Do You See The Spiritual Side Of Nature?

Some of us here on this forum may be religious, while others might not. However, when I use the term "spiritual" I'm not exactly referring to it in the religious sense. I'm speaking more in terms of the essence, the fundamental being of nature and your connection to it.

Some people walk into a forest and think to themselves, "Great, a bunch of trees. What of it?" However, others like myself enter a forest and find themselves at peace with the world. You feel at home among the trees, and you feel any burdens on your spirit are lifted. It's always a refreshing experience for me when I'm feeling stressed. Nature is the perfect medicine.

How do you feel about nature and spending time in forests? Do you feel that you have a deeper connection with it or simply admire it from a distance?

 

Yes, I do. I feel close to God in nature. This is one of the things that I think most people find comforting when they go out. It is peaceful and quiet to be in nature and it is easier to feel in harmony with your surroundings.

 

Very much so. My spiritual mentor taught me that energy is present all around us. The less a substance has been manipulated by men the more energy it contains, it's more "pure". In that sense nature, itself it's a big energy pool. Hence why some people spend time in nature and find themselves in contact with a higher being. I plan on starting a blog about that very soon.

 

It is complicated, sometimes I see it but I feel it is a chain with no end, a cycle, it is the calm before the storm a place that before our eyes is very calm and silent, but as we go deeper and deeper we discover its true face and everything Beautiful and terrible that can be.

 

Nature has equal significance as human beings. This is because we are all products of creation.This means that everything originated from the Creator,and thus, everything is connected.This explains why a simple walk in the outdoors filled with trees and fresh air can easily relieve one from stress and the many pressures of life.

 

Nature can be benign. Nature can be horrific.

Humans evolved out of a world of pure, inmittigated savagery. The vestigal savagery that lies within us must be overcome with intellect and discipline. Without self control, humans revert back into something hideous and unimaginable. Out-of-control humans must be locked away or executed so that society is not put at risk.

The fairy tale of the noble beast is to this day perpetuated by weak people and those who's agenda is to keep people weak. The Big Lie goes something like this, "We humans are born innocent and it is an evil environment that creates monsters; thus, we must be understanding and caring. The felon is a victim of society."

Truth is that we humans must have unwavering external discipline so that we might internalize that discipline. Society comes apart at the seams when humans are without internal discipline.

Males in particular can become monsters due to the presence of testosterone in their bodies. This hormone changes many organ systems, muscles, bones, on and on; however, testosterone also effects the mind. It promotes aggressive behaviors. Therefore young males must be raised in an environment where dominant older males control their behavior and teach them self-control. This is not an option. This is an absolute requirement. I was once a young male and without men keeping me where I belonged, behavior-wise, I could have turned out mean. I've known innumerable adolescent males and have been the father to them. My wife and I chaperoned dozens upon dozens of adolescents. We know.

As to from where it is we came: The chimpanzee is a cousin-species of ours. They are so cute! They are placid by nature, right?! Wrong! They are dangerous. Of course they can be non-violent, going on about their day to day chores; they can play, they can be lazy just like us. Unsettling it is that we are not so far removed. Know that things can go decidedly sideways with chimps ... with us. People do not want to face this reality, but we must face hominid behavior if we are to become our best. We must annihilate the beast within us and rise above our vestigial biologic selves.

What follows are examples of the extreme violence of which chimpanzees are capable. Know that the following information is unpleasant to read and very hard to watch. Those who get queezy when seeing violence and gore may not wish to venture any further in this post.

I present this information to demonstrate that the Walt Disney view of nature is a horrific falsification of the truth. We must understand our lower nature so that we can purge our inner selves of it and greater society of it.

Warning! What follows is brutal. It is raw truth, which is to say, difficult to witness and absorb.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/chimpanzees-murder-cannibalism-senegal

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29237276



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A "domesticated" chimp:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_(chimpanzee)

"Travis (October 21, 1995 – February 16, 2009) was a male common chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes) who, in February 2009, mauled a friend of his owner in Stamford, Connecticut, blinding her, severing several body parts and lacerating her face. He was shot dead when he tried to attack a police officer. "

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Charla+Nash+travis&atb=v140-1&iax=images&ia=images

https://cavemancircus.com/2019/07/09/life-isnt-all-sunshine-and-rainbows-13/

"Travis the chimp 911 call. Travis, a chimp just reaching adolescence attacked and severely maimed Charla Nash, a friend of the chimp’s owner (the chimp’s owner is the one on the 911 call). Travis attacked her hands, face, and genitals."

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"Why do chimpanzees bite off the genitals of the one they are attacking?"

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-chimpanzees-bite-off-the-genitals-of-the-one-they-are-attacking?share=1

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https://www.foxnews.com/science/chimps-killing-people-in-uganda

"Chimps are killing people in Uganda: 'It broke off the arm... opened the stomach and removed the kidneys'"
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Been working on my basic human nature.....should SHTF or TEOTWAWKI go down...

Agree with Olde Geezer...nature can be strikingly beautiful.....but don't turn your back on nature....as she can be a very viscous and cruel, even savage taskmaster....

I've seen beautiful nature at work down here on the waterfront and up close ...for many many years..particularly in the middle of the night.....how cruel and savage nature can be to the unprepared or untrained..unschooled on reality.


Have obtained three of these basic nature tools.....to augment my human nature...

Amazon.com : Cold Steel 90WVBA Hunting Axes, Polished, One Size : Sports & Outdoors


Keep two of them here and one of them is now upstate with a prepper group with whom I am in contact.


