Germany To Force Internet Providers To Hand Over Data, Passwords Of People Accused Of ‘hate Speech’

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  1. TMT Tactical

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    I rather feel that this was inevitable. I liked the idea that the internet was an unregulated space and available for all, but I don't see the world's governments sharing the same view.

    Try looking for the Tiananmen Square riots on Google China.
     
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  3. lonewolf

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    given Germany's past I find their definition of hate speech rather hilarious.
     
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      Worked for them just a very few years. I and bunch of old friends left that crap-culture for other careers. I have innumerable stories appertaining. I am at this moment actively suppressing my desire to spew my soul's disgust-bilge built up during the time I endured them. Southern Germans, people who were raised in mountainous regions of Deutschland, acted FAR more friendly. Further north = greater rigidity of character and less acceptance of anything done "not their way".
       
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  4. lonewolf

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    if the Labour Party had won the UK general election then you would really have seen erosion of liberty.
     
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      Earth-wise, there is a Liberty movement afoot. I wish it well. Watching what communist China is doing to protesters in Hong Kong weighs on the chest.
       
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  5. TexDanm

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    Germany is a force that just keeps rising up. They will eventually take over all of Europe. If the liberals and climate change fanatics have their way the USA won't be in a position to pull them off the backs of the French government this time...actually I don't see them as a loss too much of anybody. The French people have been poorly served by their government. Sadly they have exported their weakness to nearly all of Europe. The liberal disease is in the end a terminal problem.
     
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  6. lonewolf

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    you think Germany dosent rule Europe already? everyone knows they run the EU and when they say JUMP France asks "how high?"
     
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    That's a very good point. I do fear that, with Germany, gaining strength in Europe we may be exposed to the same behaviour again. They don't have a good track record I European diplomacy.
     
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  8. lonewolf

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    what with nationalist party's all gaining in popularity all across Europe we may see more of the same again.
     
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  9. Old Geezer

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    Meanwhile a lot of German taxpayers are getting really tired of propping up the bankrupt countries of Greece, Spain, and now the large/dead economy of Italy. News flash!: Italian banks are insolvent, totally insolvent.

    Germany wants Britain to help them prevent the collapse of the euro and thus the European Union. Were I a British taxpayer, I would be livid. There's not a word for how angry I would be.

    Here on this side of the planet, Mexico is collapsing into mayhem and uber-violence. According to the collectivists, America is now supposed to take-in the oceans of Mexican and Central American refugees. Apparently, we have unlimited amounts of tax dollars -- and too taxes can be doubled -- to pay for this Kum-Ba-Yah apocalypse.
     
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    The word of the day is "imposition". Our "betters" wish to impose their fevered fantasies upon us.

    What will be the results of such?

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  11. Old Geezer

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    Merry Christmas! Make it count!

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  12. watcherchris

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    Agree with TNT Tactical in their OP.

    I have been thinking and often stating that someone or some group out there wants to turn us Americans into Englishmen or Continentals...people with privileges granted by government or the sovereign...not from God.

    This up and coming gun law in Virginia is a textbook example of what I speak here. Privileges granted by the sovereign...not rights from God. Government moving to extend it's power over the people and thusly and further "herd" the people...limit the people.

    Labeling opposing viewpoints....or disagreement as "hate speech" is another way of extending the power of government to socially and politically "herd" their people...."censorship".....to dissolve or limit free speech....liberty...freedom. Thus "herding."

    People have to be publically educated to not recognize this "hate speech" label for the scam/censorship/herding that it is.

    It is a scam of claiming and demanding tolerance while forcing intolerance and bondage....herding.

    You are witnessing Ishmaelites at work.


    My non Ishmaelite .02,

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    https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/24/...budget-in-anticipation-of-jailing-gun-owners/


    Good morning Watcherchris,

    If a celebrant: Merry Christmas. Wishing you a Merry AND SAFE Christmas.

    ......

    The participants of the Virginia voters already spoke. These pending laws are merely the mechanical aspects of the election.

    These participants are our neighbors in the Northern Virginia Autonomous Oblast - less small population places like Fauquier County.

    All the rallies against the Governor's proposed legislation has zero significance. These rallies are really social events for personal complaints to be accepted by neighbors. The northern Virginia folks, with a few -only a few - exceptions, support the Governor.

    The above hyperlink might be only scare tactics for those who own/possess firearms. I don't know; not directly involved in this subject.
     
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    Last I heard 90% of the counties have declared themselves 2A sanctuary counties. The sheriff is the highest law official and can override the state police. They don't have enough resources to force 90% of Virginia to bend to their ways. How many National Guard or police will go against their family, friends or neighbours. I expect the governor will reconsider his position. If not there will be blood. All they have to do is hold fast in the legal system, it only takes one out of every twelve touring their laws to a screeching halt.
     
