The Coming Starvation

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  1. poltiregist

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    --- Lets try a different link to the fall of Ecuador . Note the above link is about 4 days old , since then things have gotten worse . The government leader succumbed to the mass panic of the unprepared since the above link was made .
     
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  2. lonewolf

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    link didnt show any info, as you said.
    once the rioters take over everything will shut down and you have anarchy. SHTF occurs.
     
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  3. Max rigger

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    Just read a report of people in the USA panic buying the 'morning after' pill, with some chains limiting sales to three per person. Sad state of affairs when women have their rights removed and are forced to do this but better that than a back street abortion or travelling out of state for a legal abortion.
     
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  4. TMT Tactical

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    Women can still get abortions and the abortion pills, just not as easy as before. The individual states and the states voters will decide the abortion issues. That is how democracy works. Abortion is NOT a constitutional right.
     
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  5. lonewolf

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    just as long as this is a US problem it wont affect the UK, I dont want this country of mine to go back to the 50s and 60s with all the back street abortions, we dont need that again.
     
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  6. Old Geezer

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    Many countries are filling-up with people, mostly outsiders. Who is going to feed all these newly-arrived people? Many are totally undocumented so who knows what the true population numbers are! Too, these people are not assimilating; often they continue with their own language and culture. Countries now have one given food supply and two separate countries to feed INSIDE their own border. If that doesn't spell conflict, I don't know what does. When food supplies drop to unacceptable levels, who gets the food? "Food fight!", and this one isn't going to be amusing.

    It's bad in Europe; however, the numbers are really, really bad here in America and also in England.

    47,000,000

    https://www.amren.com/news/2022/06/foreign-born-population-hit-record-47-million-in-april-2022/

    "An analysis of the Census Bureau’s monthly Current Population Survey (CPS) shows that the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal) in the U.S. hit 47 million in April of 2022 — a record high in American history. The foreign-born population includes all persons who are not U.S. citizens at birth. The size and growth of the foreign-born population in the CPS are important because, unlike arrival figures for legal immigrants or border apprehensions, the CPS measures the total number of legal and illegal immigrants actually living in the country, which is what ultimately determines immigration’s impact on American society."

    "Supreme Court: Biden Can End Trump-era ‘Remain in Mexico’ Immigration Policy"

    https://www.breitbart.com/news/supreme-court-biden-properly-ended-trump-era-asylum-policy/

    "WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that the Biden administration properly ended a Trump-era policy forcing some U.S. asylum-seekers to wait in Mexico."

    "Biden Is Nowhere To Be Found After Unleashing Total Chaos At The Southern Border"

    https://ussanews.com/2022/06/26/bid...nleashing-total-chaos-at-the-southern-border/

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    "Census: British Population Hits All Time High, Driven Mostly By Migration"


    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...its-all-time-high-driven-mostly-by-migration/

    The population of England and Wales has hit a new all-time high according to the first statistical release of once-in-a-decade census, the statistical agency saying the majority of population growth is due to immigration.

    After taking over a year to publish its first batch of census figures, the government has revealed that the population of England and Wales rose by 6.3 per cent over the previous ten-year recording period, taking the total to nearly 60 million. When combined with Northern Ireland and Scotland, the other two integral members of the United Kingdom, the population rose to almost 67 million.

    “I don’t believe any of these figures,” Mr Farage said on his GB News programme on Tuesday evening. “There are huge numbers of people now who just don’t fill in census forms… Certainly, if you were here illegally you wouldn’t fill in a census form, so I’m very very sceptical about those figures”.

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...rs-pushes-British-population-record-high.html

    "Almost a quarter of all babies in Britain are now born to immigrant mothers. In London the figure is 54 per cent, rising to 75 per cent in some boroughs.

    "Foreign-born mothers have an average of 2.54 children, compared with 1.79 for women born in the UK."

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  7. lonewolf

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    the non UK born population of the UK is 9.5 million or 14% of the population.
     
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  8. Old Geezer

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    Here in the States, we are getting overrun. However, Hispanic crime rates are not horrific. Their violent crime rates are 2x that of people of European origin; but considering that European blood lines are not particularly given to random violence in the first place, 2x that low rate isn't terrible. Due to Leftists placing abortion clinics near Black neighborhoods and due to the unimaginable amount of Black on Black violence, the population of African Americans is not increasing by much. (One out of three black male adults living in urban areas has a felony conviction. A black neighbor of mine is back in prison. We are in a small town area.) Hispanic gangs ARE a problem for everybody, including Hispanics. Hispanic gangs have driven Blacks out of their neighborhoods. Some Central American gangs are killing machines. When it hits the fan, such gangs will have to be eliminated by any means necessary. They exist via predation.

    Hispanics have morals and an above-average work ethic. It's just that Americans on welfare should be taking the jobs immigrants -- often here illegally -- fill. Too, any nation has a carrying capacity of humans living on that real estate. Humans consume resources. America's urban areas are already beyond carrying capacity.

