gone full-bore aggressive, nor do they work on heavily doped-up aggressors. These folk pull the taser leads out of their chest and continue their attack. Or, they may not even know that they've been tased or sprayed with bear spray. Bat-sh## crazies become super-human strong and near invulnerable to any form of intervention. In hospital, it can take four or five orderlies to subdue these folk if their blood medication levels go too low.

    If for no other reason, the severely mentally ill need to be hospitalized for their own safety. Without proper medication, psychosis causes its sufferers to live in a perpetual hell. On the streets, these patients continually get mugged, die of hypothermia during winters, mentally ill women get raped, on and on, horror upon horror ...

    The statistics I've read put the number of psych cases killed by police at circa 1,000 per year -- this in the U.S. . And I sure am NOT blaming the police! They have families and like everybody else want to go home at night uninjured. University professors being the idiots they are often blame the cops. Let them ride with the police for a month or three! Let them attempt to subdue these psychotic aggressors. New Psychiatric residents working the psych wards get lessons in aggression whether they are ready for it or not. Getting one's face busted while attempting to aid the orderlies gives one a "welcome to life" wake-up call.
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    Dropping the ball when it comes to checking on the welfare of the mentally ill can result in horrific tragedy.

    One does not have to be a physician, psychiatrist, or psychologist to know that when somebody starts losing their mental faculties, they need to be seen by medical professionals. This latest copy-cat shooter had sought (on the order from his superior officer) and received two weeks of hospitalization at a military hospital after "hearing voices" in his head. The community for months maybe years avoided this individual and his family due to their bizarre behaviors. It was said that their house was maintained like some compound.

    This fellow even tried to by a silencer (you have to get a special Federal license) at two gun shops. They turned him down due to his admitting having been involuntarily sent to a mental hospital -- i.e. he didn't even get to the part where the FBI would have checked him out. Involuntary commitment SHOULD go onto police records for an individual, but this ball is also being dropped. You're a cop. You get called to a residence where a known psych case is living. Wouldn't you like to know about this situation?! This is not just any police call. Should no violence have occurred so far, wouldn't you want a specially-trained senior officer to also be there with you before engaging in any interactions?! Holy crap!!!!!

    Yet, nothing was done. Don't blame the gun.

    "Army said Maine shooter should not have gun, requested welfare check"


    https://abcnews.go.com/US/army-maine-shooter-gun-requested-welfare-check/story?id=104496055

    "Before last week's mass shooting in Maine that left 18 dead and 13 wounded, the U.S. Army says suspect Robert Card's commander was told he should not have access to an Army-issued weapon, and that it asked the local sheriff’s office to perform a welfare check.

    "In a statement to ABC News on Monday, Lt. Col. Ruth Castro, a U.S. Army spokesperson, said that following his mental health hospitalization and evaluation in mid-July, Card's commander was told he "should not have a weapon, handle ammunition, and not participate in live fire activity."

    "The Army also determined he should not be put in deployable status "due to concerns over his well-being," according to the statement.

    "Card’s superior officers informed garrison staff at the training site about his behavior on July 17, the defense official said.

    " 'Out of concern for his safety, the unit requested that law enforcement be contacted,' the official said.

    "New York State Police officers responded and transported Card to Keller Army Community Hospital at the U.S. Military Academy for medical evaluation, the official said.

    "Card allegedly threatened other soldiers with violence and was 'command directed' to go to the hospital for the evaluation, according to a source briefed and with direct knowledge of the incident."

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    "Maine gunman displayed glaring signals and threatening, violent behavior leading up to shooting"


    https://abc7ny.com/maine-mass-shooting-lewiston-shooter/13994741/

    "LEWISTON, Maine -- Months ahead of his bloody rampage in Lewiston last week, suspected Maine gunman Robert Card had displayed glaring signals that his mental health was on a drastic decline - signals which his immediate family members knew about, were concerned by - and explicitly warned law enforcement that something needed to be done, according to documents obtained by ABC News via records requests.

    "As far back as January, Card's mental health had already started to decline, his family said. By May it was getting even worse, and they were concerned for his well-being, and that he had access to firearms.

    "Despite some follow-up between local police and the Army Reserves regarding Card's apparent paranoia, verbalized threats to shoot people and recurrent aggressive behavior in recent months, the documents do not indicate that Card was ever taken into protective custody or judged mentally incompetent by a medical professional which is required to trigger Maine's yellow flag law."