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  15. watcherchris

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    Pragmatist,

    Thanks for the consideration and I don't celebrate Christmas. Gave it up years ago and got off the treadmill but thanks for the civility and consideration.

    I too am not involved in the subject except in the pattern recognizing aspects of government gone wild.


    "Hate Speech"...a phony moniker used/misused to label and go after those who dissent or disapprove of a position....in particular.....unlimited government or absolute power/divine right of kings.
    All the time hiding behind the scam of tolerance.


    It is this same tolerant bunch of phonies who do not trust Americans to be armed. And make no mistake....it will not end with this round of gun control or safety demands.

    Any government which will not trust it's people to be armed will eventually and also not trust its people with their vote and will also rig that marketplace.

    No educated geniuses needed to translate/re translate our thoughts for us here on this.

    History is replete with these examples of people being thusly "Herded." Even manufactured into bad guys to facilitate the rise of government towards absolute power.

    It is the constant moves towards absolute power in the hands of government which concern me...in every aspect of our lives...not just gun control.....or.... cough.....gun safety.....cough!!!!

    Obama Care is another of these government scams guaranteed to raise costs to everyone forced to be in that system.

    The only factor economically guaranteed to bring down costs...is free market economic competition.

    How can college educated people in congress possibly be so stupid as to vote to kill off price lowering economic competition in health care???

    Unless their true goal all along is to "Rig the Market" in favor of government.

    I'LL translate that for the members here.....they are not the product advertised.



    Absolute Power or Divine Right of Kings was put to rest with the beheading of Charles 1st of England on January 30, 1649.

    And when our Founders looked for a historical example of a people turning on their king or leadership seeking to advance their power at the expense of the people...they found that Oliver Cromwell and the Roundheads had already settled that question....on January 30, 1649.

    And I believe that this is why we Americans are preferred to be very ignorant of real history...and instead such knowledge substituted with distractions like sports gods or the Kardashians...et al.

    I am interested in the pattern of Ishmaelites in operation seeking to put people into their form of bondage and or servitude......not just in health care or disarmament....but also grinding the people between the millstones of taxation and inflation....as governments are so historically want to do....to increase their power at the expense of the people.

    My non Ishmaelite .02,

    Watcherchris
     
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  16. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Caribou,

    Yes, about 90% of Virginia counties declared themselves sanctuaries.

    A Virginia sheriff cannot override the Virginia State Police. The Virginia legislature determines the laws and implementing regulations throughout the state.

    Those 90% of Virginia counties are mostly rural and with an overall small population. The largest Virginia county in population is Fairfax County and Fairfax supports the Governor and is Fairfax is a Democrat stronghold. Add Arlington County to the Fairfax political establishment. This is contemporary Virginia.

    The government of Virginia has more than adequate resources for exercising the laws and regulations of the Commonwealth of Virginia. There is little risk of any large volatile confrontation here. Besides large law enforcement orgs, arrangements are in place to immediately stop the check deposits eg Social Security, FIRS, DFAS, Railroad Retirement Board, the state pension checks, the city pension checks, ...

    Without electricity and access to medical care, less alone driving on Virginia roads, I cannot even envision a medium-sized volatile confrontation.

    A major weakness of Virginia - and many other states - is too many political subdivisions like counties. They are from a much earlier era. Today, even the Virginia Marine Police is a deputized Federal law enforcement organization.
     
  17. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Watcherchris,

    Ditto. I also do not celebrate Christmas. The espoused doctrines are really required to be exercised year-round but the public uses the holiday as a modern equivalent of a sports arena event. It's the "party hard" philosophy.

    Concur, Virginia's pending gun laws are just part of a pattern, a tile in a mosaic next to the hate speech tile. My favorite, although the matter I find to be disgusting, tile is the new Virginia Civil War museum. The museum allows for "community participation" in the discussions. It's absolute power with a veneer of tolerance toward historians.

    Of course the market place is already rigged. Had once researched/planned a trip to D.C. via rail from Fredericksburg. The parking lot passes at Fredericksburg are "reserved" for area residents. I see how the place is rigged.

    I do not consider those in Congress with their numerous degrees to be educated.

    Cromwell's laughing..........
     
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  18. watcherchris

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    Pragmatist,

    Verily agree...and well said.....well said!!!



    I consider many in leadership positions to be demonic in nature. Willing to barter, trade, or sell the very souls of the people of this country for further power/control....To their true masters....to internationalism.....not American principles.

