London To Replace Nyc As Center Of Global Finance ?

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  1. Pragmatist

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  2. varuna

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    As much I welcome the prospect of having London as global financial centre, I don't see it happening any time soon. UK lack the infrastructure capacity & reliability of US.

    Moreover there is also a need for global finance to shift away from using SWIFT into using either INSTEX or any blockchain solution such as Ripple or other. I personally prefer blockchain solution over anything else. IF UK could somehow promote or sponsor or encourage the use of blockchain solution over SWIFT it will be great indeed for London to once again dominate the world finance
     
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  3. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Varuna,

    My overall view is different.

    Transferring global finance from NYC to London cements the US - UK alliance. This is the only real Great Power alliance the US has. NATO is a shell and will remain so. In Asia, the US is in retreat. Fort McMurray, Alberta, Canada has replaced Saudi Arabia as a source for oil when processed. The linchpin for the US - UK alliance is London.

    London does have infrastructure capacity - and capability. It's been present and used all along, although out of sight. An example is ICE London - International Commodities Exchange London. It's a "joint venture" of US and UK companies with it's parent organization being located in Atlanta, Georgia, US. Also think of the vessel chartering markets in London and, of course, the poswerhouse global finance org Lloyd's of London.

    London global finance institutions do have reliability. Any big problem is less about London's financial role and much involving Parliament. This can be rectified by the current PM and the second POTUS administration. Look for many retirements of political enemies.

    Clearing house operations will involve protection against hostile elements. Can't comment on SWIFT compared to others. It depends on what is developed that can be used in safety.

    Any new London will be like the changing US cities; less restaurants and hotels and more home office admin support.
     
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  4. TexDanm

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    The REAL center of the future of Global Finance is going to be on the Web. there is little reason for the buildings and solid infrastructure of places like NYC, London or any other big urban monster. one and all they are rotting for the inside out and being taken over by the lowest elements of our society. Why would anyone of power and influence want to have to go into the middle of NYC to get anything done when they can sit in their office someplace safe and comfortable and do it? how often do you go to your bank now. Do you go to the post office to mail your payments for your bills. The big cities are rapidly becoming rotting poverty-ridden holes that nobody wants to live in.

    Our nation's capital is 47% black while the US is only a little better than 13.5% black. The murder rate of our nation's capital is over 4 times that of our national average. This is what all of our major cities are becoming. Over time they are going to just rot into nothing as businesses and working people abandon them. The important thing to the liberals is that the minorities get to do WHATEVER they want to do. When or IF we ever return to power the companies are not going to rebuild in places like Detroit and Chicago. the cost is too high. The people that they will need to operate their factories are gone. (Hell, hundreds of thousands came to Texas!) We are still up and running. Biden has already said that he is going to put a stop to that and will crush the American oil industry as they did the American mining industries. If we elect him we will get exactly what we deserve. A weak people only deserve to be stomped on and ruled by tyrants.
     
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  5. Pragmatist

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    Good morning TexDanm,

    Don't comingle the location for a global finance center and the medium used, whether it is paper documents, telegraph transmissions or the web.

    A physical location is still needed for the deals (and the closely related off-book deals) to take place.

    Washington, D.C.'s demographics have changed. Blacks used to be ~ 70% of the population. It then dwindled down to ~ 47%. Today it is about 20 % and rapidly declining.

    As much as this is a racial matter, it really is far less. It is EXPENSIVE to live in D.C. Middle class whites cannot live there. The rich and certain of those in the employ of the rich can live there in less than luxury conditions. An example of this is the registered lobbyist who needs a daily and immediate presence on Capitol Hill to protect the interests of some org.

    The nation's capital city is now really including Arlington County, Fairfax County, Montgomery County, Maryland and also the Dulles Airport area west of the actual D.C. city line and also, now with telecommuting, Shepardstown, West Virginia.

    D.C. is for the rich, the embassies and the foreign organizations indirectly financed by middle class American taxes. Trump is closing this racket down and he is hated for it.
     
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  6. TexDanm

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    The 47% was based on the 2018 census. Have THAT many left DC in the last 2 years???

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Washington,_D.C.

    If that is true they need to share their secret with the rest of the country. i don't have an issue at all with people of color but we don't need a huge number of people on welfare riding the wagon in our nation's capital. I would do away with welfare totally for healthy people. Give them a job, put their kids in child care, and if they won't work take their kids away from them and put them on the streets and let them eat what they can find in the trash. That should be the rule for ALL regardless of race creed or national origins. I have been there and I WORKED at whatever job I would find and supported my family. We were POOR to the point of hungry at times but welfare is a trap that I wanted nothing to do with. There are people all over that are looking for people that want to work. I had no problem working most days of the week. The wages were low but I worked as many hours as I could and hung onto my home through a time when the roadside parks were full of homeless people that had lost their homes.
     
