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Discussion in 'Finding, Identifying, and Preparing Food' started by Sourdough, Sep 3, 2019.

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  1. poltiregist

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    As we watch the supply chain collapse across the globe we are already seeing nations following in the footsteps of Venezuela .
     
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  2. lonewolf

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    Globalization means buying goods from abroad cheaper than you can make them in the home nation, whilst this might make sound financial sense it does not make the home country resilient from supply chain collapses.
    on a personal level we can at least try to source goods from as near to home as possible, the more local the better, that way we can help home nation providers to survive.
     
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  3. poltiregist

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    Another country of failed leadership
     
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  4. Max rigger

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    My local Tesco were out of stock of Wensleydale cheese, had to make do with Feta.......sign of things to come.
     
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  5. poltiregist

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    A video well worth watching . The unprepared will find a grim future .
     
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  6. lonewolf

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    foreign muck, I wonder what the food miles on that is, nothing wrong with good old Cheddar, made in the Westcountry.
     
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  7. lonewolf

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    the unprepared wont/dont have a future.
     
  8. Max rigger

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    Worse last week, no Mascapone and a tub of Phili just ain't the same in a cheescake, countries gone to the dogs.

    These are worth having in the cupboard, its really good for a canned cheese

    http://marketurk.co.uk/en/product/index/92/pinar-turkish-feta-cheese-400-gram
     
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    Noticing food shortages and empty shelves in my area and the stores spreading things out and removing shelves to camouflage the lack.

    Dale
     
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  10. lonewolf

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    you'd better stock up on Cheddar, with the shortages and lack of drivers/workers you wont be able to get imported stuff soon.
     
  11. Max rigger

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    I put 10x400g blocks of mature in the freezer not long ago ;)
     
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  12. lonewolf

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    I get a couple of blocks every 4 weeks and I build up a bit of a stock that way, but my main freezer is for meat.
     
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    For some reason, missing hikers in America keep coming up in my YouTube feed. It baffles me how some of the missing actually go missing. In particular, the first case in this YouTube video, a Dr McGrogan, who by all accounts seemed very "prepared". Thoughts?

     
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  14. poltiregist

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    Judging by the photo I get the impression that guy was not in good physical condition . My guess is he overestimated his physical ability . On some cases of missing persons they may have experienced a sugar drop through physical exertion . The results of a sugar drop is loss of memory and finally death . I have experienced a sugar drop a time or two and know in such instances , I have not known my phone number or wife's name . --- My grandfather went on a walk in the woods and experienced a mental failure . He thought he might have had a stroke but now I believe he had a simple sugar drop . --Blitz I am glad to here from you .
     
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  15. Blitz

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    Gidday poltiregist.

    Yeah, I've been pretty slack of late. Thought it would be interesting to see what posts are circulating after the mayhem with Israel/Hamas. As depressing as it is. Hence my return.

    I agree with the bloke who looks somewhat overweight and unfit. Looks like he spends the majority of his time behind a desk.
    The doctor dude looked in good physical condition and well prepared though. Having a snow board or whatever you call them also tells me he's an active bloke who isn't inexperienced in the snow. Well, most probably. Unless he just bought it and has never used one before. At any rate, he's primarily the one I can't get my head around.

    One thing I did notice with all cases, is people go missing when someone separates from a group or person. I would have thought it was common sense to stay with another person. But what do I know. I was fortunate enough to have a husband who was very cluey, being a para. I took it for granted and never had to worry about anything when we went bush. The only thing he was insistent on was me being able to navigate and drive out of a dicky situation (if he had an accident, for example). So I shouldn't be so judgemental. Slap me now!
     
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    You'd think something like that would be common sense. I would, anyway. Unless it's a cost thing. Or maybe they think they're capable enough?
     
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  18. lonewolf

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    I never put too much reliance on technology, it will fail at the worst possible time, I prefer a paper map and a compass.
     
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    Technology is great. Until it fails. I must admit, in the years we used GPS, the only problem we sometimes encountered was a lack of satellites when driving in extremely thick bush. This didn't happen often and you could always pick up the signal once you got to a clearer area. But as previously mentioned, I would never attempt to drive off-road without adequate maps.

    When the shite hits the fan, in military scenarios anyway, I believe one of the first things they screw with is the accuracy of location via GPS for non-military. Not sure how correct this is now but that's what I was lead to believe.
     
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  20. lonewolf

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    I quite believe that last part.
     
