Dog, Dogs, Domesticated

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  1. Old Geezer

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    I've tried to find a thread about domesticated dogs, i.e. our best friends. Found stuff about feral dogs.

    Creating this to have a place to discuss our dogs. When it hits the fan, I'm willing to kill game to feed not only family but also our companion species.

    Dogs provide security, they help us hunt, and in particularly bad weather, we bring them inside to help keep us warm. It's all mutually beneficial. Post-SHTF, somebody messes with my critters, I'll make that human go ambient temp.

    We feed our dog bagged dog food and table scraps. In past, we've kept dogs (plural) inside our property fence. I have not used dogs for hunting, but would be fascinated by other's stories. A squirrel dog just has to run to the other side of the tree to get the squirrel to come to your side of the tree. Retrievers can be trained to do complex behaviors.
     
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    First, you CAN spoil your dog. Do not do this.


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    Here is a good thread that I can relate to . I will be watching this thread closely . Frankly though for now , I will hold back from saying too much as in the past have found some on this site found my canine defensive strategy too appalling to get their heads around . I do intend to defend my preps . Just as I sat down to type this my watch dog brought a dead possum into the house to show us . I simply told the dog to take the dead animal back outside and she dutifully picked it back up and disappeared out the front door with it and into the darkness .
     
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    Dogs are happiest when they know their place. We humans are happiest when we submit our will to the Will of our Creator. Knowing one's place is the beginning of all Knowledge.

    Humans may consider the proper disciplining of dogs cruel. It assuredly is not. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a dog to be happy unless it knows its place. Human pride prevents humans from understanding the hard-wiring of dogs. Human pride prevents the soul of a human from attaining unto its continued evolution.

    I am the master of my dog. I punish it if it goes out of its place. I pet it, I reward it, when it engages in the behaviors it is supposed to achieve. So too is my station before my Creator. A dog is only what it is. I am only what I am.

    Large ego = spiritual death in worlds beyond this. In a lucid dream, I was put in my place ... BIG TIME. Love is an SOB.

    Rules are rules. One can't pretend their way out of the Greater Reality.
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  5. lonewolf

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    we lost out terrier 5 years ago, we are currently trying various rescue centres but havent had any success so far.
     
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    I leave a way for my watch dog to leave or come inside my home at night as she prowls around looking for prey . I sleep with no concerns as I have full confidence in her . I have seen her at a full run leap up and flip to the ground in one graceful movement a 180 pound goat . A human would be even easier for her . -- Today she bayed inside my bedroom . I looked under my bed and there was a large live possum . I picked the bed up and she swooped in and began crushing bones and then promptly removed it from my house . I didn't even need to tell her to take it outside . I suppose her nose told her a possum was hiding under the bed . If I had stepped on that possum in the night barefooted I wouldn't have liked that . -- I wasn't joking about living in a rural setting . We take a flashlight at night to look for snakes when we go outside and walk our board walk to the outdoor shower .
     
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  7. Old Geezer

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    Dogs / humans ... some breeds are just violent. Genetics are genetics.

    Nice, nice, nice, killer, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, killer, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, ....

    "Dogs that fatally mauled Tennessee toddlers, injured mom were never violent, friend says"

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/dogs-fat...oddlers-injured-mom-never-violent-friend-says

    "The family's pit bulls killed Lilly Jane Bennard, 2, and her little brother, 5-month-old Hollace Dean Bennard

    "The family dogs who mauled two Tennessee toddlers to death Wednesday and left their mother with severe injuries had never been aggressive, a friend told Fox News Digital.

    "Kirstie Jane Bennard, 30, was seriously wounded when she tried to pull the family's two pit bulls off 5-month-old Hollace Dean and 2-year-old Lilly Jane at their home in rural Shelby County outside Memphis."

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    https://www.hepper.com/what-were-pit-bulls-bred-for/

    https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/Barbary-Pirates-English-Slaves/
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  8. lonewolf

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    most dogs can be trained, its the owners that need training most of the time.
    a lot of people became first time dog owners during the pandemic, trouble is most of them didnt have a clue.
     
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  9. Old Geezer

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    Can't train a pit bull to be a kindly shepherd.

    Pit bulls were genetically selected for fighting. They are hard-wired to do so.

