New Member I Did It Took To Long But Here I Am

This my first time with this so bare with me , I'm just starting to learn about what to do with my family when all goes tits up.... I need help to get us up to speed with all this and I hope I can lean on everyone to guide me though it all to teach us and live . thank you and nice to meet you all

 

Prioritize in order of necessity. The rule of 3s is a good place to start. This is my version but I'm not the originator of the idea.

3 seconds...that is how long you will have to bring your gun or weapon into play if you are attacked. If you are too slow you are dead. The quick and the dead is reality in some situations.

3 minutes...that is how long you can go without air. Learn how to swim or stay away from water. Also you might think about some form of mask. smoke or even massive dust can kill you. At least have some dust masks on hand.

3 hours...that is about how long you will live when the cold or heat starts to kill you. Shelter in a MUST. If it is cold you need shelter and FIRE. In the heat you need SHADE. Hats are a must if you are going to be in the sun.

3 days...that is about how long people live without water. You have to have it and unless you want to die you need to know how to find it and almost as important how to make it safe to drink. Bad water leads to dysentery and is just a slightly slower death than not having any water at all!

3 weeks...That is how long most people can go without food before they start to break down and starve to death. UNDERSTAND, you don't die in 3 weeks but you start staring and will die. This is important to understand. Three weeks without food makes you week but not dead. The human body is tough and food is not a major immediate priority.

3 months...Humans are not made to be alone. After 3 months most people will begin to suffer from being isolated. There is a reason why putting people in solitary confinement is a torture.

3 years...By this time if you are still just surviving you are probably a dead man walking. Surviving is stressful!! It means that you are under threat and constantly trying to be alert. As soon as possible you need to settle down stop surviving and start living. People that stay in full on survival mode for too long usually never come out of it. PTSD can happen a lot faster than 3 years but if it goes that long you are lost.

The last three goes like this and concerns the MUST have things like knives, ways to make fire and water purification...1 is NONE...2 is SOME and 3 MIGHT BE ENOUGH!!! When it comes to fire and water I usually go for overkill!

The biggest secret to survival is actually rather simple. Sit down and imagine all the things that could go wrong and then think about what you would need to survive and prosper under those conditions. FORETHOUGHT will separate the quick from the dead in a hurry. You want to be the one ACTING when something happens not the one trying to decide what to do and then just reacting without a lot of thought. I call it the "What if" game and then write down what I need and what I need to know and then find out where to get the KNOWLEDGE and the TOOLS that will allow you to survive.

 

LW, the thread is five years old

 

To a wise man, 5 years is but an eye-blink.

It takes decades and decades past age 21 to actually begin to truly understand human nature. I keep shirts longer than 5 years. One pair of boots I had lasted 30 years -- I cleaned and polished them.

The West is lost. It has become a teenager. The people do not respect their elders is but one sign of Western ignorance.

The rest of the world respects the gathering of knowledge by those who have lived many decades. American Natives, the First People deeply respect their elders. This is also true in Asian cultures.

The knowledge concerning this science or that perpetually changes. The character of Wisdom is changeless.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/cultures-where-elders-revered-pam-moorhouse

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Why should they know really. Talking to my young nephew yes they look at WW1 and WW2 and other historical era's such as Viking and Roman. Teaching history in School is more about raising historical awareness and if that triggers and interest in the pupil hopefully they'll go and learn in more depth in their own time and this applies to the majority of topics. The kids are not stupid, they learn different things than you did all those years ago, times change LW.

 

LW, not slipped, just moved on. WW2 finished in 1945, seventy eight years ago, if you were 18 in 1939 you be over 100 years old now. Kids know we had world wars and rightly so but there is simply no need for them to study it in detail.

I went to the same grammar school my father went to and he could not believe I would not be learning Latin as he had to and that I had the option to study French, German or Spanish and all he had was a French option.

Christmas I had the chance to really talk to my nephew and niece (14 and 9) when they came to Spain and truth be told I was staggered at how bright and aware they were and my own lad is the same.

 

True students of history know that WWI morphed into WWII and that we are currently morphing into WWIII.

NATO was created right after WWII. Several generals, most notably Patton, wanted to just march on to take-out the USSR communist hierarchy. He said that if we didn't do it now, i.e. 1945, that we'd inevitably have to fight Russian in the future. He knew that the USSR/Russia would become a super-power and the enemy of the West.

