My Bugout Bag Kit

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  1. Joe B.

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    Does anybody here have experience with these survival tabs? Amazon recomended them to me last night. (They are getting to know me too well)

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...&pf_rd_p=edaba0ee-c2fe-4124-9f5d-b31d6b1bfbee

    Normally I only eat real food, but I was thinking maybe in an emergency these would be good to have in a BOB. They would save space, would need no preparation and they last forever. Then again, in an emergency I probably would rather have real food.
     
  2. varuna

    varuna Tree killer & a cat person
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    Such thing is part of my kit (standard issue / combat ration)

    Example of it:
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    Those compressed food tablet has very low Calorie, however they are easy to absorb by our body thus making them very efficient. They are should NOT be use as your routine food prep and should only be use as substitute of energy bar or similar. Example of their use is if you ever need to eat something while continue moving or as last ditch food (in case your food supply are gone or need to ditch them)
     
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  3. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Joe,

    No, have no experience with them.

    An evacuation under emergency conditions is a stress event. Quality - and familiar - foods is the situation that should be sought.

    Foods in a BOB need not be heavy nor large in volume.

    I augment my "infantry" style kit (evac by walking) foods with a small jar of vitamin /mineral pills from Walmart.

    Without recommending types/brands/ etc, ... there are sturdy envelopes of eg tuna, salmon. There are nutritious "on the go" bars that look like energy bars. The same type of sturdy envelope is used for some brands of tree nuts. Ditto: chocolates and hard candy "charms".

    Save weight and space for water.
     
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  4. Joe B.

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    Varuna and Pragmatist,

    Thanks for the input. I am still puting my emergency kit together, so I appreciate the perspectives. I will test out a few different options and see what works best for me.
     
  5. Blitz

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    I used to try and be "helpful" packing for my husband. He ALWAYS without fail took everything out and repacked it. It used to amaze me how he could fit so much stuff in such a small space. Packing is definitely a military skill, there's a real art to it.
     
  6. Dalewick

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    I think it is probably more of an infantry thing. A place for everything and everything in it's place. My wife never could understand how we carried such large rucksacks. Mine usually weighed at least 90 pounds. We always would help each other up when possible. Trees were also helpful. Getting up from flat ground with nothing around was the hardest. It's no wonder so many infantry soldiers end up with back, knee and leg problems.

    We always had our gear packed similar, so that in the total dark, we could retrieve essential gear from anyone's pack and keep moving.

    Dale
     
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  7. varuna

    varuna Tree killer & a cat person
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    Can you still managed hauling such weight these days? In my current health condition I max out at around 25lbs not to mention I do have elevation limit.

    Most guys who made their career choice by jumping off from perfectly good airplane had it worse than regular infantry. Anyway powered exoskeleton is coming for infantryman, and everyone will be hauling more load with that.
     
  8. Dalewick

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    In my current health, I can still do about 50 lbs, but I'm limited to about 12 - 15 miles.. LOL! I'm a wimp now. LOL! If I do it, I pay for it for days.

    I also made that career choice. Lack of smarts and to much testosterone. I am airborne, air assault, HALO, HAHO and Combat swimmer certified. Or, I was back in the day. I enlisted and was 6 foot tall. When I medicaled out I was 5 foot 10 inches. I shrank 2 inches in a little over 5 years. I'm well aware of the cost.

    I'm still one of the lucky ones. I'm alive.

    Dale
     
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  9. varuna

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    I never understand why anyone would WILLINGLY jumping off from a perfectly good airplane :eek:, when alternative such as helicopter exist, or taking a boat if there is waterway.

    Back in high school I was offered to join such club (the club happen to be the school detachment unit) The recruiter were fine looking gals (they also happen to be my neighbour) who for reason I couldn't fathom thought it was a great idea to always carry 6 shooter revolver + extra ammo, pack of Durex Condom, make-up kit everywhere be that to school or during the jump :eek:. Anyway I don't have the slightest interest of jumping off from any airplane no matter how great looking the recruiter, no Thank You :cool:. In fact I still doing my best to avoid taking ride in anything that is flying when there is alternative such as train or ship
     
  10. lonewolf

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    Bug Out bags should not be that heavy, they should only have enough to get one to where their going, not to have everything" including the kitchen sink".
    if someone cannot stand up without help wearing the pack then its too heavy.
     
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      The referred to side conversation was about military packs. Not BOB's, GHB's or even INCHB's. Two totally different worlds. My GHB is only about 21 pounds with everything in it. In the Army I've carried packs that from behind, you couldn't see anything but below my knees. NOT something I'd recommend for any prepper.
       