    One does not read about Labrador retrievers going killer, nor will you likely read about English shepherds going mean. Actually, I've watched shepherds guard / herd other dogs and little kids. We have an English shepherd now (had a half-breed shepherd years ago). If I start to grab my wife and act aggressively towards her, this dog will put itself between her and I and start barking at me. The dog has no way of knowing that I'm only pretending. These breeds protect. They are hard-wired to do so. We had a Lab and they are super great with children. I've never seen a child licked to death.

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    "Dog Attacks & Biting Statistics by Breed"

    https://www.warriorsforjustice.com/dog-biting-statistics-by-breed/

    "A census was taken in 2021 of dog attacks by breed from previous years. The top 5 dog breeds with the most bite attacks in the United States are listed below."

    1. Pit Bull: Attacks: 3,397; Deaths: 295

    2. Rottweiler: Attacks: 535 Deaths: 8

    3. German Shepherd: Attacks: 113 Deaths: 15

    4. Presa Canario: Attacks: 111 Deaths: 18

    5. Wolf-Dog Hybrids: Attacks: 85 Deaths: 19

    "A staggering 65% of deaths from dog bite attacks come from pit bulls. Of the 433 total dog bite victim fatalities between 2005 and 2017, 284 came from the Pit Bull breed. While Pit Bulls are known to have incredibly strong jaws and razor-sharp teeth, these statistics could be somewhat misleading.

    "Pit bulls have a much higher fatality rate when they attack humans than other breeds, but they are also the most abused breed in the United States. They are illegally used in dogfighting matches and provoked to aggressive behavior.

    "Another aspect of these statistics is that Pit Bulls are more efficient with their attacks because of their strength. If a small breed such as a Chihuahua bites you, the likelihood of this bite being severe is low. Even if the Chihuahua breed bites more often, the statistics will not show that a Chihuahua is the most dangerous dog because their bites do not end in hospitalizations or fatalities.

    "As a pet owner, do your research on your dog’s breed and provide it with the proper care. Socialize regularly, especially with children to get them used to them at an early age. Give it plenty of exercises so that it does not take out that energy in aggression."
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  10. lonewolf

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    Terriers for me and I've had quite a few, good ratters and good warning dogs.
     
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  11. TexDanm

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    I don't think that the problem is mostly the dogs as much as it is the IDIOTS that own them. A pit bull is mostly just a name. I've had several bulldogs and one and all they were hardheaded, protective, and very loyal to their families. Not one of them was mean or vicious and that is mostly because I made CERTAIN that they KNEW their place in the pack. You can tolerate a little aggression from a little yapper but if you have a big dog you have to train and tame it.
     
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  12. lonewolf

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    you are correct, its not the dogs its the owners, most people dont know how to handle dogs and we had a lot of first time owners over here during the pandemic, no knowledge and very little brain power. some of the smaller "handbag" type breeds are referred to by some as "fur babies" and are clothed in human attire, some people are not only stupid they are mentally deficient.
     
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  13. Old Geezer

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    Small terriers irritate the crap out'a me. They are yap-yap critters with attitude. I'd kill'em just for target practice. Post SHTF, I see a dangerous breed of dog, I shoot it.

    The fighting terriers are bred to bite and then hold-on / sling side-to-side for the ripping effect. Other breeds usually bite, let go, bite again, let go, bite again ... . The latter results in multiple bites. Dogs bred to fight cause ripping injuries plus broken arm bones in their human victims -- they can and do kill children.

    Increasingly in America, dog-fighting is coming back as a hideous blood-sport. These animals suffer to death. The primary crews pulling these abominations are urban gangs. Dogs that do not perform are shot, but some escape. Some low percentage of these who get away, survive and form packs. They kill a whole lot of cats (who cares?!), but also a bunch of smaller breeds of dogs who are kept as pets. A non-fighting breed of dog has little chance of surviving such an attack.


    "Fatal Dog Attack Statistics In 2020"


    https://www.piepronation.com/most-dog-bites-by-breed-2021/

    "Looking specifically at 2020, the most recent year for which reliable data has been collected and made publicly available, we can see that pit bulls continue to lead the nation in fatal bite incidents. Taking a deeper dive into the data, pit bulls , mastiff-type war and guard dogs , and additional bull breeds dealt over 80% of lethal bites. One-third of the victims were children nine years or younger."