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  7. lonewolf

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    London has been a MAJOR financial centre for a long time, its nothing new.
    London was a major financial centre, probably THE financial centre when America was still a colony.
     
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  8. Pragmatist

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    Good morning TexDanm,

    Not familar with linked 2018 census.

    Don't believe any of the official numbers. They are for Congressional seat allocations and Federal disbursements to areas based on population.

    Yes, the unofficial number is ~ 20%. This is because huge numbers of immigrants are not tallied into the official numbers.

    Black population clusters are in Wards 7 and 8, the southeast section of the District and this area also is being set up for Mexican immigrants to move to. The non-white collar D.C. jobs like hotel / restaurant work are filled with immigrant labor not getting FICA enrollments to overall benefit of employer.

    I can't address the rest of above post re the elimination /reduction of welfare programs. Just can't guess what the political establishment will do.
     
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    I can't find anything like a 20% number anywhere relating to DC. the current info is this...

    "According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Washington Dc was: Black or African American: 47.75%. White: 40.67%. Other race: 4.60%. Asian: 3.80%. Two or more races: 2.87%. Native American: 0.26%. Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.04%."
     
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  10. varuna

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    Was referring to the needed infrastructure capacity & reliability for 21st century global financial hub not for some "legacy" (outdated) 20th century that crate "jobs" just for operation & maintenance alone.

    IF.. IF... the UK do have the capacity & reliability I would already move my external network infrastructure there (which I haven't). And I currently still subscribed to US based companies along with Nederland based outfit to route my personal financial transaction traffic (unless you count Hawaii & Kalifornia no longer part of US)

    Its about overall system decentralization & countering monopoly
     
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  11. lonewolf

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    your bias is showing.
     
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  12. Pragmatist

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    Good morning TexDanm,

    There is just no way that the District is about half Black.

    It has changed with the new immigrants and many Yuppie whites moving into formerly avoided areas.

    I can't prove any of this with official docs but just spend some time in some major places outside the tourist areas.
     
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  13. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Varuna,

    You're comingling ... mixing up too much stuff.

    Capacity requires a foundation to expand. London has this.

    Reliability is a function of government and private sector management working in tandem. It's been done before.

    Other large financial centers like Hong Kong also has legacy type jobs of the 20th century. This had some relationship to the recent riots. Anticipate chages.

    System decentalization has many meanings. Some subjects are just not appropriate to discuss via telegraph key or web posts.

    Countering monopoly ?! ...... involving the finance folks ?! ......

    Review the London-based LIBOR scandal. Review the earlier US Savings and Loan scandal.

    Monopolies are a usual requirement to confront socialist types of "STC"s - State Trading Companies. Monopolies won't be fading away regardless of what celebrity politicians say.
     
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    Well of course I did. That because I'm a racist, bigot, sexist, deplorable, tree killer, dog, insect, reptile, bat eater, chronic human right abuser kind of guy, also gun totting sometimes (I do need some guns & sometime explosives to abuse human right). And proud of it too.

    Here's the thing. I wrote things here (and elsewhere) based upon my own personal practice & experiences, not driven by some nutjobs political narrative or let alone by any news media. I also doesn't trust anything (including gov't reports) until I've got confirmation either by checking things in person or ask / send someone to check it out.
     
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    The do have the foundation but I haven't see them actually doing anything to expand. And as I had stated earlier. I very welcome the prospect of having London become the global financial centre again for many reasons. But so far I don't see any serious attempt to make it happen

    How many of this monstrous beast in operation in UK bank / financial firm compare to that of US?

    ab22c7a600b85e8d0dbb764ead04f628.jpeg


    Security exploit concept is something that is talked openly and in the plain in technical forums. As long you stay away from political narrative stuff and sticking to science, technical, engineering.

    What do you called SWIFT then?
     
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  16. TexDanm

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    We each have a lot of personal biases based on what we know, where we live, and our personal philosophies. I see things a lot differently than people in even other parts of the US. I would be amazed if someone from a different part of the world didn't see things in a different way. That is one of the things that I find fascinating about this board. We are from all over the world and yet seem to have more in common than I would have expected.
     
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  17. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Varuna,

    You do know that we Americans have an election on 3 November ?

