Safe Sex In Post Apocalyptic World

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  1. lonewolf

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    in a serious SHTF event the resulting survival rate may be quite low, also do you know if you can trust the other person? it could be a "honeypot" trick and he/she has an accomplice hiding somewhere, in a SHTF event trust is going to be in short supply, the situation may not be as simple as you think it is.
    in that sort of event you need to think with your head and not your hormones!!;)
     
  2. Ystranc

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    Yes LoneWolf, I would certainly suspect an ulterior motive if someone expresses an interest in having sex with you.:D
     
  3. TexDanm

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    With the population of the world decimated and the average lifespan going back to below 40 safe sex will mean having as many children as possible. Plan B will be extinction of those races and groups to stupid and weak to go on. In the short term you will need to be careful but as soon as things settle down we will either be fruitful and multiply or we will become extinct.
     
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  4. Old Geezer

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    OK, I'm gonna talk about human nature, therefore many of you will now want to stop reading. I often come across as cynical, however do trust me on this, I am far darker of soul than the word "cynical" could ever describe. So now again I do warn you, you may wish to stop reading.

    The world drops into a "who really wants to live now" situation. Things aren't just bad. People become creatures making zombies look refined in their behavior. It is bad and then some. Sadistic cross-dressing necrophiliacs soil their pants just looking out their front windows. It's bad, boys and girls. It's bad.

    Someone steals a slice out your chewing gum pack. They must die. You beat them until they spray bile out they eyes. That's the beginning. Now you start into the really sick set of violence you have built up over the last week and a'half you've gone without killing anyone. Your behavior descends into realms unknowable. A mortician begins to vomit as does your human-eating canine best-friend, Dahmer. You are out of breath and covered in wet stuff once belonging to your gum-stealing enemy -- your now room-temperature enemy.

    What, other than an ephemeral, though warm, sense of satisfaction, will now befall you? Love, my friend. Love.

    Across the room and out the darkness approaches two, now three, women who have been aroused by your psychotic violence. What is most alluring to women?! A keen dresser; a man who knows how to wear an Italian-tailored silk suit, a military uniform? A man who knows which cologne to wear, what words to say and how to say them? No, no, no. It is the monster. Women love monsters. Become a monster and whereas God may no longer love you, women will.
     
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  5. TexDanm

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    To some extent I agree with you. There is a real reason why nerds have less success with the ladies than the neanderthals on the football team. Even though down the road the nerd is going to own the fancy cars that the ex football players will wash and wish for the young ladies are still drawn by the great hunter muscled often mindless men.

    While women mature physically earlier than men they seem to operate psychologically on a much more primitive set of operating parameters. I've often listened to women that were griping about how men are so mean and act so tough and they wish they were more sensitive. I usually point out to them that they wouldn't have ever dated a gentle sensitive young man on a bet and that men are the way they are because women insist on it. If all of a sudden the cheerleaders were hanging all over the captain of the chess and debate teams and were more interested in the poets that the weight lifters then all men would be trying to be that way.

    Unfortunately for the nerds if things collapse most them won't be well prepared to survive...but then again being an ignorant uneducated fool that likes to fight isn't going to work to well either.

    I have a rather jaded view of a lot of this. I was in all the advanced nerd classes, play chess and write poetry AND played football. I was big, strong and fast but in general I usually enjoyed the company of the smarter less ignorant people over my team mates. I often regret my decisions back then. I spent too much time trying to be things that I really wasn't. If I had it all to do over I would be the captain of the chess team, a published poet and might have bone hips instead of steel ones and knees that didn't hurt all the time.
     
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  6. lonewolf

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    well I have been married 3 times with many relationships in between, but never mind, personal abuse seems to be your stock in trade these days.
     
  7. Ystranc

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    I've only married once, and I wouldn't trade one second of it.
     
  8. lonewolf

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    12years, 5 years, and 20 years-so far, maybe i'm getting the hang of it at last!!
     
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  9. Old Geezer

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    I'm a full blown monster. She has stayed with me for over 40 years.

    No other relationships, though women do come to me and spill out their troubles and sins. Apparently and this long ago, I must have entered into some dark priesthood. Women, beasts of the woods, and raptors of the sky come to me. Just yesterday, an enormous hawk swooped down from the sky and snatched up some cute furry creature -- this display occurred right in front me while I was driving. Just this past weekend a hawk flew in front of me while I was crossing through some mountain passes. It held its course such that I could witness its nobility then swooped straight up and took a perch in a tree.

