Some Survival Knives

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  1. Pragmatist

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    https://www.fieldandstream.com/story/outdoor-gear/the-best-survival-knives-ever-made/


    Good afternoon all,

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    I didn't title the thread with the article's "best". The F&S author is just too provincial. All survival situations do not occur in forests. Preppers have various topographic and regional areas to address.

    Drop points are surely ideal for some matters. For other matters, they are not.

    Sometimes leather sheaths are inferior to other material. Again, it depends.

    The handles do not appear as best for slimey hands.

    A letter writer wrote of removing his knife's upper cross guard. The person never had arthritic hands or hand injuries. The hilt can be an important feature for some.

    Does any Forum Member have a favorite because of topo / geographic reasons ?
     
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  2. poltiregist

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    I have two curved blade fixed knives " kukri " that are my favorites for chopping brush . One the " Bo Griz " edition could very possibly cut off a arm with one swipe . Both of these knives are heavy duty . I bought several acers of grown up land cheap and took my kukri knife and cleared the underbrush to turn it into something that looks more like a park . About three days ago a power line crew was installing a power line for another dwelling on our survival retreat . One of the workers was telling me how the power line crew liked working in that area as it was so nice a place . One of our fears is the government realizing how nice this place is and taking it from us and turning it into a public park . I have never tried skinning a critter with a " kukri " but am sure it could be done . If I could have only one knife in a survival situation it definitely would be a heavy duty " kukri .
     
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  3. Morgan101

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    Well at least I have two of the six on the list. I would put the Ontario Air Force Survival knife on the list ahead of the Mora, but to each his own. My go-to would be the Ka-Bar, which you can get for under $80.00.

    Call me crazy but price matters. I never heard of the first one on the list, and for $625.00 I never will. I wouldn't care if it was the greatest thing since toilet paper on a roll. I would never spend on a knife what I could use to get a very good firearm.
     
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  4. Old Geezer

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    A month or two ago, I bought a Shrade Old Timer Woodsman fixed-blade knife. I really like it. It keeps a sharp edge, but I'm not able to put a razor edge on it. It will slice through a piece of paper, but not as smoothly as a razor. If not wanting to carry a gun, I could carry this. Around here, while shopping, it's common to see men with a hunting knife strapped to their side. But me, I carry a lock-blade flick-open pocket knife (one finger flick) wherever I go / perpetually. Usually, I'll have one of these in my pocket even when at home. I use it instead of getting up and going for a pair of scissors -- yes, I am that lazy. I only buy Kershaw brand pocket knives (3.5 inch blade is the handiest); this because of their quality, many of their styles/items are made in America, and they hold a very sharp edge.

    Here, about everybody has some sort of knife on them. Most men carry a pocket knife. Most women have a knife in their purse. Most folk, even if they don't smoke, have a cigarette lighter or pack of matches on them. It is also super common to see people with a utility tool / Leatherman in a leather carry pouch attached to their belt (I keep one in my car). At the very least, one out of three home driveways has a pickup truck parked there. Pickup trucks here have lockable tool boxes in the bed and it's also common to see steel pipe ladder racks on them. I've got like over 100 lbs of tools in my truck and that's not in any way uncommon around here. Trucks around here have lots of dents and rust. The women drive such trucks. Note also that the women around here will knock you unconscious if you mess with them. Welcome to Heartland America.

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    For Christmas, one of my sons get me a pocket/folding knife that actually uses a surgical scalpel as its blade -- a large scalpel blade two and a half inches / 6.35 cm. Along with this came 10 spare blades. The grip is made of titanium, thus very light. Due to it's being essentially a razor (you could shave with it), the blade is too thin and bends easily. Thus, one can't do much work with it. If you wanted to cut a page out of a magazine, this would be dynamite. It cuts paper and leaves zero ragged edge = hot knife through butter. If one were to slice somebody with it, the wound would go to the bone ... little if any resistance. It's mainly a precision cutting tool for small jobs.

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  5. Brownbear

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    The good old Leatherman Wave (or similar) is probably the best all round tool for prepping. It is fine to have a hunting knife if you are in a forest, but in a mixed environment a more adaptable tool is likely to be needed. Good quality multitools, generally speaking, provide a portable toolkit along with a reasonable cutting blade.
     