    You won't see any big international changes until domestic US political matters resolved and power centers securred.

    Recommend wait until January, 2021 for checking situation in London and NYC.

    Not familiar with the IBM picture question.

    Too much blends from the technical to political.

    SWIFT is a monopoly like my post above inherently presents it. The financial field within the political blocs run monopolies.
     
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  18. watcherchris

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    This whole thing is a sham.....and hidden from the view and understanding of most Americans....including what is written in our history books concerning London and the Bank of England along with the Insurance companies....as well as the true nature of our "Special" relationship with England.

    America is a branch extension of the Bank of England....and it's merchants..including in Insurance.....globalism..world wide internationalism...not Americanism.

    You have to be educated in public schools such that you don't catch on to it...historically and daily.

    The Attempt always and even today is to make America subservient to internationalism...to have internationalist English/UK/London programs...socialist programs...not American programs...

    And this is being done socially and economically to get America just as bankrupt as is Europe and the UK.,...via Socialism..

    You have way more Communists/Socialists in the UK and the Continent than you do here in America...and in America many of them can be found in our education system.. colleges and universities teaching that internationalism/globalism/subservience is the way to go....

    Yes...Governor...Yes Governor.....Yes My Lord....not Americanism...not Independent..

    The meddling in our affairs has been mostly from the UK...not Russia...and also from China...a byproduct of the UK/American secret social economic alliance.

    Communist China today is the byproduct of this western internationalist finance...manufacturing the next economic profit controlled growth area...after re manufacturing the new Germany, and Japan after two world wars.


    America has been and continues to be the boot lackey for internationalist investments should these investments go bad...

    We protect many of these world investments in capital with our finest blood....over and over and over...without most Americans knowing the big picture.

    Only Americans are so stupid that they go to war...over and over and over again in world wars and when the wars are over they bring home no new spoils or territories.
    The victors are supposed to get the spoils right???
    Has it occurred to many of you that we never have been the victors..but only the boot lackeys doing someone else's dirty work and they get and control the spoils???

    You have to become educated to become this naturally stupid that you do not realize you are fighting for someone else's profits..and many of them not even American.

    Just like the average Englishman..we too have people buried all over the world to protect this concealed hidden world international global empire...not loyal to any nation or people but only loyal to their profits.


    If you members think what I am posting here is a joke....laughable...remember ...these internationalist/globalists...The Opium Wars were their wars.....to keep the Opium Profits going...not to fight against opium but to promote the profits from opium.

    And this continues today. The world drug markets are one of the money makers for these Internationalists though they are today well diversified in their profit making.


    Be very careful to what and whom we as Americans owe allegiance...many and much of it is not even American in nature.
    And yet we spill our blood and resources when their investments go bad. The Two Recent Gulf wars were examples of this...So too Afghanistan....

    I knew that when coalition forces took Iraq away from Saddam Hussein that cheap Iraqi oil would not be coming to America to lower our energy prices...just like the Alaskan oil was prevented from coming here to the lower 50 states and went anywhere but to America...because of this special international relationship...and our boot lackey status in international affairs.

    London, England is not what it appears to be in the history books..and neither is New York and Wall Street...and the Fed.

    I suspect that Trump and company are not fans of this international system which is why they are not liked today in Washington DC. Which is why the very very intense vitriol..it is internationalist/Global vitriol...

    Both the Republican and Democrat party have sold their souls to this internationalist/global position ....along with the souls of the American people...

    And I believe this is the real nature of what is going on today...the real struggle..
    Hillary would have sold us down this toilet drain four years ago and so too will Biden....

    Be warned of the Ishmaelites...


    Anthony Sutton ..

    Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution.
    Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler
    The War on Gold
    Wall Street and FDR
    National Suicide ..Military Aid To The Soviet Union..
    The Best Enemy Money Can Buy..
    How The Order Controls Education

    https://www.amazon.com/Antony-C.-Sutton/e/B001K1S1ZE?ref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share


    None call it Conspiracy...by Gary Allen

    None call it Treason ..by ..John A Stormer

    From Major Jordan's diary...by George Racy Jordan..



    This world is not laid out in the pattern you have been taught in public schools.....the power structure is very different...the lay of this land.

    The Real power structure is concealed....Occult....and Washington DC is neck deep in it.....and hiding it from most of the American people...Since the Spanish American War if not earlier.

    And it is a concealed hidden monopoly...an Internationalist/Global Monopoly.


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  19. watcherchris

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    Remember something historically ....with the Spanish American war......American Secretly discontinued the Monroe Doctrine without the knowledge of most of the Congress and without the knowledge of most of the American People.

