Property Buying Surge In Key Reputed Survialist Areas

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  1. poltiregist

    poltiregist Master Survivalist
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    Information from a realter dealing with properties in my area . Even as people deal with lost jobs and uncertainty they are buying up property in the more survivable locations . There is an increased shortage of suitable survival retreats . I would think carefully about buying that survival retreat . Solar panels can be put up most anywhere but drinkable forever water source may be more difficult to find . My personal opinion " we are entering a lull or " the eye of the storm " before the virus effects the world economy that will make the last two or three months look like " the good old days " . It seems some other folks are thinking along the same lines , thus the surge in buying survival retreats .
     
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  2. poltiregist

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    I have the talk show "Rush Limbog " playing in the back ground as I scan this forum . He just said there is a surge since the pandemic of people leaving cites . It would be safe to say a percentage of those people are heading out to more survivable locations . We saw this during the Virus Panic . Hordes of people swarmed into my area with their bug out bags , campers and tents . The governor took action and booted them out of the state , threating to tow off their vehicles and outlawing them a place to stay such as camp grounds , national forests , state forests , cabins and motels . A heads up as to what is trending is something our members should be aware of .
     
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  3. Sourdough

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    Exactly how I expect it to transpire. It really say's something when those who have been at this for many decades, are checking to be sure the hinges on the storm shutters function securely.
     
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  4. Alaskajohn

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    City flight worries me for a lot of good reasons. Stupid idiots doing stupid things like starting wildfires, wounding and wasting game, contaminating water and other resources, etc. I live in the middle of nowhere, and the cold winters keep the idiots in check. Even in normal times, we do our best to run anyone off with prejudice who is not from around here.
     
  5. Old Geezer

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    Heading back to my home state appeals to me in that people who are not from there are always considered to be outsiders. "Exactly where are you from, mister?"
     
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  6. Alaskajohn

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    When I lived on the bayou, the area was settled by western man just after 1700. I recall being told that if a person can’t point to at least three generations in the cemetery, they were outsiders. Come to think of it, that was the same mindset in my Appalachian origins.
     
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    1. Old Geezer
      Yep.
       
      Old Geezer, May 21, 2020 at 11:46 PM
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    2. Dalewick
      Still is. Thank you Lord!
       
      Dalewick, May 22, 2020 at 10:56 PM
  7. randyt

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    water is a biggie for me. I was on a forum once and a fella was talking about what to look for in a offgrid place. I suggested make sure there is a water supply. Another member came along claiming to have a place in New Mexico and he hauls water to his place and it's no big deal? To me it is a big deal. I was at a outing years back, there is a spring at the location. The spring bubbled out of the ground and ran off in a little stream . One of the guys there was washing his dishes in the pool of water where it bubbled out of the ground. I thought, you have to be kidding me. What a moron, it someone needs to be taught not to do that why waste time with someone that stupid.
     
  8. lonewolf

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    water is more important than even food in a survival situation, one can live for weeks without food but only days without water, and clean water is even more of an issue.
     
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  9. poltiregist

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    I agree with randyt . A few houses in my area have zero running water . Some haul their water in from a stream or spring . There is even a guy that makes a living hauling in water to their homes for a fee . I suspect most of these folks sitting there with not any water that they could access by foot still consider themselves preppers . Sure they may have a few extra cans of food stuck under the bed but if for ANY reason motorized transportation was lost , within a few days they would be in a bind . For those dependent on a community water system , if for ANY reason that was lost , within a few days they would be in a bind . I am not a lab guy but know a lot of babies died a few years back from drinking nasty , stagnant water . Within three miles of me I know where the remains of three old homesteads are that water seeps out of the ground nearby that once was their water supply . The water flow from each of those locations " to me " don't seem strong enough that I would feel comfortable about drinking it . I do have a back up spring but the water flow from it is relatively strong . The point being those planning to drink stagnant water from barrels or whatever are braver than I am . If we have members on here that drink stagnant water from barrels and such I would be interested in hearing about their results .
     