    I give thanks.
     
  10. Old Geezer

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    It is not that women want monsters just for themselves. They gather unto themselves monsters to protect their turf so that their children can feed. And monsters make fat healthy babies in the tummies of mommies.

    Why do men attack each other over land? Friend, it is for their women. And the women for their babies. What is at the core of war? Cute pudgy babies who giggle and coo.
     
  11. lonewolf

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    there is one adage that one should remember when being approached by strange women for sex in the apocalypse :" if it sounds too good to be true it probably is!":rolleyes:
     
  12. TexDanm

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    One marriage was plenty. We are 43 years and running smooth. She is rather strong natured. Worked 25 years in prison more than half of them had her dealing with men on Death Row and even they didn't mess with her or want to piss her off. She is pretty much fearless and I never have to wonder if she has my back. Occasionally I would meet someone that worked with her and several told me that I must be a tough son of a gun. I just laughed and thanked them and the inmates because she got all her irritation out dealing with them and was sweet as honey to me when she got home. I will say this there's never a dull moment around her. Never a moment's regrets.
     
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  13. watcherchris

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    Texdanm,

    Interesting statement you have made here...


    There is an author named Warren Farrell....who wrote a very interesting book on this topic of men and women.

    Why Men are the way they are

    https://www.amazon.com/Why-Men-Are-Way-They/dp/042511094X

    I have a copy around here somewhere...

    Warren Farrell....does several U Tube videos on this topic.


    The woman I see...does not like to go into Home Depot or Lowes. She says theses are men stores. I corrected her by telling her that most of these men are going there to get products to improve their homes for their women and children. That very few men with a woman and children have a "Man Cave" as do I .

    Now my co worker...is planning his "Man Cave " now that his only child has left home and gotten married. I will be observing closely how this will work out.


    Warren Farrell extensively covers the concept of so many men picking up on a woman's "Clues and Cues" to run the next touchdown for her and children....with little or no help from her or the children. This from todays women of "equality."

    He also states that when this last touchdown has been run...the next one is being worked upon and the proper clues and cues dropped in order to substitute your touchdown plays with hers....under the guise that you think it is your idea.

    Now...there is nothing inherently wrong with running "Touchdowns" but the point here is how this works out with women of "equality." The strategy...the subtlety.

    Also covered here in this topic of running touchdowns is the aspect to Risk Taking and how it differs in women ..and men ...in particular women of "Equality."

    Covered here is also the psychology of female spending and shopping verses male spending and shopping....and the Advertisers/Groomers/Psychologists behind it in marketing out here.

    And in the middle of all of this is sex and sexuality ...as capital or strategy ....the difference in Commitment and the "Appearance of Commitment" and whether many men are trained to spot the difference.

    This aspect alone...in a SHTF or TEOTWAWKI...can be the difference in life and death for a male if he does not know or understand. ....real commitment or only the "Appearance of Commitment."

    Are males with a primarily television and movie education..in running touchdowns ....even capable of knowing and understanding this???

    I bring this up...because I know many men who were still trying out ...running touchdowns for the trophy women into their 50s.....rather than a woman who had something to offer more than sex and beauty.


    The long and short of what I am saying here.....good times and bad....is that this knowledge is for "Always." Not just for SHTF or TEOTWAWKI...because it is in fact survival.


    Some of you on here ...verily need to pull your heads out of your backsides.

    Cause I am here to tell you....the women have the sex and sexuality angle ....figured out more than most men and by far.


    There are two factors in the sex/sexuality arena.. I have found which get women to wake up more than anything else....and again I learned this from Older women..not the younger ones.

    A certain amount of Rejection....you do not Try out for the team...run the touchdowns... they are trying to put on you..clues and cues ...and the other is "Competition."
    Many women strongly need the feeling of "Taming " a man....getting him to run for them and often their children...the touchdown. And sex, sexuality, beauty ..is often the capital in this "Taming Investment."

    Women understand 'competition' from a far more primitive survival instinct and thinking apparatus...than most men will ever understand it.

