Looking At A Current Shtf Event

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  1. elkhound

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    looking at an ongoing SHTF event. this is new video from a guy that travels the glove filming who got a contact inside Venezuela to go film in most safest way possible for him.yall know i am of the mind set that not all places experience the same situations during a crisis. heres a country where we see clearly this is so. if you dont agree then so be it we all have our opinions and i base mine on history..not all collapses effected the entire globe nor certain individuals situations...be sure and pat close attention to the talk at gasoline stations and the mind set of the people,the govt and all. its a tool being used in this situation to keep the 'peace' as best as possible.these vids are long but worth a look....so far only 2 but theres promise of more..one weekly. hes suppose to show a coastal fishing village..i will find that interesting since i use to live on coastal islands.

    this is not politics thread..its about survival......

    the better part of Caracas...

     
  2. elkhound

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    the slum around Caracas...


     
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  3. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Elkhound,

    Ref: "...not all collapses effected the entire globe...";

    You're correct re the history. Here is the problem: The globe has "shrunken" because of the efficient transportation systems eg civil aircraft of the scheduled airlines, the economy air charters, the cruise ships, vehicle travel, etc.

    If electricity fails in a slum of Venezuela or the USA, and epidemics get started, those who successfully evacuate the area can infect well-established and "hardened" locales. We saw a little of this at the end of WWII when DP - Displaced Person - camps were established for processing these refugees. Now, with the swine flu and bird flu viruses in the global arena, the public sector is overwhelmed in protecting the safe areas. I'm mentioning above from the natural perspective. I have a hunch these matters could be weaponized.

    Gasoline stations will be closed to the general public with access only by LEOs and Responders of the various categories.
     
  4. GateCrasher

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    Thanks, going to watch these this weekend. "History doesn't always repeat, but it often rhymes".
     
  5. elkhound

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    yes in video the fuel is all in around Caracas....outside of there its hard to get. vid shows a family traveling and they have fuel on top of vehicle so they can make entire trip if fuels not available. imagine having to save fuel...if it was rationed...for months..to have enough to make a trip say to a hospital for a surgery or some type emergency you had to travel for.

    of course fuel on top could make you a target too...my truck holds 40 gallons of fuel in dual tanks. thats farther than i travel to and fro now distance wise.
     
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    notice the motorbikes they all drive? small cc engine size...fuel economy wins this game...none of this giant hot rod large cc bikes...i have a friend who is a guide out west.he uses small ATV's..he has friends who have the giant atv double engine size of his 250 and 300cc engines.he recounted a story about them refueling as much as 3 times in a day on long hunts. their snow machines same way.

    stewardship of resources is survival daily at all times.
     
  7. Morgan101

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    I must admit this was not at all what I was expecting. How could there be so much supply in Caracas when the rest of the country is starving? There were no empty shelves. What keeps the people apart? There was no civil unrest. Why weren't the starving people raiding the stores in Caracas that had plenty?

    For a city of almost 2 million people there weren't many people or cars on the street. For the family that was traveling with the gas on top of the car I was wondering how they were going to get home. If it took all of that gas to get there...?? Maybe they weren't planning on getting home.

    The economics were very disturbing. Work for a month to get enough money to buy a hamburger? If there is work?

    I will at least take this on face value, anyway to be an honest report. He was trying to show several aspects of life in Venezuela. I didn't see any political bias. Just showing the way life is.
     
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    And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

    6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.



    A measure of wheat was about a quart, and the penny about sixteen cents, which would make the wheat worth about $5 per bushel; or, if it be borne in mind that one dollar in that age would usually purchase as $5 now, the wheat would be about $25 per bushel in the modern currency. "Bread by weight" always implies scarcity. See Le 26:26 Eze 4:16,17. The prices named also signify the same. Hurt not the oil and the wine. Oil and wine, though common foods, are entirely prohibited. An age of war, mourning, calamity and famine is certainly symbolized.
     
  9. TMT Tactical

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    @elkhound

    Thanks for the videos. Points to notice, They traveled in groups. Lenny had his head on a swivel all the time. The rich are always the last to be effected. There are always commodities but only for those that can pay for them especially in a socialist country.
     
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    Sad to think a large portion of U.S. citizens , some in politics and some not want to follow the same path .
     
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    new video posted for his week..its in a pro govt area...very interesting to see whats going on there...i hope next week will be the fishing village...but who knows...i think he has lots of videos to show us from his trip.