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  21. Blitz

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    Yes, I think it's possible. My husband was pretty open to it. He reckoned they could stuff around with satellite accuracy, which he said to ensure I read maps properly!
     
  22. Old Geezer

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    Cutting to the chase, most who imagine themselves hikers, are anything but prepared. Too, Americans anyway, are massively out of shape. They imagine that they are in shape, but that's only in their mind, not a reality with their body.

    People don't prepare for the cold. They get wet. They die.

    They take no ropes no gloves, yet hike in the mountains. Gravity gets the better of many. Gravity is unforgiving. I'll leave the rest to your imagination.

    Some day-hikers figure they'll get back before nightfall / temperature-fall. Oops.

    People will hike alone and not tell people they've gone hiking. Don't tell others when they'll be back. Oops.

    Plus, there's a bunch of psychos out there. Decades ago, 4 teenage girls were hiking a long section of the Appalachian Trail in counties adjacent to my home county. A couple of psycho-evil rednecks beat the hell out of them and raped them. Don't go out there unarmed. The regional state's prosecutor said that he couldn't tell people to go armed, that would be in violation of his office; he said that he'd never head out there without a weapon himelf. I've got a bunch of stories about strange people out there in wilderness areas. I've hiked out in "them thar hills" innumerable times. Up and down the mountains. We'd go in crews. Girls would take me along to have a male friend. I never thought of myself as being any kind of guard. Maybe I was (?, I was too skinny back then, good shape but skinny). Back in those Hippie days, hiking involved "wacky weed" and other foolishness.

    I'm never without a lock-blade knife on me. People hike without a knife, without fire-starting equip, without any rain-ponchos, without without without . Without a mind -- that's what gets people missing ... forever.

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  23. Blitz

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    I had no idea people were so daft. Especially living in snow, year after year. Surely they had some bloody idea?

    A lock-blade knife? Is that like a switch blade? They are totally illegal in Australia. In actual fact, carrying a knife in public is totally illegal here. True story. A couple of weeks ago, a bloke was arrested for walking a couple of blocks with a knife, (from his new property, to a property he was vacating) which he was going to use to scrap off adhesive left by removing a doorbell he had originally installed on the property he had just vacated. Yep. I kid you not.
     
  24. lonewolf

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    I have heard so many "preppers" say they will just go and live in the woods post SHTF, if you tried that around here you'd be up to your knees-if not your crotch- in slimy wet mud! and you certainly wouldnt be pitching a tent on it.
    that knife thing is the same here, walking around with more than a 3 inch bladed locking knife "could" get you arrested without a valid work reason, not around here it wouldnt but in the city it would.
    its not illegal to own one but carrying one without a valid reason is.
     
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  25. Blitz

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    I can't imagine having to live in a bloody tent over here, for any length of time with a wife and 4 kids. Unless you've got one of these glamping set-ups and a shite load of money. Geez. I remember many years ago when we went camping on the Murray River in Victoria, to be the support for a friend who was doing a canoe charity thing.

    Flocking hell. It was 42 degrees. We were camped on the side of the Murray (horrible river, by the way. Thick, dirty, too steep to access from the bank, and full of rats and branches and Christ only know what else. You couldn't swim in it to get cool. Well, I suppose you could but we weren't game) in this God forsaken town called "Murrabit"and it was the first and only time I saw my husband lose his cool. The flies were absolutely horrendous. I bought the last of the insect repellent from a small local shop, which had next to no effect on these insiduous little bastards, having already expelled one full can, and the heat was un-freaking-bareable. We also had 2 German Shepherds with us. Poor bloody things. Never again. My husband did his stack, started packing up, and said: "right, that's it. We're leaving". The canoe comp had finished and he'd had enough. We hightailed it out of that horrible place, never, ever to return.

    It's going to be 35 plus over the next few days where I live. I've already got the air-con on, all the blinds shut to keep the heat out. Then I think of these poor families with small kids having to be living in a cramped tent, complete with bloody snakes, lizards, flies, mozzies and whatever else is lurking indefinitely. No. I don't think so. Flock that for a game of soldiers.
     
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  26. Blitz

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    You actually reminded me of a news article on the box I saw the other day, regarding the sale of knives in QLD. I think they said the gov is going to make it illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to purchase any type of knife (including butter knives, camping store knives, for example). Could have the age wrong. I'll have to check. But. Yeah. They're trying to eliminate knives from the scenario. A bit like the gun control. What are they going to do next, if scumbags then take to using sticks and branches to beat the shite out of someone? Ban trees? It's all a bit surreal. Flock me.
     
