"survival Vehicles"

https://www.hotcars.com/apocalypse-...-the-toughest-survival-vehicles-in-the-world/


Good morning all,

This article was surely written to reflect the mood of the times and not to sell vehicles.

I'm not sure if it's a serious article or a Reader's Digest type "Laughter is the best medicine" type.

Nowadays 6" of anti-everything "glass" won't protect against spent uranium rounds.

No narrative mentioned the pictured bicycles but they do, at least, warrant favorable mention as a survival vehicle.

 

Curiously nobody ever mention regarding availability of spare parts and ease of maintenance.
Anyway I still love either Toyota FJ Cruiser or D-Cab Hilux

All the more reason to stay on the move with enough firepower to return fire.

 

Definitely a cool article, and fun vehicles to dream about. For the price of those, though, I could build a sweet cabin out in the woods with enough supplies to last me years. I wouldn't have to go anywhere.

 

OK, so the military versions of these are bullet-proof. Are the civvy versions armor-plated along with having bullet-proof glass? I bet not.

I'd let someone else buy it and fill it with supplies, then I would shoot them and take it. I would also have to steal a filled tanker truck to drive behind the survival vehicle just to provide enough fuel for the beast. One would also have to steal support vehicles to provide transportation for an armed support team; this, to attempt to keep others from stealing that which I had just stolen.

Seems like a lot of work.

A friend of mine and I were in high school. We were pitching a bit of a drunk. He says that he knew where these younger guys were camping. Yeeee hawwwwww!!! We go find'em in the woods, land on their tent, and beat them up a little bit. We dig them out their tent, then share some of our liquor with them. (My friend was already a drug dealer back then; he went on to become a raging alcoholic; we'd occasionally party throughout the decades, but I left town without saying goodbye; he had once been fascinating, but his mind had deteriorated; guess he's dead now.)

"Leaveth thyself not exposethed." I think it's in Scripture somewhere.

I don't trust tents, nor campers, nor trailer homes (and many houses). You can shoot right through them.

And when I get a table at a restaurant, I get one that allows me to see the front door and the kitchen door. Acquired that tidbit habit from an uncle who had some folk with whom he was out of favor. Hopefully, no one dislikes me that much, but some habits are good habits. A secure perimeter is a good thing.
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For once I agree with OldGeezer, something that stands out like these vehicles in the article would put a great big target on your back....it's not as if you could hide most of them.
Bicycles are good, small motor cycles can be very useful for getting through standing traffic, a four wheel drive will get you out into the sticks. These trucks in the article are probably a bit specialist for my needs...just think how many other things you could spend that money on.
Compound the fuel costs with the fact that before the shit hits the fan most of these vehicles would be virtually uninsurable, you'd have to secure store them and not get any benefit from them.

 

Here's a survival vehicle

 

I guess one must have adequate tires for the purpose.

 

Maybe in my dreams, or if I hit the lottery. Truthfully I would opt for something far more practical and less ostentatious. An unassuming conversion van, customized to be sure, would do quite nicely.

 

If you aiming for modification I highly recommend using Toyota D-Cab Hilux as base and turning it into 6x6

 

The only one that makes any sense to me at all is #3,the EarthRoamer LT. All the rest make you a target, either out of fear or to take what you have. You can't live in those things forever and any simpleton any more can make a shape charge IED. Not to mention most of those get gallons per mile for fuel use. LOL!

I would like to question the group on why some think there will be no fuel in a TEOTWAWKI event. I don't understand that mindset, unless people think alcohol and /or methanol can't or won't be used for fuel. I intend to run a still for all the fruit, grains and veggies that have spoiled beyond human consumption. I have apples, crab apples, persimmons and berries in a lot of areas around me. Not even mentioning making methane from animal waste to use for heating and running some modified propane engines.



My idea of a Bug Out Vehicle. Gets just over 30 miles to the gallon. Next up is a Nissan Frontier pickup truck. If I have to go anywhere.

Dale

 

Remember the 60's TV show "The Rat Patrol"?

