Disaster Relief Or Resiliency ?

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  1. Pragmatist

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    https://www.triplepundit.com/story/...nge-disaster-response-relief-resiliency/85161


    Good afternoon all,

    Per ... Article focused to companies and do-gooder types.

    I do not believe corporate social responsibility (CSR) is always good for business. Danielle hasn't closed many export sales.

    Why must / should a company develop funding for a municipality ? IF Beverly Hills or River Oaks is too expensive, don't live there.

    Some matters are for the PUBLIC SECTOR. This means realistic and visible taxes and user fees. Perhaps the cities and counties are too small of units for proper governing.
     
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  2. Brownbear

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    Interesting point Pragmatist, in a similar vein, I have always wondered why when there are humanitarian disasters that sending food etc seems to be the main answer. I would think that, maybe, identifying vulnerable communities and then helping them to build programmes to prevent disasters getting "out of hand" might be more helpful in the long run.
     
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  3. lonewolf

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    the disaster relief, like the food distribution to affected areas, is all run by charities, once business is affected by a downturn all this funding is reduced or even stops, so will the disaster relief.
     
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  4. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Brownbear,

    I believe the relatively recent addition of the concept "resiliency" to the preparedness phrase is the slow and low-profile answer.

    In just about everything we're discussing, the common denominator is always politics. Vulnurable communities really means people who cannot survive a major emergency and the political subdivision, like a city, is not economically viable. They cannot repair critical infrastructure such as roads, damaged health care clinics, gasoline stations, etc.

    So many want to live in dangerous areas and want others to pay for their pleasant living. Plus, it is the rescue teams and related emergency responders who are taxed to the hilt to pay for the defacto socialism.
     
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    I was thinking more about those who live on dangerous areas but have no choice - fro example New Orleans, as we have seen, is clearly subject to potential flooding, but I guess we would not suggest the populace move elsewhere. On a global scale many people live in what you and I would term dangerous areas and are unable to relocate, often due to poverty. It's poverty that often puts them there.

    I favour the idea of putting some practices into place before a potential crisis. A good example of this is the charity WaterAid, who help poor communities to put in place clean water systems to help avoid outbreaks of water borne infection (obviously this relies on the input of money from wealthier places).
     
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  6. lonewolf

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    most people live where they do for one of 3 reasons, jobs, family, finance.
    most don't even think of the potential pitfalls or problems when relocating its just for one of the above reasons.
     
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  7. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Lone Wolf,

    Here, the word "finance" referring to personal finance means loads of public subsidies. I personally consider these personal subsidies the equivalent of welfare. "Alms for the poor" is now tax the hades out of the middle class so others can have a comfortable life in pleasant surroundings.
     
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  8. lonewolf

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    it is true many receive welfare but many do not.
    I knew several people in the past who were just over the threshold for receiving welfare(known here as "benefits").
    in any case the benefits system over here has gone crazy, it can take 12 weeks for someone to receive their first payment.
     
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    I think that most of the time people would resist any effort to "help" then by changing almost anything. There doesn't seem to be any intel-egence tied to where people live. If there was then when Katrina flooded New Orleans the government would have done something about the stupidity of people having homes in holes 12 to 14 feet below sea level in a coastal city. They could have let casinos build in those holes with parking on the bottom two floors and moved the people to safer homes.

    Instead, they helped them rebuild in that same death trap. The people are just TSTL and the government is criminally negligent in helping them commit suicide. they proved in Katrina that they don't have enough sense to evacuate so the next time there will be another several thousand dead.

    Feed them clothe them and offer short term assistance because that is about all that they will accept. Any effort at making long term changes just doesn't work and is almost a total waste of time and effort.
     
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  10. lonewolf

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    same here, people live next to rivers, flood plains and canals and then are surprised when their homes get flooded, one or two might move elsewhere but most do not, if it floods once dosent that prove it could happen again?
    we often drive past places that have a flood sign with levels in feet on it, wife says the fact it is there proves that it can flood there, they don't put flood signs where it dosent flood.
    I guess you just cant convince some people.
    that is why post collapse the survival rate will not be high especially in the UK.
     
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