"pandemic Fatigue"

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  1. Pragmatist

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54417547


    Good morning all,

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    Article is about Europe but just about the same and applicable to us in the upstart colonies.

    Note article's " ... feeling less motivated ... ".

    We are involved in a continuous level of preparedness.

    Had just read of hurricane prep on US Gulf Coast involving hundreds of volunteers arriving from well out of area locales. They are living in close proximity in makeshift arrangements. They will now return to their homes with vector status. We are an unprepared nation !

    WHO Europe Director Dr Kluge is wrong to say " ... has exhausted all of us,..". Those who missed medical treatment not related to COVID-19 and those now unemployed are experiencing different levels of exhaustion than perhaps Dr Kluge knows about.

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    Whether motivated or not, ...

    Prep, prep, prep
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    This is certainly a noticeable effect in the UK. My belief is that it is partly caused by the UK government who, effectively, threaten stricter measures/lockdowns etc on an almost daily basis. This has made the UK general public worry on a continuing basis about whether they will have jobs to go to the following day. Everybody I speak to feels the same way.

    More concerning is that even the most reasonable of people are now saying the UK government is totally out of control and some people I spoke to have even suggested that some sort of violent retribution against the government is likely, and some of those suggested they would be willing to join such a move. I have not heard such anger and disdain for the UK government since the 1980s and it is a serious concern.
     
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  3. lonewolf

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    I just think we have a different generation these days, most seem to be the "me,me,me" type and unwilling or unable to abide by the rules.
    the reason we have more infection in the North of England is because the university students have gone back and 80% of the new infections are in the student population.
    this sort of attack on the govt makes me laugh, do they really think comrade Corbyn would have done any better if Labour had won the general election?
    corbyn made a career out of sitting on the fence and not making a decision.
    I really dont know if local lockdowns are the answer but the govt have to do something , if they did nothing they would be accused of being uncaring and letting people die, seems they cant win whatever they do.
     
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    anyone else notice that pandemic is just "dem" surrounded by panic? :)
     
  5. lonewolf

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    which is what DEM sheeple do!!!:D
     
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  7. Max rigger

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    Given the amount of infections traced back to pubs I'm amazed they reopened at all. Most people don't give a toss if bars are open or not, its the loud vocal minority moaning that the media pick up on.

    The pandemic is causing mental health problems for a lot of people and these are starting to show in the UK and Europe. Looking back people in the USA cracked early on in the pandemic given the loons refusing masks/social distancing etc and hope they can have support, obviously we can through universal health care but its stretching services.

    We don't live in healthy times folks.
     
  8. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Wally,

    Very good !
     
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  9. Old Geezer

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    https://zenodo.org/record/4073131

    "SARS-CoV-2 Is an Unrestricted Bioweapon: A Truth Revealed through Uncovering a Large-Scale, Organized Scientific Fraud"


    Yan, Li-Meng; Kang, Shu; Guan, Jie; Hu, Shanchang
     
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  10. Max rigger

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    " You do know this was paid for and published by The Rule of Law Society/Foundation, which is Steve Bannon," former executive chairman of Breitbart News?
     
  11. Old Geezer

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    And then there is the fatigue of perpetually having to suffer idiots.

    If Stevie Bannon can in any way do harm to the enemies of God, to the enemies of Liberty, then he is my chum. Dear old Dad had some cherished chums. Truly amazing what can be accomplished when the moon smiles on the night. A beloved uncle of mine, Dad's older brother, was particularly swell at taking care of unclean matters. But, Dad was an extraordinary fellow in his own right; not to mention, a gifted teacher. They are just all over the place aren't they! These people who keep the foul odors down in any society. How good it is to have them about when things aren't going quite right.

    Learned as a child just how wonderful it feels to put one's enemy on the ground, disabled. Wonderment, calmness, clarity, effortless breathing -- it is as if one is cradled in the Arms of the Lord. Total acceptance.

    In this current era of ours, I see the mobs desecrating Churches, throwing rocks through the windows of homes, beating honorable people; on and on go the mad festivities of Mephistopheles . More than enough to advise me as to the nature of the situation of the day and as to the course of goodly actions. Is it not playtime.

    War is to the end. Messy, messy. So it goes.
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  12. lonewolf

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    3 lads about 19 years old were complaining that they were getting cabin fever after 11 days locked down in their uni rooms, 11 days? hell try 3 months that what we did.
    just shows that the masses just arent up to any kind of deprivation WTSHTF.
     