    Thanks,

    Watcherchris

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  19. watcherchris

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    Pragnatist,



    I do not celebrate birthdays or any other holidays or merchandized event. I choose not to be so herded.

    As I understand the history and customs of the day...it was to give gifts to or before a king. We are not kings.

    I am not against giving gifts. I just don't participate in that annual event.


    The significance of my Lord is for whom He died and shed His Blood.....every day....and not His birth.

    Birthdays are a Pagan custom and tradition. The Hebrews had no such instruction to glorify themselves by celebrating birthdays. All days belong to Him....not us.

    And He would certainly not be honored by a day of merchandizing......considering that He chased the money changers out of the temple.


    I just decided, one day, to get out of that Ishmaelite bondage and or servitude...that treadmill..."Herding." Cold Turkey!!


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  20. lonewolf

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    off topic.
     
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  21. watcherchris

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    Lonewolf and other members,

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    Wow!!!!

    I will clarify my postings in that much of it is in the nature of describing todays very devout and zealous "Herding Techniques" used and misused by the body politic to prevent individual and independent thinking and or action.


    Christmas is one of the Big time "Herding " events in the western world. I merely chose to step off that "Herding " treadmill and so stated my reasons for it.

    Apparently this gives offence in this very tolerant world.


    With that kind of tolerance in mind I am going to make a point about "Demonic Herding" and one for which most out here would never have thought possible....and yet right in front of them daily.

    Our Founders here in America created a Biblical System of "Just weights and measures" in the Coinage Act of April 2, 1792.

    There was a sensible rationale to the arrangement of the coinage in gold, in silver and also in copper coins.

    In silver, newly minted, two half dollars equaled the weight of a dollar...and so too four quarters, ten dimes, and so too twenty half dimes.

    The same rationale followed suit in the gold as well as the copper coinage....it made sense....once one knew or was properly taught about weights and measures.

    Now today....under intelligent, gnostic, wise, college educated, scientific men running things we have privily and secretly switched to a system of unjust and un Biblical weights and measures. Proof of this is that our government has now issued a Susan B. Anthony dollar which is two thirds the size and weight of the half dollar and made of the same metal.....yet claims to be worth twice as much.

    The coins say on them.... "In God We Trust."

    When did The United States Government switch to the god of unjust weights and measures and not tell anyone they had so done??? The liar and deceiver,,,also known as the counterfeiter. Switched to a system of unjust weights and measures??

    When did they do this and why...and not tell anyone they had so done???


    And what is the name of this very devout and zealous religion which would justify such an lie on the very labors and risk taking of a nation and people in their daily lives and in favor of government herding???

    This is not just being done by the US Government but internationally. Systems of unjust weights and measures....Herding.

    Or is such an concept and thinking pattern too deep for most of the members here and thus "off topic??"

    "Herding."


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    Watcherchris
     
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  22. lonewolf

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    whats holidays got to do with German internet providers? that's what was off topic.
     
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  23. watcherchris

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    Sorry Lonewolf...but I have difficulty believing you even posed such an question.

    Watcherchris

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  24. lonewolf

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    keep to the thread titles, if you want to talk about holidays start a new thread.
     
  25. watcherchris

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    Lonewolf,

    Ok ….You say so!!!

    Historically...the main goal of most governments has been to keep and maintain their power over the people....Herding. This has taken various forms over the centuries commensurate with the fashion and or technology of the day.

    Often it also takes the form of catering to various holidays or if you prefer...holydays...in it's root.

    Historically when governments get involved in it...soon enough it becomes an instrument to curry public favor..translated ...votes....again herding....but for votes...or power.

    The topic line on this thread is again another textbook example of governments and their Ishmaelite herding of their people.....bondage.

    In herding....what it amounts to...and will wax worse and worse..as governments require more and more power and control...is that some people will be required and or made to do certain conducts which are against their principles...their beliefs.

    One of these chief indexes to observe in herding....is rapidly becoming liberty in speech. And here we see the Ishmaelites in the German government moving rapidly now to ferret out any competition to their need for increased power. The German people will, over time, become " competitors " against government largess and need for more Ishmaelite power, control, and bondage over their own people.

    There is a reason that here in America these are included in the manner done in Amendment 1 of our Constitution.

    This changes significantly and historically when ones government has plans to increase it's power to Ishmaelite proportions to reach their goals at public expense. The public historically finds themselves becoming a competitor against government.

    In otherwords....more and more herded....herding.

    It does not take rocket material to see that over time...peoples religion will fall under this Ishmaelite quest for more herding/power. And with that will come their holidays/holydays. Open government discrimination..favoring a certain belief systems over others. It is already happening is certain western nations.