Y'know, the tactic of shoot-n-scoot has a lot going on for it.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tv+show+rat+patrol+vehicles&atb=v140-1&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

 

UAZ-469

http://www.military-today.com/trucks/uaz_469.htm

Y'know, I've heard that you could pour just about any sort of fuel into these puppies and they'd just run ... to include vodka. The first ones out had a hand crank, just in case the battery went dead (yes, the hand-cranks could kick-back like a T-Model Ford; watch your thumb!).



https://duckduckgo.com/?q=UAZ-469&atb=v140-1&iax=images&ia=images
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There have been some changes to tactics and the equipment is modern, but that kind of warfare still exist. In some countries,....every day.

I trained for the same with the old style Willie Jeeps but the modern side by side OHV's are awesome for it. Mine is quiet enough that I can get close to whitetail deer and even black bear before they realize I'm there. With the 2 - 5 gallon fuel cans on board I can travel over 600 miles. I can make it to my daughter in Jacksonville, FL from WV and refuel from what I have stored there and get her home. Works for me. Especially when it can do 85 mph when I step on the gas.



Dale

 

So true. Reality seems to be too much to ask from most people these days.

Dale

 

Good afternoon Dale,

Real nice pictures.

Is that a stock photo of the big Bobcat type car or do we know the driver ?!

Won't say "no fuel". I've said gasoline and diesel, both tagged and untagged, subject to restrictions, prohibitions to private citizens, situation dictating as per area commander/incident commander.

Related; Public roads could be deemed closed to private citizen use. All roads in area of critical infrastructure can be deemed restricted / prohibited use.

Drones will patrol with ability to dismantle electrical systems.

Reminder to self: extra Freon for a/c, set AN/GRC 5 - "Angry Five" (arty radio) to AM for rock and roll music., 2 ice chests in back,

 

The guy in the Can Am Commander is me. That Can Am has been to Colorado and back to WV with me. I can place a shooting strap across either door and it makes an excellent shooting platform. In a non-prepper mode, it's loads of fun and is a real work horse around the house, garden and woods. It's small enough to get around and quiet enough to not alarm people at any distance away from the vehicle. I'm finally getting hard doors and an expedition roof for it. I am getting a spotting scope mount for it and a swivel weapons mount.



Just in case.

Dale

 

Good morning Dale,

You're looking as healthy as they make 'em after the Army !

"just in case" for chiggers ?!

 

Killdozer!

Was talking to a son today. He mentions the story about a fellow building a "killdozer" and leveling a bunch of businesses in his small town in C0lorado. What?! I didn't know what he was talking about so I looked up the story. The story happened around 15 years ago. Marvin Heemeyer built himself an armored crushing machine from hell. The city council (good ol' boy cabal) created laws to destroy his business, so he decided to physically destroy theirs. Marv had offended a community elitist by purchasing property the elitist wanted -- the squabble went thermonuclear.

For preppers, his story is instructive in how he built his armor-plating. Marv was a gifted welder

https://allthatsinteresting.com/marvin-heemeyer-killdozer



Netflix has a documentary call "Tread" about the Marv and his machine.
https://decider.com/2020/08/03/tread-on-netflix-documentary-review/

There are several Youtube vids about the beastly behemoth:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=marvin+killdozer&atb=v140-1&iar=videos&iax=videos&ia=videos

 

https://scribol.com/anthropology-an...do-killdozer-marvin-heemeyer/40/?as=799&asv=1

The Netflix movie, Tred, gives some details, but not enough. I can't find any detailed info on the materials Marv used.