Have also picked up a spring steel English Broadsword to augment the Viking Axe.


Also one of these to go with my .308 Ishapore Enfield rifle..

Vintage WWII Fairbairn Sykes 3rd Pattern Fighting Knife Rare England Stamp | eBay

Kept in the rifle case along with the Bayonette for the Ishapore.


Working on setting up a takedown recurve bow as well.



Technology is very very nice...but be prepared to do a manual overide..if need be....

Don't get me wrong here.. I verily enjoy, when I have the time , going out in the woods and just sitting down and being quiet...to enjoy the quiet....

But never forget where you are or what you are about....even out in the woods....amongst nature herself...and how quick and cruel nature can be...yet incredibly beautiful....even a rose has thorns...



Ferus.....Barbarus....crudelis.

Watcherchris
Not an Ishmaelite.

 

I have spent most of my life in the wild places, usually alone or with just a few other people. I prefer it that way. The places and situations (wildlife, weather, etc.) that frighten most people, I find peace in.

I consider it a very spiritual place. Wish I could spend more time there these days. Mountains, forest, jungle, desert, plains and tundra...I love them all.

Dale

 

Disagree with lonewolf....

While true enough that many people have lost connection to natural places.....most cities and towns sprung up because of a need to protect ones self from man as a predator...for safety reasons and this often combined with locations which were natural locations...meeting places to conduct business...trade....commerce.

This becomes very clear when looking at a map and seeing the number of cities and towns along certain locations on a river.

Another variation is cities and towns along todays highways which were at one time along trading routes....or the early road system ...trails.

This understanding becomes clear when looking at a large city like my mothers hometown of Frankfurt, Germany on the River Main. You can see the city spread out following the river..

And the Main River connects to the bigger river Rhine wherein is located the city Weisbaden....

In America numerous major cities are to be found along the Mississippi River and the other large rivers connecting to the Mississippi..


Watcherchris
Not an Ishmaelite[/quote][/quote]

 

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I believe I have to agree with Lonewolf on this. I believe towns and cities evolved because humans became weak of body and spirit and wanted others to protect them and developed trade as a way to acquire that protection. They lost the ability to provide there own food and to create what they needed for life and replaced it with specializations (jobs/employment/professions) instead of being generalist. We lived in tribes and had specializations within the tribal structure but for some reason that wasn't enough. Whether this was due to in discovery of agriculture or just a natural progression of the species. I don't know.

I do know that if all the cities and towns and the trade that goes with them were to vanish today. Anyone that isn't able to be a generalist and take care of themselves and there tribe, will die.

The tribal structure is where all of the important discoveries were made. Agriculture, domestication of animals, art, music were all developed when we were a tribal species.

What did we lose? What did we gain? I suppose it depends on who your asking.

Dale

 

Negative...Dalewick...

Between banks ...banking and insurance.and mans desire to make a profit.....cities came about....centers of leadership and or business....commerce...even centers of power..

As men began to learn to produce more than they could consume they began to look for marketplaces to sell their over production...and this indeed lead to some speciaization...

And these marketplaces began to spring up along routes wherein trade and defense both could take place...via travel...the ability to ship and tranship..goods and services.

Banks, banking and eventually insurance began to congregate in these areas wherein more commerce took place...and could be defended as well.

Profit became the motive for much of this ....between wars and other chaos of men.

Unless they were involved in manufacturing the chaos for a long term goal......banks and banking did not do well in chaos areas..

But that is another concealed/occult history....

My non Ishmaelite .02,
Watcherchris

 

Yes , i do feel the presence of a divine presence in the woods, I believe in god but it is more than religion it is a order of all things living and breathing at peace .

 

I guess this is a matter of perspective and timeline. When did it become more than a fort/defendable position and become considered a town/city? When did conquest/plunder become trade/commerce?

In my opinion, if money and the drive for profit are the locus from which humanity basis it purpose then we have become a vile creature and the sooner we are extinct from the universe, the better off the universe will be.

We can't seem to overcome our base drives such as greed, lust, envy, etc. and until we do we will continue to destroy more than we create. The geek in me knows it's not a Star Trek universe we live in but more of a Star Wars universe and the dark side is winning.

BTW - Banks and insurance companies are nothing more than government sanctioned loan sharks and between them and the governments taxes, people today are truly poor because we truly own NOTHING. I keep waiting on the democrats/socialist air tax for the CO2 you breath out.

I'll get off my grumpy box now and return you to your regularly scheduled show. LOL!

Dale

 

Nice thread back in 2017, jump forward four years and

 

Trade and commerce..and eventually cities....towns...became about because some figured it was better over the long run to cooperate in trade and commerce versus to go to war..or plunder for everything.

As to banks , banking and insurance....

I have learned via reading that often banks....and insurance companies ...make loans to nations who over time become our enemies.....ie...Japan and Germany.....prior to WW2....and even banking and technology transfer via our banks and insurance companies financing these nations.
Put another way....we often build our own enemies....

Things out here are often not what they seem if you can find details of what really happened.....and who or what organizations facilitated these events. But you often have to get away from the standard M1A version of events to find it.


Watcherchris
Not an Ishmaelite.

 

It is just some of the proof in this world of God's existence for me.

 

Good morning all,

With direct reference to the thread's title:

"Every natural fact is a symbol of some spiritual fact."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

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I do use different definitions to words such as "spiritual".