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    "Detroit plans construction of long-awaited animal shelter"


    https://www.bridgedetroit.com/detroit-animal-shelter/

    "Detroit has recorded an increase in dog bites since 2020, according to monthly reports published by the city. There were 609 dog bite incidents as of Nov. 1, which is already higher than the total in 2021 (590 bites) and 2020 (450 bites) with two months still unaccounted for. The most dangerous month for dog bites this year was in May, when 107 bites were recorded.

    "Other statistics kept by Detroit Animal Care and Control followed a similar pattern. Animal control responded 12,602 times to calls from residents in 2020, which increased to 15,478 responses in 2021, and 15,779 responses this year as of Nov. 1.

    "Intakes at the Detroit Animal Care and Control facilities increased from 4,097 animals in 2020 to 4,613 the following year. The city reported 4,241 intakes so far this year, but the monthly average increased from 510 intakes to 626 intakes in the last year, putting Detroit on track to surpass its 2021 total year’s end. "

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    "Neighbors say stray dogs have been killing East Memphis cats for months"


    https://wreg.com/news/local/neighbors-say-stray-dogs-killed-dozen-of-cats-in-east-memphis/

    "MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Neighbors in the Sea Isle and Colonial Acres subdivisions say two stray dogs have been terrorizing the area and have killed around two dozen cats.

    "Karen Derefinko said the dogs killed two cats on Sunday. She said despite numerous calls to animal control, no one has come to pick up the dangerous animals.

    “'We’ve given them numerous addresses where the dogs have been,' said Derefinko. 'They are skinny because they’ve been left for about six months, and MAS still does not come. So, it’s a bit of a curiosity. If they are killing this many cats and they are aggressive to humans, what else has to happen for MAS to act.'

    "Katie Pemberton said they received three calls Sunday about a black dog attacking people and other animals. Pemberton said an officer did come out but couldn’t locate the dog.

    "Derefinko, though, said they have been dealing with the stray dogs since August, and that animal control has asked neighbors to try to trap and hold them for them.

    “'These are two very aggressive dogs, and it’s very difficult for us to trap them. We had ten neighbors trying to catch them yesterday with no success because the dogs are aggressive,' said Derefinko.

    "Neighbors said they don’t know the solution but don’t want a pack of dogs roaming their streets."

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    There's always the issue of dog-packs killing deer and attacking livestock in rural areas. In rural areas, people usually just kill as many dogs as they can when a pack is spotted. These packs are also responsible for the rabies outbreaks.

    "Wild Packs of Dogs Are Attacking Covelo Residents and Killing Livestock"

    https://mendofever.com/2023/02/21/w...cking-covelo-residents-and-killing-livestock/

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    February 18, 2023

    "Hunter in Georgia recovering after three dogs attacked him 'in a complete frenzy'"

    https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/hunter-georgia-recovering-three-dogs-attacked-him-complete-frenzy

    "'One of them came in and attacked me. When it did, the other two joined in,' he said about the dogs.

    "Two of the dogs were pit bull mixes, while the other was a German shepherd mix, he told Field & Stream.

    "The dogs were attacking in 'kind of like a wolf mentality' and 'were in a complete frenzy,' he said.

    "While fighting off the dogs, he was able to move toward another ladder stand — where he apparently then climbed to safety."

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  14. lonewolf

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    large dogs over here are nothing more than status symbols especially the more exotics, pitbulls are illegal to own here because of their aggressive nature and many attacks on humans, they were mostly owned by drug dealers to intimidate rival dealers.
    any dog will be a good guard dog, not an attack dog but one that warns of imminent danger, dogs have better hearing than any human.
    Terriers have always been my preferred dog, my personal choice is a Cairn Terrier, related to West Highland White Terriers and Scotties, all bred out of the old Skye terrier.
    too many people over here got dogs during the pandemic, most werent trained or even socialised and now people are going back to work these dogs are turning up in the rescue centres .
     
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    1. Old Geezer
      True about people buying dogs during lock-downs. People talk to dogs. I do. Our dog knows at least 10 words.