    Most Americans today still cannot connect these dots in history and most of us today have no clue as to what is in the Monroe Doctrine....



    James Monroe's home is Ashlawn....just down the hill from Thomas Jefferson's home outside of Charlottesville, Virginia..

    One can visit both places....


    Be Warned the Ishmaelites.

    Watcherchris
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  20. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Watcherchris,

    "In general one should not generalize" Anon.

    It's just too vast a field with so much overlap to say that the US is still a defacto consolidated colony or dominion of the UK. Many aspects do exist but the counterbalance to this is also visible.

    Now I do know that our George Washington remained a stockholder in the Bank of England throughout our war of Independence ... It wasn't really an effort for independence initially. The 13 US colonies sided with Parliament against the King in the British civil disturbance to determine who would govern Parliament or the King.

    What Montagu Norman developed with his Bank of England - a private establishment until after WWII had participants on both sides of the pond.

    Perhaps the key book that determined much of the "special relationship" was John Maynard Keynes' "The Economic Consequence of the Peace" (1919). This book is said by some was the vehicle that kept the US out of the League of Nations.

    Post WWII we can see that the "special relationship" was just the usual Great Power off and an alliances. I say this by relying on the Skybolt event and PM Harold Macmillion.

    JFK, the Eastern Establishment's hoped for representative of their interests, sought to end any British nuclear deterent ability. This failed with Skybolt being replaced by the British have a Polaris deal. ...... AND ...... for this early 1960s matter it generated DeGaulle 5th French Republic to tell London that the UK cannot be part of a special relationship with Atlantic Europe and also the US. As discussed here at Forum, DeGaulle kept the UK out of the Common Market and only recently the Brits' made efforts to stop subsidizing France and Germany.

    A review of ICE London will show that this US - UK commodities program has a headquarters in Atlanta. This is the opposite of the traditional Colonial Office "British Crown Colony".

    Just looking at global terms "Brent" and "West Texas Intermediate" shows geography and also a special arrangement. The French or Germans aren't running benchmark pricing for the protoplasm of the industrial world.

    ......

    Not clear on the second post;

    The Monroe Doctrine closed down during/after (?) the Spanish American War ? Cuba got the Platt Amendment followed by the Roosevelt corollary and then the Kissinger Addendum.
     
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    Pragmatist,

    Perhaps I misspoke...I am speaking of the Crown...not the throne of England or the English people... but the Crown Merchants operating out of Olde London...who also control vast aspects of the UK Government...not the other way around.

    It is this consortium to which the USA has bailed out their investments when they go bad..and often since WW1.

    Before WW1 and after Waterloo....it was the French La Grande Armee which did the dirty work for the Crown's investments.

    And the Germans under the Kaiser threatened the Crown's monopoly...on world trade...

    The French could not die sufficiently in trench warfare to hold back and stop the Germans....and hence by 1917 the Americans were called in to protect the Crown's monopoly on world trade and we have been carrying out that role ever since with our finest blood.

    The French Were the boot lackeys before us.

    And just like us today....when the take was split up...the Crown go where the people and stuff was and the French got the outposts wherein you had to go miles and miles and miles just to get there.
    The French did not get the spoils of war for which they so bled....just like us today. And the French bled very very heavily in WW1 before we go involved to take their place.

    You have to become educated or miss educated not to catch it....for it is heavily hidden and concealed in the miss teaching of history.

    This is one of the reasons for the rift between the British and French today though parts of it go back to Medieval Times.

    I think De Gaulle was very aware of this history having lived in the time of Petain.


    By World War 2...the Germans , Japanese , and Italians had combined to threaten the Crown's monopoly on world trade and build their economic empires..but most of the worlds resources were under Crown Control as well as were the world trade and or shipping routes.

    Bank of England...is the Crown's bank...and so too is Lloyds of London....and so too their subsidaries under which they operate.


    This set up is aptly described in a short book by E. C. Knuth

    "The Empire of the City"

    In most books you read..this connection and status of nations is hidden from most people under this "Special Relationship" Status.

    After WW2...any nation of consequence was forced into a relationship with the Bank of England or a subsidiary.

    The Soong Family was the representative of the Bank of England...Rothschild Bank in China....Madame Chang Kai Sheik was a Soong.

    This struggle for banking and finance dominance continues right to this day....against the few remaining nations who are not part of this monopoly. Again...not what one gets in the phony news or history books.


    Years ago..I have read "The Economic Consequence of the Peace."
    Very interesting in places...very.

