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  1. Pragmatist

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  2. lonewolf

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    the point?
     
  3. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Lonewolf,

    A vehicle evacuation means long delays sitting in traffic congestion. I believe this Zero RMP feature is already used on cars in the Singapore market. It works.

    I've got some places here that I'd love to coat with that anti-microbial product. A disaster, coupled with stress, places emphasis on infection control. This is a major problem I've identified. No problems with nitrogen packed rice but must be semi-healthy for dining.
     
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  4. lonewolf

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    when I joined this forum it was about prepping and survival post SHTF, these days it seems like its anything but, and i'm not the only one.
     
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    Good morning Lonewolf,

    From the masthead: "learn from each other", "a variety of survival skills", "and ideas".

    My complete agreement on some material showing up here such as militias. They are unlawful in Virginia.

    This morning I posted something on a new ambulance. The anti microbial coating is surely applicable for some preppers' consideration. If it's something packed and applied like, for example, anti-corrosion paint, I'd argue it's an idea appropriate for the prepper community.

    Another post; In re food supplies for submarines; There are several aspects to prepping. If I was teaching food inventories to a class of intermediate preppers, one field trip would be to a ship chandler and let the preppers see some gear used for food storage and inventory control. The actual food is often enough not at ship chandlers. Talking to some people who worked food supplies has value - or, at least, could have value.

    Not needing pulp insurance policies in one's go-bag/BOB is prepper-orientated. See Newbie section.

    May I ask you to list some specifics of non-appropriate material for the Forum ?
     
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    I just think the whole forum is moving away from the original idea and getting too bogged down on government policy and things that most preppers will never have access to or will ever require, for example coatings on ambulances.
    I don't know about military ships, but knowing someone that used to be catering officer on ships none of their food stores came from chandlers.
    I have seen preppers forums go downhill because they became a general "talking shop" and ignored the usual prepping/forums topics, I do not want to see this one go the same way, however nothing is forever except death.
     
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  7. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Lonewolf,

    You must work with Daniel on the criteria for posting/discussing material here.

    I must contest the term "most preppers". The variables are numerous in the prepper community. Otherwise, we are a Boy Scouts / Girl Scouts / 4-H club forum.

    Infection control using a product appropriate for ambulances is surely advanced-level prepping. In my case, the product, if available in small quantities, is a minor cost - when compared to medical treatments. During a SHTF scenario, there are no medical facilities available here.

    I clearly wrote that food is not obtained from chandlers here. In Singapore, my supply boats did obtain both supplies and food from the same chandler. Chandlers do have food storage containers and related supplies for preppers having large quantities of provisions. Some preppers have small group arrangements and not just the immediate family at the BOP or evacuation vehicle.

    Whatever the MSF.COM management policy is, I will try my best to comply.
     
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  8. lonewolf

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    I have always said that prepping and survival to a Brit are not the same as an American, and I think that may be the problem here.
    to most, prepping and survival are more basic in their nature, food, water, shelter, first aid and security, anything that fits into those headings.
    some of the posts have I think become more philosophical in nature rather than literal.
    the members will make or break any forum, we will just have to see which applies here.
     
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  9. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Lonewolf,

    Understand; agree. The British and the North American prepper experience and requirements have some major differences.

    Had mentioned here at Forum I have an inflatable boat to evacuate from here. During - and definitely post - SHTF situations, the roads are blocked by stranded cars stuck in flood waters. Most preppers do not develop the boat matters because most do not have water as an evac route (and frequently it being an exclusive mode for evac).

    I do ask that evacuations ... all categories ... from leaving the 3 level villa and standing outside during a fire to a long haul out of area drive ... be added to list of basic prepper categories.

    My major headaches here are medical/health and security. In SHTF, both are categorized under YOYO.
     
  10. lonewolf

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    rivers in England all lead to the sea, so an inflatable wouldn't be much good, would need a cabin cruiser or a sail boat at the very least, I once went fishing with a friend in an inflatable, a water skier went past and nearly capsized us, I haven't been near an inflatable since!
    i'm not a sailor myself, I prefer the woods to the sea.
     
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    Here's a bit of information about the topic of anti-microbial agents that apply to survivalism -- specifically the metal silver.

    Many already know this; to you, sorry for the boredom. Silver has some rather significant anti-bacterial action -- don't ask me about the chemistry. Settlers moving west used to flip silver dollars into their water barrels. In today's high-tech water purification systems, silver is used extensively. Katadyn water purifiers have interior surfaces lined with silver.

    General info
    http://www.doulton.ca/silver.html

    Scientific publication (dry reading):
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2364932/

    Colloidal silver for pink eye (can't make it to doc. for antibiotics):
    https://holisticzine.com/colloidal-silver-for-pink-eye

    Benefits / risks
    https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/colloidal-silver#benefits

    Col. silver aids antibiotics
    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/07/03/antibiotics-colloidal-silver.aspx

    This site is promoting some product of theirs, however it contains useful information
    https://drjockers.com/colloidal-silver-immune-benefits/

    https://www.quora.com/What-differen...ainless-steel-silver-copper-clay-or-glass-jug

    Don't forget benefits of copper containers (oxidized copper is, however);
    https://www.thehealthsite.com/disea...nking-water-from-a-copper-vessel-p214-123443/

    Taking care of copper cookware:

    https://ezinearticles.com/?Poisonou...-Care-of-Brass-and-Copper-Cookware&id=1912771
     
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