      What irks me mightily is how people set dogs out / abandon them. Made my dad exceedingly angry. Almost all of these dogs die. They die of hunger, cold, other dogs attacking them, ... cruel cruel cruel. Hunters have to shoot them (can't have rabies outbreaks; beyond scary, that!). The animals that really should be shot are the humans who abandoned the dogs. Under the "friendly category", comparing dogs to humans is an insult to dogs.
       
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      Not sure I agree about large dogs merely being status symbols. I have four large dogs, two of which are over 14 years old and retired while the others are both useful guard dogs. The deerhound is devoted to my partner and would defend her in my absence, the lurcher is a competent multi purpose hunting dog who will lamp, point and tree squirrels. Left to his own devices he will hunt rabbits and field voles for recreation.
       
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  15. lonewolf

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    Dogs know EVERYTHING people say they just dont answer back.
    people who abandon any animal should be banned for life from keeping animals.
     
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  16. Old Geezer

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      A handgun can stop a mean dog. This handgun was likely a 9mm or a .40 Remington because the homeowner/defender is a member of the police department.


      Bear spray:

       
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    Pit bulls will never be banned across the United States. Some U.S. states with socialistic centralized governments restrict their ownership. But even if this breed were to be banned, people wouldn't obey the law. Some inner city gangs conduct dog fights and pit bulls and Rottweilers are popular fighting breeds.

    If law enforcement can't enforce the laws, then the laws are meaningless. Civilized citizens attempt to obey reasonable laws (not so much the stupid/irrational laws); however, we have knuckle-draggers who do whatever they want.

    Here in the States, there are areas where law enforcement, fire departments, and emergency medical services are afraid to enter. To enter, they have to form multi-vehicle convoys. In some states, law enf. want the regular public to be armed because they may need them to save their lives if they are attacked by some evil crew of felons. And too, civilians can arm a cop with proper weaponry if all the cop has is a handgun. If the cop is in pursuit / left the patrol car, then their shotgun or tactical rifle isn't available to them at the moment.

    https://lawnews.tv/examples-of-armed-citizens-helping-police/

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ssing-motorist-who-shot-attacker-dead-n706381

    https://freedomslodge.com/fbi-report-armed-citizens-killed-more-criminals-than-police/

    Here in the USSA, we have legions of violent felons and more are crossing into our country every day. Central American gangs and Mexican drug cartels are sending-in their members hidden within the huge river of regular immigrants. This is not being stopped by the current administration and deep state. How to identify gang members within masses? No way. Thus, the immigration laws must be enforced ... and they are not.

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    Now back to mean 4-legged dogs:

    Numerous countries have banned breeds like pit bulls / breeds used in dog-fighting. Rottweilers are easily made mean and if they are mean can kill a human. Thing is though, Rott.s are not by nature mean; they are just very strong. This breed was bred to be cattle dogs (first in ancient Rome; cattle are somewhat larger than sheep;), therefore ...) and later in Germany to pull meat carts, thus the wide shoulders and strength. Pitt bulls on the other hand were exclusively bred to fight each other; they are rapacious. Dog-fighting is at the top of the list of human cruel behaviors, unimaginable.

    https://petkeen.com/what-were-rottweilers-bred-for/

    Here's a list of countries that ban pit-bulls. I guess some of these countries ban other breeds in addition to the pits.

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  19. Old Geezer

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    I shouldn't have brought up the topic of pit bulls. Screwed my Karma. I saw three pit-bulls today in three different locations; one at a farm/garden/tractor show (guy came in there with the thing on a leash, as if that would help), saw one riding in a truck, saw one outside a gas station (off an interstate highway) being walked by owner. Back at home here, not leaving the house again. They are after me!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
     
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    I was almost licked to death today by a Yellow Lab. I was in a store where they have a giant puppy. The thing also rolled over on its back and demanded that I scratch its tummy. What horrors!
     
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    Next dog breed banned in the U.K.

    " ‘Danger to Our Communities’: UK Govt Finally Moves to Ban Deadly ‘American Bully XL’ Dogs"


    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...y-moves-to-ban-deadly-american-bully-xl-dogs/

    "American Bully XL dogs are a “danger to our communities”, said UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, saying they will be banned in remarks that come almost two years after the first person was killed in Britain in an attack by one of the breed and hours after yet another fatality."

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    The Russian Bear Dog is cute ... and big.