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  11. Dalewick

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    LOL! I had a drill sergeant tell us the only thing that should fall out of the sky is bird shit and fools. Guess I was a fool. I wasn't that fond of static line jumps but HALO and HAHO jumps were AWESOME!!! I especially loved HAHO jumps. It is so cold that high up and your on oxygen a good while but man, what a view! The world is so quiet that high up. Very peaceful! Night jumps are scary and awesome at the same time. Especially moonless night HALO jumps. Only things worse was jumping into water or I had to do a LALO jump once. That was INSANE!! Jump from 500 feet. My parachute wasn't fully open when my ass hit the ground. That was painful.

    Dale
     
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  12. TexDanm

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    I can pack a blivit bag like that. A blivit is a 5 pound bag with 10 pounds of stuff put in it somehow. A blivit is bigger on the inside than it is on the outside evidently.
     
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    1. Blitz
      Always amazes me how anyone can pack like that. It's a skill I definitely don't have!
       
      Blitz, May 26, 2020
  13. Blitz

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    I love parachuting. My husband was a paratrooper. He also loved HALO and HAHO jumps, not so much static line. He said (back in the day) parachuting was a better rush than sex. I thought he was crazy until I did it myself, the adrenaline rush is amazing. He broke his ankle from a jump and was supposed to be off for 6 weeks. They were due to leave in a few days on a mission, so he cut the plaster off and went. He came to regret it though, his ankle had floating bone which caused no end of pain in later years, as well as constant knee pain. I've still got a parachute of his, got no idea what the hell I'm going to do with it!
     
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  14. Pragmatist

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    Good evening Blitz,

    If you've got the parachute bag, it's both a collector's item and also a great type of luggage.
     
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  15. Blitz

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    I've got most of my husband's military stuff, including 2 bergens with all the "fittings". I can't bring myself to sell any of it though!
     
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    1. Dalewick
      As a soldier I know. The most precious thing he had, was you. Your always trying to get home.
       
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  16. Dalewick

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    I understand the better than sex thing. Jumping was part of why I became an adrenalin junkie. That rush as you step out the door. Especially HALO or HAHO and your so high. The cold air rushing past makes you know, your alive. I LOVED evening and morning jumps. Seeing the sun on the horizon and the curve of the earth. Truly breath taking!

    I believe it's impossible for a soldier to explain the emotional and psychological cost of what we do. Just training alone is enough to make adrenalin junkies. Jumping from planes, rappelling from helicopters, fast roping, 30 - 30's, hand to hand, CQB and so much more.

    And combat....that adds a deminsion that shouldn't be explained.

    Did your husband ever open up? Not long after I got married my wife asked questions and I answered honestly. She's never asked again.

    There are some things we can talk about. Others we take to the grave with us.

    Dale
     
  17. Blitz

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    He opened up about some pretty horrendous things. I have no doubt there's a lot he didn't though. Some of the experiences he went through were mind bending but I think the worst was when he lost most of his battalion. He never got over that. He never lost the dislike of the people who he fought against either. I'm sure you know what I mean, so I won't elaborate. He was a real hard bastard when he needed to be. Nothing fazed him at all. Ever. There was nothing he couldn't cope with but I guess when you've been through hell and back, there's not much else to worry you.
     
  18. Dalewick

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    This says it better than I ever could.

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    Dale
     
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    1. Blitz
      Oh yeah. Absolutely.
       
      Blitz, May 26, 2020
  19. Max rigger

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    Bergen's, you either love em or hate em, I've still got mine with all the other bits of kit I 'liberated' a decade or so back, I like them and use them as bag of choice when four season hill walking; not lightweight but bomb proof.

    I don't have a bug out bag as such but I guess I've got all the equipment I'd need to make one. I'm struggling to see the need for one in the UK, nowhere to bug out to. If the house caught fire I'd bug out to a hotel but I can't see a scenario that will come without warning as in the current situation you'll have time to assemble what you need; I usually have a bottle of water, jump leads, fuses, FAK, torch in the car though (memo to self: buy water and put in back of van).
     
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  20. Max rigger

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    Blimey, how old was he, we ain't lost most of a battalion since the Korean conflict I thought.
     
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  21. randyt

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    these old boys would do about 250 to 300 pound portages.

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    1. Dalewick
      The good thing about portages is, it's usually not that far and it's going back in the boat as soon as possible.
       
      Dalewick, May 26, 2020
  22. Blitz

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    He wasn't that old, certainly not Korean War age. I don't know Max. All I know is he said he lost most of his men on a mission. Perhaps he was talking about a group, as opposed to a battalion, in which case, my error.
     
    1. Dalewick
      In small units it happens all to often. Before I had my own team we lost 3 of the 6 in one Operation. It's hard to shake, but it's way worse when it's your team. I lost 2. I know that pain.
      Did your husband serve during the Falklands?
       
      Dalewick, May 26, 2020
  23. lonewolf

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    I don't have a bug out bag because I'm not bugging out given my location, but I do have a get home bag if the car breaks down and the break down services aren't available.
     
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