Post-brexit; Who Needs Who(m) ?

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  1. Pragmatist

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  2. TMT Tactical

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    The E.U. is like trying to herd cats. Every member nation has their own government and people to answer to and that takes priority over the wants and needs of the E.U.. The U.K. wins.
     
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  3. Old Geezer

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    The EU is dead, but on life support. The beeping monitor records a heartbeat. The BIS readout would show that the patient's family needs to bring in a priest, however the BIS sensor has been removed from the patient's forehead and the readout disabled. It's best to just keep the family happy, right?!

    The EU was/is furious at England for leaving. The EU needs London to be a perpetual blood donor to the dead patient, i.e. the EU. Think Deutsche Bank itself can continue pretending Greece, Italy, and Spain into economic existence? Think again.

    OK, so let's roll the patient to his right, then roll the patient to his left. Maybe we can keep Mr. E. U. Cadaver from developing pressure ulcers. The family would be upset otherwise. The patient is now insensitive to pain stimuli; nothing really matters to the dead, don't you see.

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  5. lonewolf

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    there is a whole wide world out there, it does not begin and end with the EU.
     
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  6. Old Geezer

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    I'm glad that England has broken away from the EU. All that the EU wants from England is its financial backing. There is no need to prop-up a person who is already dead.

    There are still sheeple who support the EU.

    In addition to England, Hungary and Austria are also tired of being lackeys to the EU.

    The EU was a poor concept from the get-go. Welfare states die, witness Greece, Italy, and Spain. There really is a whole wide world out there. Let the EU die.

    Welfare addicts will NEVER accept austerity. The masses of humans want something for nothing. That tragedy is one the factors that we preppers must put up with. If you have something for hard times, you will be hated. Another reason to conceal being prepared is that the knuckle-draggers will split your head wide open to take that for which you have worked. In this day and age, people who are responsible are deemed "privileged".

    https://www.worldtribune.com/d-c-mu...-rational-thinking-are-symptoms-of-whiteness/
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  7. lonewolf

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    The problem with the "european project " is it was a good idea to begin with, the concept of a "common market" so that countries that trade together would never go to war with each other again was a sound idea ( I actually voted for it in 1975) ,but after the Maastrict Treaty was signed in 1990 all the political crap started creeping in and Brussels had the idea of the EU as it then became being a nation state and ruling all of europe- by the Germans of course who have always wanted to rule Europe.
    thats what finally put a lot of English people against the whole thing and the final result was Brexit.
     
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  8. Pragmatist

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    Good morning all,

    I remember the Common Market and DeGaulle vetoing British membership in the club.
     
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  9. lonewolf

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    yes that went on for several years, it wasnt until degaulle was gone that we were finally accepted, given what we know now I wished we'd stayed out.
     
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    i don't understand everything about brexit but i do understand the need to be free as a nation from a tyrannical gov't telling
    everyone what to do and thats the EU....
     
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  11. Max rigger

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    If you look into it Wally you'll understand we never lost our freedom, in fact the UK and most of the EU are actually 'freeer' than the USA, we enjoy more personal freedoms. We never lost control of our borders we just managed them badly.

    The EU is in trouble at the moment, but the UK is heading into a deep economic shite pit due to covid and brexit. I've got an Irish passport so thankfully I'll remain an EU citizen.
     
  12. lonewolf

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    we DID lose control of our borders because of the EU "freedom of movement" policy, thankfully all that rubbish will end on 1st January, European criminals who served more than 12 months in jail will be barred from the UK.
     
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  13. Old Geezer

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    Free to be stabbed by the invaders

    Free to pay 3x the taxation rate of the USA

    And if you want to by a firearm, you have to ask Mommy and Daddy government for permission.

    Sheep feel like they are free to graze. That's just sheep mentality for you.
     
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  14. lonewolf

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    the whole of the South West apart from the urban enclaves of Plymouth and Exeter voted to Leave the EU, I think the only place in the South that Voted to remain by the most of its population was London and thats not really surprising .
     
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    To non-Brits, London no longer seems to be a part of England.

    My dad gave me a great impression of England. Stiff upper lip, sturdy spines, a bunch of fighters is the impression I got as a kid. Now, I see the "leaders" of England as a crew of castrators.

    It is a sign of terminal spiritual cancer when a "citizen" can go to jail for defending his home.
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  16. lonewolf

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    to the London elite London IS the whole of Britain, Londoners seem to feel more European than the rest of the country does, I have never considered myself to be a European, hell I dont even feel British, I am an ENGLISH man through and through and proud to be so.
     
  17. Max rigger

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    The UK is very multicultural now and thats a good thing, it means growth in our culture and not stagnation, it means change. Mixed race relationships are pretty much the norm, our children learn about other religions in school and its highly likely they have friends from various ethnic/religious backgrounds...thats the norm for them. Some older brits and people who don't 'know' the UK seem to cling on to some vision of an England that never really existed or certainly hasn't since post WW2.

