Surviving A Riot.

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  1. jeager

    jeager Master Survivalist
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    Civil unrest often leads to a riot.

    Having been in a couple full blown riots as a police officer I suggest staying away,
    as far away as you can.
    If one can't escape such unrest then stay indoors and stay out of sight.
    Arm yourself if need be but only if danger is imminent.
    If one must use a weapon in self defense be sure the attacker is permanently "neutralized".
    You want the only story told to be YOUR story.
    Just sayin'.
    The last thing anyone wants to be the star if a grand jury investigation.
    Trust me.
    I've been sued at jury FOUR TIMES and it was awful.
    I won but the emotional trauma was worse than being shot at in the long term.
    Happily for me the City insurance paid for my legal expenses.
    25 years ago it was over $50 grand!
    That would have bankrupted me for life had I needed to pay the bill.
    I had TWO legal teams. One to defend the City and one to defend me FROM the city
    lawyer.
    Believe me the City would have plead me guilty to escape any chance of paying the plaintiff.
    The city would not care one tiny bit if I went to jail on Federal charges of Civil Rights violations.
    Thank gawd I got disabled after 22.5 years service with by forth broken back.
    Riots do happen so avoid the area if at all possible.
     
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  2. Keith H.

    Keith H. Moderator Staff Member
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    Very interesting jeager & thanks for posting this. I was in security myself, but had a close friend who was in the police service. He was disabled in a police helicopter crash & was badly let down by the police service.
    Question: This question has been on my mind for a long time, & I fully realise that if you choose to answer, it will only be your personal opinion. The question is, if there was civil unrest to the point where the public were being unfairly treated by the government & this treatment was obviously wrong, how do you think the police & military would react? Would they be on the side of the people, or would they follow orders? Or, would they abstain from taking part altogether?
    Keith.
     
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  3. Old Geezer

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    In America during the L.A. Rodney King riots, the National Guard was brought in to protect the looters. Same was true after hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. In Democratic Socialist megalopolises of America, you are not considered a decent citizen unless you submit to rape by the rampaging hoards and the minority police (who were a big part of the looting in New Orleans).

    After the fiat currencies of this world collapse, strong men and women may be able to restore true civilized society by crushing and removing the uncivilized. This is why preparation is sooooooooooooo critical!!!

    Do not forget to be prepared in the way of fire prevention and fire suppression. Your fire department will NOT be there for you unless you have the silver or ammunition with which to pay them. If you are perceived as being rich with precious metals or ammo, the fire department and police will be there to strip you of these, plus your stored food. The latter will mainly happen in urban areas. In Heartland America where Christian values still have some meaning, one will be safer, yet not totally safe. The larger your army and the higher the degree to which you are ready and willing to kill, the more likely you are to keep your family alive.
     
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  4. Keith H.

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    Thank you, good post.
    Keith.
     
  5. jeager

    jeager Master Survivalist
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    That's a GREAT question.
    I fear the police and military would obey the gov't.
    It's what we are sworn to do and commanders would make sure orders were followed.
    I'm sooooooooooooo glad I'm out of that arena.
    After being disabled and 9 months in rehab I had an opportunity to attend college, earned
    two degrees and did 8 years at G.M.
    Much better money. :>)
     
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  6. Keith H.

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    Thanks mate.
    Keith.
     
  7. lonewolf

    lonewolf Legendary Survivalist Staff Member
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    police and government employees will only follow orders if they are still being paid, if the economy has gone down the toilet and currency has collapsed, they will go home and look after their families, any human being would.
     
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  8. OfficerOtto

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    Over half of the New Orleans police department just didn't show up for work in the immediate aftermath of Katrina. They went to their families and to their homes to protect what they had and survive.

    Geezer, I don't recall any rampaging hordes of minority police officers in the aftermath of Katrina. Do you have any sources for this? There were a handful of police officers who committed illegal acts such as a group of three officers who found a dead guy and burned his body in the car they found him in. My understanding was the dead guy tried to loot an occupied police substation and was shot by officers there. Lacking manpower, radios and functioning vehicles the officer didn't pursue the suspect and the suspect later succumbed to his wounds. If I can find the article when I am on a PC I will link it.

    Back to the topic at hand. In the event of some kind of major riot, as Jaeger said, avoiding the area is key. Also important would be to stay upwind of the event. Any sizeable riot is likely to eventually lead to the deployment of chemical munitions (namely CS, CN and OC). Granted most of these chemicals will dissipate fairly quickly, being downwind within a few blocks of the deployment won't be pleasent.

    Avoid anyone covering their face with a black mask. Generally speaking, it's safe to assume anyone with a black mask and/or air filter with goggles showing up for a riot is an anarchist. Their sole goals at these events (short term) are to force a confrontation with the police and destroy property. Law enforcement WILL seek them out and target them as the best candidates for arrest. Don't be near them; they also tend to draw fire from officers with less lethal munitions.

    Most states have a law that prohibits you from being armed at a protest, riot, etc. Know if your state is one of these and conduct your business accordingly.

    Being grey is very important. If a protestor sees you, you want their eyes to just roll over you. Ditto with law enforcement. Chances are they will both be too occupied to care, but the degenerate members of society are very much aware that the rule of law is breaking down and they can operate with relative impunity for at least a short while.

    Any other suggestions?
     
  9. jeager

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    Recall the race riots in the U.S. ?
    "One rioter in Harlem was filmed and exclaimed "It's Christmas in Harlem." as he ran off with a new
    looted t-v.
    Recall the L.A. riots where the ONLY businesses NOT looted were owned by people that took up
    positions on the roofs with rifles.
     
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    Ever since I remember, my home country Nepal has been politically unstable. First there was direct rule for the king and the people did notm like it. They demonstrated against the king for years. There there was multi party democracy and the wranglings of political parties. After that there was communist insurgencies. Riots have been integral part oy my country since 25 years. I have lived through and survived numerous riots.
     
  11. Clara1993

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    Living riots must be awful and very frightening :-( I thing What I can do if I'm walking in a Road and meet Riot the first thing I would do is to enter in any building closer to where I am close windows and doors and Wait for it to pass, the first thing I would avoid is to get pinnid in it really I use to see that in news Riots are very dengerous and people who are ready to engage in them They don't fear death and I don't differentiate them from terrorists because they kill inocent people on streets too.
     
  12. joegirl

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    The first thing to do in a riot is to move away as far as possible from the center-front where the thick and thin is happening. You should also find a hiding place if its possible. Sometimes you are right in the middle of it and cant get away. Always be aware of your surroundings and keep your eyes open at all times. Keep your head raised back and above the crowd to avoid being suffocated.
     
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    I have seen a lot of riots while in the university in the northern part of my country. I have come to the conclusion that the wisest thing to do in such a situation is to stay away from the scene. This is because a lot of people can use the situation to settle scores with enemies or perceived enemies.
     
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