    JFK was fighting the banks...particularly the Fed...and it's phony interest bearing fiat money system..after Keynes and the System of the Bank of England....

    JFK caused to be printed non interest Treasury Notes...red seal...in place of interest bearing federal reserve notes.
    And it cost him his life..

    Depending on what happens after the election and If Trump wins...I am thinking this history will repeat itself...in many ways...

    If Biden wins...we will be going back to boot lackey status in more ways than one...for Biden is clearly a boot lackey status puppet..as were so many Presidents in previous years...Republicans and Democrats both.


    Most of the Oil Field territories in the Middle East...were secured by the British and the Crown Merchants after WW1...America was a latecomer to this arena after WW2.

    It is not accidental that the Nazis moved into North Africa in WW2...they were not there for the sand and camels.

    Hong Kong....in America.....and these facilities can be moved anywhere in the world in the electronic age.


    Pragmatist...

    These wars and struggles...trade wars...are often not what one sees or learns in the news...while someone tries to play "Good Cop/Bad Cop" with our minds/souls and our posterity...

    The struggle behind them is often a business deal gone awry...and corrections need to be made..Benghazi????


    When Saddam Hussein paraded that frightened British Boy in front of the Cameras....I knew what was coming.


    Correct...the French and or Germans are not big producers nor financers in this arena...they are consumers...Nor are they world wide in their military arms to protect these investments. Thus a tell tale of their status.

    Thanks,
    Watcherchris
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  22. Pragmatist

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    Good evening Watcherchris,

    Ah ... T.V. Soong......

    Much literature written about the Mona Lisa smile on portrait. Traditionallt it was said Mona learned she was pregnant. The modern version says she learned she was not pregnant.

    The most famous smile I've even seen was the subtile smile when T.V. Soong was given the just signed by SEcTreatury Morgenthal the famous check for $500 million, January,1942. Today this number is about only a half day's shopping at Bass Pro Shops but in '42 nice waterfront homes in California could be obtained.

    Soong's dad had a US connection. Dad was baptized and educated in Wilmingon / Beaufort, North Carolina area by Methodists. Dad's job was to be a missionary in China. Much is missing from this story.

    The Dec 1913 creation of the Federal Reserve System had one of its purposes to compete with London for international finance arrangements. Believe it was Regulation D, allowing for banker's acceptances to be discounted by the Fed. The rate was cheap and cheaper than London and much even of UK business started to get financed up in NYC.

    The discovery of gold in California got out the old maps for a canal through the ismus. The creation of the new country to house the new canal was named "Panama" and it was created at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel, NYC. This ditch was exclusive US owned and controlled. It opened in August 1914.
     
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  23. Pragmatist

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    Part the second;

    The UK knew a world war could be pending because of the platform / industrial war of Russia versus Japan circa 1904-05 mostly in China. Vladovostok, Ru is only an 8 day sailing to Hong Kong, a gemstone of Asia if the word has any meaning.

    Hong Kong could move its financial business and it could be to Pudong, Shanghai but my guess the actual financial transactions will be relocated inland for security reasons.

    Benghazi and the rest of Libya prior to the recent entry of fools onto the American scene was controlled by Nixon via Armand Hammer and his Oxy Petroleum company. Nixon was deposed by J. Edgar Hoover. Watergate was the real coverup.

    My views are mostly settled except guessing what happens to the Tokyo wealth when SHTF.

    I am now in the mood for both North Carolina hush puppies and dim sum.

    Foot Note; I saw the elaborate grave site of one of the 19th century opium traders of Hong Kong. Can't say much.

    I used to do historical research at cemeteries. I'm surely a real nutter.
     
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    It already is plus it has the worlds largest bullion market.
     
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    https://www.bullionstar.com/blogs/r...bait-and-switch-lbma-prepares-bigger-changes/

    "London gold vault Bait-and-Switch as LBMA prepares bigger changes"

    "Thus with this new shift from a 3 month to a 1 month vault reporting lag, the COMEX-LBMA gold pool tag team can, with a bit of spin, hold up a copy of the FEMR report and claim that the London vaults have made a Herculean transparency effort, indeed one that has the blessing of regulators, and successfully ‘lobby’ for a COMEX rule change to allow the London vaults a derogation to only report to COMEX on a 1 month lagged basis instead of the daily end of day requirement of their New York brethren."

