Knife Crime In The Uk

Does anyone have any insight into why the knife crime rate is going up, and prosecutions are going down? That doesn't seem to make sense.

 

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Watcherchris
Not an Ishmaelite

 

Let me tell you something. There is NO FREAKING WAY that you can prevent people from having knives. Even in prisons shanks are about as common as fleas on dogs. I make knives. It isn't rocket science. You can actually make a decent knife out of a circular saw blade with a Dremel Tool. In a bind, any piece of flat metal is only a few hours away from being a lethal knife.

To me, the problem with knives is that it returns people to a bigger is better survival of the strongest and fastest type of weapon. Where a gun makes nearly all people equal. A few hours of instruction and practice might not make you a first-class pistolerro but it will allow the smallest weakest person to successfully defend themselves from a towering hulk of an attacker.

For people like me when I was younger that wasn't much of an issue. I'm 6'2" weigh well over 200 lbs and could bench press 300 pounds. I also have always loved knives and am good with them in more than one way. Throw in a little martial arts training and I could take care of myself really well in a rough and tumble. I've been cut and it isn't a problem for me. In a knife fight, you can't be totally fearful of getting cut.

I'm older now. I'm still big but not nearly as strong or fast as I once was. My bones are getting brittle and all of this makes me ten times more dangerous than I used to be. I'm NOT going to fight with you. If you assault me I'm going to shoot you and kill you. God bless TEXAS where I am allowed to defend myself with weapons that make me equal to any thug out there!

 

I will confess something strange that has served me pretty well in my life. I am what is called a pain slut. That means that I have overactive adrenal glands that will literally make me like and to some extent get excited by pain. I started cutting myself when I was a child. It drove my Mother crazy!! My arms are covered in scars from cuts and cigarette burns. I outgrew that nonsense but am still somewhat ambivalent to pain. I will avoid serious injury but fear of pain just isn't a deterent to me.

I had an idiot try and sort of poke me with a folding Buck knife when I was about 19. I grbbed the blade accepted the cut and snatched the knife out of his hand. I kicked him in the nuts gave him a little cut on the chest that didn't require stitches and told him that if he ever pulled a knife on me again that I would kill him. I still have that knife and he avoided me like the plague after that even when we were adults. I did a couple of small stitches in my hand and was fine.

PS: I reread this and realize that it sounds strange. I had a lot of troubles when I was young. I am blessed that I got help and no longer suffer with those problems. The pain thing is a leftover from troubled times.

https://www.newhealthadvisor.org/Why-Do-Kids-Cut-Themselves.html

 

A lot...maybe most people seem to have an almost phobic fear of getting cut. I have always carried a knife and have used one several times to avoid a fight. I had a bunch of guys that were going to beat me and two friends up one night. We were outnumbered three or four to one. I stepped forward and popped out a knife and offered to gut the first one that got close to us and that was pretty much the end of it.

I did the same one night to a just ginormous thug that wanted to fight and I wasn't even close to being willing to be his punching bag. A knife at times seems to be almost as good as a gun...as long as NO guns are involved. Back then there were no concealed weapons legally carried and carrying a handgun except in certain situations like while hunting or in the woods was a felony.

Now I would be a lot less likely to pull a knife and use it as a threat. Now if I pull my knife I am going to plant it in your chest or cut your throat much like if I draw my gun. If you threaten someone with a knife they have every legal right to shoot you. Times have changed and in my opinion very much for the better.

PS: The first time I got into a fight where a knife was involved I was about 9. It was at recess in the third grade. I wasn't scared of a knife then either. The fool thought that when he pulled that knife and acted like he was going to cut me on the throat that I would be scared. I spit in his face and after a few seconds of glaring at each other, he started laughing. We were friends from then on both because he respected me because I had no fear and then also I refused to snitch on him later when I got sent to the principal's office for fighting.

 

The British people are not behind these crimes.

Savages are savages. Bring in savages, get savage behavior.