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  13. Max rigger

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    A large slice of society are not used to living a restricted life or being without what they consider essential and really why should they? Having poor people in your society is not a badge of honor its shows failure in society.

    People will always moan, they did in WW1, they did in WW2 but now like then, people ultimately make the most of things. The big difference between now and then is social media, people can moan en mass.

    I think you'd be surprised how quickly people would adapt and step up to the mark if it ever did hit the fan.
     
  14. lonewolf

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    people will NOT step up to the mark WHEN TSHTF, you cant equate the 21st century with WW1 or WW2, its completely different and people have different attitudes and most wont survive for very long without the supply chain or the resources of the modern era. they just wont be able to.
     
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    I think people WILL step up IF TSHTH, always have and always will. My parents thought my generation were wasters have done just fine. I look at some of my lads mates and think what a bunch of plonkers but you know, when you get to talk to them you realise they are just younger than you, that little bit different. As Oscar Wilde said "I'm not young enough to know everything".

    Back to WW1 and WW2, people only survived because food/supply chains were established to keep them fed, growing a few spuds in the garden would not have kept them going. They had all the shortfalls attached to 21st century people, just we have more to loose than they did in terms of goods and chattels...remove their support and they'd have fared no better than people would today. The arrogance of youth is more than matched by the arrogance of the older generations.
     
  16. lonewolf

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    during WW1 and WW2 a good portion of the population were not at home, they were fighting on the front line, that and rationing, but most of the infrastructure however reduced still worked.
    in a SHTF situation the power grid will be down, the supply chain wont function, no imports.
    back during the world wars most people had physical jobs and worked the land, a lot of people grew their own food, these days people have sedentry jobs sitting behind computers and know nothing about growing their own food
    once the power grid goes down people will have nothing to cook on, even if they had food.
    Most preppers know this, I shouldnt have to explain it.
    having rose tinted glasses about the masses is nice but its not reality, we have all seen how people will behave under pressure and its not to their credit.
     
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  17. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Max,

    Others view poor people segments as a society's improvement.

    Prior, they were dead people.

    A few of us catalog the WWI and WWII experiences as different than someone stuck in a cruise ship for an additional 14 days or some young guys are restricted from a holiday in the Balearic Islands.

    As of now, at least in the US, many will not make it. We're experiencing loss of life even during anticipated events like weather emergencies. Much of US society is not - and do not want to be - prepared. ... Time for some Dorito spicy chips and some brew......

    Look at the mostly "civilian" WWII partisans living in the eastern Europena forests. These partisans were only a few of the larger surrounding populations. Many to most of the overall populations were lost.

    Look at the Asian WWII rapid evacuations to flee the Japanese attackers. Those prepared survived and went on. Most did not.

    Today, it is substantially worse. The US is a socialist, mercantile economy with a socialist type political environment. In the US, if and when on an emergency evacuation or sheltering in place, avoid dead bodies. There will be many.

    Foot Note: I use a different definition than most Westerners as to the "poor". I appreciate the poor suffering if they consciously created their environment such as routinely taking illegal drugs - concurrent with 1 or more checks arriving into their direct deposit account.
     
  18. wally

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    i guess you've never heard of WWI and WWII victory gardens have you...it wasn't a couple of spuds BTW
     
  19. lonewolf

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    I think the correct term was "dig for victory" Wally:D
    during the war near where I live there was some land with ONE MILE of spuds being grown so not just a couple of spuds.
    during the war my mother in law had to pay 10 shillings(half of £1) for ONE egg for her poorly young son, when they moved to the country they could have a dozen for the same price.
     
  20. Max rigger

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    He's right LW, War Gardens or also known as Food Gardens were the terms for the land patches used in homes and public parksetc, Dig for Victory was a slogan used on posters during the war

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    Yes Wally I do know about them, WW1 but more so WW2 history is pretty much a hobby of mine :)

    The war gardens did help some but be under no doubt the UK would have been paddling in poo creek without a paddle if it was not for food from the USA and Canada we simply could not feed ourselves.
     
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  21. lonewolf

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    yes "dig for victory" was the posters, thats what I meant.
    I'm not so sure about not being able to feed ourselves, the population was lower back then, a lot of the imports from the US were guns and ships and stuff like oil rather than food. dont say it wasnt food but it was a proportion of the whole.
    by 1945 we were producing 75% of what the country ate on home soil.
    rationing carried on until 1953-even my sweets as a kid were rationed.
     