    Capiche?!

    https://snbchf.com/2019/02/obyrne-l...on-dublin-gold-vaults-brexit-concerns-deepen/

    Gold being xported to Ireland from London.
    Socialist say that they are socialists, however when it comes to real money, they are the stingiest capitalists. Russia and China are buying gold hand-over-fist. If you are going to build a genuine currency, you gotta back it with something. The USSR backed the ruble with labor hours -- that didn't work out for them so very well, now did it!


    East European countries want their gold.
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  26. varuna

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    I'm fully aware of global bullion market, oil market, human female market, diamond (blood diamond included) market, sea food market, venison market, slave market, heavy weapon market, etc. London has always been major financial hub, however catching up with NYC in term of infrastructure capacity & reliability its still need a lot of tangible efforts. Thus why I've posted IBM Z15 picture above. Its not a benchmark, but any place that want to develop global financial hub will need a lot of that machine.
     
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  27. watcherchris

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    by Olde Geezer....

    Negative....Olde Geezer...Negative.

    Real monies do not need backing. Real monies stand on their own merits or demerits...

    The Gold 2.5 dollar coin in my pocket stands on its own....the metal in it...a measure to 'The Dollar Weight."

    The four silver dollars...before 1922 in my other pocket stand on their own...the metal in it is the money...not the coin or the shape of the coin as in the case of todays copper Nickle phony coinage.

    Cash means coin...not numbers printed on pieces of paper..

    Real genuine monies stand on their own merits....or demerits and thus never needs backing.


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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    Pragmatist,


    I don't think so Pragmatist...because from time to time I like to go through olde graveyards around here.

    Around here you are likely to see a lot of graves with dates going back into the 1700s. That is a lot of history ...if you know more than ESPN stats or the Kardashians.

    The further west one goes the more recent the dates on most headstones.

    A lot of history happened here on the East Coast...a whole lot of history.

    No ...your not a nutter...I don't think so at all. If so that makes two of us.


    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite
     
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    graveyards are nice and peaceful, some of the older ones are overgrown and no longer used, they are the most peaceful of all. just to sit and listen to the birds is so calming.
    I dont have any time for the noise and hubbub of modern life, thats one reason why I live in the British countryside.
     
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  30. watcherchris

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    They are indeed peaceful lonewolf.

    I miss my lady friend very very much in the year and a half since her passsing...and often stop by at night on the way home from work...after 1 am..even on my scooter..

    It is very quiet in the graveyard..with little moving with the exception at times of deer.

    I put solar lights on her grave so I can find her in the dark.

    I am a night creature and never was much of a day walker so to speak.

    The night does not frighten me.

    Yes indeed...Peace can be a very valuable commodity in this world.

    In that you have my envy ...far from the maddening crowds so to speak.


    Watcherchris
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    Before 1964, one could take their paper 20-dollar bill (silver certificate) to a bank and exchange that paper for 20 silver dollars. A paper IOU can be backed. The minute that any IOU ceases to be backed, the ink and paper IOU turns into cigarette paper.

    One writes an IOU against real property. If I am a trustworthy man as known to my community and on the street I write you an IOU for six cans of 16 oz. baked beans, that IOU has value because I've always made good on my signature. You come to my house, present the IOU, then you leave with six cans of 16 oz. baked beans. If I can't make good on my promises, then no one will trust my signature. Check kiting is what this is called. One can be punished for fraud. The government cannot be punished for fraud.

    No trust = no monetary value. The United States is running out of trust. The Socialists win the election and crank-up the printing machines = dollar becomes toilet paper.

    If we go Mad-Max, then ammo, food, and fuel will be trade items. All people who require medications will die. All serious injuries will result in death. Packs of aggressors will rule the land. Unless your armed pack can defeat their armed pack, then you die. Hermits must do a SUPER job of never being located, never letting their cooking fires give off smoke, or they will die. We humans used to live like this. If you were super hardy and super aggressive, you might have lived past age 40. Even then, you lived with multiple medical disorders. In my neck of the woods, the Cherokee were a civilized people, even if they did live in stone-age conditions; they even had medicines. Tribes out west of the Mississippi could go civilized or savage -- Lewis and Clark ran into both sorts of peoples.
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  33. Max rigger

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    London has very little to catchup with from NY, its a neck and neck thing between the two but... I believe Brexit will have an impact on the London financial bubble and see the city slipping in the not too distant future. Some banks, like some foreign industrial companies are slowly but surely pulling out of the UK as we increase our isolation from Europe.

