Sustainable Farming

Discussion in 'Finding, Identifying, and Preparing Food' started by cluckeyo, May 24, 2016.

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  1. cluckeyo

    cluckeyo Well-Known Member
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    I really like the idea of running a sustainable farm. We have chickens, quail, fish, and deer for hunting. I would also like a milk cow. And I'd like to get back into the gardening. It's been a few years since we had a good one. It would not take that much to finish getting set up. The veges could be preserved in jars or dried and sealed with the food saver. If you had more milk than you need, it might be possible to sell it. I know a place nearby that sells their raw milk for $12.00 per gallon. It would be a wonderful thing to not have to rely on the stores to feed ourselves. And it might be necessary someday if everything goes to hell in a handbasket.
     
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  2. acheno84

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    I love the idea of a sustainable farm as well. I think it is very important to learn about the different methods of food preserving that way you can survive if everything goes south. Gardening will help you reduce the amount of money that you spend on food for your farm unless you are already using natural feed that is on your land. Gardening also helps reduce stress so not only does it have nutritional value, it has mental value as well :)
     
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  3. Old Geezer

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    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...rotest-against-spains-socialist-green-agenda/

    "MADRID (AP) – Farmers, cattle-breeders, hunters and opposition supporters descended Sunday on the Spanish capital of Madrid to protest environmental and economic policies by Spain’s left-of-center government that they say are hurting rural communities.

    "Sunday’s protest was organized by Alma Rural 2021, a platform representing over 500 rural organizations from all corners of Spain. Members of opposition parties, ranging from centrists to far-right supporters, also attended.

    "The demonstration came as Spanish politicians are campaigning before an early election in Castilla-Leon, a vast region northeast of Madrid where proposals against depopulation and agricultural policies are taking center stage.

    "Carlos Bueno, head of Alma Rural 2021, said the protest aimed to highlight rural concerns amid what he called amid “ideological” attacks from the government. Concerns ranged from regulating prices for agricultural products to protections for those who breed cattle for bullfights and more subsidies for rural industries."
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  4. lonewolf

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    modern farming with its emphasis on copious amounts of chemical additives is not sustainable.
    mono cropping kills the soil and makes it infertile and its only the chemicals that farmers use that makes it possible, cut the supply chain -in Britain these chemicals and additives are all imported- and you end up with dead soil.
     
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  5. arctic bill

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    I am starting all of my vegetable that need inside starting as the season is too short. stuff like
    squash, cauliflower, broccoli, peppers , cucumbers, tomatoes , eggplant , zucchini ,
     
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  6. Old Geezer

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    Greenhouses are great. People start their seedlings indoors, putting them in the warm light coming through the windows. Shredded paper makes good "soil"; keep it wet. I can still remember the greenhouse guy that my mom always went to to get her seedlings. My grandmother's back porch was a garden support unit.

    Manure is magnificent. The dirt in my garden is dark gray / black. Many first-time gardeners burn their plants using too much fertilizer. You don't gotta worry about that if you turn composted manure into loamy soil. Add peat moss to clay if water won't percolate well (sand does NOT work with hard clay -- makes decent concrete). If our squash were any healthier, they would attack and eat us.

    "10 Insect-Repelling Plants that Drive Away Nasty Pests"

    https://www.wikilawn.com/home-garden/plants-that-repel-insects/

    Preventing squash vine borers

    https://extension.umn.edu/yard-and-garden-insects/squash-vine-borers

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  7. poltiregist

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    Populations have outgrown the mom and pop garden . Without the huge chemical fertilized agriculture fields , most of the human population would starve to death . The chemical fertilizer that those huge commercial field depend upon is now in jeopardy . The small back yard gardens are capable of sustainability because of family created compost and survival critters waste products . City folks will just be out of luck and will face starvation if those huge commercial farms fail .---- Even to be in the proximity of the starving population will put the back yard garden in jeopardy as low life starving sheeple slither into gardens at night .
     
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  8. Old Geezer

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    Speaking of food, here's some food for thought.

    The iron mines crippled my dad's dad (my dad was born in an iron mining camp). What to do? He moved to a small town to work in a factory. He was crippled, how could he work in a factory?! He wasn't dead yet. The "good ol' days weren't. Any idiot jabbering away then uses the phrase "the good old days" I'll turn to this person and give a death stare. Spiritually that could be true, however if we're talking this freaking world, oh NO!, those olden days were hell.