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    Wow!!!! Good thing he was not a nuclear worker....like me!!!!!

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    It may be a dark way of looking at the phenomenon of copy-cat mass-murderers, but that they use firearms might be a lesser evil than were they to actually think about how to kill large numbers of people.

    Arsonists get the gold medal for mayhem when it comes to body-counts. Large volume venues, tall office buildings, and multi-story apartment buildings would be scenes of unimaginable catastrophe were these nut-cases good in the selection of their vengeance devices.

    I'm dumbfounded that terrorists haven't attacked major football stadiums when jammed with fans.

    What with the flood of illegals across our borders, I'm expecting some major terrorist attacks. This is especially true now what with the Palestine vs. Israel war going hot.

    The NAFTA deal with Mexico means that mortars and rockets could be trucked across the border hidden within legal cargo on 18-wheelers. A mortar or rocket attack on a huge sporting event would result in a huge casualty count. The explosives wouldn't be the big killer -- it would be the stampede of people. Ammonium nitrate is a super-common fertilizer. Fertilizer contaminates agricultural products shipped into America; so, how could aggy products and nitrogenous-based explosives be differentiated?

    A sniffer dog would have to be especially trained in this. This is a subject about which I understand only peripherally. I've yet to study this topic. I know that dogs have super olfactory abilities and a dog brain, a simple dog's brain, is far more sophisticated than any super-computer. I hope such training exists.

    Open borders = open doors to terrorists.
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    I'm with Lonewolf on this...


    For the most part I have for years now ...stayed away from events with big groups of people in attendance..

    A lot of this is just conditioning from working the back shifts for so long...I have thus been mostly sheltered from events with big crowds as I am in a reverse environment from most people out here...

    less traffic...and fewer people around...


    That is......until..............

    I was transferred to day shift....now I am a day walker and it is a difficult adaptation in some regards.....particuarly traffic and crowds.

    I particularly detest standing in long lines....including traffic lines..


    But ...we shall have to adapt as best we can..

    I can't believe I am a day walker now!!!!!!


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    I absolutely loathe being in a crowd. I hate standing in line to check-out at a store.

    Today, I drove to another gas station due to a line at the place where I normally fill up. In small town America, there's a whole lot less traffic and crowds.

    When traveling on an interstate, I get online and look for traffic congestion. I'll take side roads to avoid that crap. Heavy traffic is dangerous, but even if it were not dangerous, I'd still avoid that. I'm just totally averse to being one within a herd.

    Taking the wife to a restaurant, if there's a line, then we're gone. We'll find a place to eat where we can just sit down, order, and be off to ourselves.

    I don't hate people. When I find a good soul, we'll talk. Most folk however are hollow or at least shallow. Can't deal with that.
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    I have never liked crowds, we go monthly supermarket shopping mid week when its quiet-early so that there are few other people in the store and maybe one in front at the check out, I gave up trying to make conversation with strangers they are too stupid to waste my time. we gave up eating out some time ago because of the din of others talking-couldnt hear what the other was saying over the noise. I dont hate people I just cant be bothered with them. since Covid I have become more of a recluse-wife says so.
     
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    by Olde Geezer...

    Verily agree.....particularly at the grocery store. I have been known to leave my shopping cart full and just walk out....when the service is slow or even stupid.

    No patience for this kind of thing.

    It is driven home to me ...now that I am on day shift with the rest of the herd...how protected from this madness I was for so many years...on the back shifts.

    I was safe...I was on base!!!


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    When working actual industry, not industrial control eng. Quality Control, I loved 2nd shift. Genetically, I'm a night person. Too, I'm not much interested in the hoi polloi. Common is common. Nothing there to mine for precious nor semi-precious spiritual crystals. Who cares about inclusions and minor defects?! God doesn't, then why should I?! Even pretty rocks catch my attention.

    Those who would "right the wrongs", who would correct intrinsic defects are on a doomed mission. Even the very Christ taught His followers to shun the lost.

    Irrespective of the proposed law, one cannot change the damned when they themselves seek darkness. Free will is free will.

    We the moral, we the armed, will resist those who chose darkness over Light. We will stop their aggressions. This, now and in those days when society collapses. It is a Greater Will we follow.
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