"things Are Going To Get Worse" - Florida Gas Shortages Intensify As Dorian Becomes Category 3 Hurri

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  1. elkhound

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  3. Sonofliberty

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    I filled up yesterday. OTOH, if they keep revising the track it may miss us entirely.
     
  4. elkhound

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    i hope it misses everyone and just turns and goes out to sea and falls apart there.
     
  5. GrizzlyetteAdams

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    I like this guy at Tropical Tidbits, who lives in my browser's toolbar from June through September every year because I have loved ones who still live in deepest, darkest Louisiana. (https://www.tropicaltidbits.com)

    Here's the latest rundown and explanations for current projections:

     
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    For those who are not experienced with high-cat 'canes: even if you are 100 miles or so inland, if Dorian stays a Cat 4 the devastation could be pretty much statewide. Don't wanna even think about a Cat 5...


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  7. Old Geezer

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    Hope Dorian heads towards Florida, stops, backs off, heads back out to sea traveling northeast, strengthens to 5, to cat 6, to 7, and beyond. Off Maryland, Dorian becomes indescribable in ferocity and in width (hundreds of miles wide) and heads further out to sea. I hope the urbanites move back into their apartments in the cities, throw parties, and flip the storm the bird. I then hope that Dorian stops then heads due west at a horrendous velocity and levels everything from D.C. to Boston. I would that the Earth be scraped to its surface and all the debris and tens of millions of human bodies be swept out to sea.

    It is well past time for there to be the "wailing and gnashing of teeth."

    I myself will not shed a tear.
     
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    That's vicious. There are still many good people living there amongst the liberals.
     
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  9. TMT Tactical

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    Old Geezer, that is cutting the nose off to spite the face. We should not wish the demise of good people to get rid of the bad. As much as I dislike the Libertards and sheeple, they are not worth the life of one good person. We have to keep the thorns to add value to the roses. Without the sheeple and wolves, us guard dogs would become too lazy.
     
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    Geez, Old Geezer... that's some mighty dark musings. I remember reading something you said....something about being shocked and dumbfounded by human behavior... well, you turned the tables and shocked the crap out of me.

    I hope you feel better, soon!


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    Good morning Radar, TMT Tactical and Grizz,

    It's a dash advanced but it's called "literary license".

    A point is being made; figuratively speaking and literally speaking do have differences.

    The local high school football team training to slaughter the non local foot ball team don't have Saladin as a coach.

    Old Geizer's narrative is a counterpart to a "figure of speech".

    Must stop now. Getting busy to storm the Bastille.......not "literally" the place in France. I'm working on setting up barricades to keep the hurricane away from the county line.
     
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    Looks the the Bahamas are going to take a pounding harder than a virgin cheerleader. Only problem here is, where are they getting the money to rebuild?
     
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    Good morning F22 Simpilot,

    So far, in recent history, the Bahamas had money to rebuild.

    A cruise ship company owns one of the islands. The USN has a submarine test range there. There are many rich citizens and visitors. They'll come through this hurricane also.
     
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  14. poltiregist

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    We all saw how the people reacted when hurricane SANDY hit the east coast . All that whining and a crying and Sandy was just a cat 3 . They may get a chance to see what a real hurricane looks like this time .
     
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  15. Sonofliberty

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    Well, I think the reports of gas shortages are overblown. Out of curiosity, I drove around Orlando this morning and did not see a single gas station that was out of fuel or even any with long lines.
     
  16. Old Geezer

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    It has come time in this country to proceed with a mass-divorce.

    Conservative / Libertarian / Constitution-loving states need to be established. Anti-Constitution, pro-European-Socialist states need to be established. The left-coast Pacific states could form a leftist union. New England could also form a leftist union. Heartland America could stay the same -- i.e. continue to be a union of states organized by the Constitution. Only the top part of Florida, panhandle, only those areas are still part of America. The bottom half of Florida is a Hispanic territory (Florida will inevitably return to being underneath the Atlantic, so might as well get'er'done right now).

    If not living there already: Patriotic Americans should move to Heartland America. Leftist secular-humanist people should move to one of the Amerikas or Europe (which would be a much better choice). The hordes of refugees should head for one of the Amerikas. Heartland America, would of course take in the military services. Leftists only care about the military when the men and women therein are doing something for them. Leftists never want the military to do military things unless it is the destruction of anything right-wing.

    If Commie Cuba could be cleansed, the true / patriotic Cubans living in America could return home. They do love their island country, after all.

    The Pacific Coast States of Amerika and/or the New England States of Amerika could become part of Canada, however I really do NOT think Canada would have them.
     
