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  1. Sourdough

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  2. Keith H.

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    This is what we need in Australia, this is what it is going to take worldwide if we are going to survive global warming. Maybe this is the problem, these people have so little that there is a limit to their tolerance, here people have too much & they don't give a damn about anything but themselves.
    Keith.
     
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  3. poltiregist

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    Venezuela now Haiti , Yellow shirts in France , Brexit , China's economy going down the tubes ,The video tried to put US policy partially to blame and I agree . Not all of the countries I just mentioned but several have been taken off the US tit and now the howling has begun . I suspect with Trump in charge for six more years in office we will see this escalate . The US economy is doing great , but The parasites of the US ain't happy .I may have just made some folks mad again but please feel free to correct me .
     
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    If I was a younger man, I would leave America. I think Western Europe, is going to rapidly abandon USA, and rapidly drift towards Russia-China alliance. Western Europe has nearly zero fuel, and what they do have will be exhausted in 8 to 11 years. Russia has the fuel and the massive natural resources.

    When the U.S. dollar looses its reserve status, and it is rapidly, we will have massive inflation and rioting. America is done, and it will require decades of hell till there is a new something where America now exists.

    I have long predicted that Alaska will soon not be part of America.
     
  5. Old Geezer

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    The isle of Hispaniola is composed of two countries, Haiti on the west side and Dominican Republic on the East. If one looks down on the island from satellite or space station, the Haitian side of the island is denuded and the side belonging to the Dominican Republic is lush with life.

    The Haitians are unable to maintain a civilized society. They have a history of perpetually killing each other. Without cohesion, they will surely perish. During various phases of human evolution, some groupings died off. Some will perish within the next century. Even us old folk may see such.
     
  6. Old Geezer

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    I'd rather live in Hell than Europe or Britain. Liberty & individual freedom or death. Government toadies fear free armed Americans and they should. I have zero qualms about fighting to the death.

    Personally, I'm itching to watch our anti-God cities burn. Our military will stand and I'll support them in doing so. If the police continue to side with the U.S. Constitution, I'll be on their side. Shoot, if they need ammo, I'll actually hand over ammo to them. I've taken water to firefighters. I support nobility, honor, and faithfulness. May the collectivist blob perish eternally.
     
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  7. Old Geezer

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    The Chinese are followers. They will always seek regimentation. It is said that the Chinese army is the people's army. What sh##!!!!

    (Our military is able to recruit volunteers. Some are in it for a buck, sure. More than that are committed to service.)

    The BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) are attempting to put together their own alternative to the U.S. Dollar as world reserve currency. Gold-producing Russia is actually buying gold as is communist China. This is far beyond bizarre unless they are building a new currency. If they succeed, then that will be a big step in the journey of the dollar to its inevitable death.

    Welfare state America is broke. The European Union is broke. Tick tick tick ...
     
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    The Haitians fight each other, which leads to poverty, which leads to fighting, which leads to poverty, which ....

    This is how entire peoples spiral down the drain into oblivion.

    When America got finished with the Chinese rail workers, they were told to go back home or just die. Many Chinese were killed by the Anti-Chinese Leagues. Yet the Chinese stuck together and bettered themselves. Today, Chinese Americans are our "curve busters". I've worked with numerous people who were a mix of Asian and European blood lines. They impressed me as possessing an absulutely wonderful genetic profile; intelligent, healthy, not followers but self-starters. There are bad apples in every basket, however this is one superior basket. Maybe there's some hybrid vigor going on.
     
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    I had the chance to move to New Zealand in 1989, I had traveled that country extensively, and had decided where I wanted to live there.. The Kiwi People are wonderful people. The country is socialist, NOT communist, but a socialists government and socialist based economy.

    New Zealand is superior to Alaska, and coming from me that is saying a lot.
     
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  10. Old Geezer

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    As the people of a country become less self-sufficient, that society falls into socialism. Socialism fixes nothing and the national and public debt heads for the stratosphere. As things continue to collapse the country descends into communism, which inevitably grows cancerous. After that, the military or organized crime (witness Vladimir Putin) takes over. Might makes right.
     
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    Nearly all forms of government if they are true to their originating ideals is pretty good. The thing is that they ALL immediately fall prey to the facts of human nature and begin to devolve into anarchy and an aristocracy where most have nothing and a few have everything. Socialism, Communism or Capitalism it is all the same in the end. The problem is not with the differing political philosophies it is the nature of the people in the system that never changes. The most stable long term governing system is one that starts off with a ruling aristocracy that has a vested interest in keeping MOST of its people fairly well fed and content. It starts off where most others quickly head. Once a stable aristocracy is established it is a slow path until the aristocracy rots and eventually chaos and anarchy take it down and the cycle starts again.

    Look at history and how long the Roman Empire lasted...The British Empire ruled all over the world for centuries under their Kings and Queens. Democracy has barely survived 250 years. Russian Socialism didn't last 200 years. Chinese communism didn't last that long.