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  6. lonewolf

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    I dont like multitools, I think they are a gimmick, saw a stand of them in Mole Avon last week but they looked flimsy and easily damaged, give me a good knife every time.
    I've always said " the right tool for the right job".
     
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    for whats on some of these multitools several standard tools would not weight that much or take up much room.
    the ones that I saw at Mole Avon only had a pair of tiny scissors, small pliers and a smaller blade as well as the main blade, I think it had a small corkscrew too, all the tools were on the small to tiny side, a few standard tools would fit in a pocket and be more useful.
    some people like gadgets but I'm not a fan.
     
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    I like my multi tool and keep one on my at all times...unless ...of course I am in a suit and tie. Then I carry a thin Swiss army fold up knife.

    A multi tool is a very very handy tool to have.....it is "not" a good heavy duty tool...but it is handy ...and handy is the main thing it has going for it.

    For a knife...I do not prefer to use the knife in my Multi tool...but keep a folder with a D2 Steel blade in it....and clip it to my Levi's pants pocket.

    I do not particularly like a stainless steel blade in a knife as they can be difficult to sharpen and keep an edge...

    I prefer a good grade of carbon steel.


    However..I am also aware that one is going to pay good monies for a blade....fixed or folfer.....with good quality steel.....good monies..


    Oh...and one other important thing...I have some more expensive knives in my collection and I do not bring them to work.....as there are people out here who do not respect someone else's tools and will severely break and or abuse when they borrow them.

    I am often want to state that next to a screwdriver...a knife is one of the most misused and abused tools in the tool box..


    Nonetheless...on my hip ...almost all the time is a Mag Lite ...spare batteries in my pocket....a Multi Tool...and a set of feeler gages in a spare Mag Lite pouch.

    I don't like to leave home ...as the saying goes ....without them. I do not feel properly dressed...in particular without a knife on me at all times...
    Was raised with some kind of pocket knife on me...Jackknife...

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  9. lonewolf

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    my EDC is a folder, I take it everywhere.
    as for lending tools.......DONT, I have learned by experience not to after some tools I lent were broken and not replaced, so made a policy of no longer lending anything.
     
  10. Old Geezer

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    Knock-off copies of the Leatherman tool seem to all be rather worthless.

    The tool is no substitute for a toolbox. It's only purpose = "At this moment, this thing is all I have."

    Me, I surround myself with toolboxes. Got one sitting next to me right now. Got tools in car and truck. Have a massive roll-about out behind our house in the tool-shed/workshop/storage building. Seems I'm perpetually having to repair things.

    If you haven't bought new in many moons, then you better have a bunch of tools. I stretch-out the lifetime of everything. Also, you gotta figure that new items are poorly built and often cannot be fixed. Older items are better built and when they do have a problem, they are constructed such that they can be readily repaired.

    This used truck I just bought has a profoundly common engine. It was built by GMC and parts are readily available. Previous owners had already rebuilt the transmission and had replaced a core component of the frame that is a known rust point. There are literally millions of GMC trucks out there. Here in this one agricultural county where we live, you can't drive two miles down any road without seeing them parked, or having another one drive past you. There may (?) be more Ford trucks out there, but I'm not at all keen on Ford products. The only Ford that lasted me for years was a Ford Explorer. When I traded that thing in, it was all to pieces, basically only good for scrap metal.

    Survival items must be robust and repairable. Even the lowly knife must be of quality -- it's spine has to be thick, it must be made of a steel that can be readily sharpened, and the grip must fit your hand and be rugged/unbreakable. Keep your knives oiled and sharpened. I inspect my guns to ensure they are in working condition and that the bore of each is clean. Never over-oil your firearms, nor any other tools. Too much oil attracts dirt and grime like some sort of supernatural magnet.
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  11. lonewolf

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    whatever you are buying be it knives or tools get multiples of everything, if anything gets lost or broken post SHTF you wont be able to get another one, one of anything is no good so get stocking up now.
     
