Flipping God The Bird

Discussion in 'Religion, Religious Views, and Life After Death' started by Old Geezer, Mar 6, 2022.

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  1. Max rigger

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    Proof is being able to replicate a result, its a core element of science as I'm sure a man of your 160 IQ grasps even more than me.

    Arthur Clarke summed things up well when he wrote his three laws which I'm sure are burnt into your memory

    These so-called laws are:

    1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, they are almost certainly right. When they state that something is impossible, they are very probably wrong.
    2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
    3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
     
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  2. Old Geezer

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    I used to present some Biblical boo-boos to Born-Agains. They would go bat-#### crazy.

    There are many university professors today who hold onto Newtonian physics = intellectual inertia.

    "Quantum physics: Our study suggests objective reality doesn't exist"


    https://phys.org/news/2019-11-quantum-physics-reality-doesnt.html

    "Alternative facts are spreading like a virus across society. Now it seems they have even infected science—at least the quantum realm. This may seem counter intuitive. The scientific method is after all founded on the reliable notions of observation, measurement and repeatability. A fact, as established by a measurement, should be objective, such that all observers can agree with it.

    "But in a paper recently published in Science Advances, we show that in the micro-world of atoms and particles that is governed by the strange rules of quantum mechanics, two different observers are entitled to their own facts. In other words, according to our best theory of the building blocks of nature itself, facts can actually be subjective.

    "Observers are powerful players in the quantum world. According to the theory, particles can be in several places or states at once—this is called a superposition. But oddly, this is only the case when they aren't observed. The second you observe a quantum system, it picks a specific location or state—breaking the superposition. The fact that nature behaves this way has been proven multiple times in the lab—for example, in the famous double slit experiment ... .

    "Some physicists see these new developments as bolstering interpretations that allow more than one outcome to occur for an observation, for example the existence of parallel universes in which each outcome happens. Others see it as compelling evidence for intrinsically observer-dependent theories such as Quantum Bayesianism, in which an agent's actions and experiences are central concerns of the theory. But yet others take this as a strong pointer that perhaps quantum mechanics will break down above certain complexity scales.

    "Clearly these are all deeply philosophical questions about the fundamental nature of reality. Whatever the answer, an interesting future awaits."

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    "10 Scientific Dogmas That Need to Be Reevaluated"


    https://www.faena.com/aleph/10-scientific-dogmas-that-need-to-be-reevaluated

    "For science, if something exists it can be measured —if it cannot be measured, well, then it doesn’t exist. In a simplistic and slightly out of context metaphor, this is equivalent to saying that for the blind the world doesn’t exist because they cannot see it. What science has failed to question about itself are the very conditions in which the phenomena of the universe are observed, thus perpetuating its survival as an economic and political practice, but paradoxically, not scientific.

    "The materialist paradigm —the standard which science relies on to produce answers, in our days and for the past two-hundred years— is still unable to account for the simplest human experience: what is our consciousness? Are our dreams and feelings merely chemicals flowing through an organic computer? And if this were the case, why is it that feelings cannot be produced in a lab test tube?

    "Minds like that of Carl Sagan could easily explain, through scientific dissemination, how a being from two dimensions (in a hypothetical world) could not perceive a three dimensional world. Is it possible that in our actual dimension we cannot even suppose that the universe as we know it is not given at once and forever but, like all living creatures, that it evolves over time?

    "Is it not possible, let’s say hypothetically speaking, that the version of the universe we currently have is only what our instruments, and especially our imagination allows us to understand? If science cannot, in its current state, account for consciousness phenomena as commonplace as memory, synchronicity, or even near death experiences or spontaneous epiphanies, is it not its responsibility, in terms of science, to reevaluate its own principles?"

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    "Rethinking reality"


    https://www.sciencenews.org/century/quantum-physics-theory-revolution-reality-uncertainty

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    "Is the Mind Quantum?"

    https://noetic.org/blog/is-the-mind-quantum/

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    "Physicists explain how the brain might connect to the quantum realm"

    "Down the rabbit hole ..."

    https://www.inverse.com/science/consciousness-and-quantum-physics
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  3. Old Geezer

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    https://en-volve.com/2022/06/09/sic...-satanists-performing-unbaptisms-on-the-kids/

    "An event dubbed 'Pride in the Park' targeting young kids will include a sick leftist cult of Satanists who have sworn to perform 'unbaptisms' on the children. And this isn’t in California, but deep-red Idaho.