    I'm not talking about what I LIKE. I'm just commenting on what seems to be the way things work. Let's face it letting the Sheeple run things isn't working very well. The idea that stupid people, criminal people and lazy people will somehow make good choices in an election is insane! Originally these people were not allowed to vote. Slowly that has been changed and now it is to the point that you don't even need to be a citizen to vote. We don't really have a real democracy anymore. The political Aristocracy picks a couple of people and let's us vote on them. It is win win for them either way. Trump is the first and last outsider to break into that and both parties are dragging him down. It will never happen again and is the last gasp of Democracy. Trump, like him or not was elected by the people and not hand picked by the aristocracy of America.
     
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    was thinking of this thread today and ran across this video...its 2015..watch it...clearly you can see like all societies a broad brush doesnt fit all peoples.these folks in video just look at them and listen they have a totally different mindset from those we see in certain 'areas' of haiti where troubles brew and things are bad.if you use eyes to see and ears to hear you can tell what the difference truly is...enjoy the video...these folks could be my neighbor any day...industrious and driven to do and make and survive.

    look in back ground of various shots during video and see the gardens across these steep slopes.this like my area as much of our land is as steep as a horses face...lol.

    some people you give million dollars to and they be broke in a week,others you can give a hand up in form of tools,seed,fertilizer and a bit of knowledge and they take over from there.its seen in all societies across the globe.


     
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  13. TexDanm

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    Generalities are almost never applicable to individuals. The fact is that Haiti has almost always been a hell hole and recovering from that is almost impossible. Sadly there are just places on this planet that have been endlessly war torn for as far back as we have history. In some cases like Central America, the Middle East, The Balkans and South East Asia are examples of places with a geographic problem but other places seem to have a people problem. Often this overlaps the places with Geographic problems as well. Often the people from these places, even when transplanted elsewhere carry their propensity for violence with them.
     
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    this is titled on the road to food sovereignty...its from 2104..clearly some of these folks are poor by western standards but they are thriving and surviving.

     
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    a lazy slob will be a lazy slob no matter where you transplant them. industrious folks will be industrious. i have no doubt if the folks in these video were transplanted they would work hard to buy lands.tractors and equipment and live even better lives.my 2cents and opinion and we all have them.
     
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    The US became great allowing hard working people to come here and work. Now we instead try to keep them out and instead bring in loser refugees that only want our free ride and to make America just like the pestholes that they left. We NEED more workers not more people on welfare and on the streets selling drugs or backing terrorists.
     
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    Statistics apply to huge populations. On this planet, I have met golden souls from every continent, every bloodline. I've known good people who have borned daemons and evil insane parents who've brought up angels. I swear before the living God that I have witnessed that which will melt your eyebrows.

    But when it comes to populations of humans, the statistics DO apply.

    The U.S. Constitution ONLY sez, "We'll give you a chance. We'll allow you the Liberty to make it or maybe not. It is on you." Quite frankly, God gives us free will. We can do something with that, or f###-up royally. This plane of existence is not for the weak of heart, certainly not the squeamish. I've something of a heart, so this place has damaged me. I've grown, but not without having paid full retail ... times three.

    Welcome to the unpleasantness of it all.
     
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    Life, Liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness is NOT a guarantee of happiness. That requires you working and trying. The liberals want to GIVE it to people and in case you haven't noticed it the problems in the US seem to explode with violence every time we get a Liberal in the White House. ???
     
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    Haiti has a history of societal chaos.
     
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    Maybe the ex-military were doing merc-work for those wishing to restore order to the raw chaos down there in Haiti.

    During the 1992 L.A. riots, armed Korean merchants had to fend off savages to keep Korean businesses from being looted and burned as were businesses nearby. After the riots, Korean merchants paid to bring over ROK (Republic of Korea) troops, many of whom were retired, to be there in case future riots were to break out. Sometimes mercenaries are the best troop. The French Foreign Legion is a mercenary crew.

    Knew a fellow who was living in a large apartment building(s). Some of the places had porches. During the 1992 riots the line of chaos/burning/looting was just two or three blocks away and they thought that such was going to be on top of them whenever. They started BBQ-ing and drinking beer. L.A. no open fire ordinances were out-the-window for sure. Everybody who had a gun brought their guns to the BBQ. What they planned to do was that if the looting approached, they were going to open fire into the looters. I'm certain that such would have removed whatever tiny amount of courage the savage looters possessed. That story made me feel so wonderful inside and we had a big laugh!

    I think the video has been wiped from the web, however there used to be a great video of some L.A. 1992 looters, count four, who'd piled into a Detroit land-yacht 4-door sedan and were out looting and shooting. Well, the Korean merchants opened up on them. Poof! Looter "courage" GONE, gone, gone.

    Understand that when the SHTF, there are going to be many "people" go violent. If a woman has two cans of beans to feed her starving children, such "people" will beat her down and take her food.

    Thus we prepare.
     
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    old geezer....times can get tough and rough real fast.its coming here sooner or later.

    the recent chaos came after these guys were arrested...to my current understanding...this is what triggered the chaos and locals wanting "u.s.military" out of haiti.

    ibme..notice 2 of the 8 were serbians?


    i bet these guys were messing around inside cuba or were about to go into cuba and got caught up before launching.
     
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    Chaos is triggered by terminal ignorance.
     
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