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  12. Max rigger

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    I've picked up a few knives over the years, a few Mora fixed blades, Opinel, and a Fällkniven F1 Pilot Knife which is the most expensive but in my opinion are overrated and well overpriced. I've got an original Leatherman PST which I've used a lot, excellent build quality. All knives are 'survival' knives
     
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    While I remember, I picked up four of these little folding knives back around October, blade is under 3", its non locking so a legal carry in UK and Spain. Well made, sharp and cost my about €12 off Timu delivered. I put one in the drivers and front passenger door pockets of our two cars.

    One reason I picked these is if you look at the bottom of the butt you'll see a triangular glass punch which will shatter car windows if your in a prang and need to exit the vehicle quickly and the doors jammed
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  14. Old Geezer

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    A non-lockable blade pocket knife can fold while one is using it an cut the tops of one's fingers.

    Some older folk and pipe-smokers in America carry pocket knives whose blades will not lock, but most carry lock-blades for the obvious safety reasons.

    Serrated edge blades I think got their start with emergency crews. It is profoundly difficult to cut car safety belts with a regular edge. You gotta saw it in two, as it were. The same is true of man-made material ropes. Ropes used in boating, often polyester, are difficult to cut unless you have a serrated edge blade.

    When extracting people from vehicles, you either have to use penny-cutter scissors or a serrated edge blade. I keep the penny cutters in all of my vehicles and have them in my first aid kits. Most EMT and Paramedics I know / have worked-with simply have a belt holster for their medical/"penny-cutter" scissors -- I mean, I imagine they carry these puppies all the time. Holy crap, I bet some of them carry these scissors at home ... attach them to their pajamas ... to them, these scissors are some sort of religious icon/talisman. It's like physicians and their dang stethoscopes. Maybe some physicians sleep with their stethoscope around their neck! :confused::rolleyes:o_O


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  15. Max rigger

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    I own lock knives but they are illegal to carry in the UK and Spain.
     
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  16. lonewolf

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    which is crazy, any folding knife that dosent lock is dangerous and could do serious damage to the user , which shows just how little those making the laws know.
     
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  17. Max rigger

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    On the street blade can only be 3" or less, folding or fixed blade, no lock knives, technically even a multitool is locking...crazy when you think most knife crime is carried out with cheap kitchen knives.
     
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    again, it shows those making the laws dont know what they are talking about, its a knee jerk reaction.
     
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  19. Old Geezer

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    There are many politicians who absolutely LOVE violent crime and the masses of weak people who fear crime. This situation allows government to castrate the populous of their weaponry and make them more dependent on Big Brother to "protect" them. Big Brother doles-out protection at a titrated rate to keep the populace from being incapacitated from too much crime, yet still kept in a state of fear and dependency.

    Anytime a cancerous centralized government seeks to disarm everyone in an attempt to disarm felons, it tells you that there exists among them a profound disrespect for the populace. Politicians are not so pathetically naive as to believe that these laws actually work -- many politicians get rich off the black market of guns and drugs -- they are creating these laws to keep the boot of federal law-enforcement on the necks of the masses.

    In the rational world, it is sick to disable intelligent and responsible citizens due to the violence committed by inferior and irresponsible "humans".

    The primary reason Switzerland is a peaceful nation is due to the excellent genetics of the people and their desire to exist in an ordered society, i.e. live and let live. Everyone attends to those functions and jobs to which they are best suited. These skills complement and meld, i.e. they "dove-tail" creating a self-sufficient people. This was once profoundly true in such nations as Sweden until they opened their doors and let in the wolves. Sweden went from being one of Europe's most peaceful nations to being one exhibiting conspicuous violence.

    I could go down the roads and paths of rural England and distribute guns and knives to every household. The result would be precious little change in behavior, little change in crime. Where I live, there are likely more firearms than people, yet our violent crime rate is profoundly low. Civilized people are civilized. Uncivilized people are always at each others throats. This is an in-your-face reality, yet people refuse to acknowledge the truth of the matter.

    Leftist dogma is every bit as irrational as fundamentalist religious dogma. Maybe dogma's are some people's comfy blankets. Yet, dogmas need to be replaced with rational ideation. How can society's behavioral diseases be repaired in an environment wherein people cling to irrational thought patterns!

    At age 14, I ceased believing in the dogmas spewed by the fundamentalist Protestant church I was forced to attend. I dealt with life's unpleasant realities. Just because I wanted to believe this or that, didn't mean that I could pretend such into "reality". I grew up. Society needs to grow up.