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  22. Max rigger

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    The UK has been a food importer for a long long time and at the outbreak of WW2 we were importing around %30 of our foods IIRC. During the war we simply had to import food to keep us going especially grain crops and meat. Rationing did give a balanced diet to one and all and in fact offered a better overall diet to poorer sections of society than pre war. For the first time the nations diet was looked at very closely and by and large improved. If you look at the stats brits actually started to grow taller because of the better diet. I'll try and dig out a link but basically the average American soldier was heavier and fitter the a typical British soldier at the outbreak of war because the Americans troops had a better diet. My grandparents are now passed, both lived through the war and had many a good chat about it with them when I got older. When I signed up granddad looked at me and said "Have you gone soft in the ***** head lad or what" but he was proud when I finished training.
     
  23. Old Geezer

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    I'm a "baby-boomer"; all of our dads and uncles had been in the service during WWII. My mom's brother was in the Pacific during WWII. My dad and his brothers were in Europe, were part of the invasion.

    During the 1940s in America, 70% of the populace lived in non-urban, mostly agricultural, areas. As a child, everyone in my family paternal and maternal either lived on a farm or raised gardens. Everyone had had to kill their own table meat. Post-war, many moved into small towns, but all raised gardens and had fruit trees in their back yards. As soon as I was tall enough, I worked the gardens. A friend of my dad got sent on an all-expense-paid vacation by the Fed.s, so Dad bought some land off the guy to help with his lawyer bills (super car mechanic who we lost, he ran whiskey, pulled a nickle in the Atlanta fed). This poor land had limestone rocks sticking out the ground everywhere, so it was my job as a teenager to bust those rocks to make for a grassy yard. Back then, people WORKED.

    As a lean "wiry" lad, I made some money picking cherries (that and mowing all of the old folks yards). Everybody had cherry trees and apple trees. My great-grandfather had planted a pecan tree which had become huge = squirrels = squirrel gravy. My dad's parents raised cherry trees as did a whole lot of the people close by. My grandmother would shoot off Roman candles into the birds. One neighbor strung up pennants, like a car lot, to chase away the birds. As a kid, I'd shoot my shotgun into flocks of starlings and black birds. A neighbor above was constantly shooting into flocks and the shot would rain down onto our metal roof.

    Even if you lived in a small town, agriculture was still part of your would.

    Unless you routinely grow food yourself, you just can't all-of-a-sudden become a farmer. In the small town in which we live, gardens are everywhere. At a nearby home renovation site, I noticed that the construction guys had planted squash and pumpkin. These workers are not in any hurry to finish the house I guess; their crop is coming in.

    All urbanites and most suburbanites are in no position to begin growing any crops. They have no skills, no tools, and most importantly no mindset / work-ethic. My wife and I are perpetually having to deal with non-working workers. Real workers exist, but they are rare. When I find real workers, they are either neurotic/obsessive or they come from families who worked the land. People who have worked themselves out of poverty have a healthy mindset. ... and they often hunt and grow gardens.

    A whole lot of today's poor here in America are poor because they are without work ethic. Most homeless have serious mental problems. When folk with psych issues are put into psych wards, the liberals want to "free" them, so they are set out on the streets, stop taking their meds, get sent back; the cycle continues. As to the definition of "poor", Americans who are "poor" almost all have indoor plumbing and do not have to share bathing facilities with others. American poor have air-conditioning, they have stoves and refrigerators and televisions and and and. What the American government labels as "poor" passes for middle-class around this planet. Poor men in ghettos wear gold chains and wear $175 dollar tennis shoes -- and I'm not talking gang-bangers. When shopping at home-repair & gardening supply businesses, I routinely see Hispanics driving $35K 4x4 new trucks.

    John Steinbeck's "Grapes of Wrath" does NOT apply in any way to today's America.

    The big killer of society in the USA began with president Johnson's "Great Society". Getting a government check has enabled lassitude and apathy on a mind-numbing scale. When people begin feeling entitled, it is the beginning of the end. America is now reaping the horrid harvest of "helping the poor".

    I am a broken record when quoting FDR, yet Roosevelt did say that if anyone were on public assistance for more than three years, it would be a sign that the system had failed.