    And this is true particularly in Western Social structures where women have more freedom to carry on than in older social structures.

    So many things in Western social structure are backwards from what most males think....and the feminists are trying to make them even more backwards and hold the entire social structure hostage and in bondage to them. This will spell disaster for both women and men.

    To me ...much of today's maleness...just like femaleness...has been perverted....merchandized to worthlessness..to a sales receipt. This is not being a male or manliness to me.

    And so too ...male and female sexuality. It like so many other things....has become demonic in its perverted nature....selling the very souls of males and females to this fake merchandizing template....even selling our children's souls from younger and younger ages.
    Someone is trying to bring even our children into sex and sexuality from younger and younger ages. They are deliberately stealing the childhood away from our children...and too soon into adulthood.

    Now I am describing this sales/merchandizing template or pattern of operation ...verses the truth of being male and female...and substituting another practice....to make people better consumers..not better people.

    That is the difference....and the divorce statistics bear some of this out.


    We have become a people and culture who ignorantly define ourselves by what we consume...not by what we know...or think. And someone out here is trying very hard to do our thinking for us. And sex and sexuality has become, for many, the tool as capital to reach these consumer goals.

    This will not change in SHTF or TEOTWAWKI.


    Remember something here.....you males who can only think from an "Oil Shortage Mentality".....


    How many women do you personally know ...for whom if you opened their "Tool Box"... have only sex, sexuality, and beauty tools and knowledge in their tool box???

    Other than that they have no real job skills...their box is empty... and they have real life resumes as long as both arms and legs. They cannot hold a job ...because of their limited skill set in their tool box.

    They are investing only in these tools in their tool box....and when the Biology runs out and it strikes midnight Cinderella....they will be in big time trouble ....if they have not found an ignorant male willing to run touchdowns...forever...to control and master these males under the guise of "Equality and even Love."

    To many women ...sex and sexuality "is survival." And it matters not how much education or how many degrees they have...they all know this ...though they may not let on and in particular to men.

    And don't forget today....this world is working heavily to feminize the males too. Think long and hard on that one.


    Some of you need to verily wake up....from your Ishmaelite slumber....it shows in these posts.

    If you do not know this .....todays women will lead the men....not the other way around.

    While you are running around...after the next touchdown and taking 'all" the risks.

    This is called "Male Expendability and Disposability." And you can see it happening out here big time....if you can see and think further than the grid iron.

    In SHTF or TEOTWAWKI....you will still need to think further than the grid iron.

    If you can do this and succeed...you will have all the sex you will ever want or need....you will get tired of it....and desire something in life....really valuable. And it isn't sex.


    My .02

    Watcherchris

    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  14. Ben Brown

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    I'll be stocking up on condoms for when the SHTF. If you noticed after the Hawaiian nuclear alert, Pornhub's visitor rate spiked incredibly, the majority of visitors were from Hawaii. It seems like when the stress comes, so does the need for a bit of bedtime entertainment.

    For me though, I hope to be taking advantage of this market. Condoms in Venezuela (suffering an economic collapse) have skyrocketed from 70cents to more than $20 for one condom. What a lucrative business!
     
  15. lonewolf

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    i'd rather stock up on food than condoms myself.
     
  16. watcherchris

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    In normal times....for the knowledgeable , experienced, wise, and thinking man....and also in SHTF and TEOTWAWKI.....the most valuable commodity to get from a woman...even a woman with children........................

    Is Peace!!!


    Not Piece.



    Wake up people. Think........don't emote from an "Oil Shortage Mentality!!"


    Watcherchris
     
  17. TexDanm

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    Yeppers, me too...Being an old fart does simplify some things.
     
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  18. lonewolf

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    yeah, being a grumpy old git has its uses sometimes!
     
  19. TexDanm

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    The thing about all of this is that unfortunately for the ladies a major change and collapse of our current system is going to affect them a lot more than it will the males. The entire women's liberation movement hinged on the ability to control and avoid unwanted pregnancies. A woman can't have much of a career if she is preggers all the time.

    While condoms work women were not truly freed from unwanted pregnancies until the advent of "the pill". Another thing is that without modern antibiotics Syphilis will make a come back so those condoms, they won't just be for birth control. VD will be a real problem until we start making antibiotics and have doctors again.