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    "At age 14, I ceased believing in the dogmas spewed by the fundamentalist Protestant church I was forced to attend. I dealt with life's unpleasant realities. "

    Sadly millions of Muslims follow without question the dogmas of their faith and sadly millions of people are lining up to join the religion; as a faith they are unified, follow commands and are a real threat to freedom both in Europe and the USA. Whilst some of us in the free world 'grow up' the Muslims grow stronger and this is not because they are brighter its because 'we' have been told that we can be anything we want in life, dye our hair pink or blue, change our gender while 'they' just follow dogmas and orders.

    Our future is not bright ladies and gentlemen IMHO.
     
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  21. lonewolf

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    and as more of them pour across Europe and cross the channel into Britain so the problem will increase.
     
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    The muslims defeated the Crusaders in 1291, they won back then and I've little doubt they will take over Europe within 30 years if their slow and insidious invasion is not halted
     
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  23. lonewolf

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    exactly.
     
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  24. Brownbear

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    Sadly I suspect you are right.
     
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  25. Old Geezer

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    Me, I'm more optimistic about Europe.

    It is my belief that the European citizenry are recognizing the huge mistake of allowing their socialist governments to impose open-door policies on them, impose egregious environmental regulations on them, impose laws that deny them the means of defending themselves from violent crime, over-tax them, ... on and on. I hope the people fight back. We here in America are rising up against the globalist Left's Amerika malignancy. If we can, then the Europeans can. Hopefully, Europeans will throw-off the Borg's assimilation agenda.

    Slavery is hell. Liberty is breathing fresh air. Freedom is worth fighting-for. Cut the chains that bind you!

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    I've been thinking for some time that it has been a mistake for Britain to let in all these people with different attitudes and different cultures and religions to our own who for the most part do not integrate with the people who were born here and have no respect for our laws and customs.
    of course even thinking like that is probably a "hate crime" these days.
     
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    If thinking like that is a hate crime, then the vast majority of indigenous white people are guilty. I know virtually nobody who does not feel it has all gone too far.
     
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  28. Old Geezer

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    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YNfFUQVoRq4

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MPclS17O8nk



    If attacked from behind, stab backwards. Target the groin area. The genitals and femoral veins and arteries are bleeders and the intensity of the pain can be disabling. If your attacker makes the mistake of turning his back to you, stab him in his anal area. The veins and nerves in this area are rich as a target. Your enemy's bleeding and mind-numbing pain are your goals to achieve.

    Holding your knife in the rearward aspect of your hand -- blade toward your little-finger backwards as opposed to your forefinger forwards -- allows you to stab behind you OR your spinning motion allows your body to slice the attackers eyes and face. Blind your attacker / bleed your attacker. Knife fighting videos you'll find online do NOT include stabbing backwards. This is a shame. Your triceps muscles are strong -- think doing pushups. These are the muscles on the back of your upper arms. I'm old, but can still do pushups. I have back and pelvis issues (arthritis big-time, worn-out this body), so I perpetually push myself out of chairs and use a cane to steady myself. I'm over 200 lb.s and not fat. Got a bit of a paunch, sure; I'm old. YET, I'm solid, making my triceps very strong. I'll trust my triceps over my biceps (front of upper arm).

    If your enemy is wearing bullet-proof armor, this usually protects their upper body, NOT their groin nor anal areas.

    Keep your chin down to protect your neck. Your having long hair allows your enemy to grab your hair, pull your head back, then slice your throat.



    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EI7kEIb_lmY

    I'm still looking for video showing body-spin then instant stab rearward into your aggressor's groin/genital region. Just can't find a video demonstrating this. Shucks! Sorry! If you spin to stab rearwards, then you had better be faster that fast, because this can get you killed. Your opponent can cut your anterior neck/throat. You must use your weaker/secondary arm to defend your anterior neck/throat and face as you spin. Speed is everything! If you are weak or slow, you'd better have a gun = run, turn and kill. Sometimes the BEST defense is offense -- run, find cover, turn, shoot your pursuer. Don't do what you see on television and in the movies. To live, evolve from being a target to becoming the aggressor. Annihilate your enemy. Show zero mercy. Kill kill kill !!!! It's a matter of life or death.