    "The event, which will take place this Saturday in Coeur d’Alene, is described as a 'family friendly celebration of LGBTQ+ diversity.'

    "The Satanic Temple will be there, according to the North Idaho Pride Alliance website, in an attempt to brainwash and recruit children.'

    “'@TSTIdaho will be at Coeur D’Alene’s 'Pride in the Park' event next Saturday, June 11th from 10am-3pm!' tweeted one Satanist.


    “'We will have merchandise and performing unbaptisms for those interested! Just know, Satan loves you for you! Hail Satan!'”

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    https://www.breitbart.com/entertain...sturbation-at-all-ages-l-a-pride-performance/

    "Pop star Christina Aguilera wore a green, bejeweled phallus which she pretended to masturbate during her performance at the all-ages L.A. Pride music festival Saturday night.

    "Aguilera performed at the event, which Los Angeles Daily News describes as an 'all-ages' L.A. Pride in the Park music festival to 'celebrate the LGBTQ+ community.'
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  4. watcherchris

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    Flipping God the Bird....


    here..


    A very interesting implication here and one for which the members here will often see me declaring.

    The silent implication is that your God given 2nd Amendment Right is not absolute but government power is absolute.

    Absolute power ...divine right of Kings.


    Be warned these Ishmaelites counting on us not knowing much history.

    Be very very careful of the Republican Silence on these issues.

    Remember.......the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution of the United States are all limits on the Federal Government not to the people or the States..

    This is called Limited Government.

    It is not called manufacturing chaos and confusion...or put another way ...manufacturing bad guys for political/social lucre.


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  5. Old Geezer

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    I cannot provide a link to the following article. One has to have log-in privileges to a medical library (plus, that library has to have access to many sources, i.e. very expensive / a huge undertaking; major universities do have this capability; even with all of that, I only got around 30 hits, some in foreign languages, some rather old; this article is more recent; it's a report concerning findings gained during a fetal surgery event). Also, I cannot quote the entire article, else I would be violating copyright laws. Here are some excerpts:

    "Can fetus feel pain in the second trimester? Lessons learned from a sentinel event"

    Child's Nervous System volume 34, pages 195–196 (2018)
    María J. Mayorga-Buiza; Javier Marquez-Rivas & Emilio Gomez-Gonzalez

    "Open fetal surgery (OFS) remains a major procedure for mother and fetus. In such cases, fetus anesthesia/analgesia can be provided by different routes but, in our opinion, direct administration is mandatory [3].

    "A 24-week fetus undergoing OFS for MMR under a specific protocol [4] for anesthesia and management was designed by our group: rapid sequence induction and placental support with sevoflurane, remifentanil, and phenylephrine. Intramuscular (IM) vecuronium (0.2 μg/kg), atropine (0.01 mg/kg), and fentanyl (10–20 μg/kg) are directly administered to the fetus (Fig. 1).

    "This case of fetal pain response with bradycardia led us to consider that the fetus was not adequately anesthetized and to present the hypothesis that fetus under the second trimester of pregnancy may indeed feel pain."
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    Remifentanil is a heavy-duty pain killer. Plus, fentanyl was administered to the fetus herself/himself. Sevoflurane is the anesthetic gas (derivative of ether) used to "knock you out". These agents cross the placental barrier. Still, the baby in-utero went bradycardic (heart rate slowed) when the procedure would have caused pain to a living/feeling being.

    Call me an old softy, but I wouldn't boil a kitten.
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  6. watcherchris

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    Olde Geezer....I must have missed this one up above some time ago...but just caught it today ...


    LOL LOL LOL LOL ....unbaptisms....lol lol lol....don't worry ...even many Christians will be dumb sufficient to be intimidated by this one...


    Do you know of this passage from the Book of Jude???? I think this is verse 9...only one chapter in Jude.

    Now whom do you suppose got the body of Moses?????

    These people are worried about baptism...and even Christians can be intimidated by this stuff...

    Once you know it does not even make good nonsense.