    Even in the mining camps, people grew food and raised hogs.

    Now in a small town, what to do? Everybody -- and I do mean EVERYBODY -- grew gardens. Also, people had fruit trees. Cherries were the popular item in my grandparents' neighborhood (as wiry young boy, I'd pick them for people). There were more cherry trees than apple trees. People also had walnut and pecan trees (out back of my maternal grandparents place was an absolutely enormous pecan tree that Pap's dad planted). Pecans = tasty squirrels. What grass there was was shaded by trees that produced edible fruit. One did NOT waste soil. When we needed greens we'd head out into the county were relatives had fields of curly mustard, spinach, cabbage, ... . Small towns and county farms were different, but not. These were symbiotic. The only fruits that got shipped in were citrus fruits.

    Meat? One went to the local butcher, he'd bring out a half or quarter beef or hog and you'd name your cut. Where did that critter come from? Less than 20 miles away. Adding to the butchery meat, people hunted. My maternal grandpa taught me to hunt and fish. There was no "sport" to it. We weren't "out having fun." Bonding hell, no no no. Pap hunted in earnest (had Cherokee in him). When hunting, I was almost just a thing that got in his way. He turned into some sort of mean killing critter out there. The focus in his eyes were dangerous to see. To this day, I can be driving through forests (I do that a whole lot) and point out hawks and squirrels to which other people are oblivious. Hunting changes you. Changes the wiring in your head. Hunting for food REALLY changes you. Today's people know not hunger.

    Coal, iron, and lead all came from this same region. In the 1700's gunpowder was made locally.

    https://jefferson.tngenealogy.net/research-aids/24-businesses/478-historic-gunpowder-manufacturing

    https://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/mary-mckeehan-patton/

    https://scavengeology.com/lead-and-gunpowder-in-the-wilderness-virginia-lead-mines-part-2/

    https://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/embreeville-mines/

    https://www.nativeseeds.org/blogs/blog-news/how-to-grow-a-three-sisters-garden

    OK, that was then, what about now. In many (most actually) small communities in the South, nothing has changed very much. I see people who have moved in from other places not grow gardens, that sure is true. Gardening supply centers around here are many and BIG. During growing season their parking lots are full of trucks and SUVs. I've squatted my SUV carrying soil additives such as composted manure and :

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    In the suburbs of major cities, homes and the land they stand on have devolved into non-production of anything except grass and concrete driveways. The only thing edible in their yards are weeds ... and they try to kill their weeds. Poke weeds can be rendered (boiled 2x) edible. Dock weed is edible. Sassafras roots make for tea.

    OK, so this is insane. Even if they were educated about growing food, they're too dang lazy to do anything about growing their own food. Boys and girls I've seen in supermarkets tomatoes priced at $2 per. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Think about this. Tear down the fences between these houses, bring out the rototillers, bring in the dried horse manure, bring out the seedlings and grow some dang food. Make the grass disappear and vegetables appear.

    My folk produced, I've produced, a beaucoup of food out of one small garden. This "small gardening" thingy is NOT some theory. During some growing seasons, we've had to pick squash every day so that they wouldn't grow oversized for our use. I take them to work to hand out. Right now, I do not know how much squash we have put back to make squash bread. We've grown our own tomatoes and peppers and whatever else. We don't give any tomatoes away because you can make your own tomato sauce. I've got bags of dried Thai peppers. I am getting so crippled that I'm no good at farming like I was, but I've worked gardens since age twelve up into my 60s.

    I see suburbanites out jogging. I could throw rocks at them. I'll give them some work that will bring out the sweat, plus there will be veggies to be had via their physical efforts. There once was no such thing as meaningless exercise, it was called being productive.

    This would be possible to bring back, unfortunately however, people have forgotten or have never known how to grow their own food. That, ladies and gentlemen, is a deeply fatal mistake.
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  9. lonewolf

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    I dont think the UK govt cares about the nation being self sufficient, they seem to want to make the countryside into a nature park and import all our food, that is not good for future conflicts.
    Globalism dont you just love it?............NOT!
     
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  10. Old Geezer

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    All centralized governments :mad: LOATHE :mad: independent people.
     
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  12. lonewolf

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    its all about control. as we have all seen recently with the covid mandates.
     
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