Do You Believe Extraterrestrial Life Exists?

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  1. watcherchris

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    Sonofliberty....

    While musing on my reply to your post...I decided to just go ahead and ask...

    Are you familiar with the Fallen and the many guises under which this is hidden/concealed...and or promoted??? Without most people even being aware it is going on??? Including UFOs.

    Thanks,
    Watcherchris
     
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  2. Sonofliberty

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    I won't claim to be familiar with all of their guises, but I am familiar with many of them. Whether persons, organizations, possible cryptids, or even "ghosts" and impersonations of "angels" like Micheal.
     
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  3. The Innkeeper

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    The odds of life evolving anywhere are infinitesimally low. Are there life forms on other plants? From my Christian world view, I don’t believe in evolution so that isn’t a factor for me. The Bible is silent on the subject but that doesn’t mean other life isn’t out there. I more worried about the apparent low level of intelligence on this little blue orb than life elsewhere
     
  4. watcherchris

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    LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!

    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelte
     
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  5. watcherchris

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    MOHO.....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohorovičić_discontinuity


    See....."The Ever War" series of lectures....by Conrad Jarrell .....if you can even find them anywhere. They have been removed from the WWW.


    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelte.


    Post Script....

    I found them. They were at one time removed from the web.

    Someone has now re posted them back on line.

    Here...

    http://moreofgodplease.com/free-downloads/

    72 lectures on "The Ever War." There is also materials on UFOs and other topics of interest to people who can think further than the NFL, NASCAR, And the Kardashians.

    The Ever War is the war which began in the Garden of Eden for the souls of men and continues unto today.
     
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  6. Keith H.

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    Yes Aliens exist. I have seen one of their craft up close. I refer you to my earlier post:
    "Whilst it is true that we can't know what they look like, I do know that they are able to construct craft that have reached/visited earth, so we are not just talking organisms here, we are talking beings with the ability to design silent running craft that can travel great distances, from what I have seen probably travel at light speed, & possibly they know how to fold time. We do not have this knowledge or expertise.
    If you are interested, they can be seen in the night sky away from the city lights with the naked eye, you do not need a telescope or binoculars, although binoculars can help if you are watching them do maneuvers".
    Keith.
     
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  7. The Innkeeper

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    I in no way question your experience, although I have spent many nights in areas with no light pollution and have not had your experience. I remain unconvinced as to your explanation, but believe you saw what you tell us you saw.
     
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  8. Morgan101

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    Given the vastness of outer space, and what little we know about it, it is hard for me to believe that our little speck is the only one with intelligent life. We are not a grain of sand on the beach in the overall scheme of things. Maybe I am a sucker for the Ancient Alien theories, but it seems highly unlikely that primitive peoples could have built the massive ancient stone structures without some help, particularly the ones with cut stone. There are ancient stone structures that we would have a difficult time making today with our modern technology. To think that they were made with stone hammers, and bronze chisels is absurd.

    Yes, I believe in extraterrestrial life.
     
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  9. watcherchris

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    I think this is called...a counterfeit...and is of Ishmael...bondage..

    My non Ishmael .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  10. Morgan101

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    O.K. here is a little fuel for the " Yes I believe " fire.

     
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  11. Sonofliberty

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    Here is some more information
     
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  12. Blitz

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    Having witnessed a UFO up close with two neighbours in the mid '70's I most definitely believe in alien life forms.

    To this day, we meet up and check our sanity. "Did we really see that UFO?" We remember it vividly as if it was yesterday.

    Interestingly, when we individually submitted the necessary forms to the RAF, we received a reply some weeks later, informing us we had just imagined it ... hahahahaha!
     
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  13. TexDanm

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    I "imagined" one too.
     
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  14. Old Geezer

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    My belief is tenuous. I tend not to believe that the alien life forms -- who have to be several orders of magnitude more intelligent than us -- would come here themselves. I see them sending unoccupied mega-high-tech vehicles and monitoring equipment here. Were the latter proved, I would in no way be shocked.

    If these superior life forms are here, then the reason would have to be very important to them -- really, really important.