    It took the best part of two decades to build up the UK automotive industry and not long to mess it up when a whole bunch of morons voted leave the EU. When you look at a breakdown of brexit voters an awful lot were old people and others with a poor education; both believed in the BS banged out about the EU...bit like many Trump supporters ;)

    News from the home front: some twat knocked my lad off his bike, bike was damaged but he got away with bruised shoulder, wrist, skin grazes. Police took statements, paramedics turned up and checked him over, they said normally they would have taken him in to A&E but with covid the choice was his...he phoned me and I picked him up. Told him if he developed headaches or nausea to call for help. We're spending too much time sipping fine drinks, eating and binge watching TV shows.

    Keep safe, catch up later.
     
  34. varuna

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    Here another thing that most doesn't know. I need to be a bit racist here because this is just the hard fact that never show up anywhere but still need to be told nonetheless. Those of us non white business person prefer to do our financial arrangement from London rather than NYC, mostly because UK in general isn't racist as anywhere in the US. And beside nobody want to get shot / kill by the local police or local gangster while doing legit business. Another advantage that London already have is it English speaking, which mean ease of international communication, which can't be said in other city such as Paris, Frankfurt, Liechtenstein, or NYC. and personally I only speak Deutsch sparingly, I don't speak Français, and I also doesn't speak Mexican either (which seem to be widely spoken at NYC and I heard rumour it is needed to gain entry to the US :mad:). Moreover even without Brexit, UK in general lack the infrastructure capacity & reliability of US to handle vast amount of financial transactions (there is a very good reason why IBM Z series is widely adopted by major financial firms / banks).

    Does the younger generation demographic there even know how to legally vote or being presence at the voting ballot at the time of the voting?! Clicking "like" button on Facebook doesn't constitute a vote.

    Less than a week before Brexit voting I can already predict the result. And took remedy to drop all my sterling (£) and has staying away from it. It was the same thing in 2016 I see that Trump was going to won the election less than a month beforehand and drop all my USD ($) albeit only temporarily.
     
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    Now that the U.K. is back to being a sovereign nation, and can make trade agreement without asking MOTHER may I, I can see London becoming even more important in the future. Businesses migrant to where the money is and the U.K. is going to be where the money is across the pond.
     
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  36. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Varuna,

    There are organizations and even some restaurants in NYC where English is spoken.

    They speak English at the New York Stock Exchange and the New York Commodities Exchange.

    Also, at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York - more gold bar reserves at this place than Fort Knox, Kentucky - the key people speak English.

    Ref: "UK ... lack the infrastructure capacity ... ";

    Take a glance at ICE London and Baltic Exchange.
     
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  37. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Max,

    Sidebar; Hope lad in recovery stage and OK.

    I followed the demographics of the Brexit voting blocs. It was much more about one's economic position especially as this related to their geographic location in the UK. It was less about the elderly and poorly educated.

    On this side of pond, Trump has supporters from the various age groups to include young citizens and the educated among all the demographic blocs supporting him.
     
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    That imply that the English speaking part of NYC is the exception rather than the norm. Moreover I don't want to get shot by the police just because I will not be able to respond to whatever it is they are barking at me in Mexican rather than English :eek:
     
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  39. Max rigger

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    Poorly educated and people scratching a living often = poor/low on the economic ladder. They listed to the crap about 'getting our borders back', immigrant issues the usual nonsense that appeals to people not able or willing to think things through and it distracts them from the shite pool their lives are :( Hitler did the same with the Jews, used them to focus the people and focused people tend to be united.
     
  40. Max rigger

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    Always were a Sovereign Nation and do you realise the influence the UK had on EU policy making?
     
  41. lonewolf

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    not a lot of influence, 27 against 1 most of the time, and most times our views were at best ignored if not ridiculed. which is why we left the "club".,
    look at when Cameron tried to get some alterations to some of the policies he was shot down in flames and told NO. which is how we got the referendum.
    so Brexiteers are poorly educated are they? same crap remarks we got from the Remainers. there was only one question on the ballot paper and it was do you want to leave or remain in the EU. simple enough question. nothing said about a trade deal, that was an after thought by "Treason May" and her government.
     
  42. watcherchris

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    One of Hitler's issues with the world set up back then...pre WW2...was that under the existing treaty arrangements....the Germans did not get the profits from their labor...and were forced to cede to the trade arrangements...international trade agreements...for resources as well as selling their products...part of the Versailles Treaty Arrangements. Someone else in the arrangement was getting the bulk of their profits..It was a shakedown.

    My limited take of what is happening today under The Common Market/or European Union agreements is the irony of what happened with the Germans and Hitler. The British are laboring under the similar conditions in that they have to sell at agreed conditions and someone else gets the profits...not the English. This is the problem with International agreements....often someone else gets the bulk of your profits...once they attach themselves by treaty agreements...like the E/U.