Trying to keep sharp thingies out of the hands of savages is futile.

The savages crawling into G.B., Sweden, Germany, ... are committing crimes with military rifles (full auto) and hand grenades. Once black market supply lines are established, criminals can buy anything they want after having burglarized the homes of humans and committed enough robberies to buy the contraband.

Austria is sold out of pump shotguns and is blocking migration. Thus they are somewhat successful in keeping civilized behavior as the order of the day.

 

Basically, the British Government has put out a sign in the yard that says, "Come here and rob and kill us. We won't resist and our laws will protect you from any uncivilized brutes that try to fight back... Come one come all!" Australia isn't far behind. Their saving grace is that they are an island continent that isn't near to Europe and the Middle East.

 

Danm Lonewolf it is like you read my mind. I was going to post that a big part of the Problem in Great Brittian is that it is ruled too much by Lords and Royalty that live in their walled castles and have very little, understanding, interest in the plights, or needs of the common man.

Don't feel alone though. The US seems to be heading down that same road with our career politicians that have mostly never worked a day in their life except to run for office. Once elected their entire focus and interests to hold on to that place and get richer as fast as they can. It is amazing how they can enter public office as people of large but not excessive means and then exit multi-millionaires on a middle level 6 figure income. Obummer is a great example of that.

Democracy seems to be nearing the end of its run. It was a great set up as established by our forefathers but has been whittled down to an insanity where we in the US are nearing the point of electing mostly only fools and crooks that promise the masses the moon and then do none of the things they promised...and people will fall for the same lies four years later. We are giving away our country and as I see it we will either end up in the same situation that you are in or there will be a civil war. I'm hoping that when we eventually let the idiots in this country elect a monster that there will be enough true Americans left to rise up and refuse to accept the shackles they will want to place on us...for our own good of course.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/two-more-tee...lence-continues-in-the-capital-090230465.html

https://fox61.com/2019/10/06/police-investigating-shooting-in-new-london/

https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/...h-murders-of-three-men-stabbed-in-colchester/

https://www.wwlp.com/news/local-new...ade-in-connection-with-stanley-park-homicide/

"West Yorkshire police said Paul Crowther, of Elm Way, Birstall, has been charged with murder and possession of a bladed article." Those dangerous sharp thingies! If only England's serfs were stripped naked and herded like sheep, they would be safe! Safety is everything! Liberty leads to death! Ban Liberty! Breathing is far more important than any sort of dignity!
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/16/man-charged-with-of-woman-found-dead-in-street

https://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/4-injured-1-arrest-in-Manchester-stabbing-14514121.php

https://news.sky.com/story/zakari-w...from-river-was-cheepy-little-chappie-11808997
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ribute-to-baby-thrown-into-river-in-radcliffe

http://worldjusticenews.com/news/2019/10/08/police-arrest-13-over-uks-biggest-drug-conspiracy/

Glimpses of what is coming are available today. Videos hither-thither on the web document what the mainstream media will not report. Not reporting violence and not dealing with the violence causes the breakdown of civilization. And let's face it, civilization is crumbling.

 

Interesting thing about many U.S. urban splotches defacing the N.American continent, is that there are areas within these cities that are safe. Go three blocks away from the safety and the decay begins; gets worse and worse. Finally one is no longer in America. There are areas within our cities where the police will only travel in convoy; they may even have to have some SWAT urban-APC to accompany them. Fire and rescue require armed escort. Such urban cancers are now well rooted in Europe. Witness Malmo Sweden -- they're having hand-grenade attacks there.

Sweden: Here is a video produced by the left-wing biased American television news program "60 Minutes" (they always cover-up truth, however in this instance they are attacked and apparently it didn't play well back in the States during the cocktail parties of the elite). Approximately four-fifths of the way into this video the overt violence begins, punches and objects thrown at their film crew. Halfway through, their camera-man gets his leg bumped by a car; he is knocked down and hurt, but is able to stand back up.