    Our planet has many heavy metals and rare metals. Some rare metals are on the ocean floor -- one needn't mine them out of the earth, these metals are right there in and on the sand'n'mud.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rare-e...ocean-floor-60-minutes-60-minutes-2019-11-17/

    Human high-tech equipment requires these metals for manufacturing. Could be that the aliens need these also (?). And hey, they are right there for the picking. Many/most planets around our universe are gaseous or liquid. For all we humans know, our planet may be some rich resource for extraterrestrials. They couldn't give less of a sh## about paying us. They are likely in the "humans will evolve on their own," mode = don't interact with humans unless you have to. Maybe they've got some Jane Goodall

    There are now numerous records of Navy pilots witnessing enormous manufactured flying vehicles following intelligent patterns, then disappearing at unimaginable velocities. A friend of mine was air traffic monitoring in the far north. He saw an object come out of our air space and disappear into space. It made one then another blip on his radar, then poof! gone. This velocity he said was not EVEN possible, even by ballistic missiles. Were it coming into our atmosphere, then it would have been a meteorite. This thing was powered.

    Short story: I don't think they will attack us unless our actions interfere with their operations. I do not think they will help us, either. Could they stop us from having a full-throw nuclear war? Yes ... IF such a war would disrupt their operations or in case their scientists decided to let us live so as to observe our future evolution. Maybe we are some semi-interesting zoo to them.

    I don't think they care about us. Really makes me want to care about them. If they know how to cure human cancer and do not share this information with us, then to hell with them.
     
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  15. TexDanm

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    One of the most puzzling things associated with the UFO phenomena has to do with the low-level sightings where the UFO suddenly takes off at an amazing speed. Even more amazing is how something can move at speeds way above match SILENTLY. I remember the old days. My family came from a place that was under the flight line of a huge SAC base. When those bases scrambled they hit Mach as soon as they could and it was LOUD!!!! The walls would shake and until you got used to it it would scare the crap out of you. There is NO known way that something can travel in the atmosphere at speeds several times Mach and not create a notable sonic boom!
     
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    1. Old Geezer
      Hadn't thought of this. Such a ship would have to open a "corridor"/opening in the atmosphere, then fly mach whatever(?) through that "corridor". This flight-path/opening would serve two purposes, 1) provide silence / depress signature (atmosphere is not disturbed; can you imagine the contrails such velocities would generate in at atmosphere!; 2) the Earth's atmosphere being pushed aside / having a tunnel formed through it would provide no resistance to the aircraft becoming spacecraft.
       
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  16. Blitz

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    Totally agree. That's what we experienced, once the aircraft took off at amazing speed, joined up with three others and off they went. No noise, nothing. It was amazing.

    There were reports (I think in the UK) a few weeks ago about people thinking a bomb had gone off. But no, it was just the RAF scrambling because some airliner didn't respond or some such thing. So, yes, they make more noise than a field of cicadas having a piss up.
     
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    1. Old Geezer
      The sailors who work the flight deck of aircraft carriers often get hearing loss irrespective of hearing protection. Such sailors have ear plugs, ear muffs inside their helmets, and the helmet itself is noise-dampening -- still, 140 Decibels get to their eardrums. The threshold of pain is often listed as 120 dB. Sound threshold of pain is in the 95-105 dB range for people who have no hearing loss. People who "have gotten used to loud sounds" (translation, have hearing loss) is past 120 dB. The hearing sense is outrageously non-linear. Even people with nasty levels of hearing loss experience "recruitment" -- when something gets loud enough, their hearing kicks in (you don't EVEN want me to go into the anatomy and physiology of this phenomenon).

      https://hearinglosshelp.com/blog/recruitment-from-hearing-loss-explained/
      There are "inner hair cells" and "outer hair cells" -- they are outrageously different. Physicians don't remember this stuff.
       
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  17. F22 Simpilot

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    The engines that UFO aircraft may use bend or somehow use gravity waves. This is the future of propulsion. Fire is old hat going all the way back the Pleistocene epoch. You think the government doesn't have this technology? They probably do.

    Never seen a UFO myself other than what I see in the media, on YouTube, etc. Always wanted to.
     
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  18. Blitz

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    Interesting that you should mention that.

    Although I was 100% sure the craft my friends and I witnessed were alien, one of my friends (who is an extremely sceptical, logical, rational and a mechanical engineer now) didn't immediately presume what we had seen was "alien". He wouldn't dismiss the concept that perhaps it was some government body testing some technology.

    When we discussed it in later years (I'm talking 20+), he was still of the view that it wasn't necessarily "alien".
     