    This similar condition is what vexed Hitler...."They will buy our butter or they will buy our guns.."

    History seems want to repeat itself.

    What you are describing lonewolf..is similar to the mockery the Europeans made of Woodrow Wilson at the peace treaty...Versailles....with his 14 points.

    I don't think Wilson had a clue how deep the corruption goes in European Politics and how far back the national grudges go to the wars in the 1840s and 1870s...and some before those....as they jockeyed for power...at the peace table...it was economic power....

    Most Americans have not a clue...we even know so little of our own history versus those Kardashians...
    Nor do Americans have a clue how much certain Europeans look down on us a unruly upstarts in this business....until their investments go bad and they need someone to bleed for them.

    This knowledge and history are Occult...hidden from most of us...not in our education unless one looks off the beaten path of what passes for most of our knowledges/educations/history.

    I pray that one day Americans pull their heads out of our backsides and catch on to this ..about Europe...but I don't hold out much hope against public education and or Hollywood....that television and or movie education of which I am often want to speak.

    The Versailles Treaty left Germany very very embittered..and gauranteed a Hitler....if it was not Hitler it would have been someone else.


    Today Hitler has become a by word used and misused on people to get them to stop thinking for themselves and join the next man made crisis.....because we have to stop the next Hitler..

    Hitler has become a word used to Herd/control people and get them to stop thinking for themselves.

    I catch this every time someone uses/misuses the name Hitler and understand that I am supposed to stop thinking for myself and become an emotional train wreck ..frightened/scared and get on the political/social bandwagon.


    Don,t worry...the name will come up again soon enough....with the next man made needed social economic crisis.

    It helps me to spot the Ishmaelites of the world.


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  43. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Varuna,

    A memory refresher: You had written here at forum to avoid some Sumatra areas. Of course you were not meaning all human activity on the island. I can personally say Medan areas and Palembang areas were safe for us foreigners.

    If you do not approach the police with a knife in a threatening position they won't bother you too much.

    Garuda has or had a ticket office in Manhattan - believe at the Penn Plaza building. Have you heard of any shootings by police at Garuda NYC ?

    There are indeed major areas that are dangerous. This is not unique to NYC or other US cities ... or foreign cities.

    Planning does wonders.
     
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  44. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Max,

    The "issues" you discussed used by the Trump campaign team are correct - but out of context.

    The Trump campaign does use these points you mentioned to influence a national segment of supporters.

    The Dem campaign team does the same for their counterpart national segment of supporters. An example is the policy plank to arrange for reparations involving events of the 19th century.

    You had alerted Forum Members that the Guardian newspaper had a specific audience.

    Do accept that what you read does not necessarily represent what is going on here.
     
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    LW you need to go and do some reading mate because your way off the mark about the UK influence in the EU

    https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2018...russels-had-been-far-greater-than-recognised/

    Lots of information out there for you. Yep, only two options on the ballot paper but this goes back to the fact that a lot who voted leave were old and not up to date with current affairs and or poorly educated and just listened to the diatribes spewed out by the right wingers. The whole thing was a cock up and if a ballot was called today we'd not be leaving.
     
  46. TMT Tactical

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    Just curious Max, how do your define "Sovereign Nation"? I have never known a Sovereign Nation to allow another nation or group of nations to decide how much fish they would be allow to catch in their own territorial waters? I have never seen a Sovereign Nation allow another nation or groups of nations to decide with whom or what it could or could not trade. A Sovereign Nation does not allow another nation or group of nations to decide how it will aid it own businesses. A Sovereign Nation does not allow it's laws to be determined / judged by another nations court ( E.U. Court of Justice).
     
  47. lonewolf

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    I think your completely incorrect about if the ballot was called now, what we have learned about the EU in the last 4 years I think the Leave vote would be more like 75%!!
     
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    Not at all, look online and you'll find polls that show the remain vote would win. We were a big fish in the EU pond now we are just a small overcrowded rock heading for economic meltdown and loss of global influence.
     
  49. Old Geezer

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    Good morning Max,

    It's the EU losing global influence; not the UK.

    I'm no right-winger and can tell you pound sterling competes with the Euro.

    Wait 'till the PIGS collapse.

    Max, look at the problems the Mayor of Greifsweld, Germany has. This town is the western terminus of Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Germany is in the EU.

    Both some young and old are "up to date with current affairs".

    Most of the world is poorly educated.
     
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    Polls mean nothing, just ask Hillary Clinton!!
     
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