How To Survive A Cold Winter

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  1. oolongmonkey

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    I live in a very cold part of the world and winters often get well below zero degrees. I believe 2 winters ago we were at -43 degrees wind chill.

    It's me, my wife and four kids. Any advice on how to stay warm in the event of a season long power outage?

    I'm a bit concerned about generators as they are loud as hell and would attract A LOT of attention.
     
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  2. Alaskajohn

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    A good wood stove can typically heat a sizable home.
     
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  3. Sourdough

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    Sleeping bags rated to -35 F below. They are cheap insurance.
     
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  4. arctic bill

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    Wood stove, I am now on my third one, What you want is a stove with the following
    1) slow burn so the fire will last all night .
    2) you wan to be able to see the fire what my friend calls the TV event .
    3) you must be able to open up the adjustable vent so that you can cook on it
    ie coffee, bacon and eggs pancakes, hamburger and hot dogs just to name a few
    4) most important be large enough to heat the hole house just, if it is too big that is not good either .
    5) have a large flat top so that you can put many large buckets of water , this will be your hot water tank or reservoir,
     
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  5. TexDanm

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    I live where it never gets all that cold so I don't have to deal with such extreme temperature differences. It is more likely that I will have to deal with 115 degree heat than subzero cold. All that said though I do have some advice to offer.

    When I was a kid there was no such thing as central heat. That meant that in the winter there were big temperature differences from room to room. The money we not as free-flowing then as now and we couldn't afford to heat every room. There wasn't a fireplace in every room and then later there wasn't a heater in every room. In the winter we tended to shut down the rooms that we didn't need to reduce the amount of heat and fuel we needed. My grandparents basically lived in two rooms in the winter. the kitchen and the big living room that also had a bed in it.

    The houses built for central heat are huge compared to the houses most people used to live in. They are also poorly designed for living in without power. I would recommend that you do as we did it the power goes off and move into a much smaller part of the house. Even now I close off the spare bedrooms during the winter. With the open concept that is now so popular that is going to be hard. There was a reason that houses used to be more separated into smaller rooms with doors.

    Where you live I might consider making a "safe" room where you can all gather and limit the heat loss and requirements. If you put enough people into a small enough area just their body heat will warm the room more than you would think. Pick an interior bedroom with as little outside wall exposure as possible and massively insulate it. Add a well-ventalated heater/stove and bedding for how many you have there with lots of blankets or good sleeping bags. If done right it will look pretty normal. The foot-thick insulated walls can look like regular walls and the room can be made into a sort of den or reading room.

    Where my family comes from we have storm shelters because of tornados. You need a cold shelter.
     
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  6. Max rigger

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    Modern houses are getting better all the time in terms of energy efficiency but overall building codes are much stricter in the UK/EU than the USA, this house I'm in is about 15 years old and its not bad, well insulated, central heating double glazing etc. Big thing now is building carbon neutral houses which you heat for pennies which I'm all in favor of. First house we had was smaller than this, Victorian and it cost a fortune to keep it warm in the winter bloody awful place and was glad to leave.
     
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  7. Overwatch

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    I can help you. Email me at HVAC.gini@gmail.com Ill explain everything you need to know. From power generation to storage of power. even home made fuel. even the noise equation
     
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  9. Dalewick

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    I lived in northern Minnesota for a couple years and it got that kind of cold. I'd recommend a good wood stove and 10 to 12 good cords of firewood. Also have a good fire extinguisher (be safe) and maintain your chimney.

    Dale
     
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  10. Alaskajohn

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    Old Geezer, that’s a whole lotta Rosie!

    :)
     
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  11. Overwatch

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    Rocket stove is better. and a burn around the place to brake the wind. Hard wood and a couple of chunks of coal
     
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  12. Overwatch

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    I know a guy in norther Ontario that owns a sand quari. He had a red brick wall 4" thick with 4 inches of sand and then brick again. the house was cool all summer and warm all winter.
     
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    lso have put heating systems in earth burn home. Boy are they eff. but moisture is a problem
     
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  14. Dalewick

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    Don't like coal for heating. The ash can cause more problems than it solves. Not to mention burning up your grate and firebrick if you let it get to hot. Hardwood is hard to get in northern Minnesota and I suspect the same for much of Canada and AK.

    Never owned a rocket stove but the one I used seemed to go through wood way faster than a buck stove or soapstone stove. I can load my soapstone stove and generate heat for 14 hours on one loading.
     
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  15. Overwatch

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    Having lived in northern Alberta for 12 years how far north makes a difference in sunlight.
    There is lots of wind most days and enough sun light. I can send you lots of how to videos on power generation including no noise.





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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85OmZU3dZpA
    The steam engin will out last any generator gas powered. It is much quieter . for days without wind. It can be powered with trash.
     
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