"the Golden Horde".....survival Myth???

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  1. lonewolf

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  2. Ken S LaTrans

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    The so-called "Golden Horde" won't be as big as people think in my opinion. Yes, there will be some who get out...but I honestly believe that the vast majority of city dwellers won't leave their comfort zone...no matter how uncomfortable it gets. Those who do finally take the decision to leave will do it too late to be able to get out. Those who manage to trickle through will be eaten before they get too far.

    In a non-hostile environment...they may be able to move further, but honestly in Arizona the desert is a literal hell to traverse on foot. Even in Phoenix the freeways are a goat rope and they will be clogged tighter than a nun's snatch. So, people will be reduced to walking or riding bikes and bikes will be stolen, food and water will be fought over, and bedlam will reign. Those who do manage to leak through will be further reduced in number as they pass through the smaller cities...

    The Golden Horde will be reduced to a Dirty Gaggle by the time they get out into the small desert towns. One thing is a pretty sure bet...the street sides will be littered with drying and rotting sacks of human meat.
     
  3. Keith H.

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    A good read mate, thanks for sharing. I go along with that. Certainly I think we would get raiders, we get them now so I am damn sure we would get raiders after shtf, but not the "hoard".
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  4. Ystranc

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    Small groups of determined raiders with the skills to move quietly and shoot from concealment are certainly more dangerous to me then a horde of tired and hungry city folks who make too much noise, wear inappropriate footwear and are afraid of the dark.
     
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  5. Keith H.

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    Absolutely agree.
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  6. TexDanm

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    There is lots of truth in this. People just don't believe in being self reliant anymore. The flip side of this is that they will sit there and then suddenly try to "evacuate" in mass. These sheeple will leave their homes in a car with very little gas and carry no food or water or ANYTHING with them. The road around the huge mega urban areas rapidly become impassible and they run out of gas or overheat and then just sit there. I have actually seen this when the people in Houston freaked and tried to evacuate when Rita was coming in after Katrina had hit New Orleans. Between those that don't go and those that go too late most of the people in the mega ant piles will not make it for long or get very far.
     
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  7. Old Geezer

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    I believe there will be bunches (maybe not hordes) of folk who'll abandon the cities.

    Worse however will be those masses intentionally moved by government agencies such as FEMA (g.d.government!!!!! g.d. government !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! g.d. government!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

    If the gov. does this to your area, then you and your family are raped dead. You will have no choice but to bug out of there. I can see me headed to the mountains of Tennessee to be with my own. And if I get killed there, I'll have Sacred soil in which to be buried.
     
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  8. lonewolf

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    i don't think anyone will actually evacuate the cities in the UK, what we might get is Raiders/Scavengers coming out from the city but they will return with anything they find, anyone who lives near a city will have to watch out.
     
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  9. Oldguy

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    Depending on the exact cause and time then there may well be a horde that leaves some of Australias big cities.
    Most of our population is on the east coast so the cities are surrounded by decent land and the horde will not need to go too far.
    Our dry areas are sparsly populated now so no hordes possible there.
    Our population is fairly mobile now so most do not have deep roots where they are and will vacate our cities quick and easy, many are from country areas and will seek to return to there rural roots as they do now when they get in trouble in the city.

    Not everyone in cities are helpless sheeple many have grown up in the country and only moved to the city for work or education, every holidays there is a mass exidus of young to middle aged people heading home to the family farm, most of those will get there one way or another.
    Most unit blocks in my area have at least one country style beat up 4x4 in the parking areas
     
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  10. lonewolf

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    yes there may be different outcomes in different countries, the UK dosent have the pioneer history of the US or Australia and our population is about 80% city based and 4 generations removed from the land and is in no way or form remotely self reliant, most of them don't even know where their food comes from and even in some cases which animal.
    there is a mentality here of being reliant on the government or state for all things, as we say here "from cradle to grave", most people don't even own a flashlight .
    as soon as they get unemployed they are straight down the food bank, sometimes the next day, not the sort that is going to survive any kind of catastrophe-natural or man made.
     
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    Please forgive me, but what exactly is a "golden horde"? I'm really confused.
     
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  12. Keith H.

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    I agree Crys, it is a confusing name. The Golden Hoard is a lot of people leaving the cities to try & survive in the countryside. Perhaps the name is derived from "the privileged", the people who have plenty because they have the money to pay for it.
    Keith.
     
  13. Oldguy

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    Lonewolf
    Australia is over 90% urban but our urban areas are very spread out, not very compact at all so the sheer logistic effort involved in getting large numbers assembled prevents those large numbers assembling.
    I was stuck in the middle of this countries largest Gang/ethnic group conflict several years ago,
    weapon of choice was a fence paling and rocks.
    When gang/ethnic group reinforcements arrived by car they were moved on or quickly arrested.
    Each side numbered several hundred
    There was a lot of shouting, a lot of arm swinging and prancing, fake charges and a few strikes that hit home.

    I had recently watched an Attenbro doco on chimp tribes in Africa in conflict and the similarities immediately struck me! humans have not evolved much in the last million or so years was what I took away from that day.

    In times of trouble mans base instincts are always there when the veneer of civilization falls away.
     
  14. lonewolf

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    the cities in the UK are either like London several hundreds of miles to the East of my location, that's the biggest one at 8.6 million inhabitants, the other big cities are in the midlands(the middle of the country) again many hundreds of miles this time North of my location, I think Birmingham is the biggest of these with 1 million population.
    people in the cities know very little about the countryside, nature or rural life, apart from camping on regulated sites-mostly around the coast- many seem to be actually scared to venture into the more remoter areas .
     
  15. Crys B.

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    Thank you! I'd never heard that term before.

    That could definitely be an issue. I, admittedly, would be goign out in the middle of nowhere!
     
  16. TexDanm

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    The Golden Horde refers to the Mongol hordes that swept across the world killing nearly everyone that they encountered.

    The Golden Horde was established by the Grandson of Genghis Kahn in the 13th century. In this case it is referring to a huge mass of refugees flooding out of the megacities taking and/or destroying everything that they can find in the small towns and countryside.
     
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  17. lonewolf

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    I think "The Golden Horde" was coined by the father of JW Rawles and he was referring to the Mongol Hordes of Genghis Khan, previous to that they were just referred to as the Mongol hordes.
    JW Rawles refers to this in one of his books.
     
  18. Ystranc

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    Nice background information guys, I didn't know that. I'd assumed it was referring to the threat from communist China in the 1950's but obviously not.
     
  19. lonewolf

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    surely that was the "Red" horde!!!:D
     
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