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    "Nice doggy! Nice doggy, I'm your friend!!!" :eek::eek::eek:

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    A man is attacked by pit-bulls. One man gets his granddaughter to call 911. Another good neighbor comes out to help the man. Then, the dogs come for him. He shoots one pit bull through the shoulder. This round did NOT put the dog down. Pits are so muscular that it takes Thor's hammer to disable / kill one.



    Me I've been climbed by a crazy dog. Hurt me real good. The breed that got me on that occasion was a "friendly" -- was good with kids. Yet, it sure went off on me. I didn't bleed much, however. That dog ended up getting stomped to death by a horse that was grazing in a pasture across from our house. Ranchers and farmers shoot wild dogs on sight. Dog packs are a terror. Some hikers and hunters carry high-capacity automatic handguns when back in the mountains to defend themselves should they run across a dog pack ... or a dog pack run across them ... then attack. When I was just a kid, I got bitten through the web of my hand. Man, did that ever hurt! Speaking of climbing, pit bulls will leap to the top of a car if you try to escape to a vehicle roof. They'll get you if they go into attack mode.

    This jogger climbs a fence to get away from a pit that snapped its leash. The dog would have still gotten him if not for the owner finally getting some control over the dog.



    The following vid tries to explain how to help stop a dog attack. I know how. Shoot the damned thing!

     
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  24. Old Geezer

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    Dr Jekyll / Mr. Hide ... in the realm of dogs.

    Situation: This month, had to get some quality metalwork / welding done. No way my eldest could have handled it, so had to find the people to get this done. Was directed to some real high-quality workmen here in a semi-rural area. These were local good'ol'boys -- tattooed muscular arms, heavy metal-working equipment, pit-bulls guarding their buildings. The work was done via barter, no cash, no bank, just barter with handshake and penned receipt on a piece of scrap paper with contact info should I need more work done.

    Current topic: Two of their pit bulls, with which I interacted, which interacted with me.

    One was super nice. No chain. No need to chain. It wagged its tail and liked to be petted -- almost demanded being petted, actually. Aggressively nice, unlimited energy, but a very good dog.

    A second pit bull came for me as I was walking past building #2. A chain kept it from completing the distance to me. I was less than impressed with the size, the robustness, of that chain. Later, one worker was walking said dog on a chain leash. The man was strong and could handle the animal. Good thing that, because it growled and went after another dog. The chain and strong arms of its owner kept it from biting the other dog ... unprovoked.

    I'd say there were guns there, but one doesn't really want to have a pit bull shot off of you, jaws wedged with a stick off of your arm or neck. Nope, not me.

    Need I more work done on something else, I'd go back to their business. In this world, seems everything has some unpleasantness attached to it.

    Take-away: Avoid pit bulls. Just assume that they are more than capable of being not-nice
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  25. Old Geezer

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    Domesticated

    Guns are inanimate objects. Guns ain't got brains. Dogs bred to fight, have brains, animal will, can act on their own ... which is sometimes beyond human comprehension. Carnivores do what they do. No one should be shocked.

    If you are a prepper, watch the following videos below in full.

    There are three houses in my neighborhood where multiple pit-bulls and similar breeds (worse breeds, if you can believe it) are housed/fenced-in. This week, at night, watched a fellow walking his pitbull ... or should I say that the pitbull was walking him -- it did as it pleased, it was stronger than its young man "owner". It wanted to take a leak on a neighbor's truck tires one road over from where we live. The "owner" couldn't keep it from doing so. It was about to pull the man's arm out of its socket. Thus, homey has a loaded lever-action and a pump with buckshot & slugs fully loaded into its tube and shell-holder ready for action.

    Handguns "may", stop such a monster before it rips-off your reproductive organs. That's just not enough for my protection, nor my family's protection. Use a cannon to kill a monster. In the second video below (?), a 40 S&W or a 10mm Auto hits a dog's skull and mushrooms. However, this .40 cal bullet does NOT penetrate the animal's skull. Go figure. Impossible. Yet, it happened. Large carnivores ARE NOT humans. They are something unimaginable for us to understand. Thus, we must use cannons against them. Do service handguns sometimes stop them in their tracks? Well, sure, duh! However, don't bet your life on it. Don't bet your neighbor's life on it. Deranged carnivore = bring out the artillery.