    For we are saved by Blood...not by Baptism.....and not just any blood....but the Blood...the One Blood.

    Talk about some stupid stupid people.....even many Christians can be incredibly stupid....and their ministers often keep them stupid.


    You have to be an incredibly stupid ..but highly educated idiot to define one's self by ones sexuality/Sexual Orientation.....for only today's education can dumb someone down so well.

    No thinking, educated, disciplined individual defines who and what they are by their sexuality or sexual orientation. That is incredibly stupid.

    For thinking, educated, disciplined people are so much much much more than sex and sexualty....sexual orientation.

    Only an Ishmaelite can be this naturally and giftedly stupid and proud of such stupidity and think they have license to hold everyone else in bondage to this non standard....a base standard.

    Such an person is no better than a base animal....entitled...

    And I have met LGBT XYZ, or whatever they call themselves next year, who understand this line of thinking.

    But someone needs the rest of us dumbed down and intimidated ....with this kind of bravo Sierra.

    Even this Bravo Sierra about unbaptism.....incredible.....the stupidity....going on out here.

    Wow....Ishmaelites run wild....needing the rest of us dumbed down.


    Now think this through ....if these people are that naturally stupid....how stupid do you think todays leadership is ...catering to this kind of poor nonsense????

    Did this not at one time ...was it not called... "Natural Man???"


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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    1. Old Geezer
      This article and others demonstrate the heat of the insanity going on. The Left is not only "out of the closet", they are out of their minds. The Left goes nuts, the Right reacts, ... . This viscous circle is fanning the flames of war. Past differences now take the form of there being two separate nations. This is a permanent, non-repairable, chasm. Urban dwellers have zero respect for those who grow their food and provide them the energy to generate the electricity upon which they are dependent. Heartland dwellers think the people in the cities have lost their sanity.
       
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  7. watcherchris

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    Agree..Olde Geezer.....carefully cultivated..and or crafted insanity.

    No ability to solve real issues and or problems but maximum ability to manufacture insanity and or chaos.

    Now that is what I call real genuine leadership.

    I see now why they had to get rid of Trump.

    As I am often want to state..................


    Give me the name of the father of insanity....chaos....confusion....


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  8. watcherchris

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    More insanity...while beating the false drums of overturning Roe VS Wade....talk about a bunch of stupid people.

    What none of the MSM and or leadership is telling us is that by sending Roe VS Wade back to the individual States...this puts female guaranteed votes in jeopardy. What the left is afraid of is losing so many female votes.

    Roe vs Wade is a vote buying scheme...government subsidizing female sexuality by financing abortion/Planned Parenthood et al....guarantees how many women will vote. A sexual government financed security blanket for votes.

    The American Public has no business subsidizing women's sex lives for votes on the public purse.

    Have all the abortions women want...they just have to pay for them....between them and their insurance companies or pay out of pocket.

    These people are going ballistic...bouncing, ricocheting off walls..across this country.


    The American taxpayer has no business subsidizing women's sex lives for votes.....masquerading as for the health of the woman. What a scam....

    Yet no one in the MSM wants to call it for what it really is...amongst all the rabid emotions.

    Rabid emotions is the first clue...like withdrawals of someone on serious drugs.

    Talk about a public dumbed down....big time..dumbed down.


    Oh.....and I could not find Abortion listed in my Constitution...Bill of Rights and or the Declaration of Independence.

    Once again....why is it that Hollywood...knows better than the rest of America on this issue...like so many other issues.???


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    Watcherchris
     
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  9. Old Geezer

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    If I am "rabid" about anything, then it is pro-Constitution. Why would I be otherwise in my beliefs?!

    As far as I know, America has NO iron curtain. If people wish to leave this place and live in some socialist paradise, then they are excruciatingly able to do so. Lord knows folk like me will not stand in their way. Shoot, I'll chip-in a $20 bill to aid them in their journey.

    I read that Europe needs techies, needs the university educated. OK! There you go. Live in a socialist paradise. Hurrah! America being evil and all. Goodbye! Ta-ta! Abschied! Arrivederci!
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  10. watcherchris

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    I am not anti abortion per se....

    I just do not believe that the rest of America needs be held financially hostage because of someone else's sex life.