    Knife fighting is always a last resort. This is a horrible topic. I have a handgun next to my right hand as I write this. My dad's dad put a bullet through the scrotum of a knife-weilding attacker. Pap's quick action stopped the aggression and rapidly so.

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  29. Max rigger

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    Videos are fun to watch but its best if you actually train.

    Krav Maga would be my advice, developed by the IDF, its a mix of styles...its dirty fighting and very effective but...like any fighting form unless you are willing to inflict damage on an attacker don't bother training.
     
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  30. lonewolf

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    hand to hand combat on the streets of the UK? really? apart from maybe London very unlikely I would think, and even that would be a machete rather than a knife, even less likely where I live and some others live in a rural area.
    cant speak for the US of course. any attacker there is more likely to be shot before he can get close. dont bring a knife to a gun fight.
    a survival knife isnt necessarily a combat knife, some military ones are of course, like a KA Bar, I would call a Mora knife a survival or bushcraft knife but not a combat knife, but thats just my opinion of course.
     
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  31. Old Geezer

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    There's been an increase in knife attacks. Maybe it would be good if people started seeking training on defensive techniques. This is especially true for women. As more and more migrants enter countries, these sorts of attacks will continue to increase.
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    women are seen as second class citizens by some migrants, even lower than dogs in some cases, hence the recent acid attack by an Afghan asylum seeker.
     
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    Men who beat-up and/or rape women should all be killed.

    It smothers me when I read of other countries denying their women the means of self-defense. Pepper spray, even "bear spray" doesn't work against out-of-control felons nor psych-cases (especially not psych-cases). Tasers do not work and neither do stun guns. What it takes to drop a monster human can also be lethal -- think firearm.

    Statistics reveal that 9 out of 10 people shot with a handgun live to tell about it. Of those who live through being shot with a handgun 8 out of 10 of these survivors suffer no lifelong disabling conditions.

    Hunting firearms, rifles and shotguns, are FAR more lethal than handguns.

    I want women to be trained and armed with firearms.
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      I’ve been teaching Louise to use a. 16g Hatsan that I picked up cheap, if you never hear from me again you’ll know I’ve pushed her too far.;)
       
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  35. lonewolf

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    I agree with the first remark but not the last one.
    if you have a problem with a woman you walk away, not beat them up, I know I did.
    most women over here should not be in charge of a firearm, they are too emotional, most wouldnt know how to use one properly anyway.
     
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  36. Max rigger

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    Interesting view on the Swedish Government and prepping

     
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  37. lonewolf

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    Sweden has already been threatened by Putin.
     
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  38. Ystranc

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    I’ve always been unimpressed with the steel used in the main blade of the Leatherman tools, plus they’re not UK legal carry.
     
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  39. Brownbear

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    I doubt carrying laws will have any currency after TSHTF.

    I mentioned the Charge as it has a 154cm blade which is a higher quality steel that their standard on Waves etc
     
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    There will be a different need for current EDC knife carry vs. post SHTF carry needs. My cheap Walmart $5.00 folder works fine for my current EDC needs. I would have to shift to a different knife after it hit the fan. After it hits the fan, I would not want a folder but fixed blade knives.
     
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  41. Old Geezer

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    One out of every five women in the U.S. owns a gun.

    Crime is spiraling out of control in the US. Many (if not most) attempted robberies are NOT reported to police. Many muggings are never reported to the police. People know that there's not much the police can do to catch these felons and certainly nothing the police can do to be there and protect an individual citizen. Most people who use a gun to protect their home do not report the incident to police. Me, I didn't. Should the @$$hole return, I'd just shoot the sh## out of him.

    If citizens are killed or felons kill each other, then that does get reported. Major property crimes are reported for insurance reasons. The police can write-up reports. There are just too many felons out there for the police to control. For any individual crime, the police know that there could be dozens of suspects. We're talking about an ocean of felons walking the streets.

    Stats are from 2017. Matters are much the same. Some cities have had reductions in murders and armed robberies. Maybe felons are running out of other felons to kill.

    https://journalistsresource.org/economics/felony-triple-prison-conviction-black/

    "One-third of African American men have been convicted of a felony, according to data recently published in Demography. For white men, the figure is less than half that."