I do know these things:
> He used sheets of 1/2" steel
> He used two layers of these sheets and poured concrete between the two layers
> He only had very minor visual ports. The clear material was 3" of bullet resistant polymer. He created a air-blast mechanism to blow debris off the tiny windows.
> He used multiple cameras and video screens to view his surroundings.
> Rifle ports were fashioned so that he could return fire. He used suppressive fire, but he didn't shoot directly at anyone or they would have been dead.
> He had a .50 BMG rifle. I didn't recognize it's manufacturer from the photos. Maybe Marv built it himself. A friend of mine used build his own rifles (yes, he did do the BATF paperwork). He case-hardened at least one receiver himself (a reproduction of a Remington rolling block). Other receivers he sent off for heat treatment.
> What killed the killdozer was that its cooling system ran empty and the engine thus seized-up and died. Didn't help that his right tread sank into a business' basement.
> Marv had "plenty of fuel". Auxiliary tanks? Gotta know that this machine DRANK diesel. Many folk who run heavy equipment build their own storage tanks. Many preppers install fuel tanks on their property. Gotta use new tanks. Old gas station tanks often begin to leak -- wastes the fuel you buy and hurts the environment. Old tanks must be drained empty.

Diesel fuel storage
https://www.powermag.com/understanding-diesel-fuel-storage-requirements/

WARNING, get a professional hardness scale rating on any receiver of which you are uncertain. I've seen some Mauser 1895 receivers (never an M98 receiver, they are the best of course) not be sufficiently hard enough to use, therefore they had to be re-heat-treated before building a rifle (still you have to keep the pressures down for an M95 action). Buy several receivers at one time so that these processes can be done en masse.
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Y'all got your survival vehicles prepped?

This old long-bed, 4x4, truck I just bought has had its tool-bed filled by me. Should have put weight in the bed before now, but it's done well on this year's snow and ice besotted roads ... so far. In 4x4 High, it's done fine in snow, ice, and general slick roads. I've not had to use 4x4 Low. This isn't the MidWest. I smile when people talk about "bad roads". They simply do NOT know BAD roads / killer roads. My generations and I have survived winter mountain roads -- no guard-rails. You slide off, you die. Once, my pap told my dad when he was a boy to, "Jump out!!!!!!!!" when they were about to slide off a mountain road and down a cliff/steep embankment during winter. He wouldn't. They didn't. This was in the 1930s up in the mountains of Appalachia.

Don't do foolish sh## unless it's absolutely necessary.

My kin have done such during wartime, but oh holy sh##, that was wartime. Post-SHTF, do NOT gamble!!!!! You will lose. My dad, his brothers, plus their mates were "The House". Out there in this world, Mother Nature is the The House. Please, in the name of God, don't gamble. Mother Nature will snap your spine like a twig. Seen that. Constantly avoided that. Seems to no avail; yet, could life had been worse?. I guess it could have been. Were I to write an autobiography, no one would believe it.

Please don't gamble!!!

Get prepared for that which "cannot happen". What can't happen constantly does happen. Sure as hell, the impossible, the unimaginable damnations have happened to me and my family. They can happen to you, also. Oh lord, what am I to say?! We are entering dark, unimaginably dark times. "Bad things" are going to constantly be happening.
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The world is unstable as I have ever known it.

Most SHTF transport seems, to me, to add another level of complication to prepping. Availability of fuel and repair facilities etc are going to be severely depleted and there are so many places one cannot take a vehicle - and some of them are the best bug out locations.

 

And having to obtain and store fuel and oil for a car simply adds an unnecessary dimension to post SHTF living. I believe it would be better to use that time to find and process foodstuffs etc.

 

I guess one question would be, "How many years worth of wood should one store?" And, "Should one live in a forested area so that one could have constant and immediate access to firewood?

 

Due to winter storms and heavy ice formation on woodlands, our forests have lots of dead wood -- dangerous amounts. These greatly increase the risk of forest fires during dry seasons.

Those limbs and trees that have fallen on the ground go to rot rather rapidly. Standing dead wood will dry-out in the mountain winds. The latter, one can harvest with their chain saw.

 

Post it hitting the fan most vehicles will have no fuel so are worthless, better off with a mountain bike.

Might be worth looking at a small electric vehicle if you have solar power

These look a bit of fun, if I could find a used one for a couple of grand I'd buy one now for local shopping

 

That sums up their issues in a nutshell.

Post TSHTF it will not be realistically possible to charge an EV unless one is running a reasonably powerful generator which rather misses the point of an EV. A potential alternative is a self charging Hybrid though.