     
  12. GateCrasher

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    In case anyone missed it:

    40,000 Bolivars is minimum wage (per month)
    30,000 for a hamburger
    10,000 for a hot dog
    21,000 for two rolls of toilet paper
    3,000 for a 220ml / 7.5 oz bottle of beer

    And the 6,000 Bolivars to 1 US dollar exchange rate just last month is about 6,500 to 1 now. Not quite there yet, but getting close to "wheelbarrel full of money to buy a loaf of bread" territory. Underscores the need to have some savings in the currency from another country, and/or gold and silver imo.

    Looking forward to videos from more rural areas too, guessing Caracas is the best (or least affected) area of the country. Some details on the black market for goods and services would be interesting too.
     
  13. TMT Tactical

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    I am hoping to see more of the country side and that environment too.
     
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    Thanks for sharing. I was always curious about the situation there and I've also been looking for charities. I will be donating to that GoFundMe page that was mentioned in video 2.
     
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    He posted a new one, haven't watched it yet. Inside Venezuela's Millionaire Neighbourhood (Abandoned Mansions)

     
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    new video up...its not in the fishing village...interesting enough though..cant wait to see the more rural areas and fishing village.

     
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    getting better folks. outside Caracas now..,notice lots of folks with fishing gear through video as they travel.more to come he says...cant wait for the fishing village one.

     
  18. CountryGuy

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    Thanks Elkhound. I went down this rabbit hole this evening and just finished watching all the vids he has up so far from Venezuela.

    Lots of interesting things in these. Like the fact that there is gasoline in the city, when it's available, and that it's free other than what you basically tip the station attendant. Or the free metro that looks like it's a mess but does get you place eventually. Also interesting how those in the pro govt areas of the city and slums, along with the well to do areas are kept in supplies to some point.

    I find it interesting that a few times Lenny catches himself from going to far afield and denouncing the govt or delving into the politics. Though you can tell he has distaste for the ruling powers.

    Not to much of a surprise there is the wealthy there, it happens in every govt and especially in socialist ones where the ruling class and their supporting bureaucrats reap the rewards of their positions. All that nationalizing of industry has worked out for the ruling but not so well for the people...

    I hope he gets out to the more rural farm type areas. My understanding is that is where a lot more of the corruption and scarce resources are really hitting like no water and seriously interrupted power. It seems like other than the barrio soup kitchen he's not talked about water nor has he mentioned anything about power outages.

    His guide to the beach, the ride hes driving and that hacienda he had, there was some serious money there coming from somewhere and the guy spoke very good english. Interesting to see what comes next. I'm surprised he hasn't had any run ins with the govt or security forces asking why he's there, why's he filming this and that, I mean the closest is park guards shutting him down. .
     
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    ok folks we get to see more of the nitty gritty side in this video. not the fishing village yet. but very interesting footage and also a few interesting stories of how it is there.

     
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    the fishing village..its not as good as i had hoped for but its as good as we can get from there for now. hopefully there will be more..i hope he goes out into agriculture areas or at least rural countryside..i would like to see if those people are at least growing gardens.


     
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    Does anyone here, doubt that if the USA goes this way due to the socialist elements in our government, that areas like Hollywood, Burbank, Manhattan and others areas populated by only the rich and famous would have plenty. The deplorables that work and pay our taxes and are against socialism. We will be the ones doing without. Think about how AOC talks to people like their idiots and shouldn't eat beef to save the world while shoving large hamburgers in her mouth and flying around in a big private jet. From what I remember the party heads and elite of the USSR lived very well, while most the country was hungry all of the time. How do the party heads of the Chinese government live today? North Korea would be another good example. Just my opinion.

    Dale
     
  23. TexDanm

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    I am beginning to see and hear things that to me indicate the precursor to collapse. the Democrats in the office are openly saying that a recession is a small price to pay if it will get Trump out of office in the next election. I am seeing indications that they are doing more than just saying this stuff. As far as I am concerned any elected official that openly is willing to work against both the wishes and the best intrests of the American people is a traitor and should be arrested and tried for treason. Their FIRST loyalty should always be to the people that elected them and NOT to their party if that means doing harm to their constituents.