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  19. Old Geezer

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    The aliens use laws of physics that are several orders of magnitude beyond what we can understand. With our pathetic brains we have to postulate theories such as String Theory to even begin to predict what is going on in the strange phenomenon we have discovered that can't be happening ... based on the dimensions we are able to perceive. String theory is currently at eleven dimensions. We humans perceive four, X, Y, Z, and Time.

    https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/501926/how-many-dimensions-are-there

    Aliens simply operate within those other dimensions that they can not only understand, but also perceive. "They" are nothing like us. I have been known to talk to my dogs. I do not however have long and involved conversations with dogs ... unless I've been drinking too much. No self-respecting alien is going to sit down and talk to me. The alien could however have the decency to take me onboard his mother-ship and have their equivalent of veterinarians fix all the broken sh## in my decrepit old body. They could be taking our planet's mineral resources, so fixing old geezers like myself seems only fair. Biologic barter.
     
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  20. F22 Simpilot

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    I would agree. Have we been visited from other worlds in our absolute gigantic universe? Perhaps. But does the government have some straight up Star Wars crap? You betcha. In fact, if I were in a Vegas gambling mood I'd put some serious coin on that bet. Besides, when SEAL team 6 went to sack Bin Laden's ass they used stealth helicopters. Now I never once heard or even seen a stealth helicopter until that one just so happened to crash in Bin Laden's backyard and the damn traitor Pakistanis decided to give the Chinese a lookie-loo of the chaired remains.

    I love all aspects of the paranormal, UFO and aliens. I watched the entire X-Files series, listen to Coast to Coast AM on occasion and everything in between. I'm also a flight simulator game pilot that has amassed over 4,000 hours thus far. And when I was simming in FS2004 I built Area-51 in the game and tried to match everything as closely as I could right down to the Beechcraft 1900 that flew to Nut Tree, CA and the 737-600 Janet's that go to and fro. I also had U2's there the A-12, SR-71, etc. It was a project of mine I never completed since I know use FSX and soon the new simulator which looks absolutely phenomenal. Just YouTube search Flight Simulator as they call it now.

    Take a gander. LOL No, that's not my real name. Why would I ever give the Internet, especially Google my real name?





    Sorry for the primitive video. I think I used Windows Movie Maker back then. The multiple outer marker beacons you hear are an error due to my use of two runways to make one long runway. I read it's the longest runway in the world.
     
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  21. F22 Simpilot

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    I customized the cockpit. LOL The default was too mundane lacking features. Loved my TAWS!
     
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  22. F22 Simpilot

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    The headquarters. LOL! And no, those are beakers and boiling flasks on the shelf for decoration only. I'm not a meth head. HAHAHA :D





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  23. F22 Simpilot

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    Remember when you found a skeleton of a squirrel in your backyard? Me either, and I have yet to see what's in the hangers at Area-51.

    In summery, they exist, but can't prove it.
     
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  24. Blitz

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    Not sure how many (if any) posters have seen the series "Ancient Aliens". Here's a snippet for you F22:

     
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  27. F22 Simpilot

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    One thing about the History Chanel anymore, it's all about pawn shops and ancient aliens. Turn the channel a notch to the Discovery Channel and you see naked people and Alaskan fisherman.

    I used to watch The History Channel every day damn near all day and loved watching History's Mysteries and Modern Marvels to name just two shows. They also had a spy type show from cold war era stuff and spy gadgetry. I can't remember the name of the show now, but Keith Melton was on there a lot.

    While that segment there about an ancient flying craft wrote down in books is interesting, one has to consider the types of load it can carry and still fly and be aerodynamically sound. There's an awful lot of technological engineering that goes into designing and building an airplane let alone a jet and the millions of lines of code for the computers. I know this because in Flight Simulator when you want to design a new aircraft you use a CAD-like program and everything has to be aerodynamically sound as well as the accompanying .AIR file and the aircraft.cfg file. Otherwise the Sim will simulate the thing the wrong way and not fly right.

    One thing I wished FSX was capable of was vector thrust. It's something simply not simmed. There's no code in the game for it. If there was I'd have true thrust vectoring in my F-22 I like to fly all over with. I've read there's a sort of hack way to achieve it though. It was done to make a V-22 Osprey in the Sim.
     
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