    We're still a stoic bunch but have moved on and thats refreshing.
     
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    Multiculturism =

    Turning your little girls over to the foreign gangs to be abused. Don't pay attention to the Muslims stabbing people. Don't bring up the topic because it harms the pretense that multiculturalism is always a good thing. If you do bring up the topic and it is offensive to Big Brother, you go to jail.

    Free speech is permitted as long as it is "correct" speech. Translation, "Put your gonads in a plastic bag and turn them over to the government. It's for your own good."

    "Asian" = mainly Pakistani Muslim men

    Rotherham
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/1510-children-abused-in-rotherham-sex-scandal-new-report-says

    Manchester
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/manchester-asian-grooming-scandal

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/283100/recorded-rape-offences-in-england-and-wales/

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/...al-stabbings-while-police-focus-on-hate-crime

    "In 2016, police arrested a whopping 900 Syrians in England and Wales for crimes including rape and child abuse.

    "In the midst of the surge in violent crime, Detective Superintendent Richie Salter of Merseyside Police is now 'worried' that people are not joining his witch-hunt to promote a warped brand of diversity. That recalls the fact that a prominent Muslim Labour MP, Naz Shah, liked and retweeted a message to the victims of Muslim rape gangs to 'shut up for the good of diversity,' yet she remains in politics.

    "'At one time, police reported who was committing these violent crimes, which is essential in creating sound security policy. But now to do that is apparently 'offensive communication.' Britain is pouring astronomical resources into hunting down those who commit the crime of 'offensive communication.' London’s Muslim mayor, Sadiq Khan (with unsavoury connections himself to groups associated to Islamic terrorism) has spent millions of pounds in taxpayer money for a massive police witch-hunt against this 'offensive communication.' That is the bulk of what is referred to as 'hate crime.'”

    England rape gang logic:
    Rape gang member quote, “All white women are good for one thing, for men like me to f*** and use as trash, that is all women like you are worth.'”

    Ban knives!

    https://worldvoz.com/world-news/london-stabbings-2019-latest-knife-crime-statistics-and-attacks/

    https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/11...tring-of-islamic-extremist-terrorist-attacks/

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  19. Old Geezer

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  20. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Max,

    Prior to the PM getting job and wellprior to the Hong Kong riots, HK had a demographic component of British overseas passport holders who were ethnic subcontinent Indians. Had learned of restrictions against them moving to the UK.

    I'm an older non-Brit and remember the Northern Ireland multiculturalism issues.

    In all seriousness, did you and lad learn about the Islamic sects and their internal lethal confrontations ?
     
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  21. TMT Tactical

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    If you want "True Multicultural" benefits, then you import the best of the other groups. You don't import the dregs. What scientific benefit is there for inter-racial marriages? I hear a lot socialist dogma but no actual facts.
     
  22. Old Geezer

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    The numbers are the numbers irrespective who reports the hard statistics. The weak sheeple can stick their head in the sand and pretend, but the numbers are the numbers. Many folk are afraid to stand up to their invaders, thus more invaders arrive.

    Current stories are being wiped off the web due to political correctness attacks, so I had to go back a few years. Even a few years ago, the truth concerning being invaded was surfacing.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ted-rapists-murderers-Britain-immigrants.html

    Stockholm Syndrome

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/502169-culture-war-uk-us/
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  23. lonewolf

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    Multiculturalism may sound very laudible on paper but in reality its more like Many Cultures, a lot of cultures dont mix and you get almost a ghetto philosophy, I remember some years ago a politician being chastised for having the temerity to come into a Muslim "area", then we had the muslim patrols having a go at anyone not adhering to muslim cultural norms even if that person was non muslim and white. and of course the Pakistan grooming gangs of the Northern towns. so NO multiculturalism is not wonderful.
    Thankfully the rural areas of this great country have been mostly spared from this modern canker, nothing here for migrants, low pay and high costs and they seem to prefer city living.
     
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    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...-as-known-islamist-extremist-with-isis-links/

    "The man thought responsible for a double stabbing in Germany in early October is a known Syrian Islamic extremist who arrived during the 2015 migrant crisis, released from prison just five days before the attack, it has been revealed.

    "Two tourists enjoying the sights in the historic city of Dresden were attacked on October 4th, both receiving critical wounds. One man survived the assault but the second succumbed to his injuries — a murder which gained comparatively little media attention in Germany and abroad at the time.

    "Over two weeks after the killing, police made an arrest after DNA evidence on the murder weapon led to Syrian suspect ‘Abdullah A H H’. Shockingly, it has been revealed that despite the fact Abdullah was a known extremist and had been released from a juvenile prison just five days before the attack, security services were not monitoring him.