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  10. randyt

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    relying on someone else for water is a huge dependency in my opinion. Not acceptable, short term maybe, while developing a source.
     
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  11. Sourdough

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    I did a thread so time back asking........"Do you'all have a list of potential problem people in your area"...??? Not just a vague type of person who could be a problem, but detailed info about "Billy'bob" the bad-ass. How tall, estimated weight, type hat generally wears, etc..

    How do they walk, do they need eye glasses, do they wear rags daily, or camo, etc..

    A guy likely to need water might be one color code, a guy who beats his wife, dog, horse, etc. might rate a different code.
     
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  12. Dalewick

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    I never saw your earlier post, but yes. I keep track of every scumbag with anger issues, drug dealers, thieves, etc. in my AO. They usually live there lives as usual, until they prey on the wrong neighbor. That has consequences. There isn't that many of them so it's easy to keep track. It a TEOTWAWKI event was to occur, most would be "requested" to leave the area. Most would understand the consequences of not leaving.

    Dale
     
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  13. lonewolf

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    if the area is that bad why do you continue to live there? just a thought.
    knew someone who lived in a bad area in London, he got out and now lives on the south coast in a better area.
     
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    You "MISSED" the point. Everywhere has people who are more likely then others to be a problem, a risk, a danger, an annoyance, etc. in a SHTF environment. It is all relevant. You may even be a possible problem to someone else. The point is to be able to identify someone approaching even if their face is covered. By how they walk, move, carry themselves, dress, etc..

    Knowing who is on who's team is important. Knowing who is envious of you, dislikes your political preference, who thinks preppers are scum, you painted their home a color they think is ugly, thinks your dog pooped in their yard, your wife has a screechy voice, etc. is important.

    The goal is to not be watching someone approaching, and trying to figure out who they are, till they are too damn close, and you finally realize it is "Bad'bart" who loathes you.

    There are people who don't trust me, simply because I don't do recreational drugs. They even have some level of fear-caution, that I am not one of them. They are careful of me. Post SHTF they could likely use that belief that I am different then them, to justify some violent action, that same action, they would not do to another recreational drug user, because they were more like themselves.
     
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  15. lonewolf

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    there may be one or two people here who could be an "annoyance" post SHTF but that wasn't what that particular post said, it sounded like the area was populated by gangsters and drug dealers and other bad people, if I was in an area that bad I would leave.
     
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  16. Dalewick

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    Many of the people on here in urban areas live either in or adjacent to areas that are populated with gangsters, drug dealers, rapist and worse. They may not have the luxury of moving away from there home. They need to realize these people are there since in a bad situation these same people become lethal. If you lived in London, wouldn't you keep track of these types of people?

    Dale
     
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  17. lonewolf

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    if I lived in London I would shoot myself, I could not live there it would send me mad.
    I was brought up in a city but I've always been a country boy at heart, 21 years ago I left and never looked back. if I can do it then anyone can.
     
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    True........but my point is more towards identifying "NOW" these people in one's area. So as to avoid having to sort it out later, under more trying conditions. We are preconditioned to be seduced into false security about the clothing people wear. Think the Clergy clothing, the State Trooper uniform, the clown uniform, etc.. We need to see clearly to assess the risks.

    I don't remember where I first read about this, but the person was even suggesting to have a notebook about local potential problem people, even down to photographs, and details like scars or limps or lisps, etc..
     
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  19. Alaskajohn

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    Using this thread as an opportunity to assess my situation, I see a slightly different threat from my location. Within a few miles in either direction of the only road through the valley, there are only 3 full time resident families, including us. The other two families I consider allies and we work together and trade all the time. I’m the youngest at about 60. My threat assessment is we are all on the older end of the spectrum. While all of us work hard, age creates limitations.