    "Cop Saves Woman From Getting Eaten Alive "




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    In the above video, pieces of meat off the woman's lower legs were scattered in the front yard of this home. She had to have both of her legs amputated below the knees. Multiple surgeries had to be performed to reconstruct her face.

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    In the following video, a pit bull takes a round out of an officer's duty handgun, yelps, then walks back into its owner's residence.



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    In the following video, a charging dog takes a round to the head which knocks the beast unconscious. Later, the dog gets back up. It took a round from a .40 S&W or a 10 mm Auto (?). The bullet mushroomed, yet did NOT penetrate the dog's skull. This would have been an instant kill for a human. Remember, dog's ain't humans!!!!! Usually, a .357 mag. will drop a mean dog for the count ... got one story in particular, happened to a work-mate.



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  26. lonewolf

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    Pit bulls are a banned breed in the UK, so are XL bully dogs which have just been added to the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991. people are not allowed to own one, breed them, sell them or give them away.
     
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  27. Old Geezer

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    Just because something is banned by law most assuredly doesn't mean that the will of Big Brother will come to fruition.

    Self defense and family defense is upon us individually. Big Brother government is ultimately the enemy. Government is often more of a danger to the general population than organized crime families/gangs. I've had family members who worked for organized crime, yet back a half-century ago (and then some) these families had hard'n'fast rules ... very, very strict rules (a person's family was sacred; women and children were to be protected ... even those of whom who wanted you dead).

    Not anymore.

    You gotta do what you gotta do. The further out in the boonies you live, the easier it is to "get the job done." I routinely run stop signs and send my car over 100 mph. OK, so recently I got caught. So it goes. Gotta do what you gotta do. Post-SHTF, this will be multiplied ten-thousand times. F### Big Brother and those shoe-shine boys who kneel before it.
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      Would I come to the aid of a cop(s)? Sure as hell I would!!! My dad and his lot were there for the cops when they needed "assistance" with dealing with the worst of the worst. One uncle of mine killed innumerable Germans. He knew this thing. This thing was, deeply and unfortunately, burned into him. Life isn't fun. So it goes. Poor everyday cops -- these guyz can't feed their own families ... what's that about????!!!!! :( I'd vote for higher taxes if I, by-god, knew that the money was going to good causes. Tax monies inevitably go into the pockets of the spiritually damned. Thus, I deeply resent having to pay protection money to the guvment would-be gods.
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    would I come to the aid of a UK cop? hell no, I'd probably end up being arrested myself, it has happened to others before.
     
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    it is the job of the Police to enforce the law, whilst they may be lax in the event of the Gaza protests they are pretty good at taking banned and dangerous dogs off the streets, even shooting them if it calls for it, especially if some kid has been attacked.
     
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    Here in the States, dog-fighting is still around. Gangs keep fighting dogs for this reason and to use as security. As we all know, there are a few breeds of dogs that are specifically bred to fight. Sometimes these things act like any other dog; however, when their brain's "fight trigger" gets pulled, they go turbo violent. If a dog attacks a gang member, it gets shot -- all gang-bangers are perpetually armed.

    In my area, dog-fighting clubs are rare. There is a lot of cock-fighting and one will see on properties over a dozen rooster pens to keep these fighting cocks separated. These are of course being raised to fight.

    Firearms are inanimate objects. Fighting dogs have their own will ... however crude. A rooster can peck and spur you. A fighting dog will rip your legs down to the bone, then go for your throat.

    The pit bulls that are raised near our home are kept as pets. This is a horrible mistake on the part of their owners. In the U.S., children routinely get killed by these mentally unstable dog breeds. I have a rifle sitting behind me right now that I keep, not just for protection against human evolutionary throwbacks, but also to nuke a mean dog should it attack a human. Have a pump shotgun in the other room for the same purpose. Both weapons are fully loaded and ready to go. The handgun I have next to me is NOT sufficiently powerful to kill one of these monsters. Handguns are at best a make-do item to allow you to get to a real weapon.
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    mostly small dogs around where I live, they probably wont survive post SHTF without their owners.
    dogs these days arent like any of the dogs I ever owned, mostly made up breeds crossed with other breeds to make a new one many of them crossed with Poodles.
     
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