    "Comments from a police press conference that took place on Thursday regarding the arrest reported by German tabloid Bild reveal the security service’s admission that they failed to monitor the 20-year-old extremist. The paper reports Abdullah had been assessed by Germany’s equivalent of the FBI and found to be a “high” risk individual after he made declarations that he wanted to launch an attack against Germany. But regardless, while the service had the option to monitor the man 24 hours a day, it did not."
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  25. Max rigger

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    Same old nonsense on this thread.

    Integration? Yep its happening more and more certainly with 2nd/3rd generation immigrants. 'They' often do cluster together, ghettos but this is not always a bad thing, it can offer real protection to these communities and yes, it allows retention of their culture/language/food/traditions which is of course vital.

    A handful of militants tar the rest, a tiny tiny amount of Muslims are fanatical enough to kill people but that does not represent the Muslim faith. The overwhelming number of terrorist attacks committed in the USA stem from home grown white fanatics so does that mean all white Americans are terrorists? Well yes it does if you apply the logic of some forum members here but no if you live in the real world.

    Asian grooming gangs? Awful scum shites who I'd happily pull the trigger on and a factor that pees me off is you can't say Pakistani grooming gangs, oh no, that would be offensive to the Pakistani community to which I say tough tit, they are Pakistani, are Muslim call a spade a spade. This is a problem that needs more open discussion and needs to be addressed by the community who must recognise they have a major issue within. More black people are involved and commit serious crime in the UK from drugs to prostitution so again, 'we' and the black community need to be addressing these issues together and with more transparency. Drugs need to be decriminalised, people have been getting stoned since day one so lets take the profit out of it for criminals after all people ain't going to stop getting shite faced and its difficult to tell a 15/16 year old to go work in McDonalds and earn £300 a week when they can turn to crime and earn £3000 a week.

    There are major hurdles to overcome so lets not build walls that will prevent solutions to cultural/social integration because if you do you've lost the battle.
     
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  26. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Max,

    Ref "Drugs need to be decriminalized";

    It is easier to compress a liquid. Fortunes are made in the drug trade. The Trump administration is trying and there are a couple of success stories but drops in the barrel take a long time. The Oxycontin pharma maker, Purdue, is being forced into liquidation.

    Unless you clarify / "flesh out" some of your points, it's difficult to impossible to reply. Will you elaborate on "the overwhelming number" of domestic US terrorist events traced to US domestic fanatics.

    It is difficult - and dangerous - to arrange open discussions if your counterpart anticipated discussion partner will be the subject of a Fatwa.

    Please consider adding "transparency" to my need to understand your view. Sometimes the opaque is better to get problems solved. Some ethnic groups that do not integrate into overall society have their own system for keeping out trouble-makers.
     
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  28. Old Geezer

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    French multiculturalism, business as usual

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...ench-mayor-threatened-wake-teacher-beheading/

    "A town mayor is receiving protection from the national government after threats to behead him were painted on walls, the menacing messages coming just days after a teacher was decapitated in a Paris suburb.

    "Three different sets of graffiti were discovered around a Lyon suburb on Thursday, which referred to local police and the town’s mayor Jérémie Bréaud. French news magazine Paris Match reports that while the messages misspelt the mayor’s name, the intent was clear when they said: 'Jérémy Breaud we will behead you!'”

    "The French Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin, who has been at the forefront of responses since a French history teacher was beheaded in a Paris suburb last week, published a message of support for the mayor, saying he had been placed under protection."

    The mayor gets protection. What a shame it is that the people are disarmed and have to wait on police -- which is to say that their family gets to bury them.

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/10/...ers-to-death-converted-to-islam-18-months-ago

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/10/...-cartoons-macron-vows-they-will-not-divide-us

    https://koptisch.wordpress.com/2018/02/21/macron-verspricht-den-islam-in-frankreich-zu-reformieren/
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    Good evening Old Geezer,

    Besides all this being a potential murder ... presuming they're mentally competent ...

    it is also a cultural appropriation.

    It is the French who developed beheadings. Max Robespiere can elaborate.

    Those residents of Lyons are of a religion of peace.

    It is an outright cultural appropriation !
     
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  30. Old Geezer

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    Amusing point.

    However, the Arabs have lopping-off heads forever -- certainly long before Muhammad showed up. Hard to believe but the Arabian peoples were FAR more savage before Muhammad came to them. If a girl infant was the first-born, they would go bury her in the sand and let her die. The first born had to be a boy. Now Communist Chinese use ultrasound to determine the sex of a baby. If the baby in the womb is a girl, she is murdered via abortion. This is why the Chicoms have a surplus of over 50,000,000 males. Should China fight a war, they have PLENTY of expendable males. As per Margaret Sanger, the Democrats use abortion as a means of keeping the black folk population down to controllable levels.

    The French tried to sanitize and depersonalize beheadings by using the guillotine. The Arabians like their slashing of throats up-close and personal.
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    Good morning Old Geezer,

    Well received.
     
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