Quarantine And Distance-learning Schoolin'

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  1. Pragmatist

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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/opin...-has-changed-education-selin-davis/index.html


    Good morning all,

    Per ...

    The point of school has changed much more than author Lisa Davis realizes. Wait 'till her 8 y.o. daughter has to register for the draft and high school ending circa the 16 year olds.

    Not familiar with "neurodiversity".

    One major problem is the teaching of "a dance move". Whether it is for the minuet or a square dance, the kids just can't compete with the foreign competition by knowing about the bunny hop.

    If more than 1 school child at home, do they all get school district provided PCs ? I'm an IT illiterate and still don't know how 2 to 3 can connect to the web on the same line. Isn't there a limit to uploading and downloading material ? Plus, some parents need web use for their work.

    Here in this rural school district, some parents are disabled and can't guide the kids on their web classes. Don't know how this is addressed.

    A major part of the distance learning problem is United Federation of Teachers. I recall this was Al Schanker's racket in the NYC schools.
     
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  2. varuna

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    So what the problem with connecting everyone in the household at the same time? Everyone in the household already have their own device. This is the year 2020 (1st Year of The Great Plague). You seriously need to adapt while retaining the old wisdom, meaning applying old wisdom using new tools
     
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  3. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Varuna,

    The new tools plus the needed intangibles like the web connection have a cost. Many Americans do not have the money or the skills or health to set up PCs. Nor do many have the supervisory time to monitor the school kids. I am discussing a better than average scenario. (Many kids do not have traditional families.)

    Many schools in the US are, in fact, warehouses with a cafeteria.

    Everyone in a household cannot concurrently be online in some circumstances. Broadband / wifi is not universal like electricity. Here in my backwater I do not have broadband / wifi. During adverse weather conditions I frequently lose my satellite connection.

    Families with jobs and school kids are now in a new, unstructured and unfunded environment. Who is there to ask for guidance ? Here, in Virginia, one of the better states compared to "up north", it is a mess.
     
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  4. varuna

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    Same here, but laptop that is connected to the internet using mobile broadband is common sight even in the slum. While the less affordable cost could be attribute to monopoly practice.

    Ever consider that maybe that is one of the root problem of the society there?

    Change to using Ku-band instead of Ka-band. My team use Ku-band even in the deep jungle of Borneo and Sulawesi and the only problem we get is from attacking boar or curious over size man eater snakes rather than the weather.
     
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  5. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Varuna,

    Satellite connections have other requirements besides the technical.

    Even here in the slums, wealth can be seen. Expensive cars and music systems are common.

    Yes, had considered the US change from the extended family to the nuclear family to no family as some type of root cause of problems here.

    Monopoly practices in the US ?! The US is now a socialist mercantile society.
     
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  6. Max rigger

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    You don't need fancy broadband for School work, most of it don't rely on streaming videos etc which chews up data. The UK is pretty good overall for broadband coverage.

    My brothers got three sprogs, 5, 10 and 13 and he did need to buy the youngest a laptop but they are all doing fine, the schools are putting up a lot of work for the ankle biters to work through. His misses is pulling her hair out, there is only so much Peppa Pig an adult can watch in a day before it starts to grate.
     
  7. Old Geezer

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    Hey, nobody has mentioned this. Go to the link and look at the high school sign. This is Brothel High School. Why did they name this school after a cat-house?! Their sign even has a cat on it! What's going on here !!!!!!!

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/opin...-has-changed-education-selin-davis/index.html

    Wait ..... hmmm ............ ohhh ... wait a minute.

    I'm looking at the sign again. It's Boathell High School not Brothel High School. Sorry.


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  8. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Max,

    True, but some parents / legal guardians / adults living in the house, DO download streaming videos precluding the kids to have access - presuming the school district already provided them PCs from public funds. Much of rural America does not have broadband unless citizen-purchased.

    If a school child - all the way up to high school years - does not participate in the public school classes, whether in a school building or via IT, the school board loses $$$. Social workers get assigned to check on enrolled school kids.