Next is a video produced by the communist BBC putting the best spin on Sweden's violence issues with immigrants. The BBC states that the evil conservatives are using Sweden as an example of the consequences of opening the borders of a country. The communists make excuses for the violence and make the point that with more social services these violence problems would abate. BBC message: People whose politics lean to the right are falsely inflating immigrant violence as a means to promote their political agenda. Just give the government time and money, then the benevolent, wise government will sort it all out.



Germany: Newsweek is a leftist news organization in the USA. Here is one of their articles concerning German immigration and the violent crime increase in that country. Maybe even leftist organizations occasionally have to report the actual occurrences. Maybe they can't suppress all truth?

https://www.newsweek.com/migrants-europe-violence-crime-germany-study-770105

Here is a communist treatise proving scientifically that what is happening isn't really happening. If you see or experience crime by "the protected" (i.e. immigrants from violent countries), then you are only focusing on the negative. You may be a bigot if your family is injured by the "natural" mass migration of people from all over Earth. Swarming is normal. Look away and take it.

https://fee.org/articles/by-the-numbers-do-immigrants-cause-crime/

 

I wish that the breakdown in civilized behavior were only occurring in the cities. I know rural America. The waves drug epidemics are beating-down the small towns and mightily so. Drugs divest humans of their humanity. No humanity, no civilization.

The SHTF phenomenon isn't but one entity. We should keep in mind that we are going to be visited by a cluster of SHTF events.

Hillbilly heroin

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/heroin-addiction/hillbilly-heroin/

 

London-Cornwall corridor

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/03/gang-guilty-london-cornwall-county-lines-drug

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics...cements-2019-londons-most-violent-year-decade
"Brutal Christmas Eve Murder Cements 2019 As London's Most Violent Year In A Decade"

Nevertheless, the crime in London is very low right now compared to America's urban areas. If more and more and more and more "refugees" are going to be let in, then know that the violence numbers will GREATLY change in London. Wanna know why? Here's my crowded graphic explanation (expand the image to better read it):

 

Londoners should also be keeping an eye on what is happening in South Africa.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.p...arrest-18-suspects-for-looting-foreign-shops/

The above article is 3 months old. The more recent articles concerning the ongoing violence are now so loaded with MSM communist propaganda purulence that they are unreadable -- the articles only contain attempts to explain the savagery. Anyway the attacks against foreigners and their businesses continues in the country of South Africa.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/0...te-farmers-in-south-africa-deserved-it-761503
The numbers of murders of white farmers are NOT in the hundreds, the numbers are in the thousands. Used to be able to get numbers off the web, but now all news articles that are not politically correct are being scrubbed

https://hienalouca.com/2019/05/24/white-south-african-farm-activist-beaten-killed-murdered/

https://www.amren.com/news/2019/06/...-her-children-revenge-attack-in-south-africa/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cend-looting-frenzy-crowds-break-lorries.html

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/afr...esident-delivers-major-policy-speech-election

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/19/south-african-army-townships-gang-violence

 

first they started with gun control

 

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The "culture" in the UK that causes most of the violent crime there is the same "culture" that causes most of the crime in the US.


"Khan’s London: 43 Knife Crime Incidents Recorded Per Day Amid Gang Violence Surge in British Capital"

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-amid-gang-violence-surge-in-british-capital/

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A report from The Telegraph newspaper has claimed that over 200 gangs are operating in the British capital, with around 46,000 members at their disposal, some of whom are as young as ten years old.

The paper revealed that the Metropolitan Police are currently receiving an average of 43 reports of knife crime incidents every single day.

An officer who serves on the Met’s murder investigation unit said: “It really does feel like things are getting out of control… The volume and the ferocity of the violence that we are seeing is off the charts. I have been on the job for almost 25 years and I have never known it as bad as this.

“Ultimately it is all about money, but violence can explode for the smallest of reasons and before you know it you have gang members, many of them very young, carrying out tit-for-tat attacks. Drill music and the use of social media have made things so much worse. You have online squabbles that escalate so quickly into violence.”