    Someone here is lying and deceiving Americans big time on this one and bending Americans over the financial table without any foreplay...pardon the crudity.

    What this is ...is a federal government/public sponsored security blanket for women ...for their votes...

    Yet no one wants to so declare....when it becomes obvious.


    Is someone out there in "Equality.....Equal opportunity ...representation of the law..." offering to so subsidize the male/men's sex lives for votes????

    You see???


    Remember now ....this is 2022....women are now equal......so why do they need to be subsidized??? They need to have equal risk in the name of Equality...not Equity. Understand the difference now???

    This type of confusion is how a political social predator works!!!! And then they have the gall to substitute Equity for Equality.

    All while deliberately dumbing down the American People and our famous MSM is in on it...so too...most of sports.

    The NBA declares war on pro-lifers (msn.com)

    Notice what is not in such articles...women should be able to make their own decisions...about their bodies...but who is going to pay for them. The pay for them part is missing...never discussed.

    If you want to have sway over your own body ..be responsible for it....pay for it....between you and your doctor and or your insurance company or out of pocket. Not have the public pay for it.

    Subsidies for votes.

    The fervor one sees over this is evidence of a devout and zealous religion at work...one which is being left undefined.

    Remember....women in 2022 are now equal...this means equal responsibility...equal risk.....not equal options while someone else bears the costs....subsidies.

    Female Votes are in jeopardy here...this is why the religious fervor....zeal....and our media and leadership lies to us here.

    Be Warned these Ishmaelites who would lie to us about most things happening out here.


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  11. watcherchris

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    Olde Geezer...

    I too am very Constitutional....and know the reasons historically for Separation of Church and State....the fourth Amendment...so to the fifth...and 2nd...and third....et al...

    And today this is often clouded over or not even taught to us in hopes that we become dumbed down....and it appears to be very effective...keeping Americans dumbed down..

    One of the most dangerous Americans is a knowledgeable Constitutionalist serving on a jury....not just in a voting booth.

    Ishmaelites work very well with a dumbed down populace.


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  12. watcherchris

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    About science...the devout and zealous religion of science.....hell bent sometimes on even replacing common sense.

    Remember who and what pays for much of science today....government does.

    Be careful that government..using and misusing science to back it up....does not replace equity for equality and then before you know it.....they are declaring....

    A long time ago.....in a galaxy far far away!!!!!!.....................................................................as the new government religion.


    I am not against science...but be careful what kind of whores are financing much of science....social/political whores....who would sell our very souls for more power and control over the herd.


    Be Warned these Ishmaelites ...even in science financed and controlled by Government.

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    Lonewolf.....I just re read this from page 1 of this thread...interesting point you have made here..


    Now this lonewolf...very very interesting....very interesting.


    Think and or re think about this from a historical aspect here of a more common government policy called "Democide." Death by Democracy...death by ones own government.

    Democide is what logical, reasonable, educated, intelligent, illuminated men do to each other...particularly in the time of a very devout and zealous religion called Science...or if you prefer...."Scientific Government." The government of reasonable men..

    Democide...Wiki...

    Democide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (zubiaga.org)

    R. J Rummel...

    What religion are you talking about here??....no matter what one wants to claim....,about religion causing so many wars...262 million people in about 100 years is a lot of people. What is the name of this religion lonewolf....running rampant and rabid in the last 100 years:???

    Notice how this facet and information is missing from most news and or public education taught to us today.

    Remember ...something lonwolf...the last 100 years is the time of science...intellect..reasonable men...running things...yes??? What religion is this running things in the last 100 years of history...what is the name of this devout religion lonewolf...??? I would verily like to know it's name...the religion of wise men....the religion of science....the religion of reasonable men..intellects and enlightened people????

    I think it is often referred as Humanism...is it not????

    I suggest you find out what the real religion is of most politicians and or leadership is in this world.....and recalibrate what you are thinking and or taking for granted.

    R. J. Rummel would greatly differ with you.

    Don't worry...the average American is dumb as a box of rocks on this one too...and leadership would prefer we be kept dumb...but not all of us.
    I put no faith in the United Nations.....for much of this death has happened on the watch of the fabled United Nations....what a cesspool of hot gas. Same with the olde League of Nations...hot gas.

    Be warned these Ishmaelites.

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