    Here's a story of Blacks being driven out of their homes/neighborhood by a Hispanic gang. Inevitably one or more of these gang members were convicted.
    https://abc7.com/big-hazard-street-gang-firebombing-charges-firebombings/1417724/
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  9. Max rigger

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    Its a fundamental human right for a woman to have control of her body and removing that right is NOT how democracy works and is merely a demonstration of how the far right are slowly but surely taking over.
     
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      A fetus is another life with its own unique genetic code. It is most assuredly not a part of the woman's body. Only at the placental level do you need a trained pathologist / anatomist to differentiate maternal from embryonic / fetal cells.

      When looking at a pregnant human, you are looking at human with another human living inside of her. All people who've had human anatomy and physiology courses know this. I've worked in cadaver labs on dozens of occasions. I know these human pieces-parts rather well. Have you looked into the insides of other people? Have you held an embryo or a fetus in your own hands?
       
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  10. TexDanm

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    The gangs won't last for very long. When they don't have the police protecting them they will be easy targets for decent people that are not going to have to put up with their crap. The cops offer more protection to criminals than they do to regular people. In most areas, everyone knows who the criminals are. The cops can't do anything unless they can catch them in the act. When things go back to the old ways that sort of thing won't fly. People will just get together and go kill the SOB. Lynchings are rough justice but they are very effective. Without the protection of the laws criminals just don't live long. When someone steals the food that you need to feed your family you hunt them down and kill them. Good people will form into "gangs" of their own and thieves won't get probation.

    This is rough but if things go down and stay down for more than about a year there are going to be a LOT of people killed in short order. Criminals will not work and won't provide for themselves. They are going to steal what they want. Right now that is a pretty lucrative lifestyle. They live pretty well off and then when they get caught they spend a little time in jail where they are still being fed on your dollar. Unless they rob a bank or kill someone they never stay in prison for long. There is no way to "rehabilitate" a thief. HE IS A THIEF. That isn't what he does, it is what he IS.

    They don't steal because they are hungry. We feed them for free already. They don't always even need what they steel. Some do it to support a drug habit. Most though are just thieves and too lazy to work so they steal. Our prisons are filled with habitual criminals that will NEVER be anything else. When life is easy we can play the "rehabilitate them" game. When your family goes hungry because some lazy thief robbed you and stole food from you it isn't a game anymore. When the store shelves are bare and I am feeding my family from my land if you steal from my garden or steal a chicken or animal, I'm going to kill you. You are no better than a fox or coon and will get the same treatment...
     
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  11. poltiregist

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    In light of TexDanm's above post decided to drop the above link onto you guys . This is the town in which my tribe mainly shop . Yes in this area they indeed would hang a thief after the law is no more . This is not an area to mess with .
     
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  12. Old Geezer

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    A fetus is another life with its own unique genetic code. It is most assuredly not a part of the woman's body. Only at the placental level do you need a trained pathologist / anatomist to differentiate maternal from embryonic / fetal cells.

    When looking at a pregnant human, you are looking at human with another human living inside of her. All people who've had human anatomy and physiology courses know this. I've worked in cadaver labs on dozens of occasions. I know these human pieces-parts rather well.

    The lies of the Left sink into mushy minds. The MSM perpetually screams Leftist dogma.
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  13. Old Geezer

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    "The devastating impact of rising food prices on Americans"

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ing-impact-of-rising-food-prices-on-americans

    "Skyrocketing food prices are regressive and particularly damaging to them, as they spend a greater share of their after-tax income on food compared with higher-income Americans.

    "Their trade-offs might not just be giving up a night at the movies or not going out to dinner. It might be far worse, such as not going to the doctor or not running the air conditioning.

    "During the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Trump administration and government at all levels recognized that removing harmful government regulations and other negative interventions was critical to allowing the resilient food supply chain to adjust and get Americans the food that they needed.

    "But things have changed for the worse. Instead of removing barriers, the Biden administration is creating an endless stream of regulatory obstacles across the economy, including in energy and labor.

    "The administration’s war on energy is one of the main culprits in driving up food prices. Energy is an input that affects sectors across the economy, including the food sector. From turning on lights and operating machinery to transporting goods, energy is critical across the food supply chain.

    "It is also critical to the food supply chain in ways that may not seem as obvious. For example, high energy prices drive up the costs to farmers for a key agricultural input — namely, fertilizer.

    "More than 57% of the fertilizer used in the United States is nitrogenous, and a critical input for nitrogenous fertilizers is natural gas, which can account for 70% to 90% of its manufacturing cost. When the price of fertilizer goes up, those increased costs can show up in the price of food.

    "Energy prices in general just went up 34.6% in May, which is the eighth month in a row above 25%. For gasoline specifically, based on the latest Energy Information Administration data , regular retail gas prices more than doubled (up 109%) since President Joe Biden took office, with the average price per gallon at $5.01 for the week ending June 13, 2022. This is taking its toll on the food sector, just as it has taken its toll on our wallets at the gas pump.