While Hall has laid out plans to increase the effectiveness of the police, she argued that the problem is a broader issue within society, saying: “How have we got to this situation where kids are running through the streets with machetes? It’s an absolute disgrace. The most difficult job in the world is to be a parent, but it is also the most rewarding. You have to teach your kids right from wrong.”

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NgBsThf61Ho



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"The "culture" in the UK that causes most of the violent crime there is the same "culture" that causes most of the crime in the US".

That is a very fair assessment OG.

 

The ban on Zombie knives was "announced" six years and six Home Secretaries ago, they just didn't actually get round to doing it, which I think is pretty poor as it was promised o the mother of a particular teen that was murdered with one back then. Zombie knives are rubbish, I've seen a couple in shops - poor designs, poor steels and really just a gimmick but, apparently the silly little gang boys like them for the looks.

Banning machetes is a problem, they are a useful and common tool. The issue with them is they have become the tool of choice for the more adult drug gang members. I was chatting with a Policeman a few years back and he said if they raid a drug house the last man in always checks behind the door as almost with fail they will find a machete stood up agains the door frame on the hinge side. As he said "you don't want some s**t coming at you from behind with one of those". He also said that if they find one they know they will find something that the householder is prepared to fit for, usually drugs, money or stolen goods.

I am opposed to the proposed machete ban. I think it is fair to say that if somebody has got one in the back of there car and no other gardening or tree surgery equipment that they are nipping out for a bit of recreational topiary. They are also very easy to buy. I watched a documentary some years ago on purchasing knives by "under age" young people (I can't remember which one, there have been dozens over the years) and the TV crew surreptitiously filmed at half a dizen garden centres, where you could buy a cheap plastic handled machete for a little as seven pounds (£7/$10). Only one garden centre questioned the age of the purchaser, and the was because the lass on the till was only 16 and therefore required an adult to make the sale.

Machetes are too easy to buy, use once and chuck in the local canal.

Banning, in my opinion, is not the solution, I would far rather tighter purchasing controls (for example in my local gun shop you have to ring a bell and you you don't look old enough (or responsible enough) to enter, they don't even let you in. Better checks at point of purchase maybe, but to ban machetes is removing a staple garden and farming tool for people.

I have said it before numerous times and will repeat again now for the sake of clarity. knives (or machetes) do not kill people. People misusing knives or machetes kill people. Poor policing, poor drug policies, underfunded police budgets and disinterested politicians abet and play an indirect part in killing people, but knives do not, they are inanimate objects.

 

My machete doesn't "cut it" out behind our house (pun intended). Even though I've put a decent edge on it, still it is insufficient. I've got a hedge row back there that requires heavy limb cutters, pruning saws, and sometimes I have to ask Mr. Chainsaw to help out.

Where we live, were we humans to disappear tomorrow afternoon, somewhere between 50 and 100 years later, space aliens flying over this place would not know that we humans ever existed.

Mother Nature will eat any land left unattended. She eats houses, asphalt, concrete ... you name it. Here, I've seen kudzu eat houses, rock banks, trees, ... . I had to install gutter-guards because things will start growing in your gutters if you don't clean them every year. Tree seedlings you'll see growing out of home gutters, cracks in asphalt, cracks in concrete. You'll see sidewalks broken up by tree roots. Dead trees quickly get infested with vines, bird nests, insects ... . Here, rot and mold sets-in VERY quickly if you don't fight it.

In the mountains here, it is rare to see a rock face. Only TALL rock cliffs can be seen, but even then, you'll see trees growing out of the side of a sheer cliff of "solid rock". The extreme weather-shifts seen here break-up granite cliffs. Rock slides covering major roads is common. Rocks crack due to massive temperature shifts, then water gets into the cracks, the water freezes and causes more cracks, dirt fills the cracks, trees start to grow and their roots split the mammoth rocks into little rocks, then pebbles, then sand and dirt.

