Teotwawki

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  1. poltiregist

    poltiregist Legendary Survivalist
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    The guy heading the " world health organization " recently admitted life on this planet " will never be the same again " . That from what I was told is the very definition of " teotwawki ". Other health officials have voiced the same thing . This is far from the optimistic pep rally speech we were being feed . Remember the prediction " this will be over in about six weeks ". Now more evidence coming out this virus was created in a lab and crossed between a bat and the aids virus . The aids input was likely done so no cure will likely to be found . Society crumbling not only economically but also people are left with the dilemma "return back to work and intermingling with society " with a high prospect of catching the virus or isolation and watch the unprepared and those that need social contact die . The day of the prepper is indeed here . The bigger question now looming is " how bad will this teotwawki become ? What do you envision the world situation to be two years from now ?
     
  2. lonewolf

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    I don't much care if the unprepared and those that need social contact die, I don't prepare for their benefit, I prepare for me and mine and nobody else.
    some one in the UK govt made a remark the other day about "the new normal" interesting as I have been using this term for years.
     
  3. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Poltiregist,

    In re question 1;

    Many more deaths in US - especially among the elderly and sick. Health care to be rationed primarily for those working. Retirements only in old age; unhealthy - not like now; includes me. I really should be working but system allows me to do this leisure life like the landed gentry of olden times.

    Warehous ....... er .... nursing homes, old age homes, related, going away. Adult children will be obliged for taking care of parents. If not the adult children will be denied work and decent housing.

    Criminals won't have it like today. They will be doing hard labor repairing the city streets and the like. Those violent prisoners won't be doing hard labor nor resting in bunk bed. Criminals like those having babies outside of wedlock with family living arrangements will lose child custody and work alongside prisoners doing street repair.

    In re question 2;

    Can anticipate a steady stream of continued warfare for currently small failed nations to morph into large region nations. Terrorism will be confronted with view to use the terrorists' bodies for area fertilizer.

    The US will modify its regional system to encompass the end of counties (less big historic ones) and small cities. Big metro centers will be more developed. We might see the large reduction of private car ownership and more use of trollies, and street cars - if there's a difference (little cable cars go halfway to the San Francisco Art Institute).

    Preppers will be on top of the US pile. The pile will be compost.

    I doubt that the US will continue to fund the bloated UN.

    I believe the Asian societies can be a glimpse of what to expect here in the US.

    If the US capital relocates to Nebraska, it could be an enhancement.

    If the US finance center, New York City, relocates to ___________ , it could be an enhancement.
     
  4. Dalewick

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    If this is the TEOTWAWKI event, then I'm going to use it to better my life as many others won't be prepared, and I am. Me and the misses are already looking for land since around here prices are dropping. She thinks a new and more remote home is the order of the day. I can get on board with that. Already had the virus and still standing, so there's that.
    I'm not sure this event classifies as a TEOTWAWKI event, (at least not for me). Life constantly changes and this is just another change. I am afraid many will use this as an excuse to quit working. They'll say the government ruined them and that the government should take care of them now. People use any excuse to quit.

    Dale
     
  5. lonewolf

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    at the moment there is plenty of food in the shops here, I predict the problems wont come now but later in the year or maybe next year when there haven't been enough people to harvest this years crop, farmers are pouring milk down the drain because restaurants, cafe's and coffee shops are in lockdown and the demand for the milk is down.
     
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  6. Alaskajohn

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    I must have missed this announcement. Where did this come from?
     
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  7. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Alaskajohn,

    Not sure if you're being facetious.

    No current formal announcements.

    It's been talked about for years. All US Capital personnel can't have emergency relocation reassignments in West Virginia. The US government is just too big.

    If there's ever a time to relocate the staff sections to a new area, the second Trump administration would go forward - real fast.
     
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    For those people who are too lazy to work...

     
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  9. poltiregist

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    I predict and am concentrating my preparations with the global situation in two years to be somewhat similar to what Venezuela was in at the same bench mark in time " at two years after their financial and job collapse " . Remember that Venezuela kid that was on this site for a few weeks that lived in Venezuela . He was afraid to walk home from work at night from fear of being mugged . Another guy making films of what life was like in Venezuela wisely hired a local to escort him and serve as a body guard . Two years from now a high populated area I predict will be a very dangerous place to live . Scrounging around in the parks and such for a pigeon or cat to eat became the mission for the day for some that once lived in the country with the third highest income on the planet . No doubt some or succeeding better there than others . I plan to be one of those prospering in such an environment . How was I able to predict to you guys BEFORE the virus came upon the world stage that we would see a toilet paper shortage , " I looked at Venezuela and their toilet paper shortage " .
     