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    Now I agree that there will come a time when the left goes too far and a split will happen. Then the good folks can take a stand against the Libertards and sheeple. The "Free Lunch" crowd and the "Nanny State" wimps can have their own states. The Hard working, tax paying people will form their own states. It won't take long before any before any hard working folks decide to abandon their socialist hell hole. No need to sacrifice any good people to bad weather, just to get rid of the lice.
     
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    Sandy was a cat 3 when it hit Cuba. It then weakened to a tropical storm and finally made it back to a Cat 1 hurricane before it went in as a Cat 1 ( According to the National Hurricane Center Sandy made landfall near Brigantine, New Jersey, with winds of 80 mph (130 km/h)")

    This is one of those urban myths like the Idea that Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. It MISSED and went in somewhere East of New Orleans. They were flooded from the NORTH by water from a lake north of the city that was held back by insufficient and poorly designed and maintained levees that were protecting places that were deathtrap holes 12 or more feet below sea level.

    What happens is that we tend to want to upgrade a storm's power and destructiveness to account for the damage that was mostly a result of human stupidity and lack of proper preparations. Where I come from we used to go fishing when a Cat 1 was coming in and then run just ahead of it to get out of low land. A cat 1 or tropical storm was mostly a fun reason to not go to school when I was a kid. I was raised in a place that seemed to get hit every few years. We tend to remember things as they relate to which hurricane was near it. My Daughter was born when Hurricane Allen was coming in on us. I had gone fishing and crabbing the day before.

    Hurricane Sandy was bad because people had built on sandbars. The weather service refused to issue Hurricane warnings because it was too late in the season so it COULDN'T be a hurricane. SO STUPID!!!!! Anytime a place goes decades between getting hit it is going to be ugly. The people there have no idea what is coming and don't understand that it is serious. The trees have grown tall and old and are just waiting for the next storm to fall over. Mostly, people just get stupid. If it has not happened in 10 years then it can't happen and the stuff that you hear is probably just stories and not true...So they sit there and get drowned...
     
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    Dorian is now a Cat4!!! It could make cat 5 before it goes in. When a cat 4 or 5 is coming at you, YOU RUN!! a cat 5 hurricane is actually the same as an F-3 tornado as far as wind speed. The thing is that it just keeps on coming where a tornado slams in and then moves on. It is like comparing an unusually high tide to a tsunami!! Only a suicidal fool would sit on his porch and let a tornado come to him. A hurricane with that wind speed is a LOT worse.
     
  20. Dalewick

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    My oldest daughter left Jacksonville this AM. She lives in a mandatory evacuation zone. By the radar, I'm glad she is coming home.

    Dale
     
  21. TexDanm

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    Great choice! Property can be replaced. Leave it and then worry about it from a distance. this isn't the kind of storm that you want to mess with.
     
  22. GrizzlyetteAdams

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    What's more, hurricane-force winds can last in the area for hours, not minutes as with a tornado.

    How long depends upon how wide it is, and how fast it is traveling. Most hurricanes usually crawl over land at around ten miles an hour or less. Sometimes the suckers stall.

    At the moment, hurricane-force winds are extending up to 30 miles (45 km) from the center of Dorian, and tropical storm-force winds up to 105 miles (165 km) from the center. Of course, it may grow...or not. Too far out at sea to tell what size or strength it will be at the moment of impact on land.


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  23. TexDanm

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    I have seen cars that had their paints totally pealed off and the metal pitted like a golf ball all over by a cat 3. A local TV station decided to go to Galveston to ride it out. The car was parked in front of the hotel on the sea wall. in the parking lot. It came home on a trailer.
     
  24. Dalewick

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    I've weathered 2 hurricanes (1 in Hawaii and 1 in North Carolina). Not something I want either of my kids to be able to say. The one in Hawaii, I was in the Army and we did guard duty. Had a concrete wall to stand behind and wore flak vest to guard the warehouse area. It was interesting huddling against that wall and watching the buildings blow apart. We had a hurricane party at the barracks. We would throw the empty bottles from the lanai and as soon as they hit the wind stream, they vanished. Young and dumb.

    Dale
     
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  25. Pragmatist

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    Hurricane winds are like standing on an empty Interstate highway and a half mile away a Boeing 747 fires up the 4 jet engines.

    Think of sand paper rubbed on face.

    A face shield on hard hat helps some. A scarf covering the face helps. Why work gloves at all times ? Think of sand paper rubbed on hands.

    Now for the bad news, ... after the winds, the flood waters are disease infected. Think of the last time you were so sick you were in bed for too long. Prevent a repeat event.
     