This place hasn't any jungles; however, forest undergrowth will give you a royal workout if all you have is a machete. As kids, we just dove on through the roughs and forests. You'd come home and get out the iodine and band-aids. Bleeding was just something you dealt with.

Mother Nature is unforgiving.
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The UK isn't alone in having stabbing sprees. We get these stabby-stabby sorts all the time. The idea of regulating knives is preposterous to us, however. The communist state of California might attempt that, but then California is no longer a part of America. Maybe it is another planet. Most Americans want the Pacific Ocean to swallow California, Oregon, and Washington state ... which could occur if all of their earthquakes went off at the same time.

"4 people killed, 5 wounded in stabbings in northern Illinois, with a suspect in custody: authorities "

https://nypost.com/2024/03/27/us-ne...linois-with-a-suspect-in-custody-authorities/

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Four people were killed and five were hurt in stabbings in northern Illinois on Wednesday, authorities said.

A suspect is in police custody and was being questioned Wednesday afternoon, according to Rockford Police Chief Carla Redd.

Rockford’s population is about 150,000 and it’s 90 miles (144.84 kilometers) miles northwest of Chicago.

She said one of the people who was wounded remained in critical condition.

“We have one that’s in critical condition right now and an additional four that are in stable condition.”

The suspect was arrested by a Winnebago County sheriff’s deputy after they were called to a reported home invasion, Sheriff Gary Caruana said.

“The young lady ran from him,” Caruana said of one of the survivors.

“She got some stab wounds in her hands and her face. She is in serious condition. One of the good Samaritans stopped to help her out. He did get some stab wounds. He is being checked out.”

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Speaking of banning knives and that being ludicrous here in the States, the comments on the above article had people joking about banning knives. In America, we want out-of-control people put in prison forever or dead. Me, I think we need penal colonies for those people incapable of civilized behavior -- this on some island our out in the desert. Ongoing life and civilization are too important to be dragged-down by the trash people. In the South, going around stabbing people will get you shot dead.

Article comments:

 

The Police have certainly lost control of the capital. A it less investigating "woke" infractions and a bot more "out there fighting crime" would not go amiss right now.

 

I don't, it is utterly depressing. One might expect it from a third world country but, maybe, that is what the UK has become.

 

Your London has yet to get as bad as Amerika's Mogadishu-esque Urban pits. As illegal migration continues, London will catch up in all likelihood.

 

We are very lucky to be away from it.

 

Robert Jenrick is proposing that migrant crime data is published. This wood certainly clarify a very big issue in the UK - is most crime migrant related? Probably not, but there is a perception that it is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68697796

 

Probably, but only from the "wokerati" and they are a part of the problem. The way I see it, it will either confirm the belief that migrants have brought a crimewave to our shores or show that they haven't and the crimewave is homegrown. I see it as a really good chance to settle discriminatory views once and for all.

If the crimewave is home grown then resources can be channelled appropriately, if it is due to immigration then immigration can be stopped (or reduced).

Only a fool would see the wish to reduce crime as racist (although recently I saw an article saying the cheese is racist - no really - it is because white people eat more cheese than those of colour.

 

Note to visitors from the UK coming to America:

As opposed to England, all cops in America are armed (as are many citizens who have a carry permit). I you have a metal object in your hand and a cop can't see what that is, the cop will tell you to drop the object ... it could be a knife or a gun (???). The officer simply may not be able to visually identify the object, so he's gotta protect the public and himself/herself.

If you refuse to drop the object, then the cop will drop you. Officers don't bluff. You cannot negotiate. Instantly drop that which you are holding.

Decades back near where I lived, nighttime police stop, guy gets out of his car holding channel-lock pliers, county deputy shoots and kills him. No investigation. Word on the street, "Guy over in Greene County got himself shot."

The atmosphere in the UK vs. the US is profoundly different. In the American sticks, just consider all law officers as being ex-military. Too, police training academies here are run with a military attitude.