    It does not matter to me as I celebrate none of them. But make no mistake......the herding by government will continue. For Ishmaelites know how to do nothing else but herding...bondage,,,in their rabid quest for absolute power.

    Be warned this pattern in the operations of the Ishmaelites. Make no mistake...this is a government religion at work...seeking to "herd/limit" the people of these nations. And someone will, at some time, attempt to do this in America and overthrow our bill of rights,,in every aspect of our lives.

    Ishmaelites can do no better.

    My non Ishmaelite .02,

    Watcherchris
     
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    Did some surfing this morning, after my coffee and breakfast, to find this very interesting article by a fellow named Tucker Carlson and for which I have been saying and posting in its basic outline and for sometime now the conduct of Ishmaelites in both phony political parties in the USA.

    I have bookmarked this article for future reference as this view is one so seldom heard among educators or the MSM itself..and thus I find it very refreshing to hear someone else voicing it.

    Hope the members find it useful in stoking their thinking apparatus in the future....and in Identifying how the zealous and devout religion of politics sleeping with a phony MSM leaves the American People wanting by design,,,misrepresentation….not the product advertised.

    Note what Tucker implies about free speech.


    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...gop-changing-under-trump-but-not-fast-enough/


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    Good afternoon Watcherchris,

    Had a good time reading the Tucker Carlson article.

    Important: "People vote for politicians to make their lives better". I am confident for a Trump second term because he knows and expresses the implications of open borders. He knows and will soon explain the the consequences of "tax the rich" and "corporations". I'm looking forward to the public material on the "Green New Deal". It's not discussed as yet but pending is a public confrontation in re late term abortions. Our Governor Kiwi supports post-birth abortions. Wait ;till opt-out organ donations confronts Virginians. "Free speech" on US campuses is a pending big subject.

    Trump has the answers and plans to address these matters.

    Love it ! "[conservatives] are very good at wineing. In our Virginia election only weeks ago, the Democrat Party had the largest under 30 year old voter participation. The results are in and the opposition complaints are thick.

    I remember Northwest Orient Airlines.

    Former House Speaker Eric Cantor is a local (VA 7 CD, nice area of Richmond toward Shenandoah Valley).

    Full Disclosure: I am not a conservative. I am a libertarian.
     
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    Thanks for your reply Pragmatist.

    I am a conservative. I am not a Republican. I don't trust the Republicans or the Democrats. I don't trust either of those two phony parties. I think they are working together on a Hegelian Dialectic against the American public.

    Thesis ..Antithesis...Synthesis.....but always moving the country steadily left by design...and at the expense of the peoples liberties and freedoms.

    AKA.....Good Cop/Bad Cop.

    When controlled and filtered through a phony MSM and public education....few notice that they are both Cops.

    I think that someone or some group has been playing Good Cop/Bad Cop using Russia and the USA in this dialectic for years now and they are still trying to play on it in the impeachment to string along the American People....herd them. Thinking that these whores and pimps cannot change their spots.
    These groups have been doing this for so long that I think they bought into their own propaganda by 2016. They were not prepared for Trump.

    It is going to get nasty and disgusting in it's desperation by 2020.

    And they have since been desperately trying to "Herd" the American People back where they need them.

    Make no mistake...this is a devout religion in this kind of entitlement politics. Royalty/Feudalism.
    And it can get deadly.

    But I appreciate what Tucker is trying to say. Wondering how long he will last at Fox News??


    Concerning late term abortions...or any abortions on the public purse.

    This is devolved into a vote buying scheme on the public purse..or put simply …funding someone else's sex life for votes....the female vote.

    And whorish politicians know that the feminine will mostly vote for security at someone else's expense...not their own.

    This is verified now by the move for contraception on the public purse for votes in one of the last elections. They are buying the female/feminine vote.

    Keep abortion...just not on the public purse.

    Someone hidden and concealed out here is screwing the American voter/taxpayer without any foreplay. Pardon the crudity...but this needs to be made clear to Americans...thinking Americans….not emoting Americans.

    This is often how Americans are so herded...by them not knowing the bigger picture.
    How they are put into bondage and lose their liberties and freedoms to the overly emotional.

    This is why I am not a Republican. The Republican Religion is to be silent on their side of the dialectic...and thus aid in the steering to the left.



    Organ donations...opt out...Wow. More herding to meet the needs of someone not wanting to be seen or known.

    Yes...I think that one will have the cards held very close until the trap will be sprung.

    Ishmaelites at work...again.




    Thanks,
    Watcherchris

    Not an Ishmaelite
     
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