    It wasn't many years ago that before you could get married both people had to have a blood test for VD to get a license. When there was no real cure VD was a terrible gift to give for a wedding gift! It was so bad thgat the government was involved.

    At some point people will want kids again and lots of them will be welcome. Humanity has always been good at repopulating after wars and such.
     
  20. Old Geezer

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    Any more, there is no such thing as safe sex.

    Maybe post-SHTF, there will be a return to religious beliefs and civilized behavior. As long as people behave like animals, venereal diseases will thrive.

    Fifty percent of the viruses within the human papillomavirus realm are cancer-causing. The rates of cervical cancer are on the rise and will continue to do so. The rate of rectal cancer among homosexual men is 6x that of the male heterosexual population.
     
  21. TexDanm

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    Sorry but if religious belief mattered there wouldn't be so many priests diddling little boys. Syphilis ran wild through people from the time that Columbus brought it back from the Caribbean natives until the advent of penicillin in the 1940s. Bastard born children are not a recent sudden thing and the only difference between now and in the past is that gay people are not as busy hiding it. Honestly making sex a dirty sinful thing, if anything, makes it more exciting and people just do it more if anything. There is a reason for the saying "Harder than a preacher's pecker!"

    The ignorance of the past didn't benefit anyone and only made one of life's true pleasures into something dirty.
     
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  22. lonewolf

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    I don't know about safe sex and safe births but everything will be harder post SHTF, and infant survival will depend on the availability of food and the success or failure of harvests.
     
  23. TexDanm

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    I wonder how many people now days even remember the old systems that people used. I know the Catholics used to do the "Rhythm System" but then they also mostly had big families LOL. Even condoms seemed to only be somewhat successful. Before "the pill" accidents just had a way of happening. I knew lots of people that had an "extra" kiddo or even two that came along late in life separate from the other kids. Some women would breastfeed a kid until they were 6 or 7 years old because it lowered their fertility and reduced the chances of getting pregnant again.
     
  24. TexDanm

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    When you are done gathering your data would you please share it and your conclusions based on this study with us?
     
  25. lonewolf

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    don't bother, its too basic and to general for any info to be of any use.
    I usually ignore such posts.
     
  26. Snyper

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    Zip Lock bags and Duct Tape.
     
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  27. Old Geezer

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    I once commented to a carpool bud of mine that prophylactics in this day and age should be made of industrial strength latex. To which he replied -- and this is fabulous -- "And the ring should be a flee collar."
     
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  28. lonewolf

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    there was a female on the Doomsday Preppers tv show that was storing condoms but not food, I guess she wont be around for long post SHTF.
    your main occupation post SHTF wont be sex it will be how to put food on the table each and every day and that will occupy your every waking hour.
     
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  29. Morgan101

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    I'm sure it will go on, and we will procreate as a species. No matter how bad things have been in the past we have managed to populate the planet. Even the Clovis people survived. Condoms would certainly be a good barter item.

    I don't think about it much. I will offer an old joke from the vaudeville days. Two guys standing on the stage. First guy says " Hey, have you been getting any on the side? " Second guy says " It's been so long since I got any, I didn't even know they moved it." I'm the second guy.
     
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  30. lonewolf

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    post SHTF it will take a lot of procreation to replace all the folks that didn't make it, it could be 2 or 3 centuries to get back to the level of population we have now. probably longer without the benefits of modern health care and maybe never.
     
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  31. TMT Tactical

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    The population will be minimal after the big die off. Then it will take centuries, maybe many centuries but once again, we will over burden the planet with too many mouths to feed. At first, (just like our past agricultural period) we will need the higher birth rates due to the non-mechanical life styles we will have to live. Then as we shift back into an industrial period the higher birth rate will still be required. Once we are back in full production the birth rate should drop, but it won't. People will not have learned and will continue to breed children that are not needed to compensate for the death rate. China gave up on the "ONE" child law and went to the "TWO" child law and that is being violated.. People do not learn.
     
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  32. lonewolf

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    history repeats itself and humans never learn from it.
     
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  33. Old Geezer

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    Sex, cigarettes, and 'shine -- the stuff of fortune.

    When I was younger, I would have added a telepathic dog with the added ability to sniff-out women.

    Movie "A Boy and His Dog"

    review:
     
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