    Close to nothing was set up here for distance learning. Add to this the adults in house could be disabled and no supervision for kids. Add to this the kids need to be fed.

    Foot Note: Insufficient number of social workers to check on school kids. People can relocate with kids during school sessions. Relocations are in different school districts.
     
  9. varuna

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    And how would education system there provide education during this time of plague? Education is two way road NOT one way single lane road.
     
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  10. Max rigger

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    Pretty shit parents if they don't give children first dabs on the internet in my opinion.

    There is a scheme kicking off in the UK to provide low income families with laptops and 4G routers which is a great move and there is some sort of free food/meals system for low income families but don't know anything about that. A difficult time to be a parent these days, especially single parents who need extra support.
     
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    I don't know much more than you about UK home schooling other than what I've read in the media and what my brother has told me, of course its a two way road but circumstances dictate actions and overall the UK is doing OK. Easier for us because in general and during 'normal' times UK education runs off the same nationwide platform (with some regional differences in Scotland and Wales) which simplifies things in setting an online syllabus, no idea how it works in the States but I'd guess its far more fragmented/state by state sort of thing? My boy is all grown up so no impact on me but talk is Schools opening in one way or another end of June but I'd guess it'll be September.

    Talking of my little brother, he's a copper and life is pretty good for him just now, crime rate has dropped through the floor, much less road traffic but a rise in 'domestics' with partners beating the crap out of each other at home and a rise in domestic abuse in general...apart from that he's having a quiet life :)
     
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  12. lonewolf

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    I don't think schools in the UK will restart until the new term in September, we aren't that far off when the normal school summer holidays would have started anyway.
    as for Police, yes crime is down but they are now having to sort out those idiots who aren't abiding by the lockdown rules, the "it dosent apply to me" brigade.
     
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  13. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Max,

    My opinion also about parents not giving priority to children - might not even be their biological children. Besides poverty, a major problem is that all adults living in the housing arrangement might not be related at all to the parents/children.

    Mentally visualize looking at a web picture of a triangle and some narrative while the stereo can be heard south of the Chunnel.

    There has been some talk here in the upstart colonies that single parents lose child custody. This current arrangement is a large public sector cost and it still produces criminals.
     
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  14. varuna

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    Sound like huge payday for whoever bag the contract to supply those laptops & the network peripherals

    Your mistaken, I'm not American nor do I live in CONUS. I'm a poor third worlder here (living under $5 / day). I even resort to eat raw animals and drink their blood to substitute drinking water, also eat raw insect larva more than an occasion. Poor me :(

    Opening up school by September is a huge unnecessary risk. I don't see this plague going to recede until the end of Q4 2020. Where I live, the gov't already signaled that school will maintain distance learning until end of the this year. And personally I think its better that way, because it is always better to be error on the side of caution.
     
  15. Max rigger

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    No offence varuna, you talk like a yank so made an assumption, sorry about that mate.

    I doubt it will be one big payday sort of deal, my guess is funds will be allocated to various local authority and buying will be regionally sourced but thats only my guess.

    My new telly arrived at 08:10 this morning, its as big as a coffin (70") so I'm making lamb curry and will chill out and watch Contagion followed by A Bridge Too Far :)

    Keep Safe all.
     
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  16. lonewolf

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    I hope you had a big wall to put that telly on MAX!:D
    our's is an old one we got second hand, works okay, its the programmes I hate- why are the all repeats? don't know why I pay a tv licence!
     
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  17. varuna

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    There are only several brands in the market that still in the laptop business with Lenovo and Acer typically being the cheapest (value for money), while the rest are either no longer in business or realign to mobile device (phone or tablet)

    I hope that 70" screen of yours is HDR10 compatible (Dolby Vision just ain't worth the money), and either DTS or Dolby audio certified

    BTW If you like classic title, I also recommend Das Boot (1981 Director Cut)
     
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    My typo its 75" Samsung TU7100, audio via a Sonos Beam soundbar.

    Das Boot is an excellent production as is Der Untergang and I'll be playing them in a cinema very near me in the next few days :)
     
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