  10. TMT Tactical

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    Just one reason I pulled out all my extra cash from the banks. I watched the banks close their doors and people were limited to what they could get from the ATM. I do admit I missed the part about toilet paper being in short supply. Exchanging their currency for dollars on the black market, beat the heck out of the VZ exchange rate. use cash for items before the inflation made the currency worthless. I have to wonder why socialist can never learn for socialist failures. The typical definition of insanity is doing the same thing, the same way and expecting different results. Socialist and Liberals are insane.
     
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  11. poltiregist

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    Yesterday my son confronted a lone male siting in a pickup truck on our dead end road . He said he was jobless and homeless . I spent another night on guard duty . It is breaking dawn now . I came in the house for a cup coffee . This is becoming the new normal .
     
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    The night before last a suspected prowler outside another one of the houses on our retreat . My grandson fired a warning shot from a shotgun . My grandson and I have agreed while on guard duty at night to not go to each others houses . That way we will not be in danger of shooting each other in the darkness .
     
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  13. Pragmatist

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    Good evening Poltiregist,

    https://www.streamlight.com/search-results?searchQuery=sidewinder rescue&indexCatalogue=full-site


    I saw your above post several hours ago but only now had time to develop a reply.

    When grandson and you are working a night situational awareness assignment, a rapidly changing situation could realistically occur. I'll inject here FEMA's famous "realistic worst case scenario".

    It ranges from possible to probable that grandson and you might have to visit each other's house during nighttime with the worst kind of limited visibility ... an ice storm, tornado, whatever.

    Rather than a - never - visit rule, here is what we here on this side of the fruited plain use:

    Above link tells of a small clip-on flashlight with selector dial for 3 different color lights - very small for reading maps.

    Blue light is best for ultra-dark nights.

    If any of us must walk around this set -up here, we will wear this clip-on light in blue mode. It's both a safety measure and identification matter. Situational awareness is a prime concern in this neck of the fruited plain.

    I'm not writing all the specifics but you know what I'm doing. If it works for you and grandson all the value. If not Streamlight's catalog, via above link to main section, can serve as a good reference tool. Catalog has charts on beam focus, the lumins criteria (I remember the old days of candle power !), etc.
     
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  14. Skywalker

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    Dead prowlers make good compost for your garden.
     
  15. TMT Tactical

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    Dad had a backhoe for such visitors. He did not like shovel work either. :D
     
  16. Dalewick

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    I'm surprised you don't have man to man comms. There plenty cheap enough and can really come in handy. But you know that I'm sure. I also use a hand held laser for directing people and fire at night. Easy way to let my people know where I'm at (I use a bright green beam) or to safely point out trouble. I look for anything that can give me an edge.

    Dale
     
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  17. lonewolf

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    everyone who lives here knows who else lives here and a stranger would stick out a mile.
    we are so far from a city and so rural that crime is very low, it probably isn't worth the fuel .
     
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  18. poltiregist

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    Thanks for the the suggestions . I don't think we would want to give our positions away with a light , unless the shooting was over . A colored light to enter another field of fire could have an advantage if the shooting was over . The first light I want my advisory to see is the muzzle flash from the end of a gun barrel . Now that two way radio suggestion I will look into . Even with radio , I wouldn't want to break silence and use it until the shooting had already begun . Using the radio in order to be able to enter another shooting zone safely to give back up could have its advantages .
     
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    1. Dalewick
      With the new headsets and throat microphones you can either communicate by breaking squelch or by whispering. With the earbud in the adversary hears nothing. My group uses squelch and breaks once for all clear and twice for a contact. If bullets are flying we use the comms for coordination, SITREP's and fire control.
      If your group has night vision units have you considered IR lights or lasers? I doubt crooks will have such most of the time. I don't have enough for everyone so there not in our plans yet.
       
      Dalewick, Apr 26, 2020
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  19. lonewolf

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    the main problem post TEOTWAWKI in my location wont be gun battles, it will be not enough time to do all the jobs and chores I need to do in a post collapse world.
     
  20. poltiregist

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    I don't buy into the political pep talks given to keep the sheeple calm . This economic collapse shouldn't bother a prepper but may actually be something a prepper would be looking forward to . There is one thing I do agree with that is being picked up and re-touted by the pep talk givers . " Life will never be the same again " as the pre virus and likely pre greater depression days . Some of the pep talk givers are also beginning to realize there may " never " be a vaccine to stop the virus from hopping from host to host . Some on here have known this for weeks and are far ahead of the pep talks given out to keep the gullible masses calm . Most serious preppers know this is not the end of the collapse . It is not even the middle of the collapse . We are just beginning to see the first of the collapse and the beginning of a new age " teotwawki " .
     