    Wanna wipe-out a people? Lower their endurance.
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  24. Old Geezer

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    Oh dear Lord did I ever hate digging taters! First there's the matter of attempting to bust the red clay to plant. BAM hit limestone. Your hands ache. Harvest time, spading fork, busting taters out the red clay, i.e. red brick. Run your spade through a tater, you get yelled at, "Be more careful, boy!".

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    One must prep a garden if you have the funds to do so. Add to hard clay, sand, composted horse manure, peat moss. Keep a compost pile -- let the worms work it 'til it is black, dig into the black and spread this on your garden. Pluck some big night-crawlers for fishing.

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  26. TexDanm

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    Is Pandemic Fatigue the same as being Sick and Tired of this crap? In that case, I've got it in spades. I think that in the end, everyone is going to have to face it and accept that they are eventually going to have it if they don't have a reliable vaccine in the very near future. If the economy and our culture crash the death rate from that is going to many times exceed the mortality rate of this FLU. It isn't all that deadly if you are not old or in poor health. As the companies close up and go broke those are jobs that will never return. As I see it if we wait too long ALL jobs will be controlled by the giant corporations and the odds of us surviving that as a free people are close to ZERO.
     
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    Yes it is - I'm sick and tired of it too. I don't like the way politicians have tried to capitalise out of a disaster and it has proven to me, once and for all what a deceitful, self serving, bunch they are.
     
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  28. lonewolf

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    I'm the other way, I think our govt are doing what they can, the trouble is the idiots in society who think they can ignore the rules, not wear face masks, not socially distance, and go where the hell they like.
    if there is a spike of infections like in the North now then it makes sense to have a local lockdown to try and halt the spread of the infections but we have all the mayors and labour people trying to make political capital out of it instead of getting with the program for the good of the country.
     
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    For me, the sensible approach would have been to form a coalition, but instead they are all playing politics. I do think it is a good idea that the PM is consulting with the MP's and Mayors from the affected areas in the north, rather than simply imposing lockdowns.
     
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    I'm not so sure, Boris is the PM of ALL UK and the buck should stop with him.
    you end up with too many chiefs and not enough indians otherwise.
     
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    I'm sorry to say that, fro me, he has failed as PM. I had high hopes when he took over but I feel he has been nothing but disappointment, empty words and promises.
     
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    he's a damn sight better than "treason" May, just ask the EU!!:p
     
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    Good morning TexDanm,

    Believe you hit it exactly ! It's already started. ALL jobs are controlled by the giant corporations. It started pre-COVID but the pandemic speeded up the economic restructuring.

    Pre-COVID 4 US flag airlines controlled 80% of domestic seats. A big number also controlled for gateway city transfers for international flight routes. Now, with the scrapping of unnecessary aircraft and retiring/laying off/transfering around crews, the companies are getting stronger than ever.

    Public utilities are working similiar arrangements. ...... Don'e even know why there's still called "public utilities".

    Pharma: A+ !

    Banks, non-bank banks and related financial institutions post COVID, isn't appropriate to discuss here.

    You hit it exactly; the squeeze is on.
     
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    Good morning TexDanm,

    Believe you hit it exactly ! It's already started. ALL jobs are controlled by the giant corporations. It started pre-COVID but the pandemic speeded up the economic restructuring.

    Pre-COVID 4 US flag airlines controlled 80% of domestic seats. A big number also controlled for gateway city transfers for international flight routes. Now, with the scrapping of unnecessary aircraft and retiring/laying off/transfering around crews, the companies are getting stronger than ever.

    Public utilities are working similiar arrangements. ...... Don'e even know why there's still called "public utilities".

    Pharma: A+ !

    Banks, non-bank banks and related financial institutions post COVID, isn't appropriate to discuss here.

    You hit it exactly; the squeeze is on.
     
  35. Old Geezer

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    Here in The States, we have lost hundreds of military personnel to the Chinacovid-19 ... well, maybe not. One soldier has died.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/esper-1-active-duty-servicemember-died-coronavirus

    But just you wait!!!!!!!!!! Thousands of soldiers are going to die due to this virus, what with them all being packed together, breathing the same air. We should disband the military! A soldier has been killed!

    Chinacovid could kill me (if what I currently have doesn't). Should my nation shut down because of those whose health is not good? Don't shut down because of me. Something is going to kill me, I'm old.
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