Experts Warn Vaccines Could Cause Irreversible Genetic Damage.

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  1. lonewolf

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    link to report ( FYI):
    www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-03-mrna-vaccines-genetic-damage.html#
    these vaccines are completely new and nothing like the old vaccines you may have had in the past, they are untried on large numbers of the general public and the side effects are unknown and may not appear for years after you have had the jab. these side effects cannot be reversed and will be with you for the rest of your life and could be life changing.
    it specifically mentions the Pfizer vaccine now arriving in the UK.
    anyone still want to be a guinea pig?
     
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  2. TMT Tactical

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    Since I have never had a desire to play Russian Roulette, I will also pass on the jab.
     
  3. poltiregist

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    I have no intention of becoming a mutant . I will set back and let the gullible rush out to get the vaccine . I neither trust politicians and the feel good words that come out of their mouths .
     
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  4. Dalewick

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    From what I've read and been told, it is impossible to develop an actual vaccine to any genetically modified virus. Makes me wonder is this vaccine actually supposed to help with the covid or do other things. The mRNA does control your genetic structure, so you may have stomach acid pumps develop in your eyes. Or at least that's how it was explained to me.

    When I showed my daughter (biomedical engineer), this article, she thought it was fake news. Then I fact checked it, and holy sheep shit batman, it's real.

    No thanks, I'll pass.

    Dale
     
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  5. Old Geezer

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    Governments will not be able to reimburse those who are permanently injured or killed by these vaccines, because it could be years before the horrors begin and and by that time, Western nations will be bankrupt.
     
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  6. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Lonewolf,

    Thank you for this above linked article.

    Had been hearing about the same stuff.

    In April or a little later will evaluate situation.

    Someone here developed a catchy acronym about the second group's shot/jab. The second group, after the initial public health workers and selected others like FBI agents, is for the elderly and those with serious ailments.

    The catchy acronym ... must retrive when at next meeting ... was something about "thinning out the Social Security [government retirement type checks] rolls".

    I love gallows-humor.
     
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  7. lonewolf

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    there could be a lot of truth in that catchy acronym.
     
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  8. lonewolf

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    I have no intention of becoming a G.M.Human Being!
    once they start handing out this stuff better look out for Zombies!!
     
  9. Old Geezer

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    https://justthenews.com/politics-po...s-across-country-are-failing-collect-critical

    "For months, testing has been viewed by leaders and medical officials worldwide as an indispensable tool for addressing the coronavirus pandemic. COVID-19 tests have been cited as both a way to determine the disease's prevalence in a given region and as a way for individuals who have previously tested positive for the virus to confirm that they are no longer infected.

    "Yet the broad reliability and/or relevance of those tests has over the course of the pandemic been brought under scrutiny by media reports and comments from health officials and experts. Investigations by both Just the News and the New York Times have revealed that many of the "positive" test results recorded throughout the country may actually denote nothing more than fragments of dead COVID virus picked up by overly sensitive testing equipment."
     
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  10. Old Geezer

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    https://planetfreewill.news/world-f...rching-toward-starvation-in-wake-of-covid-19/

    "According to the head of the World Food Program (WFP), the amount of people around the world now on the brink of starvation has doubled due to the COVID-19 pandemic and the resulting economic effects of government reactions to the virus.

    "Director of the WFP, David Beasley, who previously warned that the 'cure' for the COVID-19 pandemic should not be worse than the disease, told the United Nations General Assembly on Friday that 270 million people are now 'marching towards starvation' in wake of the economic effects of the pandemic.

    “'As I had warned the United Nations Security council back in April, that if we’re not careful the cure could be worse than the disease because of the economic ripple effect – if we don’t handle economic disruptions, supply chain disruptions, ect. …' Beasley told the council.

    “As we predicted back in April, the number of people that were going to be marching toward the brink of starvation had already risen from 80 million to 135 million the last four years, primarily because of man made conflict,” the director went on, adding:

    “But because of COVID it’s now spiking from 135 million people – not going to bed hungry now, [but] literally marching towards starvation – to 270 million people.”

    "Beasley expressed a bleak outlook for 2021 as he believes next year is going to be 'catastrophic based on what we’re seeing at this stage of the game.'

    "He said that 'because we’ve spent $19 trillion, that money may not, and will not most likely be available for 2021' as economic contractions out pace the need to supply a lifeline to those starving.

    "The WFP director’s shocking warning was sounded just prior to alarm bells raised by the WHO’s special envoy on COVID-19, Dr. David Nabarro, who cautioned that national lockdowns should be avoided as a primary response to COVID-19 as they have the consequence of 'making poor people an awful lot poorer.'”
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  11. lonewolf

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    during the roll out of the Pfizer vaccine in the UK 2 people had serious allergic reactions.
    during clinical trials in the US 6 people DIED, FDA said they were not concerned. well they should be!!
     
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  12. Old Geezer

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    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/r...ink-alcohol-two-months-after-covid-19-vaccine

    "Russians are being asked to make the ultimate sacrifice; no drinking alcohol for six weeks after taking the country's COVID-19 vaccine.

    "In a statement to state-owned Tass, Deputy Prime Minister Tatyana Golikova said that Russians will need to take heightened precautions during the 42 days that the 'Sputnik V' coronavirus vaccine requires to reach maximum effectiveness.