The medical students, physiology students, anatomy students, pharmacology students, ..., who've studied Latin are better prepared than those who have not. Wish I had.

In History studies, a couple of centuries is a blip in time.

People must know about previous centuries, previous millennia, else they are base idiots unqualified to vote.
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Ignorance seems to be somehow the chosen life style of most young people these days. LOL I imagine that has been said about every generation since man left the caves. I think that our "safe" easy lifestyle is slowly degenerating our gene pool. In the distant past the lazy or stupid starved to death during hard times and the survival rate of their offspring was abysmal.

Now we take care of them and in some ways encourage them to breed like rats. People that can't support themselves should be only allowed to have two kids PERIOD. It's ugly but just how many people with a low IQ, lack of any moral guidance, and/or a propensity for unprovoked violence do we need?

 

Sadly, these days, in the US and most first world nations, we are steadily DE-evolving or at least evolving in a different direction than in the past. NOW, the most successful from a survival point of view are the people on welfare that are popping out babies as fast as they can. Meanwhile in the middle to upper income levels the number of children born per family is steadily falling. More and more couples are choosing not to have any kids or one at the most.

Having kids that you can't support when you are ALREADY on welfare should be a felony! At the very least it is child abuse and theft. They are STEALING millions of dollars from people that work for a living. They should be either locked up or sterilized. I hate to think how many useless, stupid, lazy, people that our Grandkids are going to be saddled with to support.

 

Instead of GIVING people welfare we SHOULD give them a job. If they have kids and refuse to work when given a job we should lock them up and then after a year or two steralize them and let them out. If they still don't support their kids lock them back up and ONLY feed them in relation to their work. No work, no food. After a week if they still won't work cut off the water and then they either work or we allow them to die. No great loss...

 

Illegals from Mexico and Central America imagine that they can turn a dollar here in the States by finding jobs, legal or illegal.

 

It's illegal in America to hire illegal aliens, however tens of millions of them still get hired by legal companies and illegal operations. If Immigration Services shows up during a crop harvest, half the workers run away. Same at other "legal" businesses.

When money is involved, people will do whatever they can get by with. If there are too few cops to enforce laws, then whatever happens, happens. Most people don't "just follow the law" if the law is stupid or gets in their way. Anyway, that's how it is on this side of the Atlantic.

Most middle-class folk will follow laws if the laws make sense. Most reasonable, genetically-intact folk don't go around stealing things. That is unfair and they wouldn't want it to happen to them. We humans are wired to want to be included in a group and that involves cohesiveness behaviors. This kept our "caveman" ancestors alive -- same with other mammalian creatures. No group, you get eaten by a predator or a pack of predators; you get sick or injured, no one takes care of you until you get better. If you offend the group, you get tossed-out. If you steal from the group, you get seriously injured or killed. Caveman culture IS a culture, however brutal.

Even the uncivilized here in Amerika form packs called "gangs". Human Nature 101
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We're not loaners LW, humans learned early on the value of the tribe, the team so if it hits the fan its not a question of lone survival, the question for 99.99999% of people will be "what group will I join", thats plain logic and common sense.

Took the plunge/financial hit and the home in Spain will be off the power grid before Friday.

 

I see Church groups pulling together.

The South is a culture unto itself. Outsiders find things strange here. We are great at helping-out each other and even strangers; but when angered, can go violent quickly, and then hold a grudge for generations. Witness the pleasant phenomenon of feuds. Post SHTF, this place will shut down, circle the wagons. Outsiders will not be accepted. I still here my own say, "Damned Yankees!" The first Civil war has been over for a time now ... but not so much in the South. Those who have moved into rural Appalachia will be shunned post SHTF. High skill-set people may not be booted out, even if they have a Yankee accent.

I see the fancy houses of rich outsiders being taken-over for other uses. Those huge gaudy houses could be used for clinics, for warehousing, old folks homes, ... In the area from which I came, profoundly few slaves were owned and those who owned them didn't go to local churches. Big houses were often "coach houses", a small place for travelers to stay; tavern, beds, and a stable to take care of the horses. The mine owners had big houses.
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