  21. lonewolf

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    I don't think we are even at the beginning of TEOTWAWKI yet, no systems have collapsed yet, banking and ATM's seem to be functioning okay, the lights and power are still on and the stores are full of food.
    I'm waiting to see what happens when the UK govt lifts the lockdown, even partially, we could well see a second wave of infection and death as soon as the sheeple think its all over and back to "normal", as happened in Germany and they had to lockdown a second time.
     
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  22. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Lonewolf,

    Is it not fair to say that the airline system is in a form of collapse ?

    The related hotels - the hospitality trade with the restaurants as part of this grouping - is in trouble.

    Here in the upstart colonies - at least part of Lord Fairfax's successful venture, the grocery stores do have shortages and canned foods are rationed. I only go out every week or 10 days for mail and sneak in some pulp newspapers at a 7-11 store. Just because I'm out I stop at my grocery store for some perishables not really needed. There are empty places where paper products are scarce with rationing signs about shelves. Same also for the steaks section.

    A tangent; Call me a wacko, a cynic, an idiot ....... I just can't believe one of the world's richest and the most powerful man in the world would travel from D.C. to Arizona without some form of inoculation against COVID - not necessarily an immunization but something. In my view COVID is "merely" a new, strong strain of one of the flu series originating in the Middle Kingdom.
     
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  23. poltiregist

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    Pragmatist the same here at the stores . Shelves of various food items becoming scarcer with each passing day . Those pep talks just aren't making those shelves magically fill up . Food shortages and money printed out of thin air will cause the value of money to drop and the cost of any available food to rise . Those that prepped for a temporary crises may be in a bind over next few months .
     
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  24. watcherchris

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    I'm not looking forward to it.

    Some out here are in for a very very stark awakening ...many of us in fact.

    The things so many took for granted in this country due to our economic affluence....ie...security blanket....will begin to disappear.

    I am thinking that many of the effeminate males and the feminists are in for a rude awakening ...

    The Feminists have in their own way and over the years ...have gone from a man or male as a wallet to the government as a wallet/security blanket....for the female vote.

    I am suspecting that this in particular is going to change...as the economic affluence which so many have taken for granted...even entitlement.....disappears.

    Agree...it may become dangerous just to go to the stores and get groceries and such....even the convenience stores..


    Finally forced myself today..to go to Wally World. Got a case of Sterno fuel.....six two can packs of fuel...12 cans total...and put it away to replace my cans which were years olde and never used.

    Have done the same a few weeks ago at work and replaced the two cans there with two /two packs...total four cans of fuel.

    Fueled up my truck today and it was near empty after sitting since February...and drove it to Wally World and back...parked it. Ran my ham HF Radio and knocked the arthritis out of it as well as the truck after they sat for so long...not run.

    My underarm holster arrived for my 1911 today. Will adjust it for fit over the weekend.


    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  25. Ystranc

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    Earlier in the thread Pragmatist mentioned the airlines going into financial meltdown along with some of the associated industries. One major change that I can imagine is a dramatic if not complete reduction in world travel for non essential purposes. While fuel prices are at a temporary low I can see them rising fast as the industry attempts to recoup losses.
    I have good preps and can wind my neck in for up to a year but after that I'm unsure about the financial side of things. A big part of our income came from dealing in a wide variety of antique or vintage goods, while there is currently still an online market I doubt this will last. I buy and sell a lot of vintage Sheffield knives but since the lockdown I have been unable to buy replacement stock...this means that I've resorted to selling off some of my personal collection just to keep things ticking over. Things are already starting to run down.
    I see this as a choice between a long drawn out strangulation of the economy or sacrificing a large part of the population along with our own humanity for the sake of re starting the economy earlier, this is known as a tragic choice or no win situation.
     
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  26. lonewolf

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    it is true the Airline industry is mostly at a standstill although I did hear of some planes operating the other day, I think they were Eastern European.
    the tourist industry in the south west of England-guest houses and hotels- is suffering without any customers, many of the smaller guest houses may never reopen.
    neither of which affects me personally. I always "staycation".
    many companies will probably make more use of video conferencing in the future and cut out a lot of travel expenses, I believe business will alter to fit the new "normal".
    the two things I haven't been able to do since the lockdown is go to open air food markets and car boot sales and I don't think they will restart at all this year due to the social distancing rules which will still be in place.
     
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      I used to love the car boot sales. I still have a set of hand made and painted candlesticks I picked up for 2 quid. Unbelievable some of the great bargains. We don't have anything as good in Aus.
       
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  27. lonewolf

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    I've picked up some decent stuff at car boots over the years, I hope they will restart again next year although I think Ebay and Amazon have killed a lot of them off.
     
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