    "Yet instead of promoting policies to actually address energy costs (and despite some of its rhetoric), the Biden administration is imposing new permitting requirements hindering energy production and sending a very clear signal to oil and gas companies that it doesn’t want their industry to even exist."
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    It's gonna get worse for Americans -- particularly for urbanites. However, Americans have it "easy" compared to other countries and continents. Tens of millions are going to starve to death in Africa. The Middle East will see wars due to famine; likely, Asia and Africa also. Many tens of millions will attempt to enter Europe.

    Remember, the deep famines are yet to come. We will see mass starvation in 2023 and likely earlier, maybe in November/December 2022.

    In the USSA, the Left must cause havoc and mayhem prior to the November elections, lest they lose the House of Representatives. The deep state could do things like support an assassination attempt on biden, so as to blame it on the Right. The Left loves the concept of victims/victimization. They have the psych pathology of Jesus syndrome. They want to beat their chests and be the savior of the "oppressed". Talking about crazy, things here sure are going to get crazy ... and then some.
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  14. Max rigger

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    A fetus is just another lump of organic matter growing in a woman and if she does not want it in her body then thats her choice and she'll live with the memory of the choice she made every day for the rest of her life, but the bottom line on this is thats its her choice whether to go full term with a pregnancy or not and how dare you and the other sanctimonious hand wringing, bleating moaners impose your dubious moral standards on women at large.

    WARNING, IMAGE BELOW CONTAINS A SWEAR WORD SO IF YOUR OVERLY SENSITIVE DO NOT READ THE CAPTION

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  15. TexDanm

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    Depending on where you live there is a good chance that you will be better served by fishing for your protean than hunting for it. Unless you know how and are prepared to set up and smoke cure the meat a deer for one or two people is sort of a waste. If you are on the move small kills work better. Once you settle the first thing after you make your personal shelter it to put up a smoke house. Chickens are the perfict food animal. One chicken is one meal.

    I think that to some extent not having freezers will be the greatest hardship for a lot of people. I am fortunate in that we canned when I was young and even after I married the family would get together and can a lot of stuff. With a pressure caner you can put up food for months at the least that other wise would only have a shelf life of a few days to a week.

    What pressure cooking does is virtually sterilize the food that you are canning. This allows it to last for a long time. Then you tighten the lids on the jars or seal the lids on the cans and it will keep. When it cools it sucks the lids down tight.

    Home canned food tastes like fresh cooked food and NOT like the can food you buy in the stores. It doesn’t have anything in it that isn’t food and spices. No artificial anything and no preservatives.

    The ability to can your food is every bit as important as growing it. You can’t live eating out of the garden. You have to be able to have a big harvest and then put it up in some fashion that will allow it to stay eatable for months and months. Once you have put up all you can then you let the stuff finish and dry and then store it as dry beans, peas, and grains. We always did our beans, peas and corn as a two harvest thing . Once when it is young and tender for canning and then later in the season when it is dry and kept in that state rather than canned.

    Where I live you can garden to some extent about 11 months out of the year. There have been some years when we never got a killing freeze and had the garden survive into the following spring. We got several pickings off of them and usually let them go and started with new plants after an early spring picking. We let them go a second year once but they didn’t produce as well as younger first year plants.
     
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  16. Old Geezer

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    "A fetus is just another lump of organic matter ..."

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    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/when-does-a-fetus-have-a-heartbeat#timeline

    "The heart of an embryo starts to beat from around 5–6 weeks of pregnancy. Also, it may be possible to see the first visible sign of the embryo, known as the fetal pole, at this stage."

    https://flo.health/pregnancy/pregnancy-health/fetal-development/fetal-brain-development

    "When does a fetus develop a brain?
    "The brain begins with the neural tube, formed in the first month of the embryo’s growth. The neural tube closes around week 6 or 7, at which point the brain separates into three parts: front brain, midbrain, and hindbrain. These three parts will eventually develop into the specialized parts of the brain, and the cerebrum will fold into the left and right halves of the brain.

    "Stages of prenatal brain development
    "From the time the neural tube closes, around week 7, the brain will grow at a rate of 250,000 neurons per minute for the next 21 weeks. Ultrasounds can reveal the embryo moving as early as 6 weeks after conception (or 8 pregnancy weeks), detecting the electrical impulses that govern movement and indicating that the brain is beginning to function.

    "The first trimester
    "During the first trimester, the brain develops rapidly and makes up nearly half of the fetus’s weight. For comparison, by the time your baby is born, the brain is only 10 percent of their body weight. In the first trimester, the brain will grow millions of neurons, which connect across synapses to direct movement and growth."
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  17. lonewolf

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    this thread has turned into an abortion argument and is way way off topic so I am shutting it down (moderator).
     
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