    Expanding my range to the full 25 mile stretch of road with a cluster of about 200 full time residents, most are salt of the earth hardworking folks, with perhaps half in the same age bracket. I’m one of the newbs to the community having moved in about 6 years ago. I wonder what others think of me? There are a couple of folks who everyone knows about that will be trouble. Most of us in this stretch are of the same mindset. Self reliance and self sufficiency are hallmarks, with a heavy sense of wanting to be left alone to the work and drama. Most will give the shirt off their back to help someone else who needs help. But trouble makers are a different matter. I would think they wouldn’t last too long if they acted out in a WROL.
     
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  20. Dalewick

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    I've done that for my country. I have no need to conduct reconnaissance on my neighbors while compiling dossiers on the bad eggs. I have memory enough for that.

    Dale
     
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  21. Old Geezer

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    When it hits the fan, shoot any bad guys trying to take your sh##.

    There's been some bad move near to me. One fellow I wanted to trust recently put his wife into the hospital and is now doing a bit of time. Good lesson for me. Err to mistrust.

    Somebody opened our back screen door, but not the proper door. I'd heard somebody messing with that door. I was 16 years old. Got straight up out'a bed (it was like 4 or 5 am) loaded my Spanish double barrel twelve and stood at port arms in the living room which gave me a perfect shot through the kitchen to that door. I figured that somebody was gonna break the glass and reach in to unlock that door. It was my plan to separate their hand from their arm. I'd blown scrap sections of 2" x 4" boards into two pieces with Mr. Double and figured I could certainly take off somebody's hand. The shot would have been a whole lot easier than taking down squirrels in tall trees with a 20 ga. at which I'd had plenty of practice.

    No body broke the glass and I went back to bed. Told my parents about it the next day. Dad said, "Wi ain't you just our little hero!" Dad found out that it was a new paper-boy who didn't realize that you do not open a back door in our neck of the woods.

    Know when to fire. Know when to hold fire. On our high school rifle range, Sgt. Major called the shots. I respected the uniform and respected the man inside that uniform.
     
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    Time was that water source was THE locator of cabins. Mountains of S.Appalachia, cabins were begun where the water shot out the side of a mountain. Drive a big old iron pipe back in them rocks to see if you can get a decent flow. If so, you seal around that pipe with cement. Build the cistern house about the pipe. The kitchen is built off this structure. The cabin is then built encapsulating the kitchen/cistern. The coal stove goes in the middle of the house for heat. The kitchen wood stove is for cooking. Your smokehouse is well away from your cabin.

    Streams are where the game gathers, where snakes come out to sun themselves on the big smooth rocks.

    Valley people got their water from wells.

    The girls wear shoes on Sunday. Men wear their better hats that day. Women's straw hats festooned with wildflowers, calico dresses, "Come to worship, oh children of the Lord."

    I'm standing in my great-grandmother's house. Some wondrous smell is coming from the stove. Squirrel is so good. Ramps cut up in the frying pan. Groundhog is too gamey. Smoked ham is divine. Squirrel gravy and cat-head biscuits, I'm nearing Heaven.





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  23. Richard Earley

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    I at least have 2 large rivers near me the closest one is the Clear Water the second is the Snake...
     
  24. lonewolf

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    where are these "key reputed survivalist areas"??
     
  25. Blitz

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    I'm looking to sell my house and buy somewhere else. The real estate agent came round on Friday and stated that people from the city are wanting to get out of the rat race because of the coronavirus and are lapping up properties in rural areas. Makes sense when I think about it. Who on earth would want to live in a city? Everyone moans about the social distancing, queuing up in supermarkets, etc, in the city. My son got into an argument with a security guard at a supermarket who told him he couldn't enter the store. Absolutely ridiculous. We don't have any issues here. It's like any other day, business as usual.

    When I look for properties to buy though, there's absolutely nothing available to suit. They're as rare as hen's teeth.
     
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