    It is also becoming obvious that parts of our own government actively tried to influence the last election with lies and illegal claims. When your AG is having secret meetings with people seeking election that then leads to attempts to subvert the will of the people our Democracy is crumbling. the PEOPLE are supposed to control and influence the elections NEVER the Government itself. Obummer and the Dumbocratic party used the FBI as if it were the Gestapo branch of their party.

    This sort of stuff is terminal cancer if it isn't addressed and excised from our system...Alas, NOTHING was done and worst of all the Rapeyoublicans are complicit in that they not only allowed to they resisted any efforts to correct it. Our Government is corrupt and running towards something evil. We need to hang onto our guns. I think that they are the only thing that keeps the Government from just throwing out the constitution and declaring a dictatorship run by a Washington aristocracy.
     
  24. Morgan101

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    It may be your opinion, but you certainly aren't alone. Not only is that what would happen here, it has happened around the globe in every Socialist regime. Kim Jong Un's net worth is estimated to be $5 Billion. One guy has 12 1/2% of the country's GDP? Hugo Chavez banned civilians from having guns in Venezuela in 2012, but in 2017 Maduro changed the law so his supporters could call themselves "militiamen" and they can get guns. If you are part of that elite, inner circle you are fine. If you are not it will be a nightmarish existence.
     
  25. Old Geezer

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    I don't just "like" this post. These words are core truth about the state of affairs concerning this once-great nation.
     
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    You let the wolf in the door, you should expect to get bitten.
     
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  28. Old Geezer

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    No joke!

    What is it with "really smart" people?! I've worked around over 100 "really smart" people. What did I observe? Almost a half-dozen I knew went bat-sh## crazy. Not a little bit different, no no no, off-the-rails "put him in the hospital" crazy. "Mr. Geezer, did they have common sense." No. No, they didn't have common sense. Were it not for their secretaries, they would have been utterly disabled.

    The "really smart" people of Sweden have in recent years set some sort of world (galaxy) record for naivete. "They are just like us," said the Swedes. To get rid of these new imports, Scandinavia is going to have to channel some serious Viking spirits, plus sew their nads back on.
     
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    the Fires in the Amazon are more of a SHTF event, if "the lungs of the planet" go up in flames you can forget about any future.
     
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    its not going up in flames(the trees are going out on log trucks)...all the footage i have seen so far tells the true story....its what called slash burning....they are burning the slash after logging operations. i use to be a professional timber cruiser i used aerial photos all the time setting up timber sales.at first glance i could see all the 'cut lines' from even the old cuts from years ago. if you watch close you can see stumps everywhere. i see logging slash everywhere. also some of these places burning are not forests...its savanna's burning off.

    also theres written history in old ship logs from back in the day of colonialism of recording telling how there were places stripped of all trees.the one things explores were after were ship masts as there were no suitable timbers hardly left for that in europe at that time to build up war ships and huge cargo ships for commerce. its was one of the very first resources taken in new england area...per my forestry professors.
     
  33. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Elkhound,

    Don't know if applicable to the New England area but here in colonial Virginia the term for the raw ship masts and distillates from the wood (shellac? turpentine ? others) was called "naval stores".

    The Amazon fire is an international tragedy. Notre Dame cathedral in Paris had a major fire and the response was everything from donations to the skilled giving their labor for free. The Amazon absorbs - at least used to - greenhouse gases. The clear cutting prevents the capture of moisture and the results are in....an emergency campaign isn't going on.
     
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    I agree. Plus the worlds fresh water is also being polluted. So all we can do is prepare best we can and pray. Not a real religious person but do believe and study.
     
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    Amazon fires are also due to farmers burning their fields for new planting season. Where the forests have been cut, people are attempting to farm thereupon. The results are disappointing. Also trying to raise cattle.
     
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    George Soros cares so much about the Brazilian rain forest (ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ...) that he buys their pay-TV. Such broadcasting networks will help him develop his own propaganda machines in that country. Brazil is also a major vehicle manufacturer for armies around the world.

    https://advanced-television.com/2012/06/04/soros-buys-brazil-pay-tv/

    Soros has directly worked the strings on the marionette Obama. Obama usually does the bidding of Valerie Jarrett, Iranian/American citizen who is officer for international collectivists ... like Soros. Jarrett lives inside the Obama compound with the Obama family, keeping an eye on them, whatever. Born in Iran, Jarrett married into a well-known communist family here in the states -- her dad was a physician with leftist causes as the hobby/religion side of his life. Really sick stuff.

    https://lidblog.com/george-soros-obamas-oil-man/
     
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