    "'[Russians] will have to refrain from visiting crowded places, wear face masks, use sanitizers, minimize contacts and refrain from drinking alcohol or taking immunosuppressant drugs,' she said.

    "(So, no transplant recipients or HIV-positive individuals?)"
     
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  13. Pragmatist

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    And for infringement of the no alcohol for 6 weeks after, the Czar's constabulary will charge the violators with swords drawn and horses at trot speed.

    Good afternoon Old Geezer,

    As much as I am non passive-aggressive; am following the quarantine and adhering to it,...

    it's more and more looking like a reset program than a public health matter. Johnson and Johnson has something pending that's only 1 (one) shot/jab. For senior citizens ... and this is ice, snow weather ... It's difficult to take all this that seriously. Requiring a senior citizen to drive in rough weather - and possibly with a reaction from shot/jab 1 - ......

    My Boy Scout troop and many High School 4-H clubs could do better.
     
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    1. Old Geezer
      In high school, we had a kid who got TB. We on the student council handled the scheduling paperwork and made sure everybody got tested for TB. Who better than the student council, peer-pressure and all that. Health Dept people of course did all the medical stuff. At the time, I had a great uncle who had it. Had visited him up in Ohio; drove him around town. He died when I was a senior in H.S. -- I was one of the pall bearers, copper casket heavy. My TB test was suspicious, so got myself a chest X-ray from family quack doc. Lotta guys coming back from Vietnam with bad TB cases / advanced shit.
       
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  14. Max rigger

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    So you believe a right wing quack medical site over science? Well done....not. Looks like there will be a lot less preppers around in the coming years as the idiot antivaxer practitioners die off.
     
  15. Old Geezer

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    From JAMA Internal Medicine (Journal of the American Medical Association)

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2771091

    "The Exclusion of Older Persons From Vaccine and Treatment Trials for Coronavirus Disease 2019—Missing the Target"

    "Older adults are at greatest risk of severe disease and death due to coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Globally, persons older than 65 years comprise 9% of the population,1 yet account for 30% to 40% of cases and more than 80% of deaths.2

    "Unfortunately, there is a long history of exclusion of older adults from clinical trials. In response, the National Institutes of Health instituted the Inclusion Across the Lifespan policy, requiring the inclusion of older adults in clinical trials.3 Thus, we reviewed all COVID-19 treatment and vaccine trials on http://www.clinicaltrials.gov to evaluate their risk for exclusion of older adults (≥65 years)."

    Basically, the big pharmaceuticals have gotten good results with their healthy test subjects, so they are going to run with what they have. Interesting thing is that some "experts" are saying that nursing home patients should be first-up for the vaccine. The real reason is to justify getting vaccines for nursing home staff who are often at risk of Chinacovid side-effects due to their often being morbidly obese, smoking, and having profoundly unhealthy diets. America's poor have much higher c19 morbidity rates due to the aforementioned factors.

    This afternoon, I was in a Zoom meeting with physicians and other medical folk in another part of America three time-zones away. It is approaching 20 years now that I have routinely worked with dozens of health-care providers from every field. This is my career number three. God knows that I'm no stranger to the medical literature, no stranger to reading flawed studies. University grad school, was a research assistant in the medical realm.

    Maxine's arrogance is sometimes annoying (I've never tolerated being around children particularly well). Sometimes its squeaking is funny. Hamsters and lab rats can be cute.
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  16. lonewolf

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    as preppers we check various reports not just the one peddled by TPTB.
    as I have not been offered the jab yet and probably wont be until well through next year any decision about vaccination can be postponed until then.
    it looks like facial paralysis is one of the side effects, various NGO's are saying that there is a serious lack of data.
     
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    OR

    All the sheeple that jumped at the chance to become lab rats, discover they are now screwed and will catch every disease coming down the pike, due to a unknown immunity disorder caused by the jab. The wait and see crowd survive and the sheeple will die off.
     
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  18. Old Geezer

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    Twenty years ago, researchers began seeing the long-term effects of the polio vaccine given in the 1950s. The reality of finding out much later-on -- years/decades later -- that something had gone wrong with initial runs of vaccines is very well known.

    July 15, 2001Updated: Feb. 1, 2012:
    https://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Rogue-virus-in-the-vaccine-Early-polio-vaccine-2899957.php

    "A growing number of medical researchers fear that a monkey virus that contaminated polio vaccine given to tens of millions of Americans in the 1950s and '60s may be causing rare human cancers.

    "For four decades, government officials have insisted that there is no evidence the simian virus called SV40 is harmful to humans. But in recent years, dozens of scientific studies have found the virus in a steadily increasing number of rare brain, bone and lung-related tumors - the same malignant cancer SV40 causes in lab animals.

    "Even more troubling, the virus has been detected in tumors removed from people never inoculated with the contaminated vaccine, leading some to worry that those infected by the vaccine might be spreading SV40"

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10472327/
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  19. poltiregist

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    An example when things go wrong . Dr Tyrone Hayes " biologist " conducted experiments on frogs and the results of them being exposed to a herbicide called " atrazine ' . Using BELOW the accepted level in U.S drinking water , it turned the frogs gay . The chemical turned the testosterone in male frogs into Estrogen . At least my drinking water I am pumping up from an underground cave and we don't have added chemicals . This just highlights what can go wrong when unknown chemicals are put into a person . -- Let the sheeple men take the shot and turn gay - just stay away from me . Their women will soon be looking for an unaltered straight man . ;)
     
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