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    Heck, I ride out cat twos in my van with little concern. I do look for a wind break to hide the van behind for cat 2; for cat 1 I don't even bother. I do stay away from trees and light/telephone poles when I park though.
     
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    And those NEW JERSEY folks thought they were catching hell when cat 1 SANDY visited them . This could get interesting .
     
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    If you've ever been to the Liberal Gun Club Forum (here), you'll notice that they have their fair share of bigots as well. Change "libtards" and "communists" with "rednecks" and "fascists" and there you are!
     
  30. Old Geezer

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    The time has already arrived.

    We moved out of a small city to live in a small town due to pricing (money is money) and to get away from the nasty leftists. We are sooooo glad we did. Bad enough to have to interact with those hideous, Godless, arrogant dead souls at work, but to live around them is just too much. For being "intelligent", they are utterly stupid. And they have zero work ethic; writing a paper concerning nothingness = work for them. They are rude and if they do speak, every sentence is contrived, shallow, and in most instances is an adolescent bragging with little concealment thereof.

    Am I bigoted against arrogance and stupidity? Yes, very much so.
     
  31. Old Geezer

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    Now the hurricane is turning away from the cities and heading towards the homes of people who are ignored by the press, i.e. good and honest people. The people who will get hurt will be those who will take it upon themselves to rebuild -- they have the ability to rebuild. A FAR lower percentage of them will whine for Big Brother to put everything right.

    The media "cares about" (I have some vomit in my mouth), reports on, sheeple and the "oppressed". To the press, Donald Trump personally created this hurricane and every hurricane in the future.

    If only the Washington D.C. and New York press could take it in the teeth. It would be so wonderful for the reporters and news executives to be caught up in an ocean of looters. Several need to learn first hand what Reginald Denny survived. These people who call real Americans "deplorable", I want them to experience life in the raw.
     
  32. TexDanm

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    A Cat 5 hurricane has a power that is almost inconceivable. It can literally peel a road up off the ground and blow it away. NO standard home can survive that. All that would be left is the slab if it was on a slab. Right now Dorian is the second strongest storm on record. Allan in 1980 hit 190 MPH sustained winds. A cat 4 can have gusts over 225 mph. that sort of breeze can blow tractor-trailer rigs away like a feather in the wind.
     
  33. GrizzlyetteAdams

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    I just hope that the high that is keeping it out of the Gulf of Mexico holds up, and that Dorian goes EAST to be a monster fishstorm.

    If that thing gets in the superhot waters of the Gulf, it will definitely turn into THE most powerful storm ever recorded. Remember Katrina was a puny Cat ONE when she crossed into the hot waters of the Gulf from Florida, then instantly turned stupid.

    Hot water is great for boiling crabs, shrimp, crawfish, and hurricanes


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  34. poltiregist

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    I just moved a power line worker to a rallying location . The crew will be traveling to Mississippi today , picking up equipment and heading to Florida .
     
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  35. Old Geezer

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    I'm wondering about the degree of looting we will see after the hurricane has done its devastation.

    Looting is currently going on country-wide in South Africa and the social "experts" are not exactly sure of why the looting attacks began in the first place. The shops looted mainly belong to outsiders, so xenophobia is being blamed, first-up.





    https://kdwn.com/2019/09/02/looting-violence-spread-in-south-africas-major-cities/

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    Lets see, the citizens of Johannesburg are allowed to own AR15's right? NO, So we basically have unarmed store owners being attacked by mobs of people. I wonder how that would play out if they were armed like the Korean store owners in one of our pitiful riots?
     
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  37. Old Geezer

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    One imagines much more differently.

    If you look at what happened to Reginald Denny and others (on whom the MSM would not, will not ever, report), the need to be carrying of a personal weapon in your vehicle with you becomes obvious.

    Post SHTF, the rioting and looting will be of a scale hundreds of time larger than "pitiful".

    The more weak people who are available, the greater the violence. Criminal aggression is caused by the ready-availability of victims.
     
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  38. F22 Simpilot

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    Looks like perhaps the hurricane will just scrape the East coast of Florida and downgrade to a 1 as it goes up North. At this point I'm thinking the Bahamas will be the worst hit. But ya never know. The wind beast could go more inland West and cause some major damage.

    I saw on the news the Cajun Navy getting ready.
     
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    My bros are always ready. Helping others is in their blood, and is their lifestyle 24/7. It's one of the many things that makes me so homesick.


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    It's all over here. A little wind, a bit of rain. I slept like 13 hours, it was glorious.
     
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