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    "Why gun ownership is spiking among this demographic"

    https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/gun-ownership-spiking-among-demographic

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    In 2016, 15% of women reported owning a gun, according to Gallup. That figure swelled to 22% last year, the highest level since Gallup started tracking American firearm ownership annually in 2007. Men are still more likely to own a firearm than women, but their rates of gun ownership have remained stagnant — around 40% — over the last decade and a half.

    McCoy had never fired a semiautomatic rifle before that drizzly morning at an all-female firearm training just outside Tacoma, Washington. But like many women, she has decided to get more comfortable using a gun for personal protection.

    Milhans, who serves on the board of the Washington State Rifle and Pistol Association, donates about 100 hours each year specifically training other women to use firearms.

    Lisa Olson took coming face-to-face with a suspected car prowler as her sign to enroll in the firearms training course.

    One night she parked her car in her driveway in a quiet suburb outside Tacoma. Her son ran into the house, but Olson remained in the car finishing a phone call when suddenly another car pulled up next to her and a man opened the passenger door.


    "We're just looking at each other," she recalled. "He had an excuse that he thought it was his girlfriend's car and her house and I said, ‘Well she doesn’t live here.' And then he got into the car and drove off."

    Later, she would learn from neighbors with security cameras that two men had been breaking into cars.

    "What can I do [against] two men?" Olson said. "Being a woman and not as strong, we need something a little stronger to help protect us."


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    OldGzer: Train, practice, train, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, ........


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  42. Max rigger

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    I've an original LM PST and a Wave, the blade on the 20 year old PST is better in my experience.
     
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  43. lonewolf

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    same here.
     
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  44. Max rigger

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    For me the best value for money folder is Opinel, they are locking knives so illegal in the UK but its simple enough to slip off the locking ring and that makes it legal carry

    More expensive in the USA but still great value
    https://www.opinel-usa.com
     
  45. TMT Tactical

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    As a knife collector I would want the best quality knives I could afford. As a casual user, then it is quality vs. price. It has been my experience, the big difference in the high priced knives is the quality of the steel (blade) and the decorations / appearance. Even a cheap knife can be sharpened to a razor edge (I do it all the time) but it will not hold that edge as long as a high quality knife. My $5.00 Walmart pocket knife will slice you to the bone, if you get careless BUT it will also get dull very quickly. Cheap steel.

    Bottom line for me. The right tool (knife - Axe) for the right price. Good steel, solid construction and no fancy art work. A Harbor Freight manchettes will do a good job of clearing brush and making kindling. Will it hold an edge forever, no, but during a SHTF event, I expect I will have a lot of time at night to keep it sharp.
     
  46. Max rigger

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    With most 'kit' I buy I look for value for money and 'fit for purpose' if an item fills both then I'll buy it.

    Some things I won't cut corners on is tentage, sleeping bags, primary stove and clothing, cut corners with any of those can send you down a dangerous path in a survival situation.
     
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  47. lonewolf

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    cheapest isnt always the best, but sometimes we can get a bargain.
     
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  48. Old Geezer

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    You get what you pay for.

    Never cut corners with anything related to safety.

    Homey doesn't gamble. Dear old Dad drove that into my brain. Well before I was a teenager and playing poker with Dad, he constantly said, "I will always pay to see your cards." Dad was anger/revenge central (his well-worn blackjack was proof), but what he really wanted to teach was for me to never to gamble in life. Craps, blackjack, draw poker, billiards (he versed me well in these) are one area where you can get your thumbs snapped backwards and your face rearranged; however, life itself is the biggy.

    Doctors can treat many things; but for life's biggies, it's the funeral director who will attempt to get what's left of you ready for an open casket service.
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  49. Max rigger

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    An example of cheap but 'fit for purpose'

    In a moment of madness (being online and sipping Jonny D) I bought a pair of Fjallraven trousers, cost me around £130/$160 and they are great, fit well, good design, very well made but...in reality they are no better than a pair of M65 trousers you can pick up for £30/$40
     
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  50. lonewolf

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    I wear Cargo trousers £21.99 a pair. ideal for my purposes.
     
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