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  27. Old Geezer

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    We grammar school aged boys always carried a pocket knife and a cigarette lighter.

    Kids worked the gardens. As a boy, I did yard work and picked the cherry trees for the elderly.

    In the fall, kids picked, stringed and cracked the beans -- there was corn to be shucked and all manner of other chores. When my paternal grandmother was canning, I was her go-for boy. In the spring, the kids helped break the soil and plant the gardens. Long before I was age 18, I'd come to know the pick, the sledgehammer (busting the limestone rocks), and the roto-tiller very well. As a boy I shoved the coal into the furnace hopper.

    If one is perpetually tender to children, they'll never grow up. They won't even know what the word "responsibility" means. In the real world, if you can't take care of yourself, then you're dead.

    It is my sincere hope that fat socialist Western governments die and are replaced by lean Freedom-loving administrations. This is tough, Liberty means individual responsibility. As a human, you can't have both Liberty and Security. It's one or the other. Whoever protects you, owns you.
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  28. Blitz

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    Very, very true.

    I'm so glad I don't have small children now. When my son was growing up, he learned how to use knives, machetes, etc, from a young age and was very adept in the bush. I can't imagine how kids are going to turn out in the next 10 or 20 years down the track. Everything is sliding, slowly, slowly, so the braindead don't notice.
     
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  29. Old Geezer

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    Many folk here in the USSA are pulling their children out of government schools and putting them in schools run by religious organizations or home-schooling them. We had our kids go to public schools, a private school, and one parochial school. Two or three low-breed teachers turned our oldest into a school-hater. He was far more intelligent than them, but then that's not exactly any sort of compliment.

    "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."
     
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  30. lonewolf

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    any fool can live in a tent in the warm summer months but they will be dropping like flies once the colder winter comes, they wont last long if they cant dry out their wet clothes and what do they do for food once all their supplies are gone? not much grows around here in the winter and the animals are hard to find.
    in any case I cant see many modern women living in a tent for long, they'd break their pretty nails , maybe a holiday for a week but even that is probably not on.
    as for banning knives how do I cut my block of cheese without a knife or spread butter on my bread? stupid idea.
     
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  31. lonewolf

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    if you have a bar of metal and a file you can probably fashion a sort of knife so banning them wont work.
    ever heard of a prison shiv? even in strict circumstance its possible to make a knife.
    even a spear only needs a sharpened tree branch hardened in a fire. crude but it works.
     
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  32. Blitz

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    The gov in QLD Aus is trying to stop young morons getting their hands on knives because knives are now the preferred method for inflicting violence. What gets me though is ... all they need to do is bring a knife from home. Makes no sense whatsoever. As usual, the minority suffer. I mean, seriously. A teenager can't go into a camping store and purchase a knife for cutting ropes, gutting fish or whatever? Especially as in Australia, outdoor pursuits are a national pasttime. Especially in QLD.

    Absolutely, mindboggingly ridiculous. Not all teenagers are dropkicks.
     
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  33. poltiregist

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    --- Here it is guys , this off-grid couple eat healthy home grown food and on this video you can see how healthy they are and their energy level . Yep that is how it is with rural homesteaders , we just dance and carry on such truck all the time . In case some do not recognize these two - This is the " YouTube producers that go under the moniker " Off grid with Doug and Stacy " .
     
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    --- This link is a video on food and health , which is put out by our dancers on the link that I posted above this one .
     
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  35. lonewolf

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    apart from the Muslim extremists who prefer machetes most crime in the UK is knife crime, a young mother was knifed to death yesterday in Bradford, in West Bromwich -near Birmingham- a 15 year old was knifed to death. anyone can buy a knife in a supermarket and as you say Blitz most knifes are taken from the family kitchen.
     
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      The stupidity is trying to ban the "Weapon" instead of dealing with the people that commit the crimes. Free room and board is a stupid way to deal with killers.
       
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  36. Max rigger

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    You can't buy a 'bushcraft' knife on ebay UK, if you try and order from ebay USA ebay block the purchase but, you can buy serrated edged steak knives so where's the sense in that.
     
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    There is none, it's a case of Nero fiddling while Rome burns. Looks good on the PR but no substance or action to support it.
     