In the following link, there is a video of a police shooting. In the right hand column are found other videos of police shootings.

Go to 5:20 time stamp in the following video (5 min, 20 seconds):

"NYPD release video of shooting involving knife-wielding man who stabbed church security guard in Queens"

https://usacrime.com/nypd-release-v...-who-stabbed-church-security-guard-in-queens/

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In the next video, you'll see an officer dumping the magazine of her service weapon into a young suspect. Yes, this is overkill writ large. This number of shots wasn't necessary AND it meant that she would have had to drop that empty mag and reload a second mag should another suspect open fire on her.

https://usacrime.com/police-release-videos-of-shooting-that-left-robbery-suspect-dead-in-decatur/

Other shootings:

https://usacrime.com/cellphone-video-shows-police-shooting-armed-man-in-nw-miami-dade-park/

https://usacrime.com/video-police-shooting-randy-lansang-dead-daytona-beach/

And it is much worse in Russia:

https://usacrime.com/moscow-attack-...and-forced-to-eat-it-by-russian-troops-video/

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Relative to America, England's violent crime rates are very small. But then, minorities represent tens of millions of our population -- coming up to a quarter of our population. In the States, violent crime is mostly concentrated in minority-occupied areas / neighborhoods. In England and Europe, minorities are very concentrated in urban areas, thus London is a center for stabbings.

"Knife crime is out of control Sadiq Khan’s London, says Susan Hall"

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1885541/sadiq-khan-london-knife-crime-susan-hall

"London cannot survive if Sadiq Khan continues to let knife crime spiral out of control, writes Susan Hall [Tory mayoral candidate]."

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Old Geezer: Problem is, when the police use effective means ("stop and frisk"; mostly gang-bangers) to crack-down on crime, minority leaders scream, "Racism!" It's the same here in the States. The socialists blame poverty, yet the rate of violent crime among poor whites is much less than among minorities, particularly blacks (not just poor blacks, but to include middle class blacks).

This is a taboo subject. In America, if you point-out this reality, you are deemed racist. Me, I say, what is more racist, pointing out the reality or letting the slaughter of youths to continue. I'm a hillbilly. People say that hillbillies are prone to violence. Whereas our violence rates are low, push us just a little bit and we become violent. It's true. My blood line goes directly back to Northern Ireland. I cannot deny this reality. I see it in myself. To ignore the seed of violence within one's self is to be unable to chain-down that negative attribute. Recognize realities, then deal with them.

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"Knife crime in London is ignored because it disproportionately affects black people"

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/...oral-race-sadiq-khan-susan-hall-b1149615.html

"Crime in London is centre stage again, as the mayoral race gets well and truly under way. The two main parties both have their statistics and narratives to prove whatever point they want to make (which is depressing to watch), because the one thing which, whatever way you want to paint it, is just unacceptable is knife crime in the capital.

"On this issue the current Mayor and his team will have you believe that the numbers have never been lower, and his Conservative opponent will have you think the opposite.

"But the reality is, irrespective of recorded levels of knife crime, the public perception is that crime is on the increase. Within black communities, who are the most impacted by knife crime, that feeling is even stronger and deeper. If people don’t feel safe, that’s a big problem.

"Just last week I spoke to Dame Rachel de Souza, the children’s commissioner for England, who told me that children in London are some of the unhappiest because of knife crime and the fear of it.

"This is backed up by her report The Big Ambition, published last month. It found that young Londoners, especially those living in inner city areas, reported the lowest levels of feeling safe."

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Same situation here in The States. New York and Los Angeles are world cities, not American cities. Chicago, East St. Louis, Atlanta, ... are now third-world enclaves. Almost all large cities in America went socialist and are now in crash'n'burn mode.

I'm glad that the US is a really large land mass. If you want to be several hundred miles away from a city, no problem. Unfortunately, we live less than 150 miles from a city that is collapsing. That's WAY too close!