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  38. lonewolf

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    especially as most knife crime happens in London- not all of it but most of it- and Sadiq Khan is more interested in photo opportunities and taxing the motorist than solving crime.
    if you want to buy a bushcraft knife go to one of the bushcraft events or the woodland events and buy one in person from the seller.
     
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  39. Old Geezer

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    Under the category of food

    It really concerns me that while the UK is importing food, thousands / tens of thousands of migrants are streaming-in. If your cities collapse and die, that's one thing. But seeing the burden shifted onto the Heartlands of England is yet another. That angers me. I hope you all dispose of them.

    Post SHTF, here in the States, the cities will fail and die, but the heartlands will still produce food. Heartlanders have zero respect for the urbanites, so if they spill out of the cities like locusts looking for food, they'll be "dealt with." We are armed and know how to use our firearms.

    What with the tens of millions of migrants, we'll work them on farms if mechanized farming takes a hit. If the migrants become a problem, we are armed, have millions of combat veterans, and will thus wipe-out the trouble-makers. This one reason why the Democratic Party wishes to disarm the citizenry -- to protect their legions of illegal migrants who will illegally vote for them prior to the coming collapse. Post collapse, it is the intent of the socialists to declare martial law. That will fail, big-time. Post WWII, Italian citizens displayed Mussolini's body hanging from a meat hook. Heartland Americans have that same attitude.

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  40. poltiregist

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    I have been preparing my garden for weeks . I will be back at it Shortley . So for today I have been holding off getting into the garden , as my 14 year old granddaughter wanted to join me working in garden activities , today . Perhaps she will learn a few things about gardening that may help her as the food crisis deepens . Today harvesting mustard greens and side dressing potatoes is on the schedule . --- Unless something changes next weekend is the big planned " P day " / planting day . The farmers almanac says this approaching weekend is optimal for planting above ground crops / the moon is right .
     
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  41. Old Geezer

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    I didn't teach my kids enough about gardening.

    When a kid, I worked the yards and veggie gardens of parents and kin, to include some flower gardens of neighbors as required (they were elderly). Constant sunburns. Now keep getting skin cancers.

    Orthopedically, I'm getting to where I can no longer use a tiller unless paying for it big-time with resulting back and hip inflammation -- the crippling kind ... even with my taking dangerous meds. In my lifetime, I couldn't calculate the hours I spent tilling and busting clay. Busting rocks also; 19 lb. hammer, limestone. It's all caught up with me now. The orthopods (med community slang for orthopedic surgeons) put my arms back on (my right biceps had to be reattached; rotator cuff destruction bilaterally). My lower back, sacroiliacs, hips, and one knee are screwed; however, I can't take any more surgeries. This is it for me.

    It's more farmers market days now. Supporting locals is super-important.

    I'm still good with my guns. If I gotta kill something, not a problem.

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  42. lonewolf

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    my parents didnt teach me anything about gardening, what I know is all self taught by trial and error, I spent many years as a self employed gardener and most of my adult life I had an allotment of some sort just not at the moment.
    we dont need a huge space to grow veggies, in fact most stuff that is grown in gardens can also be grown in containers of various shapes and sizes or in raised beds. the important thing is to plant or sow several times in succession to ensure an ongoing supply, the worst thing is to have too much at one time and not enough time to eat it before it goes off.
     
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  43. Max rigger

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    Pre covid I'd grown nothing but have got the basics now and I'm learning all the time; my son has turned into a really keen grower and to be honest he does more than me these days in the garden / polytunnels.

    We've decided to grow all the food we plant from seed rather than plants at the garden centres. At the moment I've got several varieties of tomatoes/chili/sweet peppers/courgette/aubergines/cucumbers in 4" pots ready to plant, some in the polytunnels and some in the ground. We've got good seedlings come up on onions/carrots/turnips/cabbage/cauliflower and the early spuds are growing well. The new challenge for me this year will be food preservation, I've got all the theory now it will be a case of putting theory into practise. I'm still stocking up on items for home canning, I definitely need a much bigger dehydrator.

    Anyone here used a freeze dryer at home? They are not cheap so are they worth the investment?
     
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  44. lonewolf

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    I can get Tomato plants from a local nursery, less than 1 mile away, they are grown in a polytunnel which I dont have or the room for one.
    everything else I am growing from seed.
    I have never bottled/canned any food so thats a new one for me too.
    in the past I have kept veg I have grown in an old chest of